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Re: Primate Ayodele: Adeboye, Kumuyi, Oyedepo Caused Hatred, Envy In Christendom by rainluv: 11:15pm On Jul 11
I think this is even an unfair judgement on Prophet Tbj

When exactly did he say he was born again from the womb? Or is this a clear case of misjudgement?

Having listened to his preachings,he said
"This is the work I was born to do"

How does this two relate?
Re: Primate Ayodele: Adeboye, Kumuyi, Oyedepo Caused Hatred, Envy In Christendom by rainluv: 11:27pm On Jul 11
edoairways:

The bible say let the dead bury the dead

"Blessed are those who mourn, for they shall be comforted"

"The Lord is close to the brokenhearted and saves those who are crushed in spirit"

These pages of your Bible were torn off
Re: Primate Ayodele: Adeboye, Kumuyi, Oyedepo Caused Hatred, Envy In Christendom by greggng: 11:32pm On Jul 11
youngpresidooo:
mention one prophet in this dispensation that is not born again.
I have explained it many times that we are in the time of Grace . No one can come and say I am this and that without being born again.
It is a path everyone must pass.
All the five fold ministry is for the edification of the church. How do you edify the church that you never a born again?


I want to know ...do people carry the word born again on their fore head to show that they are born again ? Is born again different from accepting Jesus Christ as your personal Lord and saviour ? Is there a format for this? Are you saying if I sit down in my house and pray to God and accept Jesus as my Lord and saviour ...and believe in Jesus ...does it mean I am not born again..? Do I need to dramatize it? I have seen people giving there life to Christ in every church the go...is important to know that aside being born again....which mean accepting Jesus as your Lord and saviour ...you 've to be Christ like....by Christ like...you 've to practicalise all the teachings of Christ...Only a blind man will not notice that in jb Joshua.....and for those mentioning juju....let them know that no juju can make you extend helping hands to others ...that is one fact about juju ...that's why majority don't get involve cos ...what's the usefulness of your money if you can't extend it to the needy ...and the moment you do that...the juju takes your life
Re: Primate Ayodele: Adeboye, Kumuyi, Oyedepo Caused Hatred, Envy In Christendom by staphcures: 11:34pm On Jul 11
Mikecold:
Everybody must sha bring in Adeboye name to shine but the man has been on his lane

Primate Ayodele that keeps looking for attention and been controversial has not talked about himself that is an irrelevant politician tool neither a CAN or PFN member

Last time i checked these men have no public grievance with T.B Joshua except Okotie and they do not occupy CAN or PFN board
. He is not looking for Attention he is already popular.Don't twist it ,They have grievance and they creates Lots of hatred , Action Speaks louder than Voice they were forced to show Condolence to him and they refused to attend His Funeral ,They wouldn't have Avoided it if it were to be another Major Pastor
Re: Primate Ayodele: Adeboye, Kumuyi, Oyedepo Caused Hatred, Envy In Christendom by olmoRoc: 11:37pm On Jul 11
Re: Primate Ayodele: Adeboye, Kumuyi, Oyedepo Caused Hatred, Envy In Christendom by Timblaze(m): 11:40pm On Jul 11
safesurfer:
Then y'all will turn around and accuse them of hypocrisy if they attend the funeral. We sabi una style. The thing is, these mega pastors have nothing for, or against the late TB Joshua. But you can't associate with a person you can't vouch for. Adeboye, Kumuyi, Oyedepo, Eneche, Olukoya etc all mingle with one another, because to a certain extent, they can vouch for themselves. Even Pastor Chris that collaborated with him just once, quickly dissociated himself from him.
Re: Primate Ayodele: Adeboye, Kumuyi, Oyedepo Caused Hatred, Envy In Christendom by rainluv: 11:43pm On Jul 11
greggng:



I want to know ...do people carry the word born again on their fore head to show that they are born again ? Is born again different from accepting Jesus Christ as your personal Lord and saviour ? Is there a format for this? Are you saying if I sit down in my house and pray to God and accept Jesus as my Lord and saviour ...and believe in Jesus ...does it mean I am not born again..? Do I need to dramatize it? I have seen people giving there life to Christ in every church the go...is important to know that aside being born again....which mean accepting Jesus as your Lord and saviour ...you 've to be Christ like....by Christ like...you 've to practicalise all the teachings of Christ...Only a blind man will not notice that in jb Joshua.....and for those mentioning juju....let them know that no juju can make you extend helping hands to others ...that is one fact about juju ...that's why majority don't get involve cos ...what's the usefulness of your money if you can't extend it to the needy ...and the moment you do that...the juju takes your life

God bless you
I only remember him saying "this is the work I was born to do" NOT
"I was born again from my mother's womb"

They are even asking for his spiritual father, mother, daughter,son, brother and sister including spiritual cousins and nephews

O ma se o!

