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Re: Obasanjo: One, United Nigeria 'Should Not Be At Any Cost' by musicwriter(m): 10:21am On Jun 10, 2021
But Mr Obasanjo, who noted that Nigeria’s diversity remained a major source of its strength, explained that disintegration would result in “weak republics”.

“One thing that gives us strength is our diversity. If all that we have is Republic of Oduduwa for those who say so, members of that country will be diminished compared to being a citizen of Nigeria.

“Citizens of Oduduwa Republic or any other republic borne out of Nigeria will be diminished compared to being citizens of Nigeria.

“In this age and time that we are talking about the reintegration of Africa for economic development, disintegration of any country will be almost idiotic,” he said.

The former president wondered what would become of the over 300 minorities in Nigeria if the three major tribes went their separate ways.

“If we have Igboland as an independent country, Yorubaland, an independent country, and Fulani/Hausaland an independent country, where will the Jukuns or the Gbasama belong?

With due respect, Obasanjo you don't know what you're talking about. There are many successful countries in the world with populations less than most Nigerian ethnic groups- Singapore, Brunei, Macau, Hong Kong, Belize, Bahamas, etc, too many to mention. Even here in Africa, the smaller African countries; such as Gambia, Senegal, Botswana, Mauritius, etc, are relatively more successful than the bigger African countries simply because being smaller, they're closer to themselves.

Africa was already that way, which was and still our natural statehood. It took our ancestors millions of years to create that!!

You people misunderstand the whole concept of nationhood because you don't understand the difference between a country and a nation. There's no African nation; only the smaller African countries may have a feeling of nationhood because they're closer to themselves but in a big country like Nigeria there's no strong sense of nationhood. Therefore, the center cannot hold.

Nobody is saying that Africa should be splitted into thousands of countries but let the different African nationalities that make up the African continent be able to govern themselves, manage their resources, study in their native language, and completely run as independent nations within one African country if you like. In fact, we can elect one African president if we want. You Mr. Obasanjo can become the president of one Africa. Only then shall the diversity make sense because like the USA, we African nations (tribes) will have internal peace and would then be able to unleash our intellects and our natural ingenuity to compete toe to toe with the rest of the world. We cannot unleash the best of ourselves right now because we are locked down into a system of fake nationhood created for us by Europeans. We are living a reality that our African ancestors did not create. We are living an illusion!!

African elites are fools!!

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Re: Obasanjo: One, United Nigeria 'Should Not Be At Any Cost' by MrMacinterchi1: 10:21am On Jun 10, 2021
Temidayo9:
I disagree with you sir on the issue surrounding already disintegrated Nations that are not doing better, currently, Nigeria happen to be the only country in the world that is being govern with lies from its leaders just like what you posted above,
Nigeria is not 1, and we can never be , this is the hard truth we need to say to ourself.
And more also, South Sudan is far more better than Nigeria of today.
You know you can make your point without exaggerating it right. Even with the behemoth of troubles facing Nigeria now, south Sudan can't even reach the knee of Nigeria If they were to stand side by side.

Come off it.
Re: Obasanjo: One, United Nigeria 'Should Not Be At Any Cost' by walozanga(m): 10:31am On Jun 10, 2021
Rugaria:
Funny man! Every single political problem we have in this country today has your imprints on it. This country would have been better if you were not born... 1966, after the coup, Nzeogwu sent you to Lagos to negotiate with Ironsi, you went there and feathered your own nest, inviting Nzeogwu over for a peace deal with Ironsi. Dude was arrested at the airport on arrival. 1975, you knew how blood thirsty Murtala Mohammed was but still organized a coup with him because those of you in the Army that saw yourselves as "the field commanders" during the war, wanted to take charge from your Ogas! Murtala came in and destroyed the Civil Service with his ubiquitous "fight against corruption", then started the mindless desecration of the country with whimsical state creations done without recourse to either ethnic or cultural affinities amongst constituent units. Nigeria has never recovered from this!

You then took over in 1976 and started off by basically eliminating most middle belt officers with trumped up charges! Backdating decrees and summarily executing convicts tried by prejudiced tribunals. That's how the army was handed over to the fulanis. You sealed that off by forcing half baked Shagari on us as the president just to thank the far north for making you president! They will make you a president again in 1999 since you are the only one they can trust with power in the whole of Western Nigeria and again, you handed power back to another fuulani as if they are the only ethnic group in Northern Nigeria! Again, you will resurrect Buhari from the dead and foist him on Nigeria, yet again as the president! That's 3 fulanis you made presidents in one lifetime! You can see how your fulani experiment is working out in paces like Agatu, Iganga and Benin Republic IDP camps! In between all these, you became one of the richest people on earth! Killed thousands in Odi and levelled Zaki Biam! How can such a character be allowed to pontificate on Nigerias problems?

