Igboid:


Yes Biafra war caused lots of issues for Ndiigbo.
It would take a second war to correct things.

Unlike you, I don't believe there's is a political solution to this situation.

We just have to hang on long enough and make sure this final battle will not be one we are forced into at Emergency point.
It should be a well planned generational one. If we fail to put enough resources together, we can hand it over to our children.

We can try playing the political game as temporary measure while we plan the final battle as long term plan.
One we will fight with international allies and enough weapons.

That's my take on this.

Abi a 2nd war. Just like the Germans fought a 2nd war inorder to reclaim their lost territories to France and Britain, only to lose more lands. But I agree with you about fighting with allies of which we arent ready now.
First of all, Biafra must phase out. IPOB, MASSOB, BIM must all be flushed out for a new group that understands the game. Anything that has it's connection to Biafra must die a natural death for a true Igbo stance.

Eastlink:
Abi a 2nd war. Just like the Germans fought a 2nd war inorder to reclaim their lost territories to France and Britain, only to lose more lands.

Germans got overambitious.
They already got all their lands and still had to stupidly March into Russia. That's why they lost more.
And either way, Germans were aggressors in both wars. Ours is/was one of defense.

Igboid:


Germans got overambitious.
They already got all their lands and still had to stupidly March into Russia. That's why they lost more.
And either way, Germans were aggressors in both wars. Ours is/was one of defense.

I agree with you about the over-ambitiousness of the German. Nnamdi Kanu is becoming the aggressor and Hitler in our own case and must be destroyed at all cost.

Eastlink:
Abi a 2nd war. Just like the Germans fought a 2nd war inorder to reclaim their lost territories to France and Britain, only to lose more lands. But I agree with you about fighting with allies of which we arent ready now.
First of all, Biafra must phase out. IPOB, MASSOB, BIM must all be flushed out for a new group that understands the game. Anything that has it's connection to Biafra must die a natural death for a true Igbo stance.

Nature will take it's course on IPOB if they don't restructure and become plainly Igbo. Republic fighting group.
They will simply outlive their usefulness with time the more Igbo commoners understand our history with minorities, the more IPOB or any one promoting Multiethnic BIAFRA in Igboland will become a pariah.


You don't have to worry about that.

Igboid:


Nature will take it's course on IPOB if they don't restructure and become plainly Igbo. Republic fighting group.
They will simply outlive their usefulness with time the more Igbo commoners understand our history with minorities, the more IPOB or any one promoting Multiethnic BIAFRA in Igboland will become a pariah.


You don't have to worry about that.

You still don't understand my point. Biafra will always be a multi-ethnic and faulty agenda regardless of who is spearheading it. Biafra is not about Ndigbo, it was never.

So the earlier this Biafran is discarded for a true Igbo nation with a strategy the better. And when that new stance emerges, it must involve in local politics as the Scottish party of Scotland and that of Wales is doing in Britain.

Eastlink:
I agree with you about the over-ambitiousness of the German. Nnamdi Kanu is becoming the aggressor and Hitler in our own case and must be destroyed at all cost.

More like he doesn't even know his Right from his Left and worse still has brainwashed many Igbo youths with his ignorance.

I see IPOB members calling Ijaws and minorities "our brothers", I get mad. These people are living in a dangerous bubble fantasy world that if not well handled would blow and hurt millions of Igbos again.
You hear stupid sayings about how Ubiaja ( in Edo ) are Igbos.
You begin to wonder what is fueling these people folly.
I mean from Onitsha to Ubiaja should be about 2k and 2 hrs journey.
What does it take for them to visit that place and see that the people are Esans(Edoid language) ?

You insult Hitler calling him MNK.
Hitler understood the Dynamics of power and history of groups around Germany.
You listen to IPOB and MNK, and you see these people don't even have a clue of the Dynamics and history between Ndiigbo and minorities.

It's annoying. How can you lead when you are this ignorant of your environment?

Eastlink:
You still don't understand my point. Biafra will always be a multi-ethnic and faulty agenda regardless of who is spearheading it. Biafra is not about Ndigbo, it was never.

So the earlier this Biafran is discarded for a true Igbo nation with a strategy the better. And wven at the the new stance must involve in local politics as the Scottish party of Scotland and that of Wales is doing in Britain.

Biafra is and will always be Igbo.

It's part and parcel of Igbo history.

I don't think we should discard the name Biafra.
I think we should keep it, but redefine and refine it to read:IGBO ONLY.

And since other Minorities who played part in the history of first Biafra had dissociated from it.
We will do a good job erasing any part of history that involves non Igbo participation in Biafra.

BIAFRA as a name evokes patriotism in the heart of Igbos. It's more than just a name why should any one want to throw that away?

We shouldn't discard it.

Igboid:


Biafra is and will always be Igbo.

