JohnSin97:


Lol....ok

Before nkor?

Igboid:


But available data shows that SW has highest rate of crime in Nigeria and Lagos was collated separately from SW in the stats.
Whether as individuals or groups. Yorubas lead in crime rate in Nigeria
https://www.nairaland.com/2246902/criminal-infested-region-southern-nigeria

See the above stats for yourself.

You also have a drug Baron as your political Jagaban.

And a drug addict/Baron as your governor:

True....but like every highly urbanized cities high crime rates aren't surprising, we have your economic refugees brothers coming from the east and hausa/foolany polio amputees coming from the north all to our region... So why wouldn't crime rates be high, although it's not stopping all foreign embassies and multinationals from situating in our "unsafe" region. But what's important is the data of ethnicities in those prisons, we won't have such data again but below is one conducted by your colonial white masters in the 1940s/50s. It obviously shows populate the prisons more than other tribes and am sure if we take an honest census like this today it won't be any different.

I just found one of the books those guys used to try insult our intelligence.
Now compare the regional generated revenue of the SE,SW and the North- interestingly the SW comes last

compare the colonial ethnic map of Nigeria, to the map of 12 states formed after the civil war

JohnSin97:


True....but like every highly urbanized cities high crime rates aren't surprising, we have your economic refugees brothers coming from the east and hausa/foolany polio amputees coming from the north all to our region... So why wouldn't crime rates be high, although it's not stopping all foreign embassies and multinationals from situating in our "unsafe" region. But what's important is the data of ethnicities in those prisons, we won't have such data again but below is one conducted by your colonial white masters in the 1940s/50s. It obviously shows populate the prisons more than other tribes and am sure if we take an honest census like this today it won't be any different.

Lol!
And what were their crime?
For all we know majority of them could have been mainly Ekumeku warriors captured at the end of the war, they could have been Aro warriors captured by the end of Anglo-Aro war, nearly every single Igbo town had to put up resistance against British colonialism and the British had to defeat each and every single town separately and there after they went about arresting ring leaders of such resistance in that town once defeated, tried and jailed them for almost life imprisonment. They could have been colonial tax defaulters, no other place in Nigeria were there more resistance to colonial rule and taxation than in Igboland and most of them were arrested and tried by colonial courts and there after jailed.

So until you attach the crimes of those Igbo prisoners, your stat is meaningless and is open to any interpretation any one likes.

But here, we have stats of Yoruba criminals and their crimes:https://www.nairaland.com/2246902/criminal-infested-region-southern-nigeria

We know their crimes were not related to resistance to colonial rule.
We know they were notorious armed robbers, terrorists, internet frauds, etc.

eduj:
I just found one of the books those guys used to try insult our intelligence.
Now compare the regional generated revenue of the SE,SW and the North- interestingly the SW comes last

Lol you shot yourself in the foot.

Are you honestly rettarded or you didn't read the screenshot you posted...

Igboid:


Lol!
And what were their crime?
For all we know majority of them could have been mainly Ekumeku warriors captured at the end of the war, they could have been Aro warriors captured by the end of Anglo-Aro war, they could have been colonial tax defaulters, no other place in Nigeria were there more resistance to colonial rule than in Igboland and most of them were arrested and tried by colonial courts and there after jailed.

So until you attach the crimes of those Igbo prisoners, your stat is meaningless and is open to any interpretation any one likes.

But here, we have stats of Yoruba criminals and their crimes:https://www.nairaland.com/2246902/criminal-infested-region-southern-nigeria

We know their crimes were not related to resistance to colonial rule.

Could haves, assumptions and 0 facts or data......I don't expect more from a dumbass.

JohnSin97:


Lol you shot yourself in the foot.

Are you honestly rettarded or you didn't read the screenshot you posted...

I guess your eye went to the federal colonial revenue instead of the regional revenue (thats the igr you guys can't stop getting of now).
Going from the above, the East generated more Regional revenue than the west.
Heck, if that ebook is to be believed ,kano had the largest number of international flights before independence

Lord lugards argument for almagamation

Nigeria's largest export earners before independence

eduj:


I guess your eye went to the federal colonial revenue instead of the regional revenue (thats the igr you guys can't stop getting of now).
Going from the above, the East generated more Regional revenue than the west.
Heck, if that ebook is to be believed ,kano had the largest number of international flights before independence

That just simply means that your regional governments were taxing you more than the federal allowing for more revenues for the region compared to other regions. What's important is the total and the difference is quite clear.

The lie the keep recycling about the East being mostly uneducated before independence. From this document by a Yoruba man,we where never behind in Education

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JohnSin97:


Could haves, assumptions and 0 facts or data......I don't expect more from a dumbass.