The man is an animal

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Re: Obasanjo: One, United Nigeria 'Should Not Be At Any Cost' by calcal: 11:23am On Jun 10, 2021
“We had seen it before, India was broken into India and Pakistan, they are still at war till today. “Yugoslavia was broken into different countries, they haven’t sorted it till today.
“Sudan was broken into Sudan and South Sudan, I don’t believe South Sudan is better for it and that is the truth,” he said.

Anyone that compare things with bad example will never succeed

The Malaysia Agreement or the Agreement relating to Malaysia between United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, Federation of Malaya, North Borneo, Sarawak and Singapore was the agreement which combined North Borneo, Sarawak, and Singapore with the existing states of the Federation of Malaya,[3] the resulting union being named Malaysia.[4][5]

Singapore was later expelled from Malaysia, becoming an independent state on 9 August 1965.[6]

Check Singapore and Malaysia progress.

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Re: Obasanjo: One, United Nigeria 'Should Not Be At Any Cost' by samwillyco1(m): 11:33am On Jun 10, 2021
One NIGERIA is a laughing stock, marriage is not by force
Re: Obasanjo: One, United Nigeria 'Should Not Be At Any Cost' by omonnakoda: 11:37am On Jun 10, 2021
Rugaria:
Funny man! Every single political problem we have in this country today has your imprints on it. This country would have been better if you were not born... 1966, after the coup, Nzeogwu sent you to Lagos to negotiate with Ironsi, you went there and feathered your own nest, inviting Nzeogwu over for a peace deal with Ironsi. Dude was arrested at the airport on arrival. 1975, you knew how blood thirsty Murtala Mohammed was but still organized a coup with him because those of you in the Army that saw yourselves as "the field commanders" during the war, wanted to take charge from your Ogas! Murtala came in and destroyed the Civil Service with his ubiquitous "fight against corruption", then started the mindless desecration of the country with whimsical state creations done without recourse to either ethnic or cultural affinities amongst constituent units. Nigeria has never recovered from this!

You then took over in 1976 and started off by basically eliminating most middle belt officers with trumped up charges! Backdating decrees and summarily executing convicts tried by prejudiced tribunals. That's how the army was handed over to the fulanis. You sealed that off by forcing half baked Shagari on us as the president just to thank the far north for making you president! They will make you a president again in 1999 since you are the only one they can trust with power in the whole of Western Nigeria and again, you handed power back to another fuulani as if they are the only ethnic group in Northern Nigeria! Again, you will resurrect Buhari from the dead and foist him on Nigeria, yet again as the president! That's 3 fulanis you made presidents in one lifetime! You can see how your fulani experiment is working out in paces like Agatu, Iganga and Benin Republic IDP camps! In between all these, you became one of the richest people on earth! Killed thousands in Odi and levelled Zaki Biam! How can such a character be allowed to pontificate on Nigerias problems?



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bviS5aqi3fk
Re: Obasanjo: One, United Nigeria 'Should Not Be At Any Cost' by Reference(m): 12:28pm On Jun 10, 2021
Rissimenky:


THEN MOVE TO ANOTHER COUNTRY.

NIGERIA WILL NOT SPLIT UP JUST BECAUSE TRAITORS LIKE YOU EXIST.

...then move to another country....Nigeria will not split 'up' because....

Can you see the paradox folks like you live in. What do you want exactly. Should he, she...them, they... go or not...

You have your cake and desire to eat it as well

So what I suggest to folks like you. Look for a quiet place, under a lonely tree somewhere remote, sit down and think long, hard and deeply about life, about humanity and about how absurd you see, understand and relate with others.
Re: Obasanjo: One, United Nigeria 'Should Not Be At Any Cost' by banom(m): 12:53pm On Jun 10, 2021
Rugaria:
Funny man! Every single political problem we have in this country today has your imprints on it. This country would have been better if you were not born... 1966, after the coup, Nzeogwu sent you to Lagos to negotiate with Ironsi, you went there and feathered your own nest, inviting Nzeogwu over for a peace deal with Ironsi. Dude was arrested at the airport on arrival. 1975, you knew how blood thirsty Murtala Mohammed was but still organized a coup with him because those of you in the Army that saw yourselves as "the field commanders" during the war, wanted to take charge from your Ogas! Murtala came in and destroyed the Civil Service with his ubiquitous "fight against corruption", then started the mindless desecration of the country with whimsical state creations done without recourse to either ethnic or cultural affinities amongst constituent units. Nigeria has never recovered from this!

