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Re: Why Didn't God Kill The Devil? by Ihedinobi3: 3:01pm On Apr 22
Jayrockk:
I'm a Christian and I believe God is perfect in all ramifications, but sometimes when i start to think of the evil that has happened, and the evil happening these days I tell myself this could have been avoided if God destroyed the devil. I ask myself why God didn't kill the devil and also why was the forbidden fruit in the garden of Eden in the first place. I know the devil is the cause of evil but sometimes I blame God for what's happening and doubt His existence sometimes, but then deep down i know He is real. So religious experts in the house what's your say about this?

Hi there.

God created Satan pure knowing that he was going to rebel against Him anyway. He did that because God wanted a universe where there were creatures that consciously chose to love Him and be with Him eternally.

Satan is just the rallying point for those who don't want to love God or be with Him eternally.

The tree of the fruit of the knowledge of good and evil existed for two reasons. One was to allow Adam and Eve have an opportunity to choose to rebel against God if they preferred that to being His friends and servants in the Garden of Eden. The second was to provide the same rebels with an expanded conscience so that they could recognize evil and good outside the Garden of Eden and away from God's direct tutelage.

God is therefore not responsible for all the evil that is happening. He allows it because He loves us. He lets us choose whether we will love Him back or rebel against Him. The bad things that happen as a result of creature sin give us an opportunity to learn of God's justice and also an opportunity to make our own choices.

This is why the Bible is about faith. It teaches us to trust God beyond what we see, feel, hear, or think. It tells us to listen to Him and hear His side of things so that we can better judge for ourselves what the right choice to make with respect to Him is. It may not be easy, but it really is the only way to get through this life in one piece.

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Re: Why Didn't God Kill The Devil? by stinjoe(m): 3:02pm On Apr 22
FatherOfJesus:
Theres is no evidence for creation as well.

What we know in science are two hypotheses of Abiogenesis and panspermia and then theory of Evolution.

No evidence that anything was created. Your conscience is not evidence, it’s your opinion about things
Deep down, you and I know that He exist. His mysteries is way beyond human comprehsion. Seek to know him more.
Re: Why Didn't God Kill The Devil? by stinjoe(m): 3:05pm On Apr 22
MikeMicheal:
Hahaha! Baba don confuse.
Not only God way, na High Way.
Son of man, there's absolutely nothing to be confused about. Seek to know Him better. The Holy Spirit is your guide.
Re: Why Didn't God Kill The Devil? by FatherOfJesus: 3:05pm On Apr 22
Ihedinobi3:


Hi there.

God created Satan pure knowing that he was going to rebel against Him anyway. He did that because God wanted a universe where there were creatures that consciously chose to love Him and be with Him eternally.

Satan is just the rallying point for those who don't want to love God or be with Him eternally.

The tree of the fruit of the knowledge of good and evil existed for two reasons. One was to allow Adam and Eve have an opportunity to choose to rebel against God if they preferred that to being His friends and servants in the Garden of Eden. The second was to provide the same rebels with an expanded conscience so that they could recognize evil and good outside the Garden of Eden and away from God's direct tutelage.

God is therefore not responsible for all the evil that is happening. He allows it because He loves us. He lets us choose whether we will love Him back or rebel against Him. The bad things that happen as a result of creature sin give us an opportunity to learn of God's justice and also an opportunity to make our own choices.

This is why the Bible is about faith. It teaches us to trust God beyond what we see, feel, hear, or think. It tells us to listen to Him and hear His side of things so that we can better judge for ourselves what the right choice to make with respect to Him is. It may not be easy, but it really is the only way to get through this life in one piece.
Listen to yourself, how can you see any sense in what you just typed?

How can you serve a psychopath that created his own eternal enemy knowing fully well that he will turn bad. What kind of moronic god is that? grin
Even the stupidest person will not reason in that manner.
I guess it’s part of his divine plan that you are suffering in Nigeria and you have to get frustrated trying to defend his inefficiencies? grin

You are the bigger psychopath here because you can’t even prove his existence cheesy

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Re: Why Didn't God Kill The Devil? by FatherOfJesus: 3:06pm On Apr 22
stinjoe:
Deep down, you and I know that He exist. His mysteries is way beyond human comprehsion. Seek to know him more.
i don’t know he exist, as matter of fact I think it’s ridiculous to even think such a being exist.

