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Re: The January 1 1989 Watchtower Cover Up by Janosky: 1:37pm On Feb 22
rottennaija:


On a second thought, I had to go through your post again. MaxInDHouse, you are a big liar just like your governing body.

In any of my post, have you seen the title being something of the nature "I want to present a better group that outperforms Jw" or any of its variations? So how could you be rushing to my post to look for that when I do pretend to offer it?

Besides, you should know and always remember. My post is solely to exposed the false beliefs and practices of JWs. Expose its dark side, mind control techniques etc. The very things normal JWs are not exposed to.

So keep this in mind when you rush to see the next post.

Upon all your proven somersaults on Nairaland.
Until now I didn't realize you have a short memory
grin grin cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy grin
Re: The January 1 1989 Watchtower Cover Up by MaxInDHouse(m): 1:49pm On Feb 22
So you're saying you don't have what interests me, then our case is settled!

cc MightySparrow wink


rottennaija:


On a second thought, I had to go through your post again. MaxInDHouse, you are a big liar just like your governing body.

In any of my post, have you seen the title being something of the nature "I want to present a better group that outperforms Jw" or any of its variations? So how could you be rushing to my post to look for that when I do pretend to offer it?

Besides, you should know and always remember. My post is solely to exposed the false beliefs and practices of JWs. Expose its dark side, mind control techniques etc. The very things normal JWs are not exposed to.

So keep this in mind when you rush to see the next post.
Re: The January 1 1989 Watchtower Cover Up by rottennaija(m): 2:16pm On Feb 22
MaxInDHouse:
So you're saying you don't have what interests me, then our case is settled!

cc MightySparrow wink


You are very funny.
Re: The January 1 1989 Watchtower Cover Up by rottennaija(m): 2:17pm On Feb 22
Janosky:


Upon all your proven somersaults on Nairaland.
Until now I didn't realize you have a short memory
grin grin cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy grin

Please what is proven sumersault? Is it the name of a person? Animal or thing?
Re: The January 1 1989 Watchtower Cover Up by Janosky: 3:05pm On Feb 22
rottennaija:


You see Maximus69, when I started posting about JWs, there had been series of methods to try to get me to shut up and stopped posting. Initially where accusations of being an bitter apostate (I was still an active member then but PIMO), then they were those who would just smear "this one just want to sin", there were those who say he has been disfellowshiped (something that has not happened till now nor any judicial committee), then straight forward attack (you can remember your psychological words of attacks etc).

I understood all these were attempts to stop me from posting. They had just wished I had kept they secret hidden, shut up and stay shut. Unfortunately, those didn't work and don't think your now subdued "show me a better performing group" or any of it's forms will works. So you might as well rest but you shouldn't, for I'm entertained by it.

They was a time you ranted "that my thread are dying, that they don't have views". But each time I post, you appear to be one of the first 20 people who rush to the thread; when you take a look at the earlier post I made, you see hundreds of views.

Then there is the ban by nairaland bot targeted at me. I get to understand that using certain keywords will stopped my post. So I adapt.

So you might as well stopped being a broken record repeating the same tune. (You can say it in another way you know ) But you are not going to succeed in stopping my post.

You know what I see each day on YouTube, twitter and Facebook? More and more young people waking to the reality about the JWs religion is fake. I don't really expect that from older JWs especially considering how many years they had given their lives to it. (I understand the emotional trauma it would cause them if they get to realise it has been a big waste of years and an illusion. Given the choice, many would continue in the illusion as long as it gives them some semblance of hope that admit it were all fake) I spend hours watching YouTube testimonials and experiences, some of which are too lengthy to post here. The other day, I was contacted by a Jw elders on Facebook about his discoveries but was afraid to come out openly.

You know when I looked back to 1980s, when 3 or 4 people started realising what the organisation is, a time you basically had 10s or a few 100s of people who knew what the organisation is hiding to protect their fake reputation, a time when the movement to exposed the organisation for what it was started, you can only find a handful of people. Fast forward 20 years ahead, the few 100s had turned into a few 100s of 1000s. In 20 years time, the few 100s of 1000s will be into a few millions.