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Re: Primate Ayodele: Adeboye, Kumuyi, Oyedepo Caused Hatred, Envy In Christendom by fof1: 12:16am On Jul 12
Heyzeezee:


https://www.google.com/amp/s/dailypost.ng/2021/07/11/tb-joshua-pastor-adeboye-oyedepo-kumuyi-caused-hatred-envy-among-church-leaders-primate-ayodele/%3futm_term=Autofeed&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook&amp=1


This is Obviously NOT TRUE that I know as a Christian over the Decades,Pls. This assertion is Irrelevant and Needless, Pls. So should be disregarded entirely.
Re: Primate Ayodele: Adeboye, Kumuyi, Oyedepo Caused Hatred, Envy In Christendom by Abujason: 1:09am On Jul 12
Re: Primate Ayodele: Adeboye, Kumuyi, Oyedepo Caused Hatred, Envy In Christendom by Titech(m): 4:27am On Jul 12
I really didn't want to comment but I was forced to.. I think your Bible says do not judge others rather let them to God.

One thing I have always said is many times our waging tongues will be the reason many of us won't make heaven and still won't succeed on earth.

What's your proof they bought it with offering money? Does being in money shut the persons they should be. Do to query Jeff Bezos for owning anything? Do why the men used by God.

Every servant will account to the master, if we minded our business more and tame our tongues, I am sure we will have a better insight of God that closing doors for the sake of our dishonor.

And as regards the university. Please if you can't afford it, pray for God's grace to. Only poor mental people complain, pay attention and realise those that attend don't complain only those that already concluded they can't afford it till death will.

Tame your tongue, don't be swift to speak, what if they sent condolence via mails, what if they had representatives, what if something happened, rather than just assume, its safe to be mute.

Papa Adeboye for one is very very humble, hope you know TB Joshua didn't attend pastor Adeboye's sons burial and that didn't bring attention... Please let's watch what we say.
Re: Primate Ayodele: Adeboye, Kumuyi, Oyedepo Caused Hatred, Envy In Christendom by Hassan88(m): 5:49am On Jul 12
And These are called men of God!
Re: Primate Ayodele: Adeboye, Kumuyi, Oyedepo Caused Hatred, Envy In Christendom by youngpresidooo: 5:56am On Jul 12
greggng:



I want to know ...do people carry the word born again on their fore head to show that they are born again ? Is born again different from accepting Jesus Christ as your personal Lord and saviour ? Is there a format for this? Are you saying if I sit down in my house and pray to God and accept Jesus as my Lord and saviour ...and believe in Jesus ...does it mean I am not born again..? Do I need to dramatize it? I have seen people giving there life to Christ in every church the go...is important to know that aside being born again....which mean accepting Jesus as your Lord and saviour ...you 've to be Christ like....by Christ like...you 've to practicalise all the teachings of Christ...Only a blind man will not notice that in jb Joshua.....and for those mentioning juju....let them know that no juju can make you extend helping hands to others ...that is one fact about juju ...that's why majority don't get involve cos ...what's the usefulness of your money if you can't extend it to the needy ...and the moment you do that...the juju takes your life
born again is believing in your heart and confessing that Jesus died and rose again for the remission of our sin. You can do it personally. It is an experience that happens in ones life and being shared when asked. You can't just tell me you are a christian n I ask you when did you become a Christian and you tell me from your mother's womb. Born again comes from conviction that's why we can't say anyine is a christian by birth. Christianity is not like anyother religion that you just enter because you are born into it. You must be convinced that this is what it is and what I want to be n I am in for it. That's why the need for believing n confessing is paramount. Even the bible talks about confessing with your mouth and believing in your heart. It is not a subconscious thing . It is done consciously. Even if you are born into the most holy pastors family if you have never for once done it in your life either secretly or openly no one cares about how u do it. You are not born again.
N something must have convinced you to do it and that is why we ask about the testimony of your redemption.
Remember I said conviction. You must have been convinced by the holy spirit. So you can't come and say I just woke up n say I am a christian. If I go ahead n say why are u a Christian , what makes you think you should be a christian, don't tell me because I am burn into it or story from what a pastor tells u. You must have your own different story. Many calls themselves a christian but are not. Because they were never convinced. This same set of people could have been a muslim if they were born into a muslim family. Christianity is borne out of conviction and believing n confessing it with ur mouth.
Re: Primate Ayodele: Adeboye, Kumuyi, Oyedepo Caused Hatred, Envy In Christendom by youngpresidooo: 5:58am On Jul 12
greggng:



