9jaRealist:


Even though there is LAGFERRY Government should NOT be in the business of operating ferries...
Unless we want them run as a SUBSTANDARD social service, as with most things in the public sector.

The government has expended substantial capital in dredging and maintaining waterways...
That’s akin to building and maintaining roads and highways, and the private sector should step in from there.

PS: Btw, as far as I am aware, Ikorodu to VI on LAGFERRY (public) and Texas (private) is N500.
Nonetheless, Lagos slashed ferry fares by 40% last September: https://shipsandports.com.ng/lagos-slashes-ferry-fares-by-40/
>

I didn't know about the price slash. That's impressive.

9jaRealist:


Lagos has a Transportation Masterplan...

That masterplan is anchored on INTERMODAL transportation, encompassing road, rail and waterways.
Even the recently-introduced Cowry Card for BRT buses will be usable on ferries and trains (when the latter is operational).

Nonetheless, development is not necessarily piecemeal...
You cannot wait to finish every aspect of one mode of transportation before you begin the next.

Personally, I think the Lagos Light Rail project (particularly the initial Blue Line) should be much further ahead, but complex and capital-intensive infrastructure projects are not always easy (nor straightforward) to execute. Even in the world’s richest and arguably most technologically-advanced nation, the US, it took 25 years to complete the 1.5km Boston tunnel (the so-called “Big Dig”) and several decades to finally complete the Second Avenue subway line in New York City. Nonetheless, we can see that work continues on the Lagos Light Rail project (the Marina Bridge seems to be nearing completion), and hopefully the revised schedule of end of 2022 (for both the Blue and Red lines) comes to fruition.
>

You now get my point. The light rail project should have taken precedence as it's ongoing already.
Instead Ambode did not touch it for 4 years.
Even if it will take 20 years, let us see progress.

9jaRealist:


Lagos has a Transportation Masterplan...

That masterplan is anchored on INTERMODAL transportation, encompassing road, rail and waterways.
Even the recently-introduced Cowry Card for BRT buses will be usable on ferries and trains (when the latter is operational).

Nonetheless, development is not necessarily piecemeal...
You cannot wait to finish every aspect of one mode of transportation before you begin the next.

Personally, I think the Lagos Light Rail project (particularly the initial Blue Line) should be much further ahead, but complex and capital-intensive infrastructure projects are not always easy (nor straightforward) to execute. Even in the world’s richest and arguably most technologically-advanced nation, the US, it took 25 years to complete the 1.5km Boston tunnel (the so-called “Big Dig”) and several decades to finally complete the Second Avenue subway line in New York City. Nonetheless, we can see that work continues on the Lagos Light Rail project (the Marina Bridge seems to be nearing completion), and hopefully the revised schedule of end of 2022 (for both the Blue and Red lines) comes to fruition.
>

You write so well!

It is never about the infrastructure. It is always about the people.

Ajibel:


2022 4th quarter

Lagos Light Rail: 17 years after, failed promises, rot, neglect trail project
More than a decade since the construction of the Lagos Light Rail has commenced, it has failed to see the light of the day.

Last December, the incumbent governor, Babajide Sanwo-Olu, said the blue line rail project will be completed in 2020 and become operational in 2021. Mr Sanwo-Olu spoke after inspecting the five-kilometre- long beam bridge constructed from Iganmu to Marina, as part of the fourth phase of the project. He claimed that the completion of the sea-crossing track indicated his administration’s commitment towards finishing the state-funded track started in 2009.

https://www.premiumtimesng.com/investigationspecial-reports/431862-lagos-light-rail-17-years-after-failed-promises-rot-neglect-trail-project.html

Rodeoz:
You don't need any four years. The structure is already looking ragged. They used inferior materials. If you get there now you'll think its one 70years old project.

If they used inferior materials, that means that structure can collapse soon.

Sai Buhari

may GOD bless ambode wherever he is

9jaRealist:


Perhaps the state should use a private Facilities Management company to run and maintain the terminal...
>

That would be better

sulaak:


Lagos Light Rail: 17 years after, failed promises, rot, neglect trail project
More than a decade since the construction of the Lagos Light Rail has commenced, it has failed to see the light of the day.

Last December, the incumbent governor, Babajide Sanwo-Olu, said the blue line rail project will be completed in 2020 and become operational in 2021. Mr Sanwo-Olu spoke after inspecting the five-kilometre- long beam bridge constructed from Iganmu to Marina, as part of the fourth phase of the project. He claimed that the completion of the sea-crossing track indicated his administration’s commitment towards finishing the state-funded track started in 2009.

https://www.premiumtimesng.com/investigationspecial-reports/431862-lagos-light-rail-17-years-after-failed-promises-rot-neglect-trail-project.html

The Managing Director of the Lagos Metropolitan Area Transport Authority, Mrs Abimbola Akinajo, has said the Lagos Red Rail Line will be operational in 24 months (October 2022).