That's what a movement is. It starts very slow, then slow, then increases slowly until it becomes a big movement. That's what you should understand Maximus69. You cannot stop it.

Speaking of a better performing group than JWs... Maximus69, you should hear it from me.
If the JW organisation was performing well, they wouldn't be paying millions in compensation and asking victims to shutup, they wouldn't be selling hundreds of KH, they wouldn't be employing all cult tactics to keep members, they wouldn't be using fear, obligations and guilt as their preferred method. Of all the religion I know, the JW is one group performing so poorly that they are so unsure of themselves.

So where are they performing so well?

Mr LIENUS, mutually agreed compensation is a legally valid means of dispute resolution, your claim is spurious.
In a civil suit, it is the claim of the plaintiff against the claim of the defendant.

JWs bought land in Wallkill ,by far more expansive & bigger than our former Brooklyn NY Office.
Bros,you no like progress !

JWs sold some Kingdom Halls, so what?

Is it a crime to sell property & earn income from it ?
If JWs use your money buy those properties & you dey rant upandan,e for make sense but your penny no dey inside.
(Modern day Judas Iscariot crying over the sale of "expensive oil" grin cheesy )

Who overwhelmed Peter with guilt ?
Who told Judas Iscariot to be overwhelmed with guilt?
Mr LIENUS, say na JWs grin grin grin grin

Drawing close to Jehovah breeds clear conscience.
Likewise, leaving Jehovah's worship breeds guilty conscience, Hebrews 10:22.
Jesus died for you to draw close to Jehovah and have a clean conscience" before the true God.
Hebrew 9:14.

2 Timothy 1:7, Jehovah's Servants are not in bondage. JWs no dey fear !

A clear conscience fears no accusation of guilt.
grin grin grin grin
Re: The January 1 1989 Watchtower Cover Up by rottennaija(m): 3:08pm On Feb 22
Janosky:


Mr LIENUS, mutually agreed compensation is a legally valid means of dispute resolution, your claim is spurious.
In a civil suit, it is the claim of the plaintiff against the claim of the defendant.

JWs bought land in Wallkill ,by far more expansive & bigger than our former Brooklyn NY Office, you no like your fellow man progress.

JWs sold some Kingdom Halls, so what?

Is it a crime to sell property & earn income from it ?
If JWs use your money buy those properties & you dey rant upandan,e for make sense but your penny no dey inside.
(Modern day Judas Iscariot crying over the sale of "expensive oil" grin cheesy )

Who overwhelmed Peter with guilt ?
Who told Judas Iscariot to be overwhelmed with guilt?
Mr LIENUS, say na JWs grin grin grin grin

Drawing close to Jehovah breeds clear conscience.
Likewise, leaving Jehovah's worship breeds guilty conscience, Hebrews 10:22.
Jesus died for you to draw close to Jehovah and have a clean conscience" before the true God.
Hebrew 9:14.

2 Timothy 1:7, Jehovah's Servants are not in bondage. JWs no dey fear !

A clear conscience fears no accusation of guilt.
grin grin grin grin

So you now see the difference between the pastorprenuer and governing bodyprenuer?
Re: The January 1 1989 Watchtower Cover Up by rottennaija(m): 3:11pm On Feb 22
Janosky:


Mr LIENUS, mutually agreed compensation is a legally valid means of dispute resolution, your claim is spurious.
In a civil suit, it is the claim of the plaintiff against the claim of the defendant.

JWs bought land in Wallkill ,by far more expansive & bigger than our former Brooklyn NY Office.
Bros,you no like progress !

JWs sold some Kingdom Halls, so what?

Is it a crime to sell property & earn income from it ?
If JWs use your money buy those properties & you dey rant upandan,e for make sense but your penny no dey inside.
(Modern day Judas Iscariot crying over the sale of "expensive oil" grin cheesy )

Who overwhelmed Peter with guilt ?
Who told Judas Iscariot to be overwhelmed with guilt?
Mr LIENUS, say na JWs grin grin grin grin

Drawing close to Jehovah breeds clear conscience.
Likewise, leaving Jehovah's worship breeds guilty conscience, Hebrews 10:22.
Jesus died for you to draw close to Jehovah and have a clean conscience" before the true God.
Hebrew 9:14.

