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Re: Woman Collapses, Dies In Christ Apostolic Church Lagos, After 10-Day Fast by Kobojunkie: 3:05pm On May 02, 2021 |
Emusan:1. Actually, God condemned their starving of their bodies. This wasn't simply a condemning of attitudes but a pointing out of what is wrong of their way and what He, God will instead bless. 2. The meaning of "fasting" is given to you there in Isaiah 58 beginning from verse 6 through 14. God redefines the term and tells you exactly what it should mean to you instead. 3. You are not called to doing as the prophets did but as God commands. |
Re: Woman Collapses, Dies In Christ Apostolic Church Lagos, After 10-Day Fast by Wickedfacts: 11:47pm On May 02, 2021 |
FirmTR: Look at yourself in your DP, look at your environment like where a pig defecates. Better go and look for how to live a reasonable life and stop defending jobless charlatans. |
Re: Woman Collapses, Dies In Christ Apostolic Church Lagos, After 10-Day Fast by FatherOfJesus: 1:13am On May 03, 2021 |
jesusjnr1:You are a fool |
Re: Woman Collapses, Dies In Christ Apostolic Church Lagos, After 10-Day Fast by FatherOfJesus: 1:14am On May 03, 2021 |
Righteousness2:simpleton |
Re: Woman Collapses, Dies In Christ Apostolic Church Lagos, After 10-Day Fast by jesusjnr1: 1:53am On May 03, 2021 |
Re: Woman Collapses, Dies In Christ Apostolic Church Lagos, After 10-Day Fast by FatherOfJesus: 1:55am On May 03, 2021 |
jesusjnr1:Lol, I can never be pained while seeing people make mockery of themselves. You all give intelligent people a comic relief |
Re: Woman Collapses, Dies In Christ Apostolic Church Lagos, After 10-Day Fast by jesusjnr1: 2:11am On May 03, 2021 |
FatherOfJesus:Lol! The dead laughing at the living. Keep laughing at your dead self lol! |
Re: Woman Collapses, Dies In Christ Apostolic Church Lagos, After 10-Day Fast by FatherOfJesus: 2:13am On May 03, 2021 |
jesusjnr1:Living people do not think Virgins give birth without egg/sperm fertilization. Only dead people will believe that. When I say dead, I mean living but with dead brain cells |
Re: Woman Collapses, Dies In Christ Apostolic Church Lagos, After 10-Day Fast by jesusjnr1: 2:16am On May 03, 2021 |
FatherOfJesus:This is what happens when the dead think they are alive, and the living were the dead ones. That's the worst form of ignorance. Keep languishing in it though. |
Re: Woman Collapses, Dies In Christ Apostolic Church Lagos, After 10-Day Fast by FatherOfJesus: 2:30am On May 03, 2021 |
jesusjnr1:if marry had just told Joseph that he fuccked one of the 3 wise men that visited during the birth of Jesus, maybe we wouldn’t have idiots like you. She went ahead to create a religion because she wanted to cover her infidelity. Lol |
Re: Woman Collapses, Dies In Christ Apostolic Church Lagos, After 10-Day Fast by jesusjnr1: 6:27am On May 03, 2021 |
FatherOfJesus:Out of the abundance of filth in a dead man's heart, the mouth speaks. So keep giving what you have, for nothing good and clean is expected from the dead. |
Re: Woman Collapses, Dies In Christ Apostolic Church Lagos, After 10-Day Fast by FirmTR(m): 7:17am On May 03, 2021 |
Wickedfacts: I have no time for foolish people.. Have a nice day.. |
Re: Woman Collapses, Dies In Christ Apostolic Church Lagos, After 10-Day Fast by SaintAlbert53: 7:43am On May 03, 2021 |
Kobojunkie:YOU MUST BE A VERY DULL ANIMAL. Next time, read the post before quoting anyone. if you don't know how to read, then you better stay off comments section. I no get joy Nwa, I go do you strong thing anywhere i dey o, be warned I don't accept forgiveness at the end. USE YOUR HEAD DEY UR LANE AS I NO FOLLOW YOU TALK FROM BEGINNING. I too know go lead you enter trouble, no be everybody wer calm be fool. Be warned, stay far away from ME sir. Thank you for your cooperation! |
Re: Woman Collapses, Dies In Christ Apostolic Church Lagos, After 10-Day Fast by FatherOfJesus: 8:40am On May 03, 2021 |
jesusjnr1:Your are a deluded soul. If we ask you to provide evidence now, fight to start |
Re: Woman Collapses, Dies In Christ Apostolic Church Lagos, After 10-Day Fast by Kobojunkie: 11:56am On May 03, 2021 |
SaintAlbert53:were you told that the woman in question had an ulcer? |
Re: Woman Collapses, Dies In Christ Apostolic Church Lagos, After 10-Day Fast by jesusjnr1: 5:00pm On May 03, 2021 |
FatherOfJesus:Dead soul! Keep spewing deadness as characteristic! |
Re: Woman Collapses, Dies In Christ Apostolic Church Lagos, After 10-Day Fast by FatherOfJesus: 5:20pm On May 03, 2021 |
jesusjnr1:Stop insulting me because your God cannot show himself |
Re: Woman Collapses, Dies In Christ Apostolic Church Lagos, After 10-Day Fast by Wickedfacts: 11:00pm On May 03, 2021 |
