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Has Religion Affected The Society Positively Or Negatively? by Zenzu01(m): 10:13am On Apr 04
Has Religion affected the society positively or negatively?

My Answer

‘If people are good only because they fear punishment, and hope for reward, then we are a sorry lot indeed.’ ~Albert Einstein

We have learned to fly in the air like a bird and swim in the sea like a fish, but we have not yet learned the simple art of living together. ~Anonymous

This two quotes above have deep meaning and relevance.
Many people do things today not because they know it is the right thing to do but just for the fear of going to hell.

Christianity teaches about the paying of tithes. Most Christians pay tithes not because they want to use the resources to take Care of the Pastors or Priests but because they have been threatened to do so or else face the Wrath of God.

Islam is a religion of peace but many acts of terrorism has been attributed to it because most terrorists have twisted a verse or two to suit their purpose thereby, claiming that they fight for Allah when infact they do it for their selfish gain alone.

Most fights, crisis, riot and even wars come as a result of the different religious beliefs in the world. You see Christians attacking Muslims and vice versa. You hear words like “your religion is not the right religion”, “you are an unbeliever if you don’t follow the teachings of my religion”, “you will go to hell if you don’t follow my religion”.

Imagine if the reward for being good and the punishment to being evil is removed. How many people will still go church or mosque, how many people will still pay tithe or give to the needy, how many people will still be his or her brothers and sisters keeper.

My candid advice is that we should leave religions when doing things. We should do things because they are good and are for the benefit to mankind. We should not do things that are harmful to others.

Remember Jesus did not say heaven is meant for Christians or Muslims or traditional worshipers but it is meant for only those that do the Will of God. This implies that your religion does not take you to either heaven or hell but only your deeds.

Have this mindset from today. Give alms to the needy not because your pastor says so but because it will help save a life from starving.

When you have this mindset, even when your pastor doesn’t tell you, you will do it anyway because you know it is the right thing to do.

©Adesoji Michael

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Re: Has Religion Affected The Society Positively Or Negatively? by Myer: 10:34am On Apr 04
Zenzu01:
Has Religion affected the society positively or negatively?

My Answer

‘If people are good only because they fear punishment, and hope for reward, then we are a sorry lot indeed.’ ~Albert Einstein

We have learned to fly in the air like a bird and swim in the sea like a fish, but we have not yet learned the simple art of living together. ~Anonymous

This two quotes above have deep meaning and relevance.
Many people do things today not because they know it is the right thing to do but just for the fear of going to hell.

Christianity teaches about the paying of tithes. Most Christians pay tithes not because they want to use the resources to take Care of the Pastors or Priests but because they have been threatened to do so or else face the Wrath of God.

Islam is a religion of peace but many acts of terrorism has been attributed to it because most terrorists have twisted a verse or two to suit their purpose thereby, claiming that they fight for Allah when infact they do it for their selfish gain alone.

Most fights, crisis, riot and even wars come as a result of the different religious beliefs in the world. You see Christians attacking Muslims and vice versa. You hear words like “your religion is not the right religion”, “you are an unbeliever if you don’t follow the teachings of my religion”, “you will go to hell if you don’t follow my religion”.

Imagine if the reward for being good and the punishment to being evil is removed. How many people will still go church or mosque, how many people will still pay tithe or give to the needy, how many people will still be his or her brothers and sisters keeper.

My candid advice is that we should leave religions when doing things. We should do things because they are good and are for the benefit to mankind. We should not do things that are harmful to others.

Remember Jesus did not say heaven is meant for Christians or Muslims or traditional worshipers but it is meant for only those that do the Will of God. This implies that your religion does not take you to either heaven or hell but only your deeds.

Have this mindset from today. Give alms to the needy not because your pastor says so but because it will help save a life from starving.

When you have this mindset, even when your pastor doesn’t tell you, you will do it anyway because you know it is the right thing to do.

©Adesoji Michael

Well said.
Flesh and blood did not reveal this to you.

Trust religious people to attack this simply because they don't believe anyone can be good outside their own religion.