2 Timothy 1:7, Jehovah's Servants are not in bondage. JWs no dey fear !

A clear conscience fears no accusation of guilt.
grin grin grin grin

In the last district convention you attended, did you see how in that Jeremiah drama, the leading ones, the priest were giving up temple properties for rent in return of financial benefit?

Did Jehovah give them permission to start selling dedicated halls? I thought the halls were said to be dedicated to Jehovah?
Re: The January 1 1989 Watchtower Cover Up by Janosky: 3:15pm On Feb 22
rottennaija:


You see Maximus69, when I started posting about JWs, there had been series of methods to try to get me to shut up and stopped posting. Initially where accusations of being an bitter apostate (I was still an active member then but PIMO), then they were those who would just smear "this one just want to sin", there were those who say he has been disfellowshiped (something that has not happened till now nor any judicial committee), then straight forward attack (you can remember your psychological words of attacks etc).

I understood all these were attempts to stop me from posting. They had just wished I had kept they secret hidden, shut up and stay shut. Unfortunately, those didn't work and don't think your now subdued "show me a better performing group" or any of it's forms will works. So you might as well rest but you shouldn't, for I'm entertained by it.

They was a time you ranted "that my thread are dying, that they don't have views". But each time I post, you appear to be one of the first 20 people who rush to the thread; when you take a look at the earlier post I made, you see hundreds of views.

Then there is the ban by nairaland bot targeted at me. I get to understand that using certain keywords will stopped my post. So I adapt.

So you might as well stopped being a broken record repeating the same tune. (You can say it in another way you know ) But you are not going to succeed in stopping my post.

You know what I see each day on YouTube, twitter and Facebook? More and more young people waking to the reality about the JWs religion is fake. I don't really expect that from older JWs especially considering how many years they had given their lives to it. (I understand the emotional trauma it would cause them if they get to realise it has been a big waste of years and an illusion. Given the choice, many would continue in the illusion as long as it gives them some semblance of hope that admit it were all fake) I spend hours watching YouTube testimonials and experiences, some of which are too lengthy to post here. The other day, I was contacted by a Jw elders on Facebook about his discoveries but was afraid to come out openly.

You know when I looked back to 1980s, when 3 or 4 people started realising what the organisation is, a time you basically had 10s or a few 100s of people who knew what the organisation is hiding to protect their fake reputation, a time when the movement to exposed the organisation for what it was started, you can only find a handful of people. Fast forward 20 years ahead, the few 100s had turned into a few 100s of 1000s. In 20 years time, the few 100s of 1000s will be into a few millions.

That's what a movement is. It starts very slow, then slow, then increases slowly until it becomes a big movement. That's what you should understand Maximus69. You cannot stop it.

Speaking of a better performing group than JWs... Maximus69, you should hear it from me.
If the JW organisation was performing well, they wouldn't be paying millions in compensation and asking victims to shutup, they wouldn't be selling hundreds of KH, they wouldn't be employing all cult tactics to keep members, they wouldn't be using fear, obligations and guilt as their preferred method. Of all the religion I know, the JW is one group performing so poorly that they are so unsure of themselves.

So where are they performing so well?

Mr LIENUS, mutually agreed compensation is a legally valid means of dispute resolution, your claim is spurious.
In a civil suit, it is the claim of the plaintiff against the claim of the defendant.

JWs bought land in Wallkill ,by far more expansive & bigger than our former Brooklyn NY Office, you no like your fellow man progress.

JWs sold some Kingdom Halls, so what?

Is it a crime to sell property & earn income from it ?
If JWs use your money buy those properties & you dey rant upandan,e for make sense but your penny no dey inside.
(Modern day Judas Iscariot crying over the sale of "expensive oil" grin cheesy )

Who overwhelmed Peter with guilt ?
Who told Judas Iscariot to be overwhelmed with guilt?
Mr LIENUS, say na JWs grin grin grin grin

Drawing close to Jehovah breeds clear conscience.
Likewise, leaving Jehovah's worship breeds guilty conscience, Hebrews 10:22.
Jesus died for you to draw close to Jehovah and have a clean conscience" before the true God.
Hebrew 9:14.