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Re: Why Didn't God Kill The Devil? by stinjoe(m): 3:13pm On Apr 22
FatherOfJesus:
i don’t know he exist, as matter of fact I think it’s ridiculous to even think such a being exist.
Mark my words. A time will certainly come and you will realize His true existence.
Re: Why Didn't God Kill The Devil? by FatherOfJesus: 3:20pm On Apr 22
stinjoe:
Mark my words. A time will certainly come and you will realize His true existence.
people have been saying that in the past 2000years and now atheism is growing

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Re: Why Didn't God Kill The Devil? by 1Sharon(f): 3:22pm On Apr 22
stinjoe:
When God created Lucifer, He created an eternal being. God did not create him to die or cease to exist, but to live forever. Ezekiel 28 tells how Lucifer was created perfect and then iniquity was found in him (see also Isaiah 14:12-15).

So God is UNABLE to kill him? Okay.

By the way, Satan and Lucifer aren't the same thing.

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Re: Why Didn't God Kill The Devil? by 1Sharon(f): 3:30pm On Apr 22
stinjoe:
May God forgive you. Pray for the holy Spirit so as to aid you to look beyond what you see and easy understanding of God's words. Remember to give your life to Christ.

You don't know God's word. You are delusional.

Atheists know the Bible far more than Christians

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Re: Why Didn't God Kill The Devil? by 1Sharon(f): 3:49pm On Apr 22
Ihedinobi3:


Hi there.

God created Satan pure knowing that he was going to rebel against Him anyway. He did that because God wanted a universe where there were creatures that consciously chose to love Him and be with Him eternally.

Satan is just the rallying point for those who don't want to love God or be with Him eternally.

The tree of the fruit of the knowledge of good and evil existed for two reasons. One was to allow Adam and Eve have an opportunity to choose to rebel against God if they preferred that to being His friends and servants in the Garden of Eden. The second was to provide the same rebels with an expanded conscience so that they could recognize evil and good outside the Garden of Eden and away from God's direct tutelage.

God is therefore not responsible for all the evil that is happening. He allows it because He loves us. He lets us choose whether we will love Him back or rebel against Him. The bad things that happen as a result of creature sin give us an opportunity to learn of God's justice and also an opportunity to make our own choices.

This is why the Bible is about faith. It teaches us to trust God beyond what we see, feel, hear, or think. It tells us to listen to Him and hear His side of things so that we can better judge for ourselves what the right choice to make with respect to Him is. It may not be easy, but it really is the only way to get through this life in one piece.


Isaiah 45:7
I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things.

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Re: Why Didn't God Kill The Devil? by Ihedinobi3: 3:58pm On Apr 22
1Sharon:



Isaiah 45:7
I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things.

Hello.

It probably wasn't you with whom I discussed this, but it feels vaguely like it was.

Does the word, evil, always mean moral evil or can it also mean unpleasantness or calamity?
Re: Why Didn't God Kill The Devil? by 1Sharon(f): 4:09pm On Apr 22
Ihedinobi3:


Hello.

It probably wasn't you with whom I discussed this, but it feels vaguely like it was.

Does the word, evil, always mean moral evil or can it also mean unpleasantness or calamity?

Now all of a sudden the word evil means something else? grin

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Re: Why Didn't God Kill The Devil? by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:24pm On Apr 22
I am Maximus one of JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES, would you like me to participate in the ongoing discussion? smiley


Jayrockk:
I'm a Christian and I believe God is perfect in all ramifications, but sometimes when i start to think of the evil that has happened, and the evil happening these days I tell myself this could have been avoided if God destroyed the devil. I ask myself why God didn't kill the devil and also why was the forbidden fruit in the garden of Eden in the first place. I know the devil is the cause of evil but sometimes I blame God for what's happening and doubt His existence sometimes, but then deep down i know He is real. So religious experts in the house what's your say about this?
Re: Why Didn't God Kill The Devil? by Ihedinobi3: 4:41pm On Apr 22
1Sharon:


Now all of a sudden the word evil means something else? grin

Sigh.

