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Why Ife Is Not Yoruba Land, It Belongs To The Igbos - Ooni And Prof Ade Obayemi by EzeNri(m): 11:53am On Mar 30, 2021
The Ooni of Ife, Adeyeye Enitan Ogunwusi recently opened a longstanding debate about the relationship between the Igbo and the Yoruba, and did affirm that the Igbo were ancient inhabitants of Ife.

The Ooni’s asserts that the ancient Igbo connections to Ife is still evident in the traditions preserved in the oral narratives of Ife itself, and in the extant lineages of the Igbo still present in their habitations inside the Ooni’s palace. The Igbo quarters are still present in Ife. What the Ooni brings to this debate is legitimacy, because Yoruba tradition confers the authority of national memory on the office of the Ooni.

The Ooni in a sense validates the accounts of the eminent Nigerian historian and anthropologist, the late Professor Ade Obayemi.

Obayemi accounts for a first pavement of culture in what is now known as the cradle of Yoruba origin, but which was once originally settled by the Igbo led by Obatala.

The Igbo were the original inhabitants of Ife and had installed, and practiced a culture based on their ancient Odinala religion of peace, of the divine rights of the individual and not of kings, of the protection and validation of the weak and infirm, of an artistic and creative value rather than of war and destruction. All these values are embodied in the myth of Obatala the sculptor and creative “demiurge” of current Yoruba mythology.

And of course of he also models the value of the Republic over the monarchy. The Igbo had been marked by the multiplicity of their settlements in Ile-Ife which the Igbo know by its more ancient name as “Igbo-Omoku.” As a matter of fact, Obatala was a High Priest in the mold of the Igbo priesthood, like the Eze Nri, and aspects of this priestly function was absorbed by the Ooni who equally then also absorbed the monarchical order that replaced the Igbo republican order of the Obatala era.

https://www.vanguardngr.com/2019/08/ooni-of-ife-and-the-igbo-yoruba-relationship/

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Re: Why Ife Is Not Yoruba Land, It Belongs To The Igbos - Ooni And Prof Ade Obayemi by EzeNri(m): 11:55am On Mar 30, 2021
So, Yorubas, learn to respect your host

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Re: Why Ife Is Not Yoruba Land, It Belongs To The Igbos - Ooni And Prof Ade Obayemi by Nobody: 12:00pm On Mar 30, 2021
Then why yorubas hates Igbos so much??

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Re: Why Ife Is Not Yoruba Land, It Belongs To The Igbos - Ooni And Prof Ade Obayemi by dvdwed(m): 12:04pm On Mar 30, 2021
Shabaleen:
Then why yorubas hates Igbos so much??


Likes repell.


Them be one flesh.

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Re: Why Ife Is Not Yoruba Land, It Belongs To The Igbos - Ooni And Prof Ade Obayemi by StaffofOrayan(m): 12:06pm On Mar 30, 2021
EzeNri:
So, Yorubas, learn to respect your host

You need attention so much

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Re: Why Ife Is Not Yoruba Land, It Belongs To The Igbos - Ooni And Prof Ade Obayemi by Obalatule: 12:15pm On Mar 30, 2021
Thats common knowledge, Aboriginal ife people were of igbo stock and yoruba learnt to use the word "Oba" from them, even though they mixed up the real meaning

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Re: Why Ife Is Not Yoruba Land, It Belongs To The Igbos - Ooni And Prof Ade Obayemi by MASTAkiLLAh(m): 12:25pm On Mar 30, 2021
Shabaleen:
Then why yorubas hates Igbos so much??
the hatred is mutual. There shall be no headway in this country especially the South until the Igbos and Yoruba bury their childish hatchet which is instigated funny enough by their political elite. I travel a lot, I've seen amongst the ordinary man that they don't really give a damn about your tribe, just be fair in your dealings with him/her and they'll value you even higher than their brothers but unity amongst the ordinary man is not in the best interest of these wicked politicians

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Re: Why Ife Is Not Yoruba Land, It Belongs To The Igbos - Ooni And Prof Ade Obayemi by Adaibeku(f): 12:27pm On Mar 30, 2021
The afonja named resurrection.212 about to write his imo state hates ipob or imo hates igbo

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Re: Why Ife Is Not Yoruba Land, It Belongs To The Igbos - Ooni And Prof Ade Obayemi by hotwax: 12:27pm On Mar 30, 2021
Ife aboriginals were Ugbo, not Igbo.

