Assuming, I have the funds to sponsor myself around $35k for study at either UK or Canada..

Which would you advise someone to pursue provided the person primary goal is to stay back and become a permanent resident.

Details reply would be much appreciated..

Thanks in anticipation.

If you're studying for a med profession, you can go anywhere. If you're not, Canada.

That said:
- It's cheaper to fly home from the UK.
- Brits have more class (generally speaking).
- Brits are better educated.
- The UK has more black people.
- The UK has better infrastructure.
- Studying in Canada is a more guaranteed path to citizenship. The UK baits and switches to get your money.
- Canada has more paths to citizenship, like regional immigration.
- Canada's Caribana is much larger than Notting Hill.
- Canada gives you easy access to America.
- Both places have tons of beautiful African and Caribbean women.
- Both places are pretty racist, but it seems the UK likes to deny it more, so I guess Canada puts you in a better position to fight it. But I'm not aware of a lot of related legal activity.
- Your children's connection to their culture will be about the same in both places, but the UK has edge. In Canada, they're more likely to be influenced by dûmb Americans.

Cousin9999:
If you're studying for a med profession, you can go anywhere. If you're not, Canada.

That said:
- It's cheaper to fly home from the UK.
- Brits have more class (generally speaking).
- Brits are better educated.
- The UK has more black people.
- The UK has better infrastructure.
- Studying in Canada is a more guaranteed path to citizenship. The UK baits and switches to get your money.
- Canada has more paths to citizenship, like regional immigration.
- Canada's Caribana is much larger than Notting Hill.
- Canada gives you easy access to America.
- Both places have tons of beautiful African and Caribbean women.
- Both places are pretty racist, but it seems the UK likes to deny it more, so I guess Canada puts you in a better position to fight it. But I'm not aware of a lot of related legal activity.
- Your children's connection to their culture will be about the same in both places, but the UK has edge. In Canada, they're more likely to be influenced by dûmb Americans.

some of what you wrote there are not true.If you must know majority of international students in uk process canada express entry after graduation. He get why

Cousin9999:
If you're studying for a med profession, you can go anywhere. If you're not, Canada.

That said:
- It's cheaper to fly home from the UK.
- Brits have more class (generally speaking).
- Brits are better educated.
- The UK has more black people.
- The UK has better infrastructure.
- Studying in Canada is a more guaranteed path to citizenship. The UK baits and switches to get your money.
- Canada has more paths to citizenship, like regional immigration.
- Canada's Caribana is much larger than Notting Hill.
- Canada gives you easy access to America.
- Both places have tons of beautiful African and Caribbean women.
- Both places are pretty racist, but it seems the UK likes to deny it more, so I guess Canada puts you in a better position to fight it. But I'm not aware of a lot of related legal activity.
- Your children's connection to their culture will be about the same in both places, but the UK has edge. In Canada, they're more likely to be influenced by dûmb Americans.

The UK baits and switches to get your money. this was what I was telling an agent I consulted for some information.. UK always switch things up and stories I heard about getting PR there is not nice.

I don't want to invest my money and time where am less likely to get PR. But I would prefer UK more culture and less cold.

I really appreciate the time you took to make this input. Much appreciated.

The UK student visa process is more straightforward and certain (as well as cash-intensive) - today is 1st April, and with your $35k, you can start making arrangements with your people in the UK if any for a planned arrival in August and you have a 95% chance of keeping to those arrangements, all other things remaining equal.

You have only a 25% chance of getting a Canadian student's visa, so you weigh that. The standard UK 1 year masters degree is effectively 9 months - you can complete that and the average person who has embarked upon the Canadian student's visa process will still be waiting or will have already gone through at least one rejection.

On the other hand, if you do manage to get a Canadian student's visa, you have a clearer and way better path to permanent residence than in the UK.

Pros and cons full everywhere.

MichaelUde:
The UK student visa process is more straightforward and certain (as well as cash-intensive) - today is 1st April, and with your $35k, you can start making arrangements with your people in the UK if any for a planned arrival in August and you have a 95% chance of keeping to those arrangements, all other things remaining equal.

You have only a 25% chance of getting a Canadian student's visa, so you weigh that. The standard UK 1 year masters degree is effectively 9 months - you can complete that and the average person who has embarked upon the Canadian student's visa process will still be waiting or will have already gone through at least one rejection.

On the other hand, if you do manage to get a Canadian student's visa, you have a clearer and a better path to permanent residence than in the UK.

Pros and cons full everywhere.