7 The One forming light and creating darkness,
Causing well-being and creating calamity;
I am the LORD who does all these.
Isaiah 45:7 (NASB)

7 I form light and create darkness;
I make well-being and create calamity;
I am the LORD, who does all these things.
Isaiah 45:7 (ESV)

7 I form the light and create darkness,
I bring prosperity and create disaster;
I, the LORD, do all these things.
Isaiah 45:7 (NIV)

7 I form the light and create darkness,
I make peace and create calamity;
I, the LORD, do all these things.’
Isaiah 45:7 (NKJV)

What I don't get is why you atheists like to fancy yourselves experts on biblical theology. I can't even understand what kind of reasoning leads to something like that. You almost certainly don't know Hebrew, and you certainly appear unaware of other translations that exist of this verse.

God is not responsible for the moral evil of His creatures. That verse is most certainly not teaching that He is. Each angel or human is responsible for his or her own choices.

What God is responsible for is His Judgment brought upon such evil. When God floods a whole universe, that is His doing. And He does it in order to punish the rebellion of a third of His angels. When He destroys a confederation of cities with burning sulfur falling from the sky, He does it to punish their homosexuality and aggression against believers among them. When He will destroy so many human beings with a variety of plagues to the point that human beings are scarcer than extremely precious metals, He will be doing it to punish the wickedness of a world under the rule of the Antichrist.

It is God Who creates all that "evil." Even so, it is the sins of His creatures that occasion such things, so it is still our responsibility that such things happen at all.

Nonetheless, believe whatever you want. It really isn't my business what you believe.
Re: Why Didn't God Kill The Devil? by Jayrockk: 5:02pm On Apr 22
MaxInDHouse:
I am Maximus one of JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES, would you like me to participate in the ongoing discussion? smiley


feel free
Re: Why Didn't God Kill The Devil? by 1Sharon(f): 5:36pm On Apr 22
Ihedinobi3:


Sigh.

7 The One forming light and creating darkness,
Causing well-being and creating calamity;
I am the LORD who does all these.
Isaiah 45:7 (NASB)

7 I form light and create darkness;
I make well-being and create calamity;
I am the LORD, who does all these things.
Isaiah 45:7 (ESV)

7 I form the light and create darkness,
I bring prosperity and create disaster;
I, the LORD, do all these things.
Isaiah 45:7 (NIV)

7 I form the light and create darkness,
I make peace and create calamity;
I, the LORD, do all these things.’
Isaiah 45:7 (NKJV)

What I don't get is why you atheists like to fancy yourselves experts on biblical theology. I can't even understand what kind of reasoning leads to something like that. You almost certainly don't know Hebrew, and you certainly appear unaware of other translations that exist of this verse.

God is not responsible for the moral evil of His creatures. That verse is most certainly not teaching that He is. Each angel or human is responsible for his or her own choices.

What God is responsible for is His Judgment brought upon such evil. When God floods a whole universe, that is His doing. And He does it in order to punish the rebellion of a third of His angels. When He destroys a confederation of cities with burning sulfur falling from the sky, He does it to punish their homosexuality and aggression against believers among them. When He will destroy so many human beings with a variety of plagues to the point that human beings are scarcer than extremely precious metals, He will be doing it to punish the wickedness of a world under the rule of the Antichrist.

It is God Who creates all that "evil." Even so, it is the sins of His creatures that occasion such things, so it is still our responsibility that such things happen at all.

Nonetheless, believe whatever you want. It really isn't my business what you believe.


You're a disingenuous prick I swear.

Why does your Bible translation trump mine?? because it suits your argument?

Now all of a sudden all these Bible versions that came AFTER KJV are now more valid?



Even if evil means "darkness", you think that is still a good look for a God you claim only loves and is merciful?

Is Darkness any better?

Do YOU know Hebrew??

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Re: Why Didn't God Kill The Devil? by Ihedinobi3: 5:48pm On Apr 22
1Sharon:



You're a disingenuous prick I swear.

Why does your Bible translation trump mine?? because it suits your argument?

Now all of a sudden all these Bible versions that came AFTER KJV are now more valid?



Even if evil means "darkness", you think that is still a good look for a God you claim only loves and is merciful?

Is Darkness any better?

Do YOU know Hebrew??

Exactly what called for the insult right now? Is it a crime against you to disagree with you?