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Re: Has Religion Affected The Society Positively Or Negatively? by Jashub: 10:42am On Apr 04
I do not agree with many things in the post, but one thing you should know about Christianity is that it stands separately from other worldly theistic views, in the sense that it has a very strong moral point of views in regards to relationships with God, man and self. Now here are few points I do not agree with :


The false notion islam is peaceful
This till ridiculous idea of Islam being a religion of peace is completely off because the blatant truth is, Islam (historically), is a very violent religious movement. And except we want to be hypocrites, Islam's prophet was a soldier who fought and killed for his god (Allah). a
And he encouraged his followers to do so. Which is why Muslims are groups like Boko-haram keep doing what they do.


The Issue of Being sent to Hell

Now the threat of being sent to hell is a form of divine justice establish by God for breaking God's universal laws on morality. And excpet if you are hypocritical in your thoughts, we too have a sense moral justice in our own society. For example : if you kill someone, the penalty is the death sentence. So why is this done? Well, it serves as :
1. A deterrent to others.
2. Gives justice to family of the dead and stops the avenger from seeking justice with his own hands.
3. Helps prevents future occurrences and reduce the number of atrocities committed in society.

And lastly, God does not cast people into Hell; on the contrary, the deeds of people who do wicked things, cast them into Hell. So its a choice for you the individual
Re: Has Religion Affected The Society Positively Or Negatively? by Zenzu01(m): 10:47am On Apr 04
Myer:


Well said.
Flesh and blood did not reveal this to you.

Trust religious people to attack this simply because they don't believe anyone can be good outside their own religion.

Lol. I'm not even bothered if they attack this or not. I've passed this stage.

Let's just live right for the sake of ourselves and others.

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Re: Has Religion Affected The Society Positively Or Negatively? by budaatum: 10:54am On Apr 04
Its amusing that it is those who's education includes evolution that are most unlikely to see how religion has evolved into the education that makes them not give credit to religion.

Religion is simply education. Not only did it provide the first book for mass education, it also provided a day for people to be free from work in order to attend church to be taught.

But I guess you need to travel back in time to know any of this, especially now that religion has evolved into the numerous subjects you now learn five days a week in schools.

"The light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not".
Re: Has Religion Affected The Society Positively Or Negatively? by Zenzu01(m): 10:57am On Apr 04
Jashub:
I do not agree with many things in the post, but one thing you should know about Christianity is that it stands separately from other worldly theistic views, in the sense that it has a very strong moral point of views in regards to relationships with God, man and self. Now here are few points I do not agree with :


The false notion islam is peaceful
This till ridiculous idea of Islam being a religion of peace is completely off because the blatant truth is, Islam (historically), is a very violent religious movement. And except we want to be hypocrites, Islam's prophet was a soldier who fought and killed for his god (Allah). a
And he encouraged his followers to do so. Which is why Muslims are groups like Boko-haram keep doing what they do.


The Issue of Being sent to Hell

Now the threat of being sent to hell is a form of divine justice establish by God for breaking God's universal laws on morality. And excpet if you are hypocritical in your thoughts, we too have a sense moral justice in our own society. For example : if you kill someone, the penalty is the death sentence. So why is this done? Well, it serves as :
1. A deterrent to others.
2. Gives justice to family of the dead and stops the avenger from seeking justice with his own hands.
3. Helps prevents future occurrences and reduce the number of atrocities committed in society.

And lastly, God does not cast people into Hell; on the contrary, the deeds of people who do wicked things, cast them into Hell. So its a choice for you the individual

You just succeeded to justify Christianity and slander Islam. Yeah, there are a few folks practicing Islam that do evil things, so it is too with every other religions.

Personally, I've been helped for free by two pakistani guys who said they only did because they feel it is right to help humanity.

I can even share screenshots of our chats. So you can attack the bad eggs in all religions but not the religions.

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Re: Has Religion Affected The Society Positively Or Negatively? by Jashub: 10:58am On Apr 04
Zenzu01:


You just succeeded to justify Christianity and slander Islam. Yeah, there are a few folks practicing Islam that do evil things, so it is too with every other religions.

Personally, I've been helped for free by two pakistani guys who said they only did because they feel it is right to help humanity.

I can even share screenshots of our chats. So you can attack the bad eggs in all religions but not the religions.
The ones who helped you are not adherents ; they are liberals like you. And being a liberal means you stand for nothing. And to stand for nothing is to be a hypocrite

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Re: Has Religion Affected The Society Positively Or Negatively? by falcon01: 11:13am On Apr 04
It has affected us More Negatively than Positively..
Re: Has Religion Affected The Society Positively Or Negatively? by Zenzu01(m): 11:29am On Apr 04
falcon01:
It has affected us More Negatively than Positively..

