P1PrinceKT: So now every thing about Islam is Extremism ?, so f*ck you f*ck your mothers, infidels.
Islamic religion is a religion of extremists, Mohammed was an extremist, so was/is Allah..... Ever wonder why terrorists chant Allahu akbar before gruesomely taking the life of a fellow human?
naptu2: Much ado about handshakes (this is another old post that has been on my mind for years).
My British cousins were recently arguing over the question of who Boris Johnson shook hands with and who he didn’t shake hands with and that reminded me of an old post that I wanted to make but couldn’t because of lack of time.
President Buhari swore in new ministers a few months after he was inaugurated and some people noticed that he did not shake hands with some of the female ministers and they decided that he did not shake the female ministers’ hands because he was a religious extremist. They held this up as evidence that Buhari was going to “Islamise Nigeria” and declare Sharia law across the country.
I knew that their position was total nonsense because I knew that Buhari had shaken hands with women in the past, but more importantly, I knew why he didn’t shake hands with the female ministers (I’ve been there before).
I’m shocked that nobody has stated the real reason that he did not shake hands with the female ministers.
My experience.
A lot of people in positions of authority came to my house when I was a kid and I shook hands with all of them. Of course I also bowed to them, but I shook hands with all of them. I also shook hands with the elderly people that came to my house, including my grandmother.
However, there were certain encounters that stuck in my mind. I remember a time that a new official was appointed to a certain position. My neighbour’s family was very influential in the institution that the official had just been appointed to head and so he paid a courtesy visit to their house and I was in their house on that day. They introduced me to him as **** son. He looked happy to see me, but something happened that stuck in my mind. I extended my hand for a handshake and there was a momentary look of surprise on his face. It lasted for less than half a second, but I noticed it. He said, “You want to shake the ****” (he mentioned his new title) and then he shook my hand.
There was another encounter that I remember. It was kind of a family event. I got to a certain house and the woman of the house was greeting everybody at the door. I bowed and shook hands with her as I greeted her. I could see a look of absolute shock on her face as I shook hands with her. Much later, my sister whispered to me, “Did you see how shocked she looked when you shook hands with her”?
You see, in Yoruba culture, it is quite unusual for a much younger person to shake hands with a much older person. The younger person is expected to prostrate, stoop, bow, kneel or curtsey. The younger person will only shake the older person’s hand if the older person extends his hand for a handshake.
Similarly, it is unusual for a person in a much lower position in an organisation to shake hands with someone in a much higher positions/someone in a position of authority except if the person in a higher position extends his hand for a handshake.
Many Muslim women do not shake hands with men that are not related to them. This can be awkward for a man who extends his hand to shake a woman. Therefore, many men do not extend their hands for a handshake except the woman extends her hand first.
Think about it the way that you would think about a hug. Would you hug a woman that you’ve just met for the first time? Would you hug a woman that you’ve just met for the first time if she extends her hands for a hug? You would probably respect the woman’s space and only hug her if she extends her hands for a hug, right?
Read this https://medium.com/@hana.jafar09/why-you-should-ask-before-hugging-someone-7825f503ac06
Obasanjo
I was shocked when there was a furore about whether President Buhari shook hands with women, because President Olusegun Obasanjo had observed this practice in a very extreme manner and yet nobody complained.
I noticed that President Olusegun Obasanjo never shook hands with women who wore hijabs, even when the women extended their hands for a handshake. I noticed this for the first time during a national honours award ceremony. An honouree extended her hand for a handshake, but President Obasanjo clasped both of his hands together in front of his chest, instead of shaking hands with her. I later noticed that he did this to any woman that either wore a hijab or was from the far north, even if the woman was Christian and even if the woman extended her hand for a handshake. Yet nobody complained.
Buhari New ministers were inaugurated in 2015 and an incident during the inauguration ceremony led to the ridiculous claim that President Buhari does not shake hands with women.
The protocol was that, after being sworn in, the minister would sign the register and then shake hands with President Buhari while smiling for the camera. It was Kemi Adeosun’s turn to shake hands with Buhari. Being a Yoruba woman, she waited for President Buhari, who is older and in a higher position of authority, to extend his hand for a handshake. President Buhari, being a northern muslim, waited for Kemi Adeosun, who is a woman, to extend her hand for a handshake. Therefore, because neither of them extended their hand first, there was no handshake.