My Bible translation? I just gave you a bunch of other translations to show you that that is not the only way to translate the Hebrew there? I didn't offer any translation of my own. I haven't completed my training in biblical Hebrew or else I might have provided my own translation although I'm pretty sure it would not make you any happier.

As for translations coming after the KJV, I don't understand what you are quarreling about here. Are translations better because they came farther back in time or because they are simply made using better material, more complete knowledge, and better techniques? If it is a matter of time, then we should probably look for older translations than the KJV to get more accurate translations. But it is also interesting that while it seems to be a traditional atheistic position to reject the Bible because it is so old, you are preferring the KJV specifically because it is older. That doesn't seem to fit.

I'm not sure what "darkness" has to do with anything here. I told you that the word "evil" actually has more than one meaning, and I mentioned "calamity" in that same context. I didn't say anything about darkness. Three out of the four translations I gave you offer the word "calamity" too. One uses "disaster". None of them replaces "evil" with darkness.

I have never claimed anywhere that God only loves and is only ever merciful. You must mean somebody else. The God I worship, the One that the Bible speaks of is both merciful and just. He punishes moral evil and He forgives sinners. He doesn't do one and not the other, He does both. That is my discussion on this thread after all.

As for knowing Hebrew, I am studying it. It is part of my training in pastor-teaching.
Re: Why Didn't God Kill The Devil? by livingchrist: 5:54pm On Apr 22
1Sharon:



You're a disingenuous prick I swear.

Why does your Bible translation trump mine?? because it suits your argument?

Now all of a sudden all these Bible versions that came AFTER KJV are now more valid?



Even if evil means "darkness", you think that is still a good look for a God you claim only loves and is merciful?

Is Darkness any better?

Do YOU know Hebrew??
Hello, have you tried to see the use of evil in other verses of the bible. It does not always mean moral wrong, it sometimes mean calamity or unpleasant situation for example in these two verses below, evil meant calamity, or undesirable situation.

Genesis 44:34
For how shall I go up to my father, and the lad be not with me? lest peradventure I see the evil that shall come on my father.

Judges 20:41
And when the men of Israel turned again, the men of Benjamin were amazed: for they saw that evil was come upon them.

BTW this is KJV
Re: Why Didn't God Kill The Devil? by 1Sharon(f): 6:00pm On Apr 22
livingchrist:

Hello, have you tried to see the use of evil in other verses of the bible. It does not always mean moral wrong, it sometimes mean calamity or unpleasant situation for example in these two verses below, evil meant calamity, or undesirable situation.

Genesis 44:34
For how shall I go up to my father, and the lad be not with me? lest peradventure I see the evil that shall come on my father.

Judges 20:41
And when the men of Israel turned again, the men of Benjamin were amazed: for they saw that evil was come upon them.

BTW this is KJV

And is calamity or unpleasant situation any better?

How does this help your God's case?

The point is, God is responsible for good and bad and not solely the devil is responsible for bad.
God said so himself.

Christians love to dress God up so he appeals to a wider audience but the God of the Bible is nothing Christians say he is.

It's all marketing, religion is a PRODUCT.

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Re: Why Didn't God Kill The Devil? by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:15pm On Apr 22
He is not a bully or powerdrunk dictator, He wants everyone around Him to be happy because He is always happy! 1Timothy 1:11
And He always cherish the relationship he had with His first friends much more than anyone He knew later, so the relationship He had with all His spirit sons (angels) meant much more to him than the relationship He had with humans. These are intelligent creatures He live with in heaven who knew Him face to face unlike humans who only perceive His mightiness through books, dreams, visions and revelations.
The angel who turned out to become Satan and Devil was one of God's precious spirit sons {Job 1:6} even Jesus who is the firstborn among all the angels had no authority to destroy any of his brothers despite the fact that he is the one God used to create them! Colossians 1:15-16 compare to Jude 9
Satan challenged God's authority to rule humans, this means that this spirit son of God is not OK with the way God exercises authority over all His spirit sons but he can't throw the challenge in the midst of angels who are perfect creatures that are like his mates, the only place he could throw the challenge is on earth where lesser intelligent creatures (humans) live. That's why Satan came to deceive the last intelligent creature (Eve) {1Timothy 2:14} and through Eve Adam also fell for Satan's bait.
So the matter on ground requires intelligence not just drastic actions.
If God should destroy Satan immediately, how will God prove that His right to rule mankind is just and not mere dictatorship?
If God didn't allow Satan and mankind see the end result of rebellion how will His sovereignty be justified?
So time is needed. Adam and Eve will die due to their rebellious act but Satan and all the angels in heaven must witness the end result of rebellion in the midst of mankind, that's why humans have been suffering right from the beginning until now! Deuteronomy 32:5
God has set a time when He will resolve the issue, but before then a large number of people from all races must serve as evidence that if we are all obedient to God 90% of mankind's problems will not be.
That's why God sent one of His spirit sons to come and live in our midst to teach us how we can achieve PEACE! Isaiah 2:2-4 compare to Isaiah 9:6
Do you know that there is a group of people from all races on this planet that vowed never to raise weapons against their fellowman? They have settled within their gathering all racial disputes causing wars among all other people, and formed a global family of peace loving worshipers! Micah 4:1-3
Please ask yourself: if everyone on this planet belong to this group will there be wars, poverty, crime, prejudice or any other issue causing hatred and suffering as we're having today?