I would have wished to disagree but that's just the truth.
Re: Has Religion Affected The Society Positively Or Negatively? by budaatum: 12:22pm On Apr 04
Jashub:
The ones who helped you are not adherents ; they are liberals like you. And being a liberal means you stand for nothing. And to stand for nothing is to be a hypocrite

No, being a liberal does not mean one stands for nothing, or is a hypocrite.

As you can see from Zenzu01 post, the Muslim Pakistanis he mentioned stand for humanity just as Christ taught Christians also must, as I contionously illustrate in the Parable of the Orangutan.

www.nairaland.com/attachments/11039027_psx20200212120340_jpegb63adb5ff044a1c031e3dde7d11e9cd7

Being a liberal means to mind the forest in ones own eyes instead of stoning others for the twig in theirs.
Re: Has Religion Affected The Society Positively Or Negatively? by budaatum: 12:30pm On Apr 04
Zenzu01:


I would have wished to disagree but that's just the truth.

I strongly disagree because it is definitely not "just the truth"!

You and falcon01 are blaming the teaching instead of blaming me for my own ignorance and stupidity and hypocrisy and inability to learn and understand the teaching!

Please reconsider apportioning blame where it rightly belongs.
Re: Has Religion Affected The Society Positively Or Negatively? by CodeTemplar: 12:50pm On Apr 04
Religions abound. Which of them?
Re: Has Religion Affected The Society Positively Or Negatively? by Jashub: 12:59pm On Apr 04
budaatum:


No, being a liberal does not mean one stands for nothing, or is a hypocrite.

As you can see from Zenzu01 post, the Muslim Pakistanis he mentioned stand for humanity just as Christ taught Christians also must, as I contionously illustrate in the Parable of the Orangutan.

www.nairaland.com/attachments/11039027_psx20200212120340_jpegb63adb5ff044a1c031e3dde7d11e9cd7

Being a liberal means to mind the forest in ones own eyes instead of stoning others for the twig in theirs.

Shallow as usual.
Re: Has Religion Affected The Society Positively Or Negatively? by budaatum: 1:08pm On Apr 04
Jashub:
[s][/s] Shallow as usual.

By our fruits are we known.
Re: Has Religion Affected The Society Positively Or Negatively? by budaatum: 1:10pm On Apr 04
CodeTemplar:
Religions abound. Which of them?

All of them. Unless you find one that teaches put your hand in fire or pluck out your neighbours eye.
Re: Has Religion Affected The Society Positively Or Negatively? by jesusjnr2020(m): 1:11pm On Apr 04
CodeTemplar:
Religions abound. Which of them?
Satan-sent. You'd surely get rewarded for the work you do for him if you don't repent.
Re: Has Religion Affected The Society Positively Or Negatively? by Jashub: 1:12pm On Apr 04
budaatum:


By our fruits are we known.
Shallowness is thy fruit. Which is all I can say for you
Re: Has Religion Affected The Society Positively Or Negatively? by BRATISLAVA: 1:17pm On Apr 04
Living faith v Pentecostals

grin

Sheathe your swords.

If they are the words of God, they will endure. And if not, they will be consumed.
Re: Has Religion Affected The Society Positively Or Negatively? by Kentucky404: 1:21pm On Apr 04
Zenzu01:
Has Religion affected the society positively or negatively?

My Answer

‘If people are good only because they fear punishment, and hope for reward, then we are a sorry lot indeed.’ ~Albert Einstein

We have learned to fly in the air like a bird and swim in the sea like a fish, but we have not yet learned the simple art of living together. ~Anonymous

This two quotes above have deep meaning and relevance.
Many people do things today not because they know it is the right thing to do but just for the fear of going to hell.

Christianity teaches about the paying of tithes. Most Christians pay tithes not because they want to use the resources to take Care of the Pastors or Priests but because they have been threatened to do so or else face the Wrath of God.

Islam is a religion of peace but many acts of terrorism has been attributed to it because most terrorists have twisted a verse or two to suit their purpose thereby, claiming that they fight for Allah when infact they do it for their selfish gain alone.

