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slowice:


This one dey compare a lion to 2 goats lmao... Even if you merge their endorsements sef e nor still reach Erica's in numbers or quality

You must be a learner
Ozo’s Juventus deal alone swallows all the endorsements by all the housemates put together

slowice:


Nope, not sarcasm, she really humble but your likes re too judgemental to see this beautiful quality in her... Open ur eyes

So it was humility she was potraying when she was throwing slurs in the bb house

wirinet:


I support her even though the assertion that "27 years old is a married woman in Europe" is not entirely correct. In feminist leaning Europe ladies enter their 30s or even 40s pursuing a career rather than a family.

Having said that, I support that ladies should be encouraged to marry and have their children early. It makes family planning easier. When I say family planing, I mean not just about having children, but also planing for the children's education and wife's career.

It should be considered that women are physiologically, psychologically and spiritually different from men. Women's biological clocks run faster than that of men. A woman getting married in her 30s has less than 20 years of child bearing left. Furthermore, a woman bearing children late 30s and 40s present extra risks both to mother and child.
I advice us to encourage our daughters to reduce slaying in their younger years and get married and start a family, so that by 35 they are through with child bearing and can still pursue a career.

So you are only looking at it from the biological angle and not the financial. Okay lets deal with the biological first.

How many children should the average woman have? 2, 3, 4, 5, 6?? In these hard times, it is sensible not to give birth to more than three kids. So you telling me a woman who starts giving birth in her 30s can’t have kids without issues before she reaches menopause? Really?

Secondly, are you saying women should get married and have kids irrespective of their financial ability to take of the kids because all they need to consider first is their age? There is a lot to having children than just age, you do know that.

I advice us to encourage our daughters to reduce slaying in their younger years and get married and start a family, so that by 35 they are through with child bearing and can still pursue a career.

I cannot take this advice of yours nor give it to others because having kids is more than just bearing them, you also have to raise them. Even if by 35 a lady has finished bearing kids, raising them would take another 10-15 years till they are old enough to find their own paths in life. So your argument of having kids makes family planning easier in terms of not just spacing of the kids but also their future and then having a career as well does not stand.

If you fail to plan, you plan to fail. If you have kids and you are not financially capable or ready to take care of them, you would end up forfeiting the remaining part of you active years to raising those kids which means you would have to shelve a lot of your dreams and aspirations in order to cater for those kids. I have seen it over and over again.

To sum up, my point is that one should only get married and have kids when they are financially capable and ready to commit to that 18+ years of nurturing and raising them and not because you are avoiding having them in your 30s. Marriage is nice and kids are lovely to have but if you don’t plan properly you might plunge yourself into perpetual poverty. This goes for both men and women.

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Queenlovely:
27 Years old and yet to be married.

See my children, I have to tell you this as an old woman, Take your future into your hands, the future is not bright in this country..

27 years old is a married woman in Europe. but in Nigeria you are just waiting for jamb result.

most of you want to get married at 30, yet you don't see how possible that is, considering your current income.

Travel out of this shithole

For those ode asking if marriage is an achievement, when suitors comes for your sisters, chase them away oh

ode

you are daft

slowice:

Your "lmao" ll not add a kobo to ur aza

punk

nengibo:

So it was humility she was potraying when she was throwing slurs in the bb house

We ve all had that low moments in our lives that we not too proud of.... It doesn't change who we re. We keep growing

Jackson105:


Shvt ur mouth. U must be an hellite.

A group of people with damaged brain

Saucy people condemning others and calling them saucy

caracas:

You must be a learner
Ozo’s Juventus deal alone swallows all the endorsements by all the housemates put together

So you re among those who believe he earns 2.4m dollars monthly lol

slowice:


We ve all had that low moments in our lives that we not too proud of.... It doesn't change who we re. We keep growing

So if you don't know her personally, what made you say she's humble

nengibo:

So if you don't know her personally, what made you say she's humble

Don't bother

slowice:


So you re among those who believe he earns 2.4m dollars monthly lol

He earns a whopping 23.5m naira excluding other attached benefits,monthly as The brand manager of juventus academy in Nigeria.
Even Erica couldn’t help but awww n congratulate him when he got this deal....
This is confirmed n authoritative .
This is not counting his other big deals like Budweiser, the biggest beer brand in the world, his tv n radio shows etc
Clearly Ozo is the biggest in the history of bbn

KenModi:


So you are only looking at it from the biological angle and not the financial. Okay lets deal with the biological first.