Well that's why God said all those who failed to live their lives in harmony with the standard that led to the LOVE, JOY and PEACE the world can SEE in the midst of true Christians (Jehovah's Witnesses) {Matthew 5:14} will be exterminated when the angels of death walk this planet! Luke 19:27 compare to Exodus 12:13



Jayrockk:

feel free
Re: Why Didn't God Kill The Devil? by 1Sharon(f): 6:20pm On Apr 22
Ihedinobi3:


Exactly what called for the insult right now? Is it a crime against you to disagree with you?

My Bible translation? I just gave you a bunch of other translations to show you that that is not the only way to translate the Hebrew there? I didn't offer any translation of my own. I haven't completed my training in biblical Hebrew or else I might have provided my own translation although I'm pretty sure it would not make you any happier.

As for translations coming after the KJV, I don't understand what you are quarreling about here. Are translations better because they came farther back in time or because they are simply made using better material, more complete knowledge, and better techniques? If it is a matter of time, then we should probably look for older translations than the KJV to get more accurate translations. But it is also interesting that while it seems to be a traditional atheistic position to reject the Bible because it is so old, you are preferring the KJV specifically because it is older. That doesn't seem to fit.

I'm not sure what "darkness" has to do with anything here. I told you that the word "evil" actually has more than one meaning, and I mentioned "calamity" in that same context. I didn't say anything about darkness. Three out of the four translations I gave you offer the word "calamity" too. One uses "disaster". None of them replaces "evil" with darkness.

I have never claimed anywhere that God only loves and is only ever merciful. You must mean somebody else. The God I worship, the One that the Bible speaks of is both merciful and just. He punishes moral evil and He forgives sinners. He doesn't do one and not the other, He does both. That is my discussion on this thread after all.

As for knowing Hebrew, I am studying it. It is part of my training in pastor-teaching.

You were being disingenuous.

Why did you post those translations, if not to trump mine?

I don't prefer anything, that KJV version was chosen randomly, it was the 1st on google search.

Is calamity, disaster or whatever word you prefer now any better?


Since you aren't fluent in Hebrew yourself, why did you say you're certain I don't understand Hebrew? As if you understand any better than me? Hypocrite.

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Re: Why Didn't God Kill The Devil? by Ihedinobi3: 6:34pm On Apr 22
1Sharon:


You were being disingenuous.

Why did you post those translations, if not to trump mine?

I don't prefer anything, that KJV version was chosen randomly, it was the 1st on google search.

Is calamity, disaster or whatever word you prefer now any better?


Since you aren't fluent in Hebrew yourself, why did you say you're certain I don't understand Hebrew? As if you understand any better than me? Hypocrite.

Well, you could have said that without also calling me a name. Disingenuousness is an accusation. Prick isn't.

I stated my reason in my post. Those translations don't trump the KJV. They just used other words more relevant to our own time. The KJV was made in the 17th century. The English language has changed a bit now and some words are not always used in the same sense as before. That was why I pointed out to you that "evil" has more than one meaning. Even today it does, but in modern usage, it is more rarely used as broadly as it used to be.

In other words, I believe the KJV rendition as much as I believe the others. You just didn't understand it as you should have.