She made this statement in Lagos on Tuesday at a milestone meeting on the implementation of the Lagos Rail Mass Transit Red and Blue Line projects with the contractors and consultants.

Akinajo said the meeting was to reaffirm the already established positions on timelines for the delivery of the rail lines to passenger operation according to a statement by Assistant Director, Corporate Communication of LAMATA, Kolawole Ojelabi, titled ‘Lagos red rail line will be operational in 24 months’.

Source: Punch

God bless Jagaban

thebosstrevor1:
So this interchange was created because of buses.

So you spend millions of dollars to build a bus station....this is hilarious

I give that place 4 years, it will turn to waste site, the toilets will be filled with feaces, urine smell will be over the place, people trying to sell things will occupy everwhere.

4 years ti pe ju, what you didn't see is that miscreant are the major occupants of that edifice.

Eko for show, Lagos for action. Eko o ni baje o.

This should be renamed after MKO or BAT Himself

I pray all these miscreants in oshodi won't vandalize this lovely place. Oshodi na agbero town.







quote author=travelwaka post=100355560]These are some of the facilities available at the terminal

Car Park
Food Court
Lobby
Restrooms
Halls
Lifts
Escalators
Waiting Area
Skywalk
Offices
Loading Bay
Ticketing booth
Drivers Lounge
Information desk
Luggage Holding
Retail Outlets
ATM Gallery
First Aid Station
Emergency exits[/quote]

sulaak:
It's called priority!

Spending millions on 800 new buses from Brazil at a time when the blue line desperately needed investment is the reason why the light rail project might never happen.

It’s called “a low hanging fruit”...
While you are building a long-term rail project, people need buses TODAY to conveniently get around the City.

PS: Meanwhile, forget the primitively crude political “probe” which has now been abandoned...
It was the same 820 buses that the current administration launched with fan fare, and used to ameliorate the Okada ban.
>

>

sulaak:
It's called priority!

Spending millions on 800 new buses from Brazil at a time when the blue line desperately needed investment is the reason why the light rail project might never happen.

And further btw (since many folks here apparently swear by Premium Times), here’s a linked report below on the “desperately needed investment” made by the Ambode administration in the Light Rail project (and this does not include the deal with Alstom of France). In fact, most of the Marina Bridge was built during the Ambode government.

https://www.premiumtimesng.com/regional/ssouth-west/280441-ambode-govt-spends-over-100mn-euros-on-lagos-light-rail-project.html

_____________________________________________

PS: If there’s something anyone here should know about me is that I am primarily and principally interested in GOVERNANCE, with little or no appetite for crude partisan politics. That’s why, as a Lagosian, I have always been relatively proud that for the most part since the advent of civilian rule (at least since the Fashola administration), Lagos has seemingly prioritized GOVERNANCE over individual and personal glory-hunting.
>

9jaRealist:


It’s called “a low hanging fruit”...
While you are building a long-term rail project, people need buses TODAY to conveniently get around the City.

PS: Meanwhile, forget the primitively crude political “probe” which has now been abandoned...
It was the same 820 buses that the current administration launched with fan fare, and used to ameliorate the Okada ban.
>

>

A long term project that is now 17 years!

Similar countries, Ethiopia for example completed the projects within 2-4 years. The longer the project the less viable the project becomes.
The Blue and Red line will soon become another relic Ajaokuta Steel plant. The skills and technology becomes redundant and will require a complete overhaul.

9jaRealist:


And further btw (since many folks here apparently swear by Premium Times), here’s a linked report below on the “desperately needed investment” made by the Ambode administration in the Light Rail project (and this does not include the deal with Alstom of France). In fact, most of the Marina Bridge was built during the Ambode government.

https://www.premiumtimesng.com/regional/ssouth-west/280441-ambode-govt-spends-over-100mn-euros-on-lagos-light-rail-project.html

_____________________________________________

PS: If there’s something anyone here should know about me is that I am primarily and principally interested in GOVERNANCE, with little or no appetite for crude partisan politics. That’s why, as a Lagosian, I have always been relatively proud that for the most part since the advent of civilian rule (at least since the Fashola administration), Lagos has seemingly prioritized GOVERNANCE over individual and personal glory-hunting.
>

Governance and operations were the mantras under the Fashola regime, but under both Ambode and Sanwo Olu, I am concerned that their weak political standing is limiting their ability to deliver critical projects such as the Blue and Redline.

It's no secret that the operation of the BRT is owned by former governor Bola Tinubu relation Fola Tinub, I understand that politics always comes into account whenever you are working on a multi-million dollar programme but diverting million of funds from the Blue line to the procurement of 820 buses using world bank loan is criminal. This is after the $400m loan France Alstom.