People picked up on this and said that President Buhari does not shake hands with women and then it became a self-fulfilling prophesy. Other women, because they had heard that Buhari did not shake hands with women, did not extend their hands for a handshake when they met him and therefore, the rumours that Buhari did not shake hands with women continued.
Some people said that "Buhari's refusal to shake hands with women was proof that he was a religious extremist, a bigot and that he wanted to Islamise Nigeria".
I knew that this was just complete nonsense. How did I know? The musician, Onyeka Onwenu was a supporter of President Goodluck Jonathan and he appointed her to head an agency (I’ve forgotten the name of the agency). The members of the board of the agency went to meet and congratulate President Buhari soon after he was sworn in. This was before ministers were inaugurated. President Buhari shook hands with Onyeka Onwenu at that event.
Besides, I had seen Buhari shake hands with women when he was a military head of state in the mid-1980s.
President Buhari arrived the International Conference Centre and there was a line of people that were waiting to receive him. He shook hands with the people on the line, but Mrs Tinubu did not extend her hand for a handshake. Instead she curtsied and said, "Good morning sir". President Buhari looked at her and said, "Madam ****" (the second word was inaudible) and she smiled. He then asked, "How are you?" and she replied, "Very well sir".
Buhari shakes the hand of the first man in the line without saying anything to him.
Remi Tinubu: “Good morning sir” (and she curtsies) Buhari: “Madam senator. How are you?”
Remi Tinubu: “Very well sir” (and she curtsies again)
Pantami points to the next man in the line and says: “This is our chairman Senate committee on . . .”
Pantami’s voice is drowned out by the voices of photographers and security men who are jostling for space: “Kai! This man pushed me on you, what is it?”
naptu2: Aha! This is a video that illustrates what I wrote last year. President Olusegun Obasanjo almost never shakes hands with a northern woman. That was his exact attitude when he was president. I noticed it, but nobody complained about it.
So why were so many people complaining about President Buhari even though Buhari was not half as fanatical about it as Obasanjo. President Buhari shook hands with northern women, but Obasanjo never did it unless (as is the case in this video) he is forced to do it.
President Obasanjo visited Kaduna in 2019 and he did not shake hands with the deputy governor until he was told to do so.
(I'm going to quote my old post about this subject).
What's d fuse here... He's a Muslim and their tradition makes it wrong for them to shake women... Abeg there are more things disturbing this nation than this
biafrasun: So it's only during Ramadan that you don't do evil but after Ramadan you can go ahead and become the devil himself. The hypocrisy in this religion is crying to heaven and it's only fools that doesn't see it.
Mind you! All religious people are hypocrites, not just Muslims.
i see nothing special about the video, the poster should know that this is fasting period
and it is prohibited to shake a woman, most especially whom is not your wife..... so even the lady in question is married
to a muslim so she understand, the fact that pantami is blocking Baba is just to protect be sure that baba has not forgotten the
rule, since they all knew the man is not well or would i say he is not normal and could do and undo in public..... im not a fan of buhari but that the
simple truth.
I reckon this is the biggest problem with Islam and its practitioners....esp' those in the core north who want to be 'more Catholic than the Pope'!
You lay more emphasis on all these rules and harams......outward displays of 'holiness' and 'piety' while leaving your inner heart and personal relationship with God bereft of any meaning! This is why some of you can go out and commit the kind of depravity and evil we see happening today yet still think you're good with God and doing his bidding!
this doesn't transcribe to terrorism.
it's un Islamic to shake the hand of a female gender that is not your wife.
it's not African either.
the fact that he did it in other clips doesn't make it right either.
I reckon this is the biggest problem with Islam and its practitioners....esp' those in the core north who want to be 'more Catholic than the Pope'!
You lay more emphasis on all this outward displays of 'holiness' and 'piety' while leaving your inner heart and personal relationship with God bereft of any meaning! This is why some of you can go out and commit the kind of depravity and evil we see happening today yet still think you're good with God and doing his bidding!
people can be wicked at heart and innocent on the outside yes but still nothing wrong in doing what is right according to your religion. so what's wrong with the video once again?
Lanretoye: your monika self...who called him a terrorist,thats a sign of extremism.did you watch the end of the clip when he shook hand with the queen?
Men dont shake hands with women in islam generally, nothing new.