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|Should A Church Preach A Certain Type Of Message? by lastchild: 1:27pm On Jun 08|
winners chapel preach on prosperity, mfm preach on deliverance, deeper life preach on salvation
all these churches hardly mix it up with something else, they deliberate only on that issue in diverse ways
on Sunday, a pastor said every man of God has a message God sent him to come and preach
do you believe him? or ministries should be versatile in preaching all the angles like salvation, prosperity, deliverance and all
|Re: Should A Church Preach A Certain Type Of Message? by advanceDNA: 1:36pm On Jun 08|
U don’t attend these churches u mentioned every sunday ...so y don’t know what they preach...how can u claim a church preach only one thing
|Re: Should A Church Preach A Certain Type Of Message? by MaxInDHouse(m): 1:45pm On Jun 08|
The topic of the message Jesus, John the baptist and the first Century Christian congregation preached is "The Kingdom (Government) of God" Matthew 3:1-2, 4:17
|Re: Should A Church Preach A Certain Type Of Message? by lasisi69: 1:50pm On Jun 08|
the main purpose should be "salvation"
and obedience to his words. Cause, through that, you get all what you want from God
|Re: Should A Church Preach A Certain Type Of Message? by ukaface(f): 1:51pm On Jun 08|
They ought to preach about Everything in the Bible.
The Bible ain't in segments.
|Re: Should A Church Preach A Certain Type Of Message? by lastchild: 8:31pm On Jun 08|
advanceDNA:I've been a winner for 12 years
the preach only on prosperity
|Re: Should A Church Preach A Certain Type Of Message? by advanceDNA: 8:39pm On Jun 08|
U are not a winner member...if u truly attended the church u will know they preach their 12 doctrines..one each month..prosperity is only one of them...consecration/holyness, faith etc
If u sit down and listen to the the General overseer for five minutes out of every of his teaching ..two things u will always hear from him are ...preaching the gospel and praying for the advancement of God’skingdom...
And he’s not a hypocrite that say what he doesn’t do when he comes to preaching ...
I’ve seen more than 10 times under Sango otta bridge....so saying winners only preach prosperity after being there for 12 years is lame and pathetic....
U don’t have to agree with a denomination but lying is just irritating
|Re: Should A Church Preach A Certain Type Of Message? by lastchild: 12:11pm On Jun 09|
advanceDNA:Oga, I can only argue with people who have knowledge
I'm a sanctuary leader in ibom plaza winners chapel, Uyo, I joined winners chapel 2009, did my baptism 2011 and my wofbi 2012
you are not even a winner and you want to argue me, don't argue what you don't know
when winners talks about kingdom advancement endeavors, is one of the things to do so God will prosper you, the faith is the faith to have to get from God (prosperity)
winners don't preach on what can I do to make heaven
I could go on to enlighten you , but why should I?
|Re: Should A Church Preach A Certain Type Of Message? by drake99: 12:21pm On Jun 09|
advanceDNA:Mr man, you don't know what you are saying
winners preaching holiness? you must be dreaming,winners is a very good church, prosperity is not a sin, God's wants us to prosper
winners is a prosperity message church, like I said it's not wrong but the Op is right, winners preach faith so you'll be prosperd, they pray for kingdom advancement so God will bless you
I was a winners for 2 years (I love the church)
winners don't preach salvation and holiness, don't argue
|Re: Should A Church Preach A Certain Type Of Message? by advanceDNA: 1:08pm On Jun 09|
So you were in winners for 12 years and not a single month did the church branch preach about consecration..??
they never preached about engaging the Holy Ghost which will surely involve consecration...
they preach faith and they still don’t talk about consecration or holiness at all....
They never talked about salvation or call alter call for those that want to meet Jesus...okay oooo..how is this even possible sir??
what ever u say shaaa.....u were the one in the branch....wherever that is..
But winners churches preach the same theme of the month every where...The first time I attended cannan land,was the month they were preaching “holiness and as a gateway to blessedness.”
So u have never heard the bishop peach on consecration or holiness either??
|Re: Should A Church Preach A Certain Type Of Message? by advanceDNA: 1:10pm On Jun 09|
I never argued with you...I’ve been to cannan land many times...I don’t know where u hear your preaching from...u too ...for two years...u heard teaching on faith, engaging the Holy Ghost, preaching the gospel, praise, and not once did they mention holyness...okay ooo...I believe u too
|Re: Should A Church Preach A Certain Type Of Message? by lastchild: 9:09pm On Jun 09|
advanceDNA:Oga, I've already explained this to you, that when they preach these things you mentioned, it is what you have to do to be blessed, which is the prosperity we are talking about
you even said the day you went, they were preaching holiness and blessedness which is still prosperity
anytime winners talks about holiness, it is a do for blessing, when they call alter call, it is for people who wants to partake in the prosperity that they preached that day
winners chapel, they don't emphasize on heaven, like what can I do to make heaven just like deeper life, winners and watchman do
|Re: Should A Church Preach A Certain Type Of Message? by advanceDNA: 10:21pm On Jun 09|
Wait ..U said when they call later call..it is for people who want to partake in prosperity??
That’s what they actually say in ur church??
That’s those who wan to partake in prosperity and not those who wan to be saved?? Well, if u say so
|Re: Should A Church Preach A Certain Type Of Message? by Kobojunkie: 10:25pm On Jun 09|
lastchild:1. The only message that everyone who is a follower of Jesus Christ is instructed to preach to the world is the Gospel of the Kingdom of God as taught to us all by Jesus Christ. All hybrid messages, the doctrines and traditions of men are lies , and this according to Jesus Christ - Matthew 15 vs 1 - 14.