The longer the Blue line and red line is delayed the less likely it will happen, Lagos doesn't have enough roads and bridges to manage 2 million vehicles hence the importance and priority of rail systems in Lagos.

Fola Tinubu, managing director of Primero Transport Services Limited, operator of Lagos Bus Rapid Transit (BRT), thought it wise to invest in the busiest city in Africa, in a bid to solve transportation issues.
https://businessday.ng/transport/article/fola-tinubu-pioneering-modern-transportation-in-lagos-state/

travelwaka:
Thank you for this question

1. Nope there are other terminal in Lagos, there is one in TBS, there is another at airport road in ikeja, there is another one in ikorodu and many other parts of lagos but in all, this is the biggest

2. Yes they are planning to change the face of transportation in lagos such that driving will seems like hardwork. The first step is to make make the terminals look good

3. Oshodi is like the center of lagos
Its less than 10 minutes to the airport
Less than 10 minutes to ikeja less than 20 minutes to berger
Less than 45 minutes to ikorodu
Less than 30 minutes to the island
Less than 40 minutes to Apapa
And this terminals are built in between two of the most busy roads in lagos, Agege motor road and Apapa expressway
Please the above timing is without traffic o �.


[b]The only way to encourage the Nigerian middle class to ditch their cars is to make the buses and terminals conducive. [/b]Eg if driving take you 3 hours to get to work and BRT 1 hour and the buses are good, the place is conducive, which would you choose?

The only way to encourage the Nigerian middle class to ditch their cars is to complete the Blue and Red line now. The middle class are now using the Abuja to Kano railway because it's safe, clean and operational.

The Lagos middle class cannot be expected to depend on a transport system that will still have to navigate the Lagos roads congestion.

My suggestions

1. Complete the light rail programme
2. Introduce congestion charge, Lagosian should pay to use the roads
3. Use the funds from the Congestion Charge to improve the roads

Remain proper and periodic maintenance... Eko for show

sulaak:
A long term project that is now 17 years!

Similar countries, Ethiopia for example completed the projects within 2-4 years. The longer the project the less viable the project becomes.
The Blue and Red line will soon become another relic Ajaokuta Steel plant. The skills and technology becomes redundant and will require a complete overhaul.

It has NOT been 17 years (which would’ve been under Tinubu)...
Rather, construction started in 2009 under Fashola’s administration.

Furthermore, as I had already noted elsewhere on this thread, substantial delays in complex and capital-intensive infrastructure projects are not abnormal. Even in the world’s richest-ever nation, the United States, it took 25 years (and billions of dollars in cost overruns) to build the 1.5m Boston Tunnel (the so-called “Big Dig”), while the Second Avenue subway line in NYC was only completed in 2017 after several decades of work. One has to bear in mind that this is a project that was begun when the exchange rate was about $1/N115, as opposed to about $1/N400 presently. That means that, even without any cost variation, Lagos has to find MORE THAN THREE TIMES the original budgetary allocation.
>

sulaak:
Governance and operations were the mantras under the Fashola regime, but under both Ambode and Sanwo Olu, I am concerned that their weak political standing is limiting their ability to deliver critical projects such as the Blue and Redline.

It's no secret that the operation of the BRT is owned by former governor Bola Tinubu relation Fola Tinub, I understand that politics always comes into account whenever you are working on a multi-million dollar programme but diverting million of funds from the Blue line to the procurement of 820 buses using world bank loan is criminal. This is after the $400m loan France Alstom.

The longer the Blue line and red line is delayed the less likely it will happen, Lagos doesn't have enough roads and bridges to manage 2 million vehicles hence the importance and priority of rail systems in Lagos.

Where do you dudes pull this stuff out from?

There was NO such loan from Alstom....
Alstom’s role in the Light Rail project is to electrify a portion of the Blue Line and help Lagos source for rolling stock.

Btw, the “operation of the BRT” is NOT owned by Fola Tinubu. Rather, Primero (the company headed by Fola Tinubu as CEO) is a concessionaire for just ONE BRT route (Ikorodu-TBS), out of the 13 BRT routes set forth in the Lagos Transportation Masterplan. Meanwhile, the same Primero bid for and lost the concession to operate the Oshodi-Abule Egba BRT route. Furthermore, while I don’t know if Fola Tinubu is a “relation” of Bola Tinubu, it is substantively irrelevant since the concession of each BRT route is subject to an open public bidding process (a requirement by the World Bank in making the $200m loan for the Lagos Urban Transport Project, which includes funding for BRT infrastructure).
>

sulaak:
Governance and operations were the mantras under the Fashola regime, but under both Ambode and Sanwo Olu, I am concerned that their weak political standing is limiting their ability to deliver critical projects such as the Blue and Redline.