You then took over in 1976 and started off by basically eliminating most middle belt officers with trumped up charges! Backdating decrees and summarily executing convicts tried by prejudiced tribunals. That's how the army was handed over to the fulanis. You sealed that off by forcing half baked Shagari on us as the president just to thank the far north for making you president! They will make you a president again in 1999 since you are the only one they can trust with power in the whole of Western Nigeria and again, you handed power back to another fuulani as if they are the only ethnic group in Northern Nigeria! Again, you will resurrect Buhari from the dead and foist him on Nigeria, yet again as the president! That's 3 fulanis you made presidents in one lifetime! You can see how your fulani experiment is working out in paces like Agatu, Iganga and Benin Republic IDP camps! In between all these, you became one of the richest people on earth! Killed thousands in Odi and levelled Zaki Biam! How can such a character be allowed to pontificate on Nigerias problems?

Bro, you deserve an award. See the old fool who contributed to Nigeria's problem talking nonsense. Wisdom don't always come by age.
Re: Obasanjo: One, United Nigeria 'Should Not Be At Any Cost' by April4th(m): 1:09pm On Jun 10, 2021
Useless man, shey you done tire to write letter? Under GEJ government, you were busy writing useless letters. Try it now, that a Fulani janjaweedian ex general is in charge. Nonsense, if He hear peem from your mouth, Kuje maximum straight.

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Re: Obasanjo: One, United Nigeria 'Should Not Be At Any Cost' by AnanseK(m): 2:14pm On Jun 10, 2021
OBJ we understand your position but. But what Igbos are doing specifically for separation in no longer tolerable. Please please and please Sir . Allow the Igbo tribe to have their Biafra.
Re: Obasanjo: One, United Nigeria 'Should Not Be At Any Cost' by oyatz(m): 2:28pm On Jun 10, 2021
Rissimenky:
OBASANJO SAID:



Exact same thing I've been saying on this forum for months. You break up Nigeria, you diminish yourselves into little weak republics like Sierra Leone, with zero guarantee of prosperity.

You are wrong sir.

1) The primary reason for the existence of Nigeria is the protection of the lives of Nigerians and Ensure their holestic development. Nigeria has failed to achieve these objectives.

2) Having a very large country consisting of several Small Nations in one country doesn't necessarily guarantee greatness.

3) Switzerland, Rwanda, Jamaica, Singapore are small countries in different parts of the world that are doing well.

4) Oduduwa Republic, Niger-Delta Republic and Biafran Republic have what it take to excel and will do better than the present Nigeria.


Re: Obasanjo: One, United Nigeria 'Should Not Be At Any Cost' by oyatz(m): 2:29pm On Jun 10, 2021
April4th:
Useless man, shey you done tire to write letter? Under GEJ government, you were busy writing useless letters. Try it now, that a Fulani janjaweedian ex general is in charge. Nonsense, if He hear peem from your mouth, Kuje maximum straight.
I guess you haven't been born in 2018 when Obasanjo wrote a letter to Buhari?
Re: Obasanjo: One, United Nigeria 'Should Not Be At Any Cost' by bull67: 2:33pm On Jun 10, 2021
baba is a greedy man now, he is one of the problem of nigeria. he is benefiting from the country being together. He has shears and properties all around the country.
Re: Obasanjo: One, United Nigeria 'Should Not Be At Any Cost' by April4th(m): 2:45pm On Jun 10, 2021
oyatz:

I guess you haven't been born in 2018 when Obasanjo wrote a letter to Buhari?

Pls stop quoting me if you don’t have anything important to say. Thank you
Re: Obasanjo: One, United Nigeria 'Should Not Be At Any Cost' by Nobody: 2:48pm On Jun 10, 2021
Obasanjo is the last hope of the North. The Yorubas remain the problem of the Southern Nigeria freedom.

Nobody expects Obasanjo to come out publicly and declare support for Oduduwa Republic. That day would be the END of Nigeria. He knows the game is up.

Umaru Dikko told Abiola Presidency is not for the highest bidder in 1983. In 1993, Obasanjo said Abiola is not the Nigeria messiah. Those are the people deciding who controls Nigeria. They brought him out of prison to power as the only trusted person they can give the Presidency power . Obasanjo went to them to plead for Jonathan. He stood as a guarantor for Jonathan.

Obasanjo and other elders in Yoruba land know Nigeria cannot work. They are just waiting for death to come. They know generations behind will break the slavery.