Its like saying Sunday Igboho is Igbo because it has 'Igbo' in its pronunciation.

Thats what you get when you crown yahoo boys.

Oba Iwo already claimed Iwo is a fulani land..

Next Osogbo belongs to Ijaws

And we have Onugbo of Ugbo.. The king even claimed they are the real Yorubas. He claimed Yorubas already existed before Oduduwa came. Oduduwa met Yoruba culture.

No ooni yahoo king is claiming Ugbo people are Igbo...what the hell

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Re: Why Ife Is Not Yoruba Land, It Belongs To The Igbos - Ooni And Prof Ade Obayemi by Resurrection212: 12:34pm On Mar 30, 2021
Lol always claiming people land you think Yoruba people will allow injustice you Anambra people done to imo state just because of our oilwell.
Obalatule:
Thats common knowledge, Aboriginal ife people were of igbo stock and yoruba learnt to use the word "Oba" from them, even though they mixed up the real meaning

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Re: Why Ife Is Not Yoruba Land, It Belongs To The Igbos - Ooni And Prof Ade Obayemi by seunmsg(m): 12:36pm On Mar 30, 2021
You have only confirmed Yorubas historical account that Ile Ife is the source of mankind and centre of creation. You have also confirmed the historical account that Igbos and indeed lots of other tribes migrated from Ile Ife to their present settlement.

Prof. Banji Akintoye has previously argued that the Yoruba and Igbo languages are variation of a proto-language spoken at Ile Ife so many years. With the position of the OP, I think the prof is right.

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Re: Why Ife Is Not Yoruba Land, It Belongs To The Igbos - Ooni And Prof Ade Obayemi by Obalatule: 12:38pm On Mar 30, 2021
Resurrection212:
Lol always claiming people land you think Yoruba people will allow injustice you Anambra people done to imo state just because of our oilwell.
Adewale your poor family in ibadan will be ashamed of you for wanting to be igbo so bad, Adewale you cant be igbo even in a thousand life times grin grin

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Re: Why Ife Is Not Yoruba Land, It Belongs To The Igbos - Ooni And Prof Ade Obayemi by Resurrection212: 12:42pm On Mar 30, 2021
grin you are right I'm an historian and I know what you're saying. Ugbo have been in existence before arrival of oduduwa. But oduduwa chase ugbo out of ile ife ,after the death of oduduwa ugbo people almost conquered ife but moremi safe them But oluorogbo her only child was used as a sacrifice.

But because of supremacy of power ife will not accep this
hotwax:
Ife aboriginals were Ugbo, not Igbo.

Its like saying Sunday Igboho is Igbo because it has 'Igbo' in its pronunciation.

Thats what you get when you crown yahoo boys.

Oba Iwo already claimed Iwo is a fulani land..

Next Osogbo belongs to Ijaws

And we have Onugbo of Ugbo.. The king even claimed they are the real Yorubas. He claimed Yorubas already existed before Oduduwa came. Oduduwa met Yoruba culture.