It's no secret that the operation of the BRT is owned by former governor Bola Tinubu relation Fola Tinub, I understand that politics always comes into account whenever you are working on a multi-million dollar programme but diverting million of funds from the Blue line to the procurement of 820 buses using world bank loan is criminal. This is after the $400m loan France Alstom.

The longer the Blue line and red line is delayed the less likely it will happen, Lagos doesn't have enough roads and bridges to manage 2 million vehicles hence the importance and priority of rail systems in Lagos.

The current schedule for completion of both Blue and Red lines is end of 2022...
In the meantime, Lagosians should not be trekking so that all transportation funds can be devoted to only one mode of transport.
>

9jaRealist:


Where do you dudes pull this stuff out from?

There was NO such loan from Alstom....
Alstom’s role in the Light Rail project is to electrify a portion of the Blue Line and help Lagos source for rolling stock.

Btw, the “operation of the BRT” is NOT owned by Fola Tinubu. Rather, Primero (the company headed by Fola Tinubu as CEO) is a concessionaire for just ONE BRT route (Ikorodu-TBS), out of the 13 BRT routes set forth in the Lagos Transportation Masterplan. Meanwhile, the same Primero bid for and lost the concession to operate the Oshodi-Abule Egba BRT route. Furthermore, while I don’t know if Fola Tinubu is a “relation” of Bola Tinubu, it is substantively irrelevant since the concession of each BRT route is subject to an open public bidding process (a requirement by the World Bank in making the $200m loan for the Lagos Urban Transport Project, which includes funding for BRT infrastructure).
>

Who owns Primero?

9jaRealist:


The current schedule for completion of both Blue and Red lines is end of 2022...
In the meantime, Lagosians should not be trekking so that all transportation funds can be devoted to only one mode of transport.
>

It's now 2022!

When do you stop defending fraud and incompetence, Ambode, Sanwo-Olu, Fashola are all linked to the same political party and godfather yet they cannot complete a 4-year project in 17 years!

Last December, the incumbent governor, Babajide Sanwo-Olu, said the blue line rail project will be completed in 2020 and become operational in 2021. Mr Sanwo-Olu spoke after inspecting the five-kilometre- long beam bridge constructed from Iganmu to Marina, as part of the fourth phase of the project.18 Dec 2020

Immediately the immediate past governor of the state, Akinwunmi Ambode, came into office in 2015, he promised that by December 2016, the first phase would be commissioned. Asked about a start date for the line in an interview conducted in November 2015, Mr Ambode told Reuters: “By December 2016, that should be delivered.”


When the 2011 target failed, Mr Fashola said that June 2013 was the completion date for the first phase of the project. But the projection failed yet again. Thereafter, Mr Fashola said it would be completed before he left office in 2015 but, again, this promise could not be fulfilled.


https://www.premiumtimesng.com/investigationspecial-reports/431862-lagos-light-rail-17-years-after-failed-promises-rot-neglect-trail-project.html

9jaRealist:


It has NOT been 17 years (which would’ve been under Tinubu)...
Rather, construction started in 2009 under Fashola’s administration.

Furthermore, as I had already noted elsewhere on this thread, substantial delays in complex and capital-intensive infrastructure projects are not abnormal. Even in the world’s richest-ever nation, the United States, it took 25 years (and billions of dollars in cost overruns) to build the 1.5m Boston Tunnel (the so-called “Big Dig”), while the Second Avenue subway line in NYC was only completed in 2017 after several decades of work. One has to bear in mind that this is a project that was begun when the exchange rate was about $1/N115, as opposed to about $1/N400 presently. That means that, even without any cost variation, Lagos has to find MORE THAN THREE TIMES the original budgetary allocation.
>

The plan started in 2003, you pay for plan and design they are not free and usually cost millions of dollar.


Stop using Western failure as a barometer for Nigeria failure. Will, you also use USA success in road construction to justify Nigeria lack of investment in road construction or rail network. Nigeria failure is unique to Nigeria, poorer countries like Vietnam, Ethiopia and Morocco have been able to build light rail within record time, Egypt, Iran and Algeria have underground rail network.

Vietnam does not have light rail

sulaak:


The plan started in 2003, you pay for plan and design they are not free and usually cost millions of dollar.


Stop using Western failure as a barometer for Nigeria failure. Will, you also use USA success in road construction to justify Nigeria lack of investment in road construction or rail network. Nigeria failure is unique to Nigeria, poorer countries like Vietnam, Ethiopia and Morocco have been able to build light rail within record time, Egypt, Iran and Algeria have underground rail network.

Hello! I need a help please.
Can I get a bus from one of these terminal going towards Ajah?
I need to get to Lekki Phase 1 tomorrow for an interview.

Someone told me I can take Oshodi to Ajah bus at the terminal then alight at Lekki? How possible is that?
He also said I may need the cowry card which I don't have. Can I just get to bus station and buy my ticket?


I need help please!