I am not looking at it from only the biological perspective, I mentioned physiologically, psychologically and otherwise.

How many children should the average woman have? 2, 3, 4, 5, 6?? In these hard times, it is sensible not to give birth to more than three kids. So you telling me a woman who starts giving birth in her 30s can’t have kids without issues before she reaches menopause? Really?

You sound sexist. It's should be how many children should a family have and not just women. The number of children a woman should have does not entirely depend on the woman but on her family, most especially her husband.

Now the number of children a family should have depends on the needs of the family, and believe me, it's does not depend mostly on family fortune. I have some billionaire friends who have only 2 children. Meanwhile there are some mechanics, petty traders and other low income earners who have 5 or more children.

Secondly, are you saying women should get married and have kids irrespective of their financial ability to take of the kids because all they need to consider first is their age? There is a lot to having children than just age, you do know that.

women had been getting married and having kids irrespective of financial ability since the time of Adam. In fact the fact that you have financial ability at the time of marriage does not guarantee financial ability throughout marriage. Most families have a period of financial instability. Even Bill Gates and Elon Musk got married before they achieved financial stability.
What is more important than immediate financial ability as you call it is financial vision, financial planning, hard work and of course luck.

When you marry a good, compatible and loving woman, instead of a slay mama, you can start from zero and end up a hero in a very short time.
The two could complement each other to achieve great things.

I advice us to encourage our daughters to reduce slaying in their younger years and get married and start a family, so that by 35 they are through with child bearing and can still pursue a career.

I cannot take this advice of yours nor give it to others because having kids is more than just bearing them, you also have to raise them. Even if by 35 a lady has finished bearing kids, raising them would take another 10-15 years till they are old enough to find their own paths in life. So your argument of having kids makes family planning easier in terms of not just spacing of the kids but also their future and then having a career as well does not stand.

From your comments it's obvious you don't have any kids. If you do, you would not belch out "it takes another 10 to 15 years to raise children before they are old enough find their own paths in life". Some children find their own path early and leave their parents before their 18th birthday, some are still dependent on their parents well into their 40s. The critical time for raising children is from birth until they start primary school. That is the time they need at least one of the parents the most. By the time they enter secondary school, they should be fairly independent (and I don't mean financially) to be able to take care if themselves. For the western world, children in universities are required to have some degree of financial autonomy by working part time. It's only in Nigeria that a university student would expect his or her parents to pay tuition fees, house rent, feeding money, cloth money, and everything else until he or she finishes master's or PhD.

If you fail to plan, you plan to fail. If you have kids and you are not financially capable or ready to take care of them, you would end up forfeiting the remaining part of you active years to raising those kids which means you would have to shelve a lot of your dreams and aspirations in order to cater for those kids. I have seen it over and over again.

To sum up, my point is that one should only get married and have kids when they are financially capable and ready to commit to that 18+ years of nurturing and raising them and not because you are avoiding having them in your 30s. Marriage is nice and kids are lovely to have but if you don’t plan properly you might plunge yourself into perpetual poverty. This goes for both men and women.

Even the Omotola Ekeinde we are talking about got married at about 18 years, birthed and raised 5 children, pursued a very successful career in acting and now at 42 her last born is 18 years. Would she have had such a successful life if she married at 35?

My wife was 24 when I married her and by 32, after 3 children, we are through with child bearing. After our last born entered nursery school, she started a new career in baking. I opened an eatery outlet for her last year and she is doing really quite well despite the pandemic.

wirinet:

I am not looking at it from only the biological perspective, I mentioned physiologically, psychologically and otherwise.


You sound sexist. It's should be how many children should a family have and not just women. The number of children a woman should have does not entirely depend on the woman but on her family, most especially her husband.

Now the number of children a family should have depends on the needs of the family, and believe me, it's does not depend mostly on family fortune. I have some billionaire friends who have only 2 children. Meanwhile there are some mechanics, petty traders and other low income earners who have 5 or more children.

women had been getting married and having kids irrespective of financial ability since the time of Adam. In fact the fact that you have financial ability at the time of marriage does not guarantee financial ability throughout marriage. Most families have a period of financial instability. Even Bill Gates and Elon Musk got married before they achieved financial stability.
What is more important than immediate financial ability as you call it is financial vision, financial planning, hard work and of course luck.