FirmTR: But I do, that is why I'm engaging a dirty nonentity like you. |
Re: Woman Collapses, Dies In Christ Apostolic Church Lagos, After 10-Day Fast by TechDynastyy: 6:00am On May 04, 2021 |
Draslo: Lolxxx did it work though? |
Re: Woman Collapses, Dies In Christ Apostolic Church Lagos, After 10-Day Fast by pointblank247(m): 6:30am On May 04, 2021 |
OKOATA:Please what are COLORADO and LOUD? |
Re: Woman Collapses, Dies In Christ Apostolic Church Lagos, After 10-Day Fast by Emusan(m): 12:26pm On May 05, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse: Nonsense and ingredients. So instead of agitating after reading my post why not refute what i said with logical reasoning? Your post has no logical idea that warrants a logical reasoning of reply. Fasting in the scripture is abstinence from food. Only a brainwashed and enemies of the true word of God will have contrary opinions. Here are evidences from the scripture: Acts 10:30 "And Cornelius said, FOUR DAYS ago I was FASTING until THIS HOUR; and at the ninth hour I PRAYED in MY HOUSE...." Acts 14:23 "And when they had ordained them elders in every church, and PRAYED WITH FASTING, they commended to the Lord, on whom they believed." In fact this very one puts your lying mouth in shame: Acts 27:33 "And while the day was coming on, Paul besought THEM all to take MEAT (GREEK - trophe), saying, This day is the fourteenth day that ye have TARRIED and CONTINUED FASTING, having taking NOTHING" The Greek word "Trophe" translated as MEAT above means Nourishment (literally or figuratively); by implication, rations (wages) :- food, meat This same word was used for John the Baptist as "his MEAT (Trophe) was locust and wild honey" It's evident from the scripture that Jesus never preach your lies rather encourages us to FAST (abstinence from food) and pray. |
Re: Woman Collapses, Dies In Christ Apostolic Church Lagos, After 10-Day Fast by Emusan(m): 12:38pm On May 05, 2021 |
Kobojunkie: Lies, God didn't condemn their STARVING which means you didn't even understand what you read from that chapter. They raised accusation on God for DEPRIVING themselves food on God's day which is what God Himself tells people to do. But God let them know that their FASTING IS JUST STARVING THEIR BODY by failing to do the NORMAL THINGS DURING that period. Can you provide any Scholar review on this chapter? 2. The meaning of "fasting" is given to you there in Isaiah 58 beginning from verse 6 through 14. God redefines the term and tells you exactly what it should mean to you instead. It's not, fasting remains ABSTINENCE FROM FOOD you can proof me wrong with any reputable dictionary. 3. You are not called to doing as the prophets did but as God commands. But the same God through Christ commandment us to FAST AND PRAY....So which God are you talking about here? Acts 27:33 "And while the day was coming on, Paul besought THEM all to take MEAT (GREEK - trophe), saying, This day is the fourteenth day that ye have TARRIED and CONTINUED FASTING, having taking NOTHING" This particular verse says it all and shows those who are enemies of the word of God. |
Re: Woman Collapses, Dies In Christ Apostolic Church Lagos, After 10-Day Fast by MaxInDHouse(m): 2:55pm On May 05, 2021 |
I didn't say the first century Jewish Christians didn't starve themselves but the fact remains that NOBODY instructed them to do so, that's why you can't explain why you must starve yourself other than saying: "it's a tradition that people of ancient times do starve themselves and because we don't want to cheat them we also must starve ourselves" They were still practicing what they believed before Jesus came and it was gradually that they began seeing the light more clearer. But since it's not your heritage you can't understand what happened. For your information they made a lot of mistakes while trying to do many things from their human perspectives. The big issue is who instructed them to go on hunger strike? Remember they also tried to eradicate poverty in their midst, something Jesus already told them is impossible. So my friend it's our heritage if you don't learn from us you'll continue to kill yourselves with hunger strike like that woman whereas nothing tangible will be achieved in your churches! Emusan: |
Re: Woman Collapses, Dies In Christ Apostolic Church Lagos, After 10-Day Fast by Kobojunkiee: 4:38pm On May 05, 2021 |