Funny thing about that is that you just claimed on this same thread that atheists know the Bible much better than Christians do. I didn't use Google to find those translations. I had them on my Bible app already and I already knew what that verse meant. A little respect for Christians in debate can save you a lot of embarrassment.

I'm not sure what the issue is here. You countered my argument with that verse and I was demonstrating to you that my argument accommodated it and you had misunderstood the verse. I'm not sure what the whole "better" business is. God causes calamity or evil or disaster in response to creature moral evil. I see nothing wrong with that. If God isn't just, the universe would be chaotic.

I pointed out facility in Hebrew as a way to say that you could have been just a bit more humble in your attitude to Bible issues. I'm not sure what the hypocrisy is. I use multiple translations and I rely on a professor of classics for help with original biblical languages in order to make sure that I get what the Bible is saying. You yourself clearly don't respect the Bible at all. So, what hypocrisy are you talking about?
Re: Why Didn't God Kill The Devil? by BetterChurch: 6:56pm On Apr 22
Jayrockk:
I'm a Christian and I believe God is perfect in all ramifications, but sometimes when i start to think of the evil that has happened, and the evil happening these days I tell myself this could have been avoided if God destroyed the devil. I ask myself why God didn't kill the devil and also why was the forbidden fruit in the garden of Eden in the first place. I know the devil is the cause of evil but sometimes I blame God for what's happening and doubt His existence sometimes, but then deep down i know He is real. So religious experts in the house what's your say about this?

Good thinking!
God known as the Sugmad created all gods (the devil inclusive) to form the Spiritual hierarchy for a purpose. To train each Soul to eventually become a mature spiritual being useful to all Life

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Re: Why Didn't God Kill The Devil? by 1Sharon(f): 7:12pm On Apr 22
Ihedinobi3:


Well, you could have said that without also calling me a name. Disingenuousness is an accusation. Prick isn't.

I stated my reason in my post. Those translations don't trump the KJV. They just used other words more relevant to our own time. The KJV was made in the 17th century. The English language has changed a bit now and some words are not always used in the same sense as before. That was why I pointed out to you that "evil" has more than one meaning. Even today it does, but in modern usage, it is more rarely used as broadly as it used to be.

In other words, I believe the KJV rendition as much as I believe the others. You just didn't understand it as you should have.

Funny thing about that is that you just claimed on this same thread that atheists know the Bible much better than Christians do. I didn't use Google to find those translations. I had them on my Bible app already and I already knew what that verse meant. A little respect for Christians in debate can save you a lot of embarrassment.

I'm not sure what the issue is here. You countered my argument with that verse and I was demonstrating to you that my argument accommodated it and you had misunderstood the verse. I'm not sure what the whole "better" business is. God causes calamity or evil or disaster in response to creature moral evil. I see nothing wrong with that. If God isn't just, the universe would be chaotic.

I pointed out facility in Hebrew as a way to say that you could have been just a bit more humble in your attitude to Bible issues. I'm not sure what the hypocrisy is. I use multiple translations and I rely on a professor of classics for help with original biblical languages in order to make sure that I get what the Bible is saying. You yourself clearly don't respect the Bible at all. So, what hypocrisy are you talking about?


So the word evil isn't relevant to our time? grin

Whatever other meaning there is of evil, it is still negative.

Whether evil, "calamity", "disaster" all are still negative terms.

The point is God is responsible for good as well as bad and a Satan isn't just a force for negativity.

God also said himself that he does those things.

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Re: Why Didn't God Kill The Devil? by livingchrist: 8:03pm On Apr 22
1Sharon:


And is calamity or unpleasant situation any better?

How does this help your God's case?

The point is, God is responsible for good and bad and not solely the devil is responsible for bad.
God said so himself.

Christians love to dress God up so he appeals to a wider audience but the God of the Bible is nothing Christians say he is.

It's all marketing, religion is a PRODUCT.
God loves you sharon, your name is even from the bible.

Song of Solomon 2:1
I am the rose of Sharon, and the lily of the valleys.



God create evil and good does not mean he caused it.
He created both evil (calamity) and good, as a reward to choices.
When we make bad choices we receive evil from the Lord and when we make right choices we recieve good from the Lord in both cases the evil and good is from the Lord.
Re: Why Didn't God Kill The Devil? by Ihedinobi3: 8:31pm On Apr 22
1Sharon:



So the word evil isn't relevant to our time? grin

Whatever other meaning there is of evil, it is still negative.