All this his epistles is to win northerners confidence. False confidence. Yorubas call the epistles "AWIJARE " .
Re: Obasanjo: One, United Nigeria 'Should Not Be At Any Cost' by fredoooooo: 3:15pm On Jun 10, 2021
Aremu don put dem for gear again grin cheesy
Re: Obasanjo: One, United Nigeria 'Should Not Be At Any Cost' by ifiokjohn(m): 3:30pm On Jun 10, 2021
[quote author=Ekpeitit post=102570372]I am saying Nigeria should give you Biafra,isn't that what the Igbos want?
Hahahaha.
You will get that Igbo Biafra sooner than you think.[/quo So what if the Aniomas in Asaba, the Etches, Obigbos, the Omumas etc in the south south choose to make one country with their igbo brothers in the Niger delta. What then will you do? Remember those places has oil too.
Will you stop them? Won't that give the Eastern region a road to sea?

Your hatred for the Igbos is just foolishness. And to think you're probably Akwa Ibomites.
Well I'm thankful majority of the people in Akwa ibom love the Igbos.
Re: Obasanjo: One, United Nigeria 'Should Not Be At Any Cost' by ifiokjohn(m): 3:33pm On Jun 10, 2021
bjdon:
If you travel around Nigeria you will see under development everywhere. Dilapidated schools and hospitals, terrible roads, poor sanitation. There are state governors and LG chairmen everywhere doing nothing for their people. This will not change if there is a Biafra, Oduduwa or Arewa republic. The corrupt mentality, the greed, the lack of consideration for the less well off. Its these traits that define the Nigerian today and will define the Biafran, Oduduwan and Arewan tomorrow. Much better to remain part of a United Nigeria and fight to expunge the negative traits. This country can be a super power if enough of us fight for it
When there is a BIAFRA there will be a new constitution where agencies fighting frauds and Corruption will be independent and can't be influence by the President just like the USA. A new law where corrupt individuals will be prosecuted in a shorter time than Nigeria that takes years to prosecute one person.
No one will be above the law..not even Mr President. Also there will be no immunity for anybody
Re: Obasanjo: One, United Nigeria 'Should Not Be At Any Cost' by 9jaRealist: 3:41pm On Jun 10, 2021
Temidayo9:
I disagree with you sir on the issue surrounding already disintegrated Nations that are not doing better, currently, Nigeria happen to be the only country in the world that is being govern with lies from its leaders just like what you posted above,
Nigeria is not 1, and we can never be , this is the hard truth we need to say to ourself.
And more also, South Sudan is far more better than Nigeria of today.

Was with until that last line…
Which South Sudan abegi? Some of you really need to leave the Internet and go out to the real world.
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Re: Obasanjo: One, United Nigeria 'Should Not Be At Any Cost' by 9jaRealist: 3:50pm On Jun 10, 2021
Rugaria:
Funny man! Every single political problem we have in this country today has your imprints on it. This country would have been better if you were not born... 1966, after the coup, Nzeogwu sent you to Lagos to negotiate with Ironsi, you went there and feathered your own nest, inviting Nzeogwu over for a peace deal with Ironsi. Dude was arrested at the airport on arrival. 1975, you knew how blood thirsty Murtala Mohammed was but still organized a coup with him because those of you in the Army that saw yourselves as "the field commanders" during the war, wanted to take charge from your Ogas! Murtala came in and destroyed the Civil Service with his ubiquitous "fight against corruption", then started the mindless desecration of the country with whimsical state creations done without recourse to either ethnic or cultural affinities amongst constituent units. Nigeria has never recovered from this!

You then took over in 1976 and started off by basically eliminating most middle belt officers with trumped up charges! Backdating decrees and summarily executing convicts tried by prejudiced tribunals. That's how the army was handed over to the fulanis. You sealed that off by forcing half baked Shagari on us as the president just to thank the far north for making you president! They will make you a president again in 1999 since you are the only one they can trust with power in the whole of Western Nigeria and again, you handed power back to another fuulani as if they are the only ethnic group in Northern Nigeria! Again, you will resurrect Buhari from the dead and foist him on Nigeria, yet again as the president! That's 3 fulanis you made presidents in one lifetime! You can see how your fulani experiment is working out in paces like Agatu, Iganga and Benin Republic IDP camps! In between all these, you became one of the richest people on earth! Killed thousands in Odi and levelled Zaki Biam! How can such a character be allowed to pontificate on Nigerias problems?

Ask your parents if they prefer today’s Nigeria to Nigeria under OBJ in 1976-79…
I certainly know that I prefer Nigeria from 1999-2003 under OBJ to present-day Nigeria!