Your stat is incomplete and left to any interpretation.

Bring forth the adjoining stats for the offense of the prisoners, then we have a deal.

We know that in Igboland there was a fierce war against colonialism by every single Igbo clan with Aro-Anglo war and Ekumeku war being the biggest and most popular, and that each of the wars were accompanied by British victory and subsequent mass arrest and imprisonment of the warriors and their ring leaders.
Chinua Achebe outlined this in TFA novel.

We also know that Igbos saw taxation as alien and unacceptable and revolted violently against it which led to many arrests of defaulters by colonial police we called "Cotuma" and subsequent imprisonment of defaulters.
This led to the famous Aba women riot subsequently.

So until you provide stats that show the crimes committed by Igbo prisoners. Your stat remain meaningless.

JohnSin97:


That just simply means that your regional governments were taxing you more than the federal allowing for more revenues for the region compared to other regions. What's important is the total and the difference is quite clear.

Nope it simply means that more taxes were paid in the East than the West.
A part of that book has an employment survey -i will post it.

Hope you looked at the loan section ?
And a rejoinder, the Colonials shared allocation gotten from export duties to the regions and from what am seeing here,the SE generated more than the Sw

It seems corruption is a Nigerian FULANI thing- according to the colonial masters

Igboid:


Your stat is incomplete and left to any interpretation.

Bring forth the adjoining stats for the offense of the prisoners, then we have a deal.

We know that in Igboland there was a fierce war against colonialism by every single Igbo clan with Aro-Anglo war and Ekumeku war being the biggest and most popular, and that each of the wars were accompanied by British victory and subsequent mass arrest and imprisonment of the warriors and their ring leaders.
Chinua Achebe outlined this in TFA novel.

We also know that Igbos saw taxation as alien and unacceptable and revolted violently against it which led to many arrests of defaulters by colonial police we called "Cotuma" and subsequent imprisonment of defaulters.
This led to the famous Aba women riot subsequently.

So until you provide stats that show the crimes committed by Igbo prisoners. Your stat remain meaningless.

Bring stats showing that those Igbo jail birds were prisoners of war and probably not ngua cannibals, Igbo rapists and robbers.

eduj:


Nope it simply means that more taxes were paid in the East than the West.
A part of that book has an employment survey -i will post it.

Hope you looked at the loan section ?
And a rejoinder, the Colonials shared allocation gotten from export duties to the regions and from what am seeing here,the SE generated more than the Sw

The screenshots you're posting doesn't validate any of your claims.

JohnSin97:


Bring stats showing that those Igbo jail birds were prisoners of war and probably not ngua cannibals, Igbo rapists and robbers.

So basically you can't prove their crime. Since fighting the Colonials or resisting their taxation and other colonial policies were crimes in those days and no region fought the Colonials in Nigeria more than Igboland.

And so your high Igbo prisoners is expected and your stat subject to anyone interpretation.

But I Know the type of crime should be in that document you screenshot and posted here but for some reason it doesn't suit your agenda, so you are keeping it to yourself.


Well either way, until you provide stats of their crimes, your current stat remains meaningless and open to any interpretation.

Traditional Igbo society never had rapists or armed robbers, neither did we have drugs of abuse.
So your stat is obviously useless.

But we know for certain the crimes of Yorubas here and that they lead in them:https://www.nairaland.com/2246902/criminal-infested-region-southern-nigeria

Afam belonged to old Aba division but was carved out to Rivers state because of ..

Igboid:


Lol!
And what were their crime?
For all we know majority of them could have been mainly Ekumeku warriors captured at the end of the war, they could have been Aro warriors captured by the end of Anglo-Aro war, nearly every single Igbo town had to put up resistance against British colonialism and the British had to defeat each and every single town separately and there after they went about arresting ring leaders of such resistance in that town once defeated, tried and jailed them for almost life imprisonment. They could have been colonial tax defaulters, no other place in Nigeria were there more resistance to colonial rule and taxation than in Igboland and most of them were arrested and tried by colonial courts and there after jailed.

So until you attach the crimes of those Igbo prisoners, your stat is meaningless and is open to any interpretation any one likes.

But here, we have stats of Yoruba criminals and their crimes:https://www.nairaland.com/2246902/criminal-infested-region-southern-nigeria

We know their crimes were not related to resistance to colonial rule.
We know they were notorious armed robbers, terrorists, internet frauds, etc.

guy u just they murder this people.

JohnSin97:


The screenshots you're posting doesn't validate any of your claims.

And which claim is that?
you where at the other thread shouting to the high heavens that the SE has always been parasitic, now am showing you screenshots from a document you guys referenced,and also put together by a Yoruba man you are getting jittery?