Emusan:1) Where in the Bible did God command people to starve themselves on "his day"? 2) Please post this accusation you claim "they" made against God in Isaiah 58 so we can both see what you claim to see. 3) Why do you need a "scholar review" of what is written their in human language for your to comprehend using basic human language skills, right there in Isaiah 58? If you do not understand what is written their using the Bible translation you have, get another translation easier for you so you are clear on what is written there. 4) Pay attention to God's message to you in Isaiah 58 and stop trying to shove your own words down God's Truth here. In Isaiah 58, God Himself declares to you the kind of fasting He prefers from you - the kind He even declsred will cause Him to answer you . 5) You quoted Acts 27 vs 23 as God doing something but nowhere in that verse are you told that God commanded any of what took place there. As a matter of fact, if you considered that verse in the context it was provided you, you would have seen that the men definitely fasted their way out of fear, not God. |
Re: Woman Collapses, Dies In Christ Apostolic Church Lagos, After 10-Day Fast by Emusan(m): 9:20pm On May 05, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse: At least we're getting the facts gradually. Jesus told His disciples that "This thing goeth not except in prayer and FASTING" This made the early Christians to fast as recorded in the scripture. But lying mouth keeps twisting the scripture to suit the agenda of your father the Devil. that's why you can't explain why you must starve yourself other than saying: Who made this statement I've provided evidences from the scripture to show you how the true disciples of our Lord did and how Christ himself encourages FASTING. They were still practicing what they believed before Jesus came and it was gradually that they began seeing the light more clearer. See delusion, always stuck in the mentality of seeing LIGHT GRADUALLY/BRIGHTER. Yet many people were recorded to FAST even after years of Christ departure. But since it's not your heritage you can't understand what happened. Yes! It wasn't my heritage to lie and twist the scripture like you do, that's why you can't understand. For your information they made a lot of mistakes while trying to do many things from their human perspectives. Usual tactics to twist scripture. They made A LOT OF MISTAKES yet God didn't bother to correct them. I know one day, you people will claim openly that Bible contians A LOT OF MISTAKES The big issue is who instructed them to go on hunger strike? FASTING is a prescription and God Himself asked people to FAST. [s]Remember they also tried to eradicate poverty in their midst, something Jesus already told them is impossible.[/s] Where did you read that from Besides, didn't you people see their acts of giving and sharing as what worthy to emulate? So you believe their acts of giving and sharing things among themselves is to eradicate poverty.... There's nothing we won't hear from the agent of Devil. So my friend it's our heritage if you don't learn from us you'll continue to kill yourselves with hunger strike like that woman whereas nothing tangible will be achieved in your churches! I know your hypocrite will hold on to this situation to say rubish. People who have died from fasting can't be compared to the people your organization has killed through rejection of blood. Hypocrite! |
Re: Woman Collapses, Dies In Christ Apostolic Church Lagos, After 10-Day Fast by Emusan(m): 9:43pm On May 05, 2021 |
Kobojunkiee: Read my post again! 2) Please post this accusation you claim "they" made against God in Isaiah 58 so we can both see what you claim to see. It seems you don't understand my post. ‘Why have we fasted,’ they say, ‘and you have not seen it? Why have we humbled ourselves, and you have not noticed?’ “Yet on the day of your fasting, you do as you please and exploit all your workers. Isaiah 58:3 Any good student of the scripture will know that God wasn't against their FASTING but their ATTITUDES during the fasting. 3) Why do you need a "scholar review" of what is written their in human language for your to comprehend using basic human language skills, right there in Isaiah 58? If you do not understand what is written their using the Bible translation you have, get another translation easier for you so you are clear on what is written there. So funny how you can ask this question but why do you need teacher, Lecturer or why did you go to school at all? You should be the one who needs this advice because God never condemned fasting rather Jesus was recorded to fast, Apostles were recorded to fast, Jesus Himself said we can't do somethings without prayer and fasting. Which is reason why Jesus Himself appear to Coneilus because he was in prayers and FASTING. If Fasting is what God didn't welcome then coneilus can't be used. 4) Pay attention to God's message to you in Isaiah 58 and stop trying to shove your own words down God's Truth here. In Isaiah 58, God Himself declares to you the kind of fasting He prefers from you - the kind He even declsred will cause Him to answer you . I did and you pay attention to your level of English understanding because you're the one who is shoving your own words downs God's truth here. Even for you to MENTION the word FASTING shows you're confused, the word FASTING itself is abstained from food. So its evidence that you don't understand what you're saying. 