2 Timothy 1:7, Jehovah's Servants are not in bondage. JWs no dey fear !

A clear conscience fears no accusation of guilt.
grin grin grin grin
Re: The January 1 1989 Watchtower Cover Up by Janosky: 3:18pm On Feb 22
rottennaija:


So you now see the difference between the pastorprenuer and governing body prenuer?

An official website with very many publications in over 200 languages no be moin moin.
Re: The January 1 1989 Watchtower Cover Up by rottennaija(m): 3:19pm On Feb 22
Janosky:


Mr LIENUS, mutually agreed compensation is a legally valid means of dispute resolution, your claim is spurious.
In a civil suit, it is the claim of the plaintiff against the claim of the defendant.

JWs bought land in Wallkill ,by far more expansive & bigger than our former Brooklyn NY Office, you no like your fellow man progress.

JWs sold some Kingdom Halls, so what?

Is it a crime to sell property & earn income from it ?
If JWs use your money buy those properties & you dey rant upandan,e for make sense but your penny no dey inside.
(Modern day Judas Iscariot crying over the sale of "expensive oil" grin cheesy )

Who overwhelmed Peter with guilt ?
Who told Judas Iscariot to be overwhelmed with guilt?
Mr LIENUS, say na JWs grin grin grin grin

Drawing close to Jehovah breeds clear conscience.
Likewise, leaving Jehovah's worship breeds guilty conscience, Hebrews 10:22.
Jesus died for you to draw close to Jehovah and have a clean conscience" before the true God.
Hebrew 9:14.

2 Timothy 1:7, Jehovah's Servants are not in bondage. JWs no dey fear !

A clear conscience fears no accusation of guilt.
grin grin grin grin

Well, it should help sooth your trouble mind. I ended my affiliations with the multi billion dollar corporation of Jehovah's Witnesses called Watchtower.
Re: The January 1 1989 Watchtower Cover Up by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:22pm On Feb 22
What you are saying is it's not compulsory you belong to a well established religious group, you can also mingle with mushroom churches all is the same God, no difference!
I've heard you but i'm of the opinion of ONE Lord, ONE Faith, ONE Bapstim! Ephesian 4:5
So differences in faith is tantamount to various spirits (Gods and Lords) 1Corinthians 8:5 smiley


rottennaija:

You are very funny.
Re: The January 1 1989 Watchtower Cover Up by rottennaija(m): 3:22pm On Feb 22
Janosky:


An official website with very many publications in over 200 languages no be moin moin.


As a cover for big business in the name of religion. Have you not seen it before?
Re: The January 1 1989 Watchtower Cover Up by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:38pm On Feb 22
Hebrew 6:11
Just that nobody owns private jets nor skyscrapers with the BIG BUSINESS! wink

rottennaija:

As a cover for big business in the name of religion. Have you not seen it before?
Re: The January 1 1989 Watchtower Cover Up by Janosky: 3:43pm On Feb 22
rottennaija:


In the last district convention you attended, did you see how in that Jeremiah drama, the leading ones, the priest were giving up temple properties for rent in return of financial benefit?

Did Jehovah give them permission to start selling dedicated halls? I thought the halls were said to be dedicated to Jehovah?

You still no wan get SENSE grin

A man who stops worshipping Jehovah, is he still dedicated?
Those k/Halls were no longer used for Jehovah's worship.

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Re: The January 1 1989 Watchtower Cover Up by rottennaija(m): 3:52pm On Feb 22
MaxInDHouse:
Hebrew 6:11
Just that nobody owns private jets nor skyscrapers with the BIG BUSINESS! wink


Even if they own, you will still clap for it and look for silly excuses for it. It has. It always been this way, when they were not selling their dedicated places of worship, they were busy writing articles about how church buildings are sold. When they were not in court settling CSA cases and the Catholics were having it hard on them then, they were busy condemning Catholics for their CSA problems. There was a time there were busy condemning Catholics for changing their believes.