Igboid:


So basically you can't prove their crime.
And so it's subject to anyone interpretation.

But I Know the crime should be in that document you screenshot and posted here but for some reason it doesn't suit your agenda, so you are keeping it to yourself.


Well either way, until you provide stats of their crimes, your current stat remains meaningless and open to any interpretation.

Traditional Igbo society never had rapists or armed robbers, neither did we have drugs of abuse.
So your stat is obviously useless.

But we know for certain the crimes of Yorubas here and that they lead in them:https://www.nairaland.com/2246902/criminal-infested-region-southern-nigeria

Still making stupid claims sharing no data but stupid NL threads created by rettards like you.... you're living proof of that stupidity is prevelent in igboland.

eduj:

And which claim is that?
you where at the other thread shouting to the high heavens that the SE has always been parasitic, now am showing you screenshots from a document you guys referenced,and also put together by a Yoruba man you are getting jittery?

I hope people actually read the screenshots you're posting....cus you're disproving yourself. Seems you plan on editing it later to fit your argument.

Anyways bye.

JohnSin97:



Still making stupid claims sharing no data but stupid NL threads created by rettards like you.... you're living proof of that stupidity is prevelent in igboland.

Pained Yoruba Muslim.

Where is your stat for the type of crimes committed by Igbo prisoners?

Resisting a colonial tax collector was a crime in 1940 punishable by jail sentence or fines.
Resisting British colonialism was a crime and all the warriors who fought and lost were summarily arrested and jailed.
No where in Nigeria were there more resistance to colonialism than Igboland,the Igbos were never a people to accept subjugation without putting up a fight,so rationally speaking, there should be more Igbo prisoners than any other ethnicity in Nigeria.

I mean Yorubaland literally invited the British to come and colonize them after they got tired of protracted Kiriji wars. So how exactly were they going to have high colonial prisoners?

The Bini were a monarchical people, once you arrest the Oba and jail him in Calabar, they all surrendered. But the Igbo were not monarchical. There was no single head to arrest to end it all. Mass arrest was the only way and even that was not always effective as new ring leaders usually sprang up.

JohnSin97:


I hope people actually read the screenshots you're posting....cus you're disproving yourself. Seems you plan on editing it later to fit your argument.

Anyways bye.

why are you running?

The SE had more Regional revenue than the SW before independence -Fact

The SE through the coal mine at udi powered Nigeria's railway and power plants before and after independence -Fact

We were on per with the SW in terms of education -Fact

We contributed more in terms of export revenue before independence (palm kernels,palm oil,timber,coal etc)- Fact



If am misrepresenting the screenshots,begin pointing them out- as you tried pointing out that of revenue.

Don't go,I have other screenshots to share. You will love the one about ethnic employment and industrialization

Igboid:


Pained Yoruba Muslim.

Where is your stat for the type of crimes committed by Igbo prisoners?

Resisting a colonial tax collector was a crime in 1940 punishable by jail sentence or fines.
Resisting British colonialism was a crime and all the warriors who fought and lost were summarily arrested and jailed.
No where in Nigeria were there more resistance to colonialism than Igboland,the Igbos were never a people to accept subjugation without putting up a fight,so rationally speaking, there should be more Igbo prisoners than any other ethnicity in Nigeria.

I mean Yorubaland literally invited the British to come and colonize them after they got tired of protracted Kiriji wars. So how exactly were they going to have high colonial prisoners?

Atleast I've shown a stat of the ethnicities of prisoners, bring your own stat showing the crimes of those individuals, you you're freedom fighters but all what your freedom fighter leaders know how to do best from Ojukuwu to Nnamdi kanu is to run abroad disguised women .
Quit your stupid islamophobic nature, just like Benjamin Adekunle who killed a thousand of your brothers and mothers in the war.....just like him I am a full blooded Yoruba christain.

Goodnight, am done with your stupidity.

Igboid:


Pained Yoruba Muslim.

Where is your stat for the type of crimes committed by Igbo prisoners?

Resisting a colonial tax collector was a crime in 1940 punishable by jail sentence or fines.
Resisting British colonialism was a crime and all the warriors who fought and lost were summarily arrested and jailed.
No where in Nigeria were there more resistance to colonialism than Igboland,the Igbos were never a people to accept subjugation without putting up a fight,so rationally speaking, there should be more Igbo prisoners than any other ethnicity in Nigeria.

I mean Yorubaland literally invited the British to come and colonize them after they got tired of protracted Kiriji wars. So how exactly were they going to have high colonial prisoners?