2. All those who teach these doctrines and traditions of men are false teachers and prophets whom Jesus Christ warned warned are condemned by God - Matthew 23 vs 1-36 . Those who listen to and follow these false teaches and their doctrines are condemned to fall in the same ditch which their teachers end up in - Matthew 15 vs 14
|Re: Should A Church Preach A Certain Type Of Message? by Image123(m): 10:43pm On Jun 09|
Ephesians 4:11 And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers; 4:12 For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ: 4:13 Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ:
Preachers are like several subjects in a school/class. They are interwoven and not necessarily the same. They should all preach the good news and the Christian life, albeit from different perspectives. Jesus Christ message to the churches are not exactly the same but all towards the same goal.
|Re: Should A Church Preach A Certain Type Of Message? by lastchild: 8:46am On Jun 10|
advanceDNA:yes that's what they say
now let me clear it for you, in winners, after preaching about prosperity, then they'll say things like.. if you want to get this breakthrough of prosperity, you have to give your life to christ, that's how alter call happens
winners don't make alter call for people who wants to go to heaven
|Re: Should A Church Preach A Certain Type Of Message? by advanceDNA: 9:14am On Jun 10|
But in all fairness...I still think u guys are exaggerating this...
U said they teach faith, tell people to preach the gospel, they preach giving, etc so if u genuinely do this things..Won’t u make heaven...
can u truly be a soul winner without being
Can u truly have faith and not please God ?
At the end of the day are the principles of the kingdom not interwoven??
That’s why I asked..is it possible to be a true soul winner without being saved...??
|Re: Should A Church Preach A Certain Type Of Message? by lastchild: 6:08pm On Jun 10|
so you don't know it's possible to be a soul winner and still not make heaven, so you don't know that you can be a giver and still go to hell? so you don't know that you can be a preacher of faith and Jesus will deny you at the last day?
listen, someone can be all these without living right(righteousness) someone can be all these things and still be a murderer, fornicator, back biter, murmurer, Infact someone can be all these things while dwelling in sin, plz don't be decieved by the message of once saved is forever safe
righteousness is a ticket to heaven, not paying tithe, being a giver or soul winning, haven't you heard that people shall load millions of people to heaven and miss heaven themselves?
winners doesn't preach righteousness my dear, all these things you mention are what they tell you to do and be prospered, not going to heaven
one more time, let me answer your question again, YES you can be all these you mentioned and go to hell
as the matter of fact, there are unbelievers who possessed all these qualities you just mention, just to prosper, they don't have heart for christ
let me answer you again so that it'll sink inside you, you can be all these things and still miss heaven, the ultimate ticket to heaven is getting born again (John 3:3) and live a righteous life (not perfect)
|Re: Should A Church Preach A Certain Type Of Message? by advanceDNA: 6:18pm On Jun 10|
You are just dancing around and twisting context...I’m well aware that someone can miss heaven for so many reasons..even though he became a Christian at some point . that’s not my point.....and u know what I asked u ..u just jumped elsewhere
My point is ....you have faith, u are a giver, you surrendered you life to Jesus genuinely, and you truly win souls... is there no chance to make heaven ??...
. if there is... they teach u all these things in winners... unless a person is just a hearer and not a doer, or is a hypocrite, there’s no reason for the person not to make heaven if he remains genuinely in Christ
|Re: Should A Church Preach A Certain Type Of Message? by lastchild: 6:25pm On Jun 10|
advanceDNA:and I answered you that they don't teach all these you mentioned in winners, winners don't teach you how to abstain from sin(which is surrendering your life to Jesus you mentioned)
|Re: Should A Church Preach A Certain Type Of Message? by drake99: 6:29pm On Jun 10|
advanceDNA:brother, you are just stressing yourself, winners chapel doesn't preach on holiness, people who are members are telling you, mentioning holiness during alter call is not teaching on it
although, prosperity is not a sin but winners deliberate on it alot, if you want to hear salvation message, go to deeper life , though those people Bleep themselves too
|Re: Should A Church Preach A Certain Type Of Message? by advanceDNA: 7:56pm On Jun 10|
This is not true..
|Re: Should A Church Preach A Certain Type Of Message? by lastchild: 9:02pm On Jun 10|
advanceDNA:are you a winner?
answer this question correctly
|Re: Should A Church Preach A Certain Type Of Message? by advanceDNA: 9:34pm On Jun 10|
Why I said it’s not true is that I’ve been there several times and I’ve heard this teachings u said it’s not there..
|Re: Should A Church Preach A Certain Type Of Message? by lastchild: 10:28pm On Jun 10|
advanceDNA:look for where you go, not winners
winners is a church that you can be comfortable in your sin because nobody preaches against it
|Re: Should A Church Preach A Certain Type Of Message? by advanceDNA: 10:53pm On Jun 10|
So answer this truthfully.
so all the time u were there... u had faith, u went out to preach the gospel genuinely, u gave to the poor and to the advancement of God’s kingdom, u had the holy ghost and speak in tongues.. and u were still comfortable in your sins??
|Re: Should A Church Preach A Certain Type Of Message? by lastchild: 12:22pm On Jun 11|
advanceDNA:very yes, until I found christ on my own, until I realized that church will save no man
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