No ooni yahoo king is claiming Ugbo people are Igbo...what the hell

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Re: Why Ife Is Not Yoruba Land, It Belongs To The Igbos - Ooni And Prof Ade Obayemi by BigSarah(f): 12:43pm On Mar 30, 2021
Interesting
Re: Why Ife Is Not Yoruba Land, It Belongs To The Igbos - Ooni And Prof Ade Obayemi by Resurrection212: 12:44pm On Mar 30, 2021
You can't deny me my igbo heritage. Come to owerri junction let us have this discussion there.
Obalatule:
Adewale your poor family in ibadan will be ashamed of you for wanting to be igbo so bad, Adewale you cant be igbo even in a thousand life times grin grin
Re: Why Ife Is Not Yoruba Land, It Belongs To The Igbos - Ooni And Prof Ade Obayemi by Obalatule: 12:47pm On Mar 30, 2021
Resurrection212:
You can't deny me my igbo heritage. Come to owerri junction let us have this discussion there.
Just as you cant deny my yoruba heritage cheesy

We yorubas especially ijebu are very wicked

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Re: Why Ife Is Not Yoruba Land, It Belongs To The Igbos - Ooni And Prof Ade Obayemi by Resurrection212: 12:51pm On Mar 30, 2021
What is my business with ijebu .if you are wicked then God will definitely arrest you .
Obalatule:
Just as you cant deny my yoruba heritage cheesy

We yorubas especially ijebu are very wicked
Re: Why Ife Is Not Yoruba Land, It Belongs To The Igbos - Ooni And Prof Ade Obayemi by Obalatule: 12:52pm On Mar 30, 2021
Resurrection212:
What is my business with ijebu .if you are wicked then God will definitely arrest you .
Yes we yoruba are also cowards, imagine Fulani chase a whole local government to Another country? angry

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Re: Why Ife Is Not Yoruba Land, It Belongs To The Igbos - Ooni And Prof Ade Obayemi by Racoon(m): 12:56pm On Mar 30, 2021
sad So Igbo has ancestral root to the Yorubas but none of such in the reverse yet they are always calling us names.

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Re: Why Ife Is Not Yoruba Land, It Belongs To The Igbos - Ooni And Prof Ade Obayemi by Resurrection212: 12:57pm On Mar 30, 2021
Out of point.
Obalatule:
Yes we yoruba are also cowards, imagine Fulani chase a whole local government to Another country? angry
Re: Why Ife Is Not Yoruba Land, It Belongs To The Igbos - Ooni And Prof Ade Obayemi by Obalatule: 1:05pm On Mar 30, 2021
Resurrection212:
Out of point.
We yoruba is the problem of this country seriously

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Re: Why Ife Is Not Yoruba Land, It Belongs To The Igbos - Ooni And Prof Ade Obayemi by EzeNri(m): 1:06pm On Mar 30, 2021
hotwax:
Ife aboriginals were Ugbo, not Igbo.

Its like saying Sunday Igboho is Igbo because it has 'Igbo' in its pronunciation.

Thats what you get when you crown yahoo boys.

Oba Iwo already claimed Iwo is a fulani land..

Next Osogbo belongs to Ijaws

And we have Onugbo of Ugbo.. The king even claimed they are the real Yorubas. He claimed Yorubas already existed before Oduduwa came. Oduduwa met Yoruba culture.

No ooni yahoo king is claiming Ugbo people are Igbo...what the hell
What about Prof Ade Obayemi whose research also found that Ife is Igboland?

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Re: Why Ife Is Not Yoruba Land, It Belongs To The Igbos - Ooni And Prof Ade Obayemi by EzeNri(m): 1:09pm On Mar 30, 2021
seunmsg:
You have only confirmed Yorubas historical account that Ile Ife is the source of mankind and centre of creation. You have also confirmed the historical account that Igbos and indeed lots of other tribes migrated from Ile Ife to their present settlement.

Prof. Banji Akintoye has previously argued that the Yoruba and Igbo languages are variation of a proto-language spoken at Ile Ife so many years. With the position of the OP, I think the prof is right.
We are not arguing that. What we are just letting you guys know is that Ife is abroginal Igbo land and the Obatala you people worship is an Igbo man.