The Bini were a monarchical people, once you arrest the Oba and jail him in Calabar, they all surrendered. But the Igbo were not monarchical. There was no single head to arrest to end it all. Mass arrest was the only way and even that was not always effective as new ring leaders usually sprang up.

Am trying to locate the document the lifted that prison stats from. if you can get it, you will see the hypocritical nature of this igbo-phobic dudes.

Ogwashi-Uku’s fall in 1911, paralysed the revolution; some 300 warriors, were arrested, tried, and jailed at Calabar. Among them were Chief Ijeh from Issele-Uku and Chief Ibe from Ugbodu. Others were chiefs: Mordi, Odum, Nwajido and Banoba of Idumuje-Unor – heroes all.

Imagine at the end of just Ekumeku war.
300 Igbos were arrested, tried and jailed.
Just at the end. We haven't considered the numbers captured during the war itself, and it's a resistance that lasted for 31years.(1983-1914)
Imagine how many Igbo prisoners only just Ekumeku resistance produced.

https://www.vanguardngr.com/2019/03/ekumeku-war-anioma-uprising-against-british-rule/

eduj:

why are you running?

The SE had more Regional revenue than the SW before independence -Fact

False.....based on the screenshots shared by you.....the sum total of revenue generated by the western region clearly out numbers that of the eastern region..... you're being half smart by stating revenues generated in the region solely for the region.

Some of the Aro leaders, like Okoro Toti, were arrested, tried by tribunals, and hanged. The power hitherto held by the Aro Confederacy quickly evaporated and Eze Kanu Okoro (king of Arochukwu), went into hiding but was later arrested. Although Aro dominance crumbled in March 1902, many Aros took part in guerilla campaigns against the British in the region such as in Afikpo (1902–1903), Ezza (1905), and other areas where the Aro had a particularly significant presence. The defeat of the Aro did help the British to open up the interior, but serious opposition to British colonial penetration in Igboland clearly did not end with the Anglo-Aro War. I

Aro warriors And ring leaders were arrested and jailed too.
Alll part of Igbo prisoners.

Every single Igbo clan fought the British Individually and lost and had warriors and ring leaders arrested and jailed.

So why wouldn't colonial prisons be filled with Igbo prisoners?

Commonly referred to as “Mba Ji Isi Acho Isi” (the Nation of Headhunters) for their long history of military prowess and exceptional bravery in the face of combat, the Ohafia people have been known to embrace challenges and stand rigid in the face of danger. In a community in which strength and valor were the parameters by which social honors were conferred, wars—especially those with the White Men—were a prime opportunity for young Ohafia lads to earn eagle feathers of their own with which to brandish their caps—a badge of inimitable courage and achievement.

Such an opportunity came in the year 1901, when the British Royal West African Frontier Force (RWAFF) invaded Igboland in a punitive campaign to demolish Igbo resistance to colonial rule and avenge the Massacre of their compatriots at Obegu. That year, Obegu, a pro-British town in what is now Abia State, had been sacked and a large number of its inhabitants were massacred by anti-British forces headed mainly by the Aro and their Ohafia, Abiriba, and Abam allies. As retribution for their involvement in the massacre, the Ohafia people were among those targeted by British forces.

That year, Eke Kalu, a former-slave-turned-business man, was visiting the British-held port city of Calabar on a business errand when he witnessed the White Men and their African soldiers preparing for their assault on his homeland. Earlier in his life, Kalu had served as a load carrier for RWAFF troops throughout their campaigns and had witnessed the devastating effects of their artillery and machine guns. Driven into action by the urgent need to save his people from their imminent doom, he hurried out of Calabar via canoe and returned to Ohafia, where he issued warnings to no avail.
As they approached Ohafia, the British forces first stopped at Ebem and set up camp. As soon as they pitched their tents, a charge of Ebem warriors led by their commander, Idika Echeme, attacked. Startled at first, the British suffered a few casualties but soon brought the force of their Maxim machine guns to bear on the hapless Ebem warriors, who were armed with mere dane guns and swords. (Continued in comments)

British artillery further devastated the charging warriors and cut down wave after wave, eventually routing the survivors. After the battle, Ebem was burned down.

Back in Ohafia, news of Ebem’s demise only helped Kalu dissuade his people from what was considered suicidal resistance. As the British approached Ohafia, a delegation led by Eke Kalu awaited them at the town’s outskirts. As the soldiers neared, he waved a bamboo pole upon which was tied a white handkerchief and shouted: “Anyi kwere na nde Bekee” (we agree to the British).

Complete Reading here: http://igbobia.com/?q=how-the-ohafia-people-were-saved-from-british-massacrethe-1901-story-of-the-brave-eke-kalu.html