When you marry a good, compatible and loving woman, instead of a slay mama, you can start from zero and end up a hero in a very short time.
The two could complement each other to achieve great things.


From your comments it's obvious you don't have any kids. If you do, you would not belch out "it takes another 10 to 15 years to raise children before they are old enough find their own paths in life". Some children find their own path early and leave their parents before their 18th birthday, some are still dependent on their parents well into their 40s. The critical time for raising children is from birth until they start primary school. That is the time they need at least one of the parents the most. By the time they enter secondary school, they should be fairly independent (and I don't mean financially) to be able to take care if themselves. For the western world, children in universities are required to have some degree of financial autonomy by working part time. It's only in Nigeria that a university student would expect his or her parents to pay tuition fees, house rent, feeding money, cloth money, and everything else until he or she finishes master's or PhD.




Even the Omotola Ekeinde we are talking about got married at about 18 years, birthed and raised 5 children, pursued a very successful career in acting and now at 42 her last born is 18 years. Would she have had such a successful life if she married at 35?

My wife was 24 when I married her and by 32, after 3 children, we are through with child bearing. After our last born entered nursery school, she started a new career in baking. I opened an eatery outlet for her last year and she is doing really quite well despite the pandemic.

You make it sound as if the moment you stop having children and the last one gets into nursery or primary school, then its hands off from their welfare. You still have to provide financially for them till they can hustle and cater for themselves. Is that money going to fall from the sky or you would keep hoping for miracles to take care of them?

You mentioned Omotola, she had a man who is a Captain and a pilot, which obviously is a good paying job. That is why she was able to have five kids and still pursue an acting career and be successful. She should have tried that with a carpenter or mechanic who earns very little from his job. She definitely won’t be the person we speak of today.

Having kids is different from raising them. Anyone can fvcking give birth to children, it doesn’t take too much effort, so long both partners are fertile. But it is in raising them that I speak about, that is the true test of your financial strength. That is the crux of the matter here.

I am saying you cannot go have a child when you are unemployed, that is an eternal poverty sentence. Also, it would be unwise to have kids more than your income can sustain. You can’t be earning 50k monthly and go have five kids, and be saying to yourself that kids are a blessing in themselves and be hoping for miracles that God would take care of them; you would die in perpetual poverty.

My point is cut your cloth as it fits you. It would be unwise to have kids when your financial means is barely even enough to take care of yourself. Wait, double your hustle and when you have enough investments and savings, then you can settle with a partner and have kids. It is not enough to be of age to start bearing children, there are other factors involved especially financial.

And yes, I don’t have kids because I don’t want to bring them into this world to suffer or to have one my kids wait for his/her older sibling to finish university before he/she can apply for admission.

There are a thousand and one reasons why the level of poverty in Nigeria in particular and Africa in general is high. One of the major ones is poverty stricken couples and average income earners bringing in kids to this world when they do not clearly have the means to cater for them. Most have to give up a lot personally and focus all they have got to raising those kids, this means shelving their personal ambitions, dreams and aspirations aside.

I have a friend who had to give up studying and start doing food deliveries because he went back to Nigeria, got married and soon after they had a kid. Dude couldn’t cater for wife and kid despite the scholarship he was getting from the government as well as his side hustle doing deliveries. So he had to quit school and focus on the delivery business full-time. He told me point blank, he couldn’t continue making excuses when his wife would call him asking for money for upkeep for her and their kid.

I just shook my head and took the lessons I could from his situation. This is just an example of what I meant when I said you would end up sacrificing your dreams and aspirations in order to raise a family.

I am sure he had imagined himself as an engineer because he was studying software engineering. But now all that has gone the drain because he rushed into what he could not handle. Because before you know it, another visit to Nigeria, second baby would come. Then he would start trying to bring his wife and kids abroad. But his own personal dreams have been sacrificed for his wife and kids. Please don’t tell me that is the true definition of love. Lets not go there.

Even after giving birth, it doesn’t end there. You stop bearing children doesn’t mean it ends there. You have mouths to feed and bills to pay for a family. In this day and age, having a job is not enough, one needs multiple streams of income in order to meet today’s financial demand and more so if you are raising a family.

Achieving one’s objectives in life as an individual should be paramount first before getting married and raising a family. This is one way to avoid mid-life crisis and divorce issues. One would also avoid having to start seeing his/her kids as investments and hoping they take care of you when you are old as repayment for setting aside your dreams and goals in order to raise them.

I would leave this matter here. Peace!