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Re: Obasanjo: One, United Nigeria 'Should Not Be At Any Cost' by 9jaRealist: 4:25pm On Jun 10, 2021
Rugaria:
Funny man! Every single political problem we have in this country today has your imprints on it. This country would have been better if you were not born... 1966, after the coup, Nzeogwu sent you to Lagos to negotiate with Ironsi, you went there and feathered your own nest, inviting Nzeogwu over for a peace deal with Ironsi. Dude was arrested at the airport on arrival. 1975, you knew how blood thirsty Murtala Mohammed was but still organized a coup with him because those of you in the Army that saw yourselves as "the field commanders" during the war, wanted to take charge from your Ogas! Murtala came in and destroyed the Civil Service with his ubiquitous "fight against corruption", then started the mindless desecration of the country with whimsical state creations done without recourse to either ethnic or cultural affinities amongst constituent units. Nigeria has never recovered from this!

You then took over in 1976 and started off by basically eliminating most middle belt officers with trumped up charges! Backdating decrees and summarily executing convicts tried by prejudiced tribunals. That's how the army was handed over to the fulanis. You sealed that off by forcing half baked Shagari on us as the president just to thank the far north for making you president! They will make you a president again in 1999 since you are the only one they can trust with power in the whole of Western Nigeria and again, you handed power back to another fuulani as if they are the only ethnic group in Northern Nigeria! Again, you will resurrect Buhari from the dead and foist him on Nigeria, yet again as the president! That's 3 fulanis you made presidents in one lifetime! You can see how your fulani experiment is working out in paces like Agatu, Iganga and Benin Republic IDP camps! In between all these, you became one of the richest people on earth! Killed thousands in Odi and levelled Zaki Biam! How can such a character be allowed to pontificate on Nigerias problems?

Abegi, which of the states created in 1975 (before OBJ btw) was “without recourse to either ethnic or cultural affinities”?
And if said creation was “whimsical”, blame the high-powered state creation panel headed by respected Supreme Court Justice Ayo Irikefe.
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Re: Obasanjo: One, United Nigeria 'Should Not Be At Any Cost' by executive12: 5:39pm On Jun 10, 2021
Obasanjo, call a spade a spade. Speak truth to power and tell the tribalist Buhari to act as President of Nigeria instead of President of Fulanis.
We want a Nigeria of equals not a Nigeria of slaves and masters.
Restructure or disintegrate.
Re: Obasanjo: One, United Nigeria 'Should Not Be At Any Cost' by orisa37: 5:58pm On Jun 10, 2021
COOOOORECT.
Re: Obasanjo: One, United Nigeria 'Should Not Be At Any Cost' by orisa37: 6:02pm On Jun 10, 2021
COOOOORECT.

BUHARI AND THE NASS AND STATES ASSEMBLIES SHOULD SCRAP THE EXCLUSIVE LIST OF THE 1999 CONSTITUTION AND LIMIT FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AUTHORITIES AND RESPONSIBILITIES TO FOREIGN AFFAIRS, MILITARY, ON EQUALITY OF STATES BASIS, AND TREATIES SEALING ONLY.
Re: Obasanjo: One, United Nigeria 'Should Not Be At Any Cost' by executive12: 6:15pm On Jun 10, 2021
Rissimenky:


THEN MOVE TO ANOTHER COUNTRY.

NIGERIA WILL NOT SPLIT UP JUST BECAUSE TRAITORS LIKE YOU EXIST.

You are either ignorant or trying to be foolishly arrogant. We have the right to self determination. You can not force different nationalities to stay together as one country. We have to negotiate our unity. If we can not have agreement, then the country will disintegrate whether you like it or not.
Re: Obasanjo: One, United Nigeria 'Should Not Be At Any Cost' by mccloud224(m): 10:22pm On Jun 10, 2021
Coming from someone who received the armistice of surrender during the Fulani jihad against Biafra.
Re: Obasanjo: One, United Nigeria 'Should Not Be At Any Cost' by DedeNkem: 10:41pm On Jun 10, 2021
Coming from an old ugly fool who permitted the North to create sharia. Should a country that supposed to be "one" have two laws?

The examples he gave were deceitfully presented. E.g the main problem between India and Pakistan is the unsettled territorial issues, not about their split. India has territorial disputes with China, does that mean the two were once under one sovereignty? No.

The Yugoslavia example is false. The splinters countries are happy and aren't at war with each other. In fact, most of the are better than Nigeria!

Also Sudan and South Sudan aren't at war anymore. Both countries are far more peaceful than Nigeria!

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