Most fights, crisis, riot and even wars come as a result of the different religious beliefs in the world. You see Christians attacking Muslims and vice versa. You hear words like “your religion is not the right religion”, “you are an unbeliever if you don’t follow the teachings of my religion”, “you will go to hell if you don’t follow my religion”.

Imagine if the reward for being good and the punishment to being evil is removed. How many people will still go church or mosque, how many people will still pay tithe or give to the needy, how many people will still be his or her brothers and sisters keeper.

My candid advice is that we should leave religions when doing things. We should do things because they are good and are for the benefit to mankind. We should not do things that are harmful to others.

Remember Jesus did not say heaven is meant for Christians or Muslims or traditional worshipers but it is meant for only those that do the Will of God. This implies that your religion does not take you to either heaven or hell but only your deeds.

Have this mindset from today. Give alms to the needy not because your pastor says so but because it will help save a life from starving.

When you have this mindset, even when your pastor doesn’t tell you, you will do it anyway because you know it is the right thing to do.

©Adesoji Michael



Perhaps Christianity!


Islam would enlighten, those who are ready to learn
Re: Has Religion Affected The Society Positively Or Negatively? by Jashub: 1:25pm On Apr 04
Kentucky404:




Perhaps Christianity!


Islam would enlighten, those who are ready to learn
Will Islam do that with C4 and dynamite? undecided
Re: Has Religion Affected The Society Positively Or Negatively? by Kentucky404: 1:31pm On Apr 04
budaatum:
Its amusing that it is those who's education includes evolution that are most unlikely to see how religion has evolved into the education that makes them not give credit to religion.

Religion is simply education. Not only did it provide the first book for mass education, it also provided a day for people to be free from work in order to attend church to be taught.

But I guess you need to travel back in time to know any of this, especially now that religion has evolved into the numerous subjects you now learn five days a week in schools.

"The light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not".


A piece for all the Christians on Nairaland
Don't be Blinded by Lies




*We live in a world where 2 + 2 = 5*

*Just as 1 + 1 +1 = 1*

*If you are confused*

*Who is god?, Jesus*

*Is Jesus the son of Mary?, Yes*

*Who created Mary?, God.*

*Who is God?, Jesus*

*Jesus is the begotten son., Yes*

*Who is his father?, God.*

*Who is God?, Jesus.*

*Jesus is a servant of God?, Yes*

*Who is God?, Jesus.*

*Jesus died on the cross?Yes*

*Who resurrected him?, God.*

*Who is God?, Jesus*

*Jesus is a messenger?, Yes*

*Who sent him?, God.*

*Who is God?, Jesus.*

*Did Jesus worship while on earth?, Yes*

*Whom did he worship?, God.*

*Who is God?, Jesus.*

*Did God have a beginning?, No*

*Then who was born on 25 DEC?, Jesus.*

*Who is God?, Jesus*

*Where's God?, In heaven*

*How many are there in heaven?, Only one God.*

*Where's Jesus?, He is sitted on the right hand of his father.*

*Who is God?, Jesus.*

*Then how many are they in heaven?, Only one God*

*Then how many seats?, One*

*Where's Jesus?, Seated next to God.*

*Then how are they seated?, On one chair*

*Its only understood by those with the holy spirit.*

*Who is God?Jesus.*

*Ha haha what a confusion.*

*So beautiful to be a Muslim.*

*Allah (SWT) have mercy on us all and grant us His straight path for us not to go astray*

*FIVE PILLARS OF ISLAM ACCORDING TO THE BIBLE:*

1. Shahada (Mark 12:29)

2. Salat (Matthew 26:39)

3. Zakah (Hebrew 10:24)

4. Fasting (Matthew 4:1-1)

5. Hajj (Psalm 84:5-6)

*ALBAYAAN MUSLIMS PREACHERS ASSOCIATION*

*THE TRUTH FROM THE BIBLE*

*ABLUTION IN THE BIBLE*
Leviticus. 19:27
Leviticus. 21:5
Jeremiah. 9:25
1 chronicles. 19:5
Exodus. 30:17
Exodus. 40:30
John. 13:4

*HOW TO DRESS IN THE BIBLE*
Exodus. 28:1

*WOMEN SHOULDN'T SPEAK IN CHURCH*
Ezekiel. 13:17
Corinthians. 14:34-38
Tito. 2:3
1 Timothy. 2:11
Revelation. 2:19
1 timothy. 2:8