It's part and parcel of Igbo history.

I don't think we should discard the name Biafra.
I think we should keep it, but redefine and refine it to read:IGBO ONLY.

And since other Minorities who played part in the history of first Biafra had dissociated from it.
We will do a good job erasing any part of history that involves non Igbo participation in Biafra.

BIAFRA as a name evokes patriotism in the heart of Igbos. It's more than just a name.

We shouldn't discard it.

This is one problem with you people that has made you continue to loose the prize. Ojukwu's Biafra from his Ahiara manifesto exudes black pride and freedom of the black race. But Nnamdi Kanu's Biafra is all about Judaism.

If you want us to keep Biafra then you should get ready for more controversies. More scammers hijacking it, more illiterates fine-tunning it to soothe their ego and the likes. Nothing stops anyone from honouring the fallen Biafra heroes, but one thing contant in life is change. A new name but the old Biafran flag can be maintained.

Eastlink:
This is one problem with you people that has made you continue to loose the prize. Ojukwu's Biafra from his Ahiara manifesto exudes black pride and freedom of the black race. But Nnamdi Kanu's Biafra is all about Judaism.

If you want us to keep Biafra then you should get ready for more controversies. More scammers hijacking it, more illiterates fine-tunning it to soothe their ego and the likes. Nothing stops anyone from honouring the fallen Biafra heroes, but one thing contant in life is change. A new name but the old Biafran flag can be maintained.

Biafra name is not the problem.

The boundary can easily be modified to read : IGBO ONLY.
Afterall, MNK and IPOB is not even using the 1967 map.
They are including any one whose mama "tie two wrapper" , which include Igala, Idoma , Urhobo, Isoko, and who knows who else

The name is not the issue. The leader, objective, vision, goals and method, are the problems.

Don't get it twisted.

Igboid:


Biafra name is not the problem.

The boundary can easily be modified to read : IGBO ONLY.
Afterall, MNK and IPOB is not even using the 1967 map.
They are including any one whose mama "tie two wrapper" , which include Igala, Idoma , Urhobo, Isoko, and who knows who else

The name is not the issue. The leader, objective, vision, goes and method, are the problems.

Don't get it twisted.

Ok no problem if you say so.

For those who make the ridiculously infantile though comical claim that Ikwerre was Igbo before the war, but started changing their names and denying their so called 'Igboness' after the war, why did the Ojukwu led government appoint Ikwerre representatives among the minorities to the eastern consultative assembly?

Lies could be told a thousand times but would never outshine the truth.

Eastlink:
Oya sorry. Apologies

you see how foolish you made yourself look.. Hate won't get you far but you don't listen.. Every time Cho Cho cho

Tranquill:
For those who make the ridiculously infantile though comical claim that Ikwerre was Igbo before the war, but started changing their names and denying their so called 'Igboness' after the war, why did the Ojukwu led government appoint Ikwerre representatives among the minorities to the eastern consultative assembly?

Lies could be told a thousand times but would never outshine the truth.

What are you on about?
Every county had representatives in the Eastern consultative assembly. Even Igbo counties.
Why should Ikwerre county not have a representative too?

Anyway, are you admitting that there was indeed an Eastern consultative assembly with members from every single ethnicity and clan in Eastern region who Ojukwu consulted before Biafra was declared?
Because the usual narratives from your likes is that Ndiigbo forced you into Biafra without consultation.

Igboid:


What are you on about?
Every county had representatives in the Eastern consultative assembly. Even Igbo counties.
Why should Ikwerre county not have a representative too?

Anyway, are you admitting that there was indeed an Eastern consultative assembly with members from every single ethnicity and clan in Eastern region who Ojukwu consulted before Biafra was declared?
Because the usual narratives from your likes is that Ndiigbo forced you into Biafra without consultation.

Oga stop clowning and read the paper again. Even before the war, the Igbo controlled Eastern government recognized Ikwerre among the minorities and not as Igbo. Ikwerre never identified as Igbo. They had minority representatives and Igbo representatives. Infact the person that raised the famous 'minority question' at the assembly was the late Ikwerre lawyer Wobidike Wonodi (SAN).

It was this question that actually made some Igbo leaders to start insulting the minorities exposing the evil agenda they planned if the war succeeded, that made some minorities to rethink their initial support. People like KO Mbadiwe were boasting saying things like "who the hell are the minorities"? Interestingly, he was among the Igbos that used the money meant to buy weapons for the war, to buy houses in London.

Ojukwu was using the assembly as a smokescreen. He never took decisions based on their opinions or recommendations.

Tranquill:


Oga stop clowning and read the paper again. Even before the war, the Igbo controlled Eastern government recognized Ikwerre among the minorities and not as Igbo. Ikwerre never identified as Igbo. They had minority representatives and Igbo representatives. Infact the person that raised the famous 'minority question' at the assembly was the late Ikwerre lawyer Wobidike Wonodi (SAN).