Thanks very much I really appreciate your input..

ednut1:
some of what you wrote there are not true.If you must know majority of international students in uk process canada express entry after graduation. He get why

Can you expantiate your point

Canada has the best Education system in the world

UK certificate is recognize and respected around the world


If you wanna stay and get ur self a PR
Canada will be you choice

Just know it's very expensive

There is nothing special about the Canadian educational system.

The average UK university has a much more diverse student body than most Canadian universities and the UK economy and job market is larger than anything Canada has to offer. The student experience, at least pre-covid, was and will be miles better in the UK than in Canada, which is basically very provincial.

Nicoswit:

Can you expantiate your point

after studying in uk you are likely to end back in 9ja. To get job or work visa after na die

Ideally I will agree with you but poster should take into consideration that thigs are changing following the UKs exit from the EU as they are now moving towards a point based system like Canada. Previously we were at the bottom of the barrel given Eu citizens from 20+ countries had free movement and priority.

This is not me saying UK over Canada, just a point to be taken into consideration.

ednut1:
after studying in uk you are likely to end back in 9ja. To get job or work visa after na die

ttmacoy:
Ideally I will agree with you but poster should take into consideration that thigs are changing following the UKs exit from the EU as they are now moving towards a point based system like Canada. Previously we were at the bottom of the barrel given Eu citizens from 20+ countries had free movement and priority.

This is not me saying UK over Canada, just a point to be taken into consideration.

point system that majority cant qualify for. Phd, stem, job offer with a certain salary cap, abeg o

I don't know all the details of the new programs and I expect things will continue to evolve as the UK fully disengages from the EU, but as I said it's for poster to take into consideration not that I am saying UK over Canada.

ednut1:
point system that majority cant qualify for. Phd, stem, job offer with a certain salary cap, abeg o

Thank you for your input so far..

Go for Canada ...no talk say I no tell you ...UK will only take your money and send you bk to naija ...Canada will offer you everything and also give you citizenship within short period of time and you will also have access to USA ...what else do you want ?

snowlordng:
Go for Canada ...no talk say I no tell you ...UK will only take your money and send you bk to naija ...Canada will offer you everything and also give you citizenship within short period of time and you will also have access to USA ...what else do you want ?

Chances of getting canada admissions is low. And long time frame

temmy59:


Chances of getting canada admissions is low. And long time frame

false ...research about Nigeria express requirement for Canada study visa

If I were you, I'll go to Canada.

No time to waste time... Just go to Canada. UK doesn't have a clear path to citizenship. Get Canadian citizenship and the whole world including UK is at your fingertips.

temmy59:


Chances of getting canada admissions is low. And long time frame

And if you get admission, you may be denied visa. I think UK is easier, but if I were in his shoes, I will choose Canada.

I would choose the UK based on distance alone.

Long flights are just not cool.

EgunMogaji2:
I would choose the UK based on distance alone.

Long flights are just not cool.

In comparison with long road trips on nigerian roads, which would be more gruelling Sir??

jeraw:
In comparison with long road trips on nigerian roads, which would be more gruelling Sir??

For “me” the eighteen hours flights are more grueling.

If I was to do it all over again I’ll choose Spain or Italy.

abbyode:
No time to waste time... Just go to Canada. UK doesn't have a clear path to citizenship. Get Canadian citizenship and the whole world including UK is at your fingertips.

I am just reading this thread....To make things a bit clear to you, everyone intending to have a Canadian PR MUST apply through express entry. So literally, if you studied in Somalia, UK, US, Nigeria or CANADA, you all have an almost equal level base of application for PR. Now, there are some factors that add points to your application and will guaranteed your PR if you meet those points. you can go to the canadian express entry thread to get more info on that.

The point of my post is that, your MSc education acquired in Canada ONLY adds 2 points to the overall points needed for PR qualification, this is almost insignificant especially when you need lots of points. Now, this is the only advantage you have over someone that studied elsewhere other than canada with regards to education and PR Points.

The major advantage an international canadian student will have over his contemporaries is the advantage of being in Canada and having direct or physical assess to employers for job application and applying for jobs to differnt provinces. The application for jobs can be done by anyone outside canada as well, but I think the person legally inside canada will be giving priority assuming all applicants have same qualification, that's the only advantage here. If you are fortunate to secure employment or any province nominate you based on your application, then it is almost guaranteed that you will be call to apply for PR.

Summarily, you can still be in UK and apply for Canadian PR just like the student in canada will do with little advantage of educational point, except if he is fortunate to secure employment or get nominated by a province which you could as well benefit without studying in Canada. By the way, if anyone have to hope on fate to secure employment in canada that will boost his express entry points, why not hope on fate to secure employment after study in UK and secure your indefinite leave after 5yrs of stay in UK..this years include your duration of studies and employment years in UK?