Besides, who knows if they don't have a private jet? Who knows when WT is not a transparent religious organisations? Was it gb member who was having camara follow him in an airport? Or didn't you see?

https://www.nairaland.com/6314841/jehovahs-witnesses-leadership-exploiting-tragedy





For this picture to have happened and be shown in a video, WT has to arrange for someone to be there and shoot these videos. Did I see any sort of condemning from you or Janosky or other JWs who saw it?

My point is, even if it happens, you will still pretend you didn't see it. Or are you not aware WT owns shares in a tobacco company for more than 20 years now? Or that they joint he UN and lied about it? Or that they own stocks in company that produces weapons?
Re: The January 1 1989 Watchtower Cover Up by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:53pm On Feb 22
He taught we're still living in Jerusalem! cheesy
Forgetting that it's the worshipers that dignifies the halls not the empty buildings! John 4:22-24 smiley

Janosky:

You still no wan get SENSE grin
A man who stops worshipping Jehovah, is he still dedicated?
Those k/Halls were no longer used for Jehovah's worship.
Re: The January 1 1989 Watchtower Cover Up by rottennaija(m): 3:57pm On Feb 22
Janosky:


You still no wan get SENSE grin

A man who stops worshipping Jehovah, is he still dedicated?
Those k/Halls were no longer used for Jehovah's worship.

Kingdom Halls like this?













More than 1000 Kingdom halls were no longer used? Keep deceiving yourself. When you see a smart business model, you no no.

I pray you take your advice just ones. Try and get sense IN Jesus name.

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Re: The January 1 1989 Watchtower Cover Up by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:59pm On Feb 22
So because he's a member of the Governing Body of JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES he mustn't use the ATM machine shey? cheesy

You're just beating about the bush my guy, find something tangible to say.

Worldly religious leaders who buys private jets and skyscrapers don't move about without body guards and they don't visit the ATM machines because their assets is much more than that so they can't be seen using common ATM machine! cheesy


rottennaija:


Even if they own, you will still clap for it and look for silly excuses for it. It has. It always been this way, when they were not selling their dedicated places of worship, they were busy writing articles about how church buildings are sold. When they were not in court settling CSA cases and the Catholics were having it hard on them then, they were busy condemning Catholics for their CSA problems. There was a time there were busy condemning Catholics for changing their believes.

Besides, who knows if they don't have a private jet? Who knows when WT is not a transparent religious organisations? Was it gb member who was having camara follow him in an airport? Or didn't you see?

https://www.nairaland.com/6314841/jehovahs-witnesses-leadership-exploiting-tragedy





For this picture to have happened and be shown in a video, WT has to arrange for someone to be there and shoot these videos. Did I see any sort of condemning from you or Janosky or other JWs who saw it?

My point is, even if it happens, you will still pretend you didn't see it. Or are you not aware WT owns shares in a tobacco company for more than 20 years now? Or that they joint he UN and lied about it? Or that they own stocks in company that produces weapons?
Re: The January 1 1989 Watchtower Cover Up by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:03pm On Feb 22
The assets belongs to Watchtower so the management is best handled by Watchtower! cheesy

rottennaija:

Kingdom Halls like this?
More than 1000 Kingdom halls were no longer used? Keep deceiving yourself. When you see a smart business model, you no no.
I pray you take your advice just ones. Try and get sense IN Jesus name.
Re: The January 1 1989 Watchtower Cover Up by rottennaija(m): 4:23pm On Feb 22
MaxInDHouse:
He taught we're still living in Jerusalem! cheesy
Forgetting that it's the worshipers that dignifies the halls not the empty buildings! John 4:22-24 smiley



grin grin

You means this dedicated halls that were evidence of Jehovah's Blessing? After all it was your gb kind that rented space in the temples in Jerusalem.
Re: The January 1 1989 Watchtower Cover Up by rottennaija(m): 4:24pm On Feb 22
MaxInDHouse:
The assets belongs to Watchtower so the management is best handled by Watchtower! cheesy


Exactly my point. They never belong to Jehovah. It has always been WT masquerading as a religious entity when infact, it was a big real estate biz.