It was this question that actually made some Igbo leaders to start insulting the minorities exposing the evil agenda they planned if the war succeeded, that made some minorities to rethink their initial support. People like KO Mbadiwe were boasting saying things like "who the hell are the minorities"? Interestingly, he was among the Igbos that used the money meant to buy weapons for the war, to buy houses in London.

Ojukwu was using the assembly as a smokescreen. He never took decisions based on their opinions or recommendations.

You are just talking nonsense as usual. You are not making any sense as usual.

No time in pre Civil war Nigeria was Ikwerre referred to as non Igbo by Igbos and even colonial masters.
If you say otherwise, post a single pre 1970 document where Ikwerres were addressed as anything other than Ikwerre-Ibo, like Ngwa was Ngwa-Ibo, Ndoki as Ndoki-Ibo, etc.
Just post one!

Ikwerre, Ekpeye, Ogba were clearly recognized as Igbos who were in Minority province, likewise Izzi and Ezza, and Ikwo who were in Ogoja province.

As for your stupid story of KO. Mbadiwe saying who the hell are minorities, can you provide a verifiable source for that?
I know that all you inferiority complex suffering people know about is to make up lies against Ndiigbo to justify your low esteem driven Igbo hate.

4. The Rivers Province …includes the two divisions of Brass and Degema, both overwhelmingly Ijaw, and the Ogoni Division. The former Rivers Division also includes over 300,000 Ibos of whom 250,000 are in Ahoada Division and 45,000 in Port Harcourt. Port Harcourt is a town of recent growth and of rapidly increasing importance; it is built on land that blonged originally to an outlying branch of the Ibo tribe, the Diobus, but is largely inhabited by the Ibos from the interior who have come to trade or seek employment….Of the total 747,000 in the Rivers province, 305,000 are Ibos, 240,000 are Ijaws and 156,000 are Ogonis.”

5. “The strip to the south of the Ibo block, is physically, divided by a block of Ibo territory, tipped by the important Ibo town of Port Harcourt and tribally divided between the Ijaws and the Ogonis.”

6. “In the whole of this non-Ibo area there is present in varying degree some fear of being over-run, commercially and politically, by the Ibos….. if Ahoada and Port Harcourt, which are really Ibo, are considered with the solid centre of Ibo population, there are 54 seats for the Ibo area and 30 for COR (Calabar, Ogoja and Rivers) in (Eastern Regional House of Assembly).”

This is how Willink report described Ikwerre (Diobu) and Ekpeye/Ogba (Ahoada) clans.
As Ibos!

Tranquill:


Oga stop clowning and read the paper again. Even before the war, the Igbo controlled Eastern government recognized Ikwerre among the minorities and not as Igbo. Ikwerre never identified as Igbo. They had minority representatives and Igbo representatives. Infact the person that raised the famous 'minority question' at the assembly was the late Ikwerre lawyer Wobidike Wonodi (SAN).

It was this question that actually made some Igbo leaders to start insulting the minorities exposing the evil agenda they planned if the war succeeded, that made some minorities to rethink their initial support. People like KO Mbadiwe were boasting saying things like "who the hell are the minorities"? Interestingly, he was among the Igbos that used the money meant to buy weapons for the war, to buy houses in London.

Ojukwu was using the assembly as a smokescreen. He never took decisions based on their opinions or recommendations.

All fallacy. Bring evidence to back your claims and not beer parlour gist. When you tell an injurous lie as the above, bring up evidence and stop these outdated my father told me stories. A lot of independent reports and articles has proven the above stories as false.

This topic remains relevant.

Bkkay.
I hope you didn't miss this thread.

While Akintola was used to destabilize the Western region by Balewa and Saraduna. Adaka Boro and Harold Biriye were chosen for same role in the East.
And they only succeeded because of lack of attention to details by first of all, Zik and Okpara. Then later by Aguiyi Ironsi.

The modern Igbo generation must do better.

Igboid:
Bkkay.
I hope you didn't miss this thread.

While Adekunle was used to destabilize the Western region by Balewa and Saraduna. Adaka Boro and Harold Biriye were chosen for same role in the East.
And they only succeeded because of lack of attention to details by first of all, Zik and Okpara. Then later by Aguiyi Ironsi.

The modern Igbo generation must do better.

Ignorance and stupidity is when an average Igbo person think that these people are friends.
I mean the same people that are holding Igbo coastal towns hostage.
The same people that are actively encroaching on Igbo soil in modern ages.
The same people that their modern existence as a group is as a result of bastardised Igbo coastal history.

Multi-Ethnic Biafra is a dream born out of ignorance and personal greed.