5) You quoted Acts 27 vs 23 as God doing something but nowhere in that verse are you told that God commanded any of what took place there. As a matter of fact, if you considered that verse in the context it was provided you, you would have seen that the men definitely fasted their way out of fear, not God. Funny enough, what the servant of God did and nowhere God condemned them. At least you people can't remove that verse from the holy scripture and that's the evidence that people fast even after Isaiah was written, which shows you're the one who is giving wrong interpretation to Isaiah 58. Or you know more than Jesus Himself, John the Baptis, Apostle Paul, Coneilus e.t.c who fast many years after Isaiah 58 was written |
Re: Woman Collapses, Dies In Christ Apostolic Church Lagos, After 10-Day Fast by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:54pm On May 05, 2021 |
Jesus talked about FASTING just as he talked about sheep, goats, seed, fish and fishers. So if you don't learn what he meant from us you will continue to starve yourselves in vain and killing yourselves with stomach ulcer. I asked you: If Jesus didn't intentionally starve himself but was driven by God's Holy Spirit into the wilderness where he spent 40 days and 40 nights without food, and never repeated such again. Can you please explain the reason why they must starve themselves? Emusan: |
Re: Woman Collapses, Dies In Christ Apostolic Church Lagos, After 10-Day Fast by Emusan(m): 10:08pm On May 05, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse: You can continue to attach your own meaning to the word FASTING but from the scripture the evidence is that fasting is abstained from food and people were recorded to do it. I believe you know more than Jesus Himself, John the Baptist, Apostle Paul, And other people who fasted as recorded in the scripture. So they all starved themselves bah I asked you: So which means as God's Holy spirit directed Jesus to FAST which is by ABSTAINED FROM food, God can also direct people to fast today. The same reason God has to direct Jesus to wildness is the same reason people fast. Jesus Himself said, there are certain things we can achieve through PRAYER and FASTING. And the big point is FASTING is abstainess from food. This piece is enough for you from your own demonic organization. Under what circumstances did some in the Bible fast? When seeking help and guidance from God. The people journeying to Jerusalem fasted to show their sincerity in asking for God’s help. (Ezra 8:21-23) Paul and Barnabas at times chose to fast when appointing congregation elders.—Acts 14:23. When focusing on God’s purpose. After his baptism, Jesus fasted for 40 days to prepare himself to do God’s will during his coming ministry.—Luke 4:1, 2. When demonstrating repentance over past sins. Through the prophet Joel, God told unfaithful Israelites: “Return to me with all your hearts, with fasting and weeping and wailing.”—Joel 2:12-15. When observing the Day of Atonement. The Law that God gave to the nation of Israel included a command to fast on the annual Day of Atonement. * (Leviticus 16:29-31) Fasting was appropriate on this occasion because it reminded the Israelites that they were imperfect and needed God’s forgiveness. What are some improper motives for fasting? To impress others. Jesus taught that religious fasting should be a personal and private matter between an individual and God.—Matthew 6:16-18. To prove oneself righteous. Fasting does not make a person morally or spiritually superior.—Luke 18:9-14. To try to compensate for a deliberate practice of sin. (Isaiah 58:3, 4) God accepted only fasts that were accompanied by obedience and by heartfelt repentance for any sins committed. To carry out a religious formality. (Isaiah 58:5-7) In this respect, God is like a parent who is displeased when his children express love for him merely out of obligation, not from the heart. Is fasting required for Christians? No. God required the Israelites to fast on Atonement Day, but he eliminated that observance after Jesus permanently atoned for the sins of repentant people. (Hebrews 9:24-26; 1 Peter 3:18) Christians are not under the Mosaic Law, of which Atonement Day was a part. (Romans 10:4; Colossians 2:13, 14) Therefore, each Christian may decide for himself whether to fast.—Romans 14:1-4. https://www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/questions/bible-fasting-christian/ When you don't even listen and learn from your own organization and you're here telling someone to learn from you. |