Talks of pastorprenuer.
Re: The January 1 1989 Watchtower Cover Up by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:25pm On Feb 22
Whatever my guy WHATEVER! cheesy

rottennaija:

You means this dedicated halls that were evidence of Jehovah's Blessing? After all it was your gb kind that rented space in the temples in Jerusalem.
Re: The January 1 1989 Watchtower Cover Up by rottennaija(m): 4:25pm On Feb 22
MaxInDHouse:
So because he's a member of the Governing Body of JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES he mustn't use the ATM machine shey? cheesy

You're just beating about the bush my guy, find something tangible to say.

Worldly religious leaders who buys private jets and skyscrapers don't move about without body guards and they don't visit the ATM machines because their assets is much more than that so they can't be seen using common ATM machine! cheesy



Just go along with a camara. Then shoot it in a video and show the JWs how you assist your kind in times of disaster.
Re: The January 1 1989 Watchtower Cover Up by rottennaija(m): 4:26pm On Feb 22
MaxInDHouse:
Whatever my guy WHATEVER! cheesy



grin
Of course. Soon you will see private jet and it will still be whatever happens to Kingdom Hall.
Re: The January 1 1989 Watchtower Cover Up by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:27pm On Feb 22
I thought Jesus said he will hand over all his earthly belonging to the faithful and discreet slave! Matthew 24:45-47 wink

rottennaija:

Exactly my point. They never belong to Jehovah. It has always been WT masquerading as a religious entity when infact, it was a big real estate biz.
Talks of pastorprenuer.
Re: The January 1 1989 Watchtower Cover Up by rottennaija(m): 4:29pm On Feb 22
MaxInDHouse:
I thought Jesus said he will hand over all his earthly belonging to the faithful and discreet slave! Matthew 24:45-47 wink



And that includes big real estate biz?
Re: The January 1 1989 Watchtower Cover Up by rottennaija(m): 4:30pm On Feb 22
MaxInDHouse:
So because he's a member of the Governing Body of JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES he mustn't use the ATM machine shey? cheesy

You're just beating about the bush my guy, find something tangible to say.

Worldly religious leaders who buys private jets and skyscrapers don't move about without body guards and they don't visit the ATM machines because their assets is much more than that so they can't be seen using common ATM machine! cheesy



It's will only be tangible when you see private Jet? Or it will part of the earthly interest Jesus hands over to the gb?
Re: The January 1 1989 Watchtower Cover Up by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:30pm On Feb 22
Until then 9,000,000 (ever increasing) people from different races on this planet have vowed to remain solidly behind them Sir! cheesy

rottennaija:

Of course. Soon you will see private jet and it will still be whatever

Re: The January 1 1989 Watchtower Cover Up by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:32pm On Feb 22
"All (my) belongings"~ Jesus of Nazareth

Matthew 24:45-47 cheesy

rottennaija:

And that includes big real estate biz?
Re: The January 1 1989 Watchtower Cover Up by rottennaija(m): 4:32pm On Feb 22
MaxInDHouse:
Until then 9,000,000 (ever increasing) people from different races on this planet have vowed to remain solidly behind them Sir! cheesy


The only difference is clear. When you see the leaders, well fed and well taken care of. When you see the followers? Well you know, we'll malnourished. Of course, the feeding is spiritual.
Re: The January 1 1989 Watchtower Cover Up by rottennaija(m): 4:33pm On Feb 22
MaxInDHouse:
"]All (my) belongings"~ Jesus of Nazareth

Matthew 24:45-47 cheesy


Which would include sky scrapper? Private Jets?
Re: The January 1 1989 Watchtower Cover Up by rottennaija(m): 4:40pm On Feb 22
MaxInDHouse:
"All (my) belongings"~ Jesus of Nazareth

Matthew 24:45-47 cheesy


Just out of curiosity, will it include the eye of horus assembly Hall in Denmark?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ycDI4qQHoo

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