Whether evil, "calamity", "disaster" all are still negative terms.

The point is God is responsible for good as well as bad and a Satan isn't just a force for negativity.

God also said himself that he does those things.

Well, your point is demonstrably false since "evil" here is not "bad," it is only disasters or calamities or judgments that God brings about as a response to sin. When people sin, God punishes them. Those punishments are disasters or calamities or evils for those upon whom they come.

I'm not sure what we are debating for. I made a response to a thread to explain to a fellow Christian something that the Bible teaches. What exactly is your interest in it? Do you want me to join you in hating God? That is unlikely to happen. I know that God punishes sin. I find that comforting, not revolting. Do you want to join us in our faith? That seems very unlikely indeed given your words and actions here. So, what exactly do you want from me, ma'am?
Re: Why Didn't God Kill The Devil? by FatherOfJesus: 8:40pm On Apr 22
Ihedinobi3:


Well, your point is demonstrably false since "evil" here is not "bad," it is only disasters or calamities or judgments that God brings about as a response to sin. When people sin, God punishes them. Those punishments are disasters or calamities or evils for those upon whom they come.

I'm not sure what we are debating for. I made a response to a thread to explain to a fellow Christian something that the Bible teaches. What exactly is your interest in it? Do you want me to join you in hating God? That is unlikely to happen. I know that God punishes sin. I find that comforting, not revolting. Do you want to join us in our faith? That seems very unlikely indeed given your words and actions here. So, what exactly do you want from me, ma'am?
trash as usual. Sounding stupid trying to defend his imaginary friend.

Mumu trying to redefine the word “Evil” to suit his argument and then try to justify the deeds of his imaginary friend.

You are a piece shit with licking neurons. You think you are talking to your fellow idiots in your church?

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Re: Why Didn't God Kill The Devil? by 1Sharon(f): 8:44pm On Apr 22
FatherOfJesus:
[s][/s]trash as usual. Sounding stupid trying to defend his imaginary friend.

Mumu trying to redefine the word “Evil” to suit his argument and then try to justify the deeds of his imaginary friend.

You are a piece shit with licking neurons. You think you are talking to your fellow idiots in your church?

Chaii..tone it down bro
Re: Why Didn't God Kill The Devil? by 1Sharon(f): 9:21pm On Apr 22
Ihedinobi3:


Well, your point is demonstrably false since "evil" here is not "bad," it is only disasters or calamities or judgments that God brings about as a response to sin When people sin, God punishes them. Those punishments are disasters or calamities or evils for those upon whom they come.

I'm not sure what we are debating for. I made a response to a thread to explain to a fellow Christian something that the Bible teaches. What exactly is your interest in it? Do you want me to join you in hating God? That is unlikely to happen. I know that God punishes sin. I find that comforting, not revolting. Do you want to join us in our faith? That seems very unlikely indeed given your words and actions here. So, what exactly do you want from me, ma'am?

What was the sin of the babies that he ordered to be killed?

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Re: Why Didn't God Kill The Devil? by sonmvayina(m): 9:33pm On Apr 22
The devil is a christian creation. Just like their jesus..

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Re: Why Didn't God Kill The Devil? by 1Sharon(f): 10:09pm On Apr 22
livingchrist:

God loves you sharon, your name is even from the bible.

Song of Solomon 2:1
I am the rose of Sharon, and the lily of the valleys.



God create evil and good does not mean he caused it.
He created both evil (calamity) and good, as a reward to choices.
When we make bad choices we receive evil from the Lord and when we make right choices we recieve good from the Lord in both cases the evil and good is from the Lord.

What was the sin of the babies that he ordered to be killed?

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Re: Why Didn't God Kill The Devil? by livingchrist: 10:35pm On Apr 22
1Sharon:


What was the sin of the babies that he ordered to be killed?
sometimes in the bible God order the cutting off, a nation and other times he does not.
When a nation is totally wiped off, it is because they do not just commit sin but the whole nation has being contaminated totally by that sin, that only a total destruction will bring a stop to it.
God destroyed the whole noah's days including children and animals, because in the bible sin spreads and contaminates all that it comes into contact with.

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