I felt the need to contribute because I know someone in future, maybe my son will google the pros and cons of this topic discussed and be enlightened just like I stumbled on a thread dated 10years back, and it was helpful.

Gwan2:


I am just reading this thread....To make things a bit clear to you, everyone intending to have a Canadian PR MUST apply through express entry. So literally, if you studied in Somalia, UK, US, Nigeria or CANADA, you all have an almost equal level base of application for PR. Now, there are some factors that add points to your application and will guaranteed your PR if you meet those points. you can go to the canadian express entry thread to get more info on that.

The point of my post is that, your MSc education acquired in Canada ONLY adds 2 points to the overall points needed for PR qualification, this is almost insignificant especially when you need lots of points. Now, this is the only advantage you have over someone that studied elsewhere other than canada with regards to education and PR Points.

The major advantage an international canadian student will have over his contemporaries is the advantage of being in Canada and having direct or physical assess to employers for job application and applying for jobs to differnt provinces. The application for jobs can be done by anyone outside canada as well, but I think the person legally inside canada will be giving priority assuming all applicants have same qualification, that's the only advantage here. If you are fortunate to secure employment or any province nominate you based on your application, then it is almost guaranteed that you will be call to apply for PR.

Summarily, you can still be in UK and apply for Canadian PR just like the student in canada will do with little advantage of educational point, except if he is fortunate to secure employment or get nominated by a province which you could as well benefit without studying in Canada. By the way, if anyone have to hope on fate to secure employment in canada that will boost his express entry points, why not hope on fate to secure employment after study in UK and secure your indefinite leave after 5yrs of stay in UK..this years include your duration of studies and employment years in UK?

I felt the need to contribute because I know someone in future, maybe my son will google the pros and cons of this topic discussed and be enlightened just like I stumbled on a thread dated 10years back, and it was helpful.

the Canada masters gives 30 extra points not 2

ednut1:
the Canada masters gives 30 extra points not 2

Ok, Thanks…though the 2 points I meant was among the overall points required to be eligible for federal skilled worker application or provincial nominations, which is the first step requirement for express entry application.

The 30 points you emphasised is on the CRS tool, which is rightly so as well.

In all, my emphasis was you could study anywhere and smash express entry requirements which your Canadian counterpart will likewise be obligated to meet.

Gwan2:


I am just reading this thread....To make things a bit clear to you, everyone intending to have a Canadian PR MUST apply through express entry. So literally, if you studied in Somalia, UK, US, Nigeria or CANADA, you all have an almost equal level base of application for PR. Now, there are some factors that add points to your application and will guaranteed your PR if you meet those points. you can go to the canadian express entry thread to get more info on that.

The point of my post is that, your MSc education acquired in Canada ONLY adds 2 points to the overall points needed for PR qualification, this is almost insignificant especially when you need lots of points. Now, this is the only advantage you have over someone that studied elsewhere other than canada with regards to education and PR Points.

The major advantage an international canadian student will have over his contemporaries is the advantage of being in Canada and having direct or physical assess to employers for job application and applying for jobs to differnt provinces. The application for jobs can be done by anyone outside canada as well, but I think the person legally inside canada will be giving priority assuming all applicants have same qualification, that's the only advantage here. If you are fortunate to secure employment or any province nominate you based on your application, then it is almost guaranteed that you will be call to apply for PR.

Summarily, you can still be in UK and apply for Canadian PR just like the student in canada will do with little advantage of educational point, except if he is fortunate to secure employment or get nominated by a province which you could as well benefit without studying in Canada. By the way, if anyone have to hope on fate to secure employment in canada that will boost his express entry points, why not hope on fate to secure employment after study in UK and secure your indefinite leave after 5yrs of stay in UK..this years include your duration of studies and employment years in UK?

I felt the need to contribute because I know someone in future, maybe my son will google the pros and cons of this topic discussed and be enlightened just like I stumbled on a thread dated 10years back, and it was helpful.

Bro, your analysis and conclusion that when it comes to PR through the express entry, someone that studied outside of Canada has equal level base with another person that studied in Canada is incorrect for the following reasons:

1. Considering that after you completed your studies in Canada, you can apply for a Post Graduation Work Permit (PGWP) to gain work experience which you can in turn use to apply for PR through the Canadian Work Experience Class. The person that studied outside of Canada can not have PGWP and as a result will not have Canadian experience needed to be able to apply through the Canadian Work Experience Class. Note that job offer is not required for this pathway.