Re: Woman Collapses, Dies In Christ Apostolic Church Lagos, After 10-Day Fast by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:21pm On May 05, 2021 |
The highlighted is exactly my point! So tell the world what exactly have your churches achieved through the hunger strike stuff? Jehovah's Witnesses has achieved LOVE, JOY and PEACE amongst themselves. They no longer allow Racism and Politics to devastate their gathering, they've settled all racial disputes, they've destroyed all weapons of war in their midst and they've vowed never to lift up weapons against their fellowman! According to Isaiah 2:2-4 and Micah 4:1-3 that is God's will for Mankind today! John 13:34-35 So tell me one thing others can't meet up but that your so called fasting has helped achieved in your churches! James 2:26 Emusan: |
Re: Woman Collapses, Dies In Christ Apostolic Church Lagos, After 10-Day Fast by Emusan(m): 10:30pm On May 05, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse: No! You're just twisting your mouth. The point here are whether, FASTING is abstainess from food Do scripture encourage us to fast? Was it well established from the scripture that People fasted? [s]So tell the world what exactly have your churches achieved through the hunger strike stuff? Mumbo jumbo as usual! So tell me one thing others can't meet up but that your so called fasting has helped achieved in your churches! James 2:26 Did people fast in the scripture? Does God against fasting Can a Christian fast? These are the points right now, no time for your delusion. As attached from your demonic organization above, it's evident that you don't even know your organization stand on the topic, while you're lying against the holy scripture. Just continue your father the Devil is so proud of you. |
Re: Woman Collapses, Dies In Christ Apostolic Church Lagos, After 10-Day Fast by MaxInDHouse(m): 11:04pm On May 05, 2021 |
What is it's purpose! You said: there are certain things we can achieve through PRAYER and FASTINGSo i told you what JWs are achieving globally and you angrily cancelled it. What i'm telling you is that anything God did not command His worshipers to do will never make any sense. All you'll keep saying is "people of ancient times starve themselves so we must not cheat them, therefore we too must starve ourselves" Emusan: |
Re: Woman Collapses, Dies In Christ Apostolic Church Lagos, After 10-Day Fast by Kobojunkie: 12:01am On May 06, 2021 |
Emusan:1. God told you that when It comes to His followers, that He alone is Teacher to all those who belong to Him meaning you do not need to consult the review of scholars, nor the word of others, when it comes to God, and the things of God. I am not a student of scripture but a follower of Jesus Christ and I don't interpret what is written.... God never told any of us to attempt such ridiculousness. He said we should start by using the understanding we have. And in even this case, basic human language comprehension skills will more than do the work. Jesus Christ put it an easier way to you. If you use the understanding you have, more understanding will be given you. But if you refuse to use the understanding you have, even that which you had will be taken away from you. So, you don't need humans or scholars to teach you of God, let God Himself do that for you. 2. Below is from the Easy-to-Read translation of the Bible of what is written in Isaiah 58 vs 1 -5. Pay close attention to what God is saying in each verse. pay particular attention to what God tells you in verse 5 above. Notice how He even points out that it is "your" days of fasting, not "His day" - "Your" days. If you search through scripture, even extrabiblical records, there is no report of God giving men a day of fasting, neither did God command men to starve themselves on His behalf. 3. Now, let's take a look at what God says in the other parts of the same chapter. Here, beginning in verse 6, God defines for you what He wants instead for His own day of fasting... this the "fasting" He commands of you. In Isaiah 58, God who never did command for us a day of fasting defines here for us a different kind of fasting, different from the pagan idea of fasting we were all used to partaking in. |
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