*HOW TO WORSHIP IN THE BIBLE*
Genesis. 17:1
Psalm. 95: 6
Ezekiel. 43:3
Kings. 18:39
Psalm. 5:7
Numbers. 20:6
Nehemiah. 8:6
Matthew. 26:36
Matthew. 17:1
Revelation. 7:9

*IS WINE/PORK ALLOWED*
Leviticus. 11:7
Deuteronomy. 14:8
Isaiah. 65:3
Proverbs. 31:3
Isaiah. 4:11
Amos. 6:5-7
Habakkuk. 2:15
Leviticus. 10:8
Isaiah. 66:17

*PROPHECY OF MOHAMMED IN THE BIBLE*
Genesis. 49:10
Genesis. 16:7-14
Deuteronomy. 18:18
Deuteronomy. 34:10
Jeremiah. 34:18
Isaiah. 21:13
Isaiah. 19:19
Daniel. 7:13
Mathew. 21:33-43
Galatians. 4:21
John. 1:19-22
John. 14:30
John. 16:7-14
Act. 7:37
John. 14:15
Revelation. 7:9-12
Revelation. 19:10-16

*SHARIAH IN THE BIBLE*
Deuteronomy. 6:1
Deuteronomy. 13:-1-11
Deuteronomy. 22:13-22
Deuteronomy. 21:18-21
Deuteronomy. 22:25
Mathew. 15:3
Joshua. 1:18
Hebrews. 10:28
Leviticus. 20:9-16
Leviticus. 20:27

*According to the Islamic doctrine, Muslims should believe in all the prophets sent by Allah almighty among the prophet are Adam, Noah, Jacob, Moses, Jesus, Mohammed and lives (Quran 3:84)*
Re: Has Religion Affected The Society Positively Or Negatively? by budaatum: 1:38pm On Apr 04
Zenzu01:

My candid advice is that we should leave religions when doing things. We should do things because they are good and are for the benefit to mankind. We should not do things that are harmful to others

"Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?”

Jesus replied: “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’ This is the first and greatest commandment.

And the second is like it: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.' All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.”
Matthew 22:36-40


A Bedouin came to the prophet, grabbed the stirrup of his camel and said: O the messenger of God! Teach me something to go to heaven with it.

Prophet said: "As you would have people do to you, do to them; and what you dislike to be done to you, don't do to them. Now let the stirrup go!" [This maxim is enough for you; go and act in accordance with it!]"
— Kitab al-Kafi, vol. 2, p. 146


I think I should rename you Prophet Jesus Zenzu because you sure do sound like one as you may see above.

You see, many confuse religion with belief, and so they bother not to seek understanding. A person who asks and seeks and knocks as Christ thought for instance, would ask how one ought to go about loving God "with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind", and perhaps start by learning about their own heart and soul and mind to know how to properly use them to go on to answer the questions, 'what is love' and 'what is God', and how do I love my fellow human beings".

You might understand how much zazen would be involved, and how it might assist one in doing your version above. After all, Christ did teach that inasmuch as ye have done to those here whom one sees, the God in heaven that one sees not must be indeed be sufficiently pleased.

I put it to you that we fail of course, but we would fail more without the Words.
Re: Has Religion Affected The Society Positively Or Negatively? by budaatum: 1:47pm On Apr 04
Kentucky404:


*According to the Islamic doctrine, Muslims should believe in all the prophets sent by Allah almighty among the prophet are Adam, Noah, Jacob, Moses, Jesus, Mohammed and lives (Quran 3:84)*

According to buda's understanding, if you can not love your fellow human being despite the crap they may choose to believe in their heads, you have not learnt anything from "Adam, Noah, Jacob, Moses, Jesus, Mohammed and lives" etc, nor from the Quran and the Bible, and you definitely can not be worshipping the Almighty Allah God.
Re: Has Religion Affected The Society Positively Or Negatively? by Kentucky404: 2:19pm On Apr 04
budaatum:


According to buda's understanding, if you can not love your fellow human being despite the crap they may choose to believe in their heads, you have not learnt anything from "Adam, Noah, Jacob, Moses, Jesus, Mohammed and lives" etc, nor from the Quran and the Bible, and you definitely can not be worshipping the Almighty Allah God.


grin

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