Be grateful to your ancestors - ndi Igbo

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Re: Why Ife Is Not Yoruba Land, It Belongs To The Igbos - Ooni And Prof Ade Obayemi by seunmsg(m): 1:10pm On Mar 30, 2021
EzeNri:

What about Prof Ade Obayemi whose research also found that Ife is Igboland?

Ife was never Igboland. The ethnic group currently known as Igbo migrated from Ile Ife so many years ago just like other groups.

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Re: Why Ife Is Not Yoruba Land, It Belongs To The Igbos - Ooni And Prof Ade Obayemi by EzeNri(m): 1:11pm On Mar 30, 2021
Resurrection212:
grin you are right I'm an historian and I know what you're saying. Ugbo have been in existence before arrival of oduduwa. But oduduwa chase ugbo out of ile ife ,after the death of oduduwa ugbo people almost conquered ife but moremi safe them But oluorogbo her only child was used as a sacrifice.

But because of supremacy of power ife will not accep this
Only Yorubas say an historian.

It's actually a historian. Yorubas find it difficult pronouncing letter H.

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Re: Why Ife Is Not Yoruba Land, It Belongs To The Igbos - Ooni And Prof Ade Obayemi by Blacklion3: 1:12pm On Mar 30, 2021
EzeNri:
So, Yorubas, learn to respect your host

So you don't know he is silently subbing the igbos?

How come a tribe with no history will now be a
Percussor of a tribe that is able to trace it's history to Sudan grin

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Re: Why Ife Is Not Yoruba Land, It Belongs To The Igbos - Ooni And Prof Ade Obayemi by EzeNri(m): 1:13pm On Mar 30, 2021
Resurrection212:
You can't deny me my igbo heritage. Come to owerri junction let us have this discussion there.
Nothing like Owerri junction, Adewale.

From Orlu, to Mbaise and now Owerri Junction.

Is God not wonderful?

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Re: Why Ife Is Not Yoruba Land, It Belongs To The Igbos - Ooni And Prof Ade Obayemi by seunmsg(m): 1:13pm On Mar 30, 2021
EzeNri:

We are not arguing that. What we are just letting you guys know is that Ife is abroginal Igbo land and the Obatala you people worship is an Igbo man.

Be grateful to your ancestors - ndi Igbo

Obatala was the head of the 13 clans that made up Ile Ife before the arrival of Oduduwa. He was defeated and driven with his supporters to the current Ugbo town in Ondo state. Ugbo is still in existence till today in Ondo state. Ugbo has nothing to do with Igbo.

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Re: Why Ife Is Not Yoruba Land, It Belongs To The Igbos - Ooni And Prof Ade Obayemi by EzeNri(m): 1:14pm On Mar 30, 2021
Blacklion3:

So you don't know he is silently subbing the igbis
Ife is Igboland - Ooni

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Re: Why Ife Is Not Yoruba Land, It Belongs To The Igbos - Ooni And Prof Ade Obayemi by Blacklion3: 1:15pm On Mar 30, 2021
EzeNri:

Ife is Igboland - Ooni
.... (Even if it's not the truth)

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Re: Why Ife Is Not Yoruba Land, It Belongs To The Igbos - Ooni And Prof Ade Obayemi by EzeNri(m): 1:16pm On Mar 30, 2021
seunmsg:


Obatala was the head of the 13 clans that made up Ile Ife before the arrival of Oduduwa. He was defeated and driven to Ugbo. Ugbo is still in existence till today in Ondo state. Ugbo has nothing to do with Igbo.
Obatala is Nri Priest and Igbo King in Ife before Oduduwa the usurper came.

Ife means light in Igbo

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Re: Why Ife Is Not Yoruba Land, It Belongs To The Igbos - Ooni And Prof Ade Obayemi by EzeNri(m): 1:17pm On Mar 30, 2021
Blacklion3:

Tell them what they want to hear.... (Even if it's not the truth)
Ife is Igboland - History

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