2. Some provinces also have special pathway to PR for people that graduated from their provinces. Again, a person that studied outside of Canada does not have that opportunity. Granted, you need to study in that province to qualify but at least you can narrow your schooling to such provinces when applying to study. Note that I am not talking about the generic Provincial Nomination Pathway here. For this special provincial nomination, you must have completed your studies in the province that have this program in place.

3. See the link here for more options that someone who studied in Canada has over and above the options everybody else has:
https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/services/study-canada/work/after-graduation.html

Gwan2:

By the way, if anyone have to hope on fate to secure employment in canada that will boost his express entry points, why not hope on fate to secure employment after study in UK and secure your indefinite leave after 5yrs of stay in UK..this years include your duration of studies and employment years in UK?

As for the above, this is misinformation. The time you spent on your student visa (about 4 or 5 years for first degree and 1 or 2 years for Masters and 3 or more years for PhD) and on graduate work visa ( 2 or 3 years work visa as the case may be) does not count toward the 5 years needed to secure indefinite leave. See the link here for the time on other visa that counts towards your indefinite leave: https://www.gov.uk/indefinite-leave-to-remain-tier-2-t2-skilled-worker-visa/time-uk

Gwan2:


Ok, Thanks…though the 2 points I meant was among the overall points required to be eligible for federal skilled worker application or provincial nominations, which is the first step requirement for express entry application.

The 30 points you emphasised is on the CRS tool, which is rightly so as well.

In all, my emphasis was you could study anywhere and smash express entry requirements which your Canadian counterpart will likewise be obligated to meet.

you have no working knowledge of express entry. Any tom dick and harry can score 67 needed. If you have 68 but your cre scores is 310 it’s useless anyways

naijaman3:


Bro, your analysis and conclusion that when it comes to PR through the express entry, someone that studied outside of Canada has equal level base with another person that studied in Canada is incorrect for the following reasons:

1. Considering that after you completed your studies in Canada, you can apply for a Post Graduation Work Permit (PGWP) to gain work experience which you can in turn use to apply for PR through the Canadian Work Experience Class. The person that studied outside of Canada can not have PGWP and as a result will not have Canadian experience needed to be able to apply through the Canadian Work Experience Class. Note that job offer is not required for this pathway.

2. Some provinces also have special pathway to PR for people that graduated from their provinces. Again, a person that studied outside of Canada does not have that opportunity. Granted, you need to study in that province to qualify but at least you can narrow your schooling to such provinces when applying to study. Note that I am not talking about the generic Provincial Nomination Pathway here. For this special provincial nomination, you must have completed your studies in the province that have this program in place.

3. See the link here for more options that someone who studied in Canada has over and above the options everybody else has:
https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/services/study-canada/work/after-graduation.html



As for the above, this is misinformation. The time you spent on your student visa (about 4 or 5 years for first degree and 1 or 2 years for Masters and 3 or more years for PhD) and on graduate work visa ( 2 or 3 years work visa as the case may be) does not count toward the 5 years needed to secure indefinite leave. See the link here for the time on other visa that counts towards your indefinite leave: https://www.gov.uk/indefinite-leave-to-remain-tier-2-t2-skilled-worker-visa/time-uk

the guy conclusion and explanations just tire me

naijaman3:


Bro, your analysis and conclusion that when it comes to PR through the express entry, someone that studied outside of Canada has equal level base with another person that studied in Canada is incorrect for the following reasons:

1. Considering that after you completed your studies in Canada, you can apply for a Post Graduation Work Permit (PGWP) to gain work experience which you can in turn use to apply for PR through the Canadian Work Experience Class. The person that studied outside of Canada can not have PGWP and as a result will not have Canadian experience needed to be able to apply through the Canadian Work Experience Class. Note that job offer is not required for this pathway.

2. Some provinces also have special pathway to PR for people that graduated from their provinces. Again, a person that studied outside of Canada does not have that opportunity. Granted, you need to study in that province to qualify but at least you can narrow your schooling to such provinces when applying to study. Note that I am not talking about the generic Provincial Nomination Pathway here. For this special provincial nomination, you must have completed your studies in the province that have this program in place.

3. See the link here for more options that someone who studied in Canada has over and above the options everybody else has:
https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/services/study-canada/work/after-graduation.html



As for the above, this is misinformation. The time you spent on your student visa (about 4 or 5 years for first degree and 1 or 2 years for Masters and 3 or more years for PhD) and on graduate work visa ( 2 or 3 years work visa as the case may be) does not count toward the 5 years needed to secure indefinite leave. See the link here for the time on other visa that counts towards your indefinite leave: https://www.gov.uk/indefinite-leave-to-remain-tier-2-t2-skilled-worker-visa/time-uk

I am more enlightened now…thanks. I will send you a dm.