I want to know ...do people carry the word born again on their fore head to show that they are born again ? Is born again different from accepting Jesus Christ as your personal Lord and saviour ? Is there a format for this? Are you saying if I sit down in my house and pray to God and accept Jesus as my Lord and saviour ...and believe in Jesus ...does it mean I am not born again..? Do I need to dramatize it? I have seen people giving there life to Christ in every church the go...is important to know that aside being born again....which mean accepting Jesus as your Lord and saviour ...you 've to be Christ like....by Christ like...you 've to practicalise all the teachings of Christ...Only a blind man will not notice that in jb Joshua.....and for those mentioning juju....let them know that no juju can make you extend helping hands to others ...that is one fact about juju ...[b]that's why majority don't get involve cos ...what's the usefulness of your money [/b]if you can't extend it to the needy ...and the moment you do that...the juju takes your life
this is not true. You only assuming. Infact they give more. Just that they hardly give to their family members but not outsiders
Re: Primate Ayodele: Adeboye, Kumuyi, Oyedepo Caused Hatred, Envy In Christendom by youngpresidooo: 6:01am On Jul 12
rainluv:


God bless you
I only remember him saying "this is the work I was born to do" NOT
"I was born again from my mother's womb"

They are even asking for his spiritual father, mother, daughter,son, brother and sister including spiritual cousins and nephews

O ma se o!
that was his reply when he wanted to join can and PFN.
And that was why he wasn't accepted .
See can don't care about your doctine , PFN does care about your doctrine but not CAN. What all of them care about is if truly you are a christian and it is a fundamental thing to have a testimony of your godly experience like what convinced you and when did you take the decision
Re: Primate Ayodele: Adeboye, Kumuyi, Oyedepo Caused Hatred, Envy In Christendom by Sunsets: 6:25am On Jul 12
I needn't do this but I had to in order to show how ignorant and sycophantic some of you can be.
youngpresidooo:
show me where adeboye sent condolence to Ajumobi

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Re: Primate Ayodele: Adeboye, Kumuyi, Oyedepo Caused Hatred, Envy In Christendom by Sunsets: 6:29am On Jul 12
Will you keep kwayet!
youngpresidooo:
please back it up with links

Re: Primate Ayodele: Adeboye, Kumuyi, Oyedepo Caused Hatred, Envy In Christendom by Sunsets: 6:35am On Jul 12
https://www.thecable.ng/rewind-what-matters-is-how-well-you-lived-how-tb-joshua-mourned-adeboyes-son-weeks-ago/amp This sis TB Joshua publicly sympathising with the Adeboyes.
youngpresidooo:
please back it up with links
Re: Primate Ayodele: Adeboye, Kumuyi, Oyedepo Caused Hatred, Envy In Christendom by SIRTee15: 7:22am On Jul 12
bezimo:


Humanity nonsense B.S.my foot. The biggest giving for non-profit organization in Nigeria comes from Pentecostal churches..

Winners Chapel for instance gave wey more than even govt to the koma hill disaster/ Lagos cantonment explosions as acknowledge by world red cross as the biggest giver. No non-profit organization in Nigeria can rival the big Pentecostal churches when it comes to humanity showing by giving back to the society. Do you research..

You fools your hatred for the big churches and their pastors don't change shit.

Some of you TB Joshua supporters are becoming really stupid nuisance talking real chaff.

Not only are u deprived of humanity but u also lack sense.
In character n behaviour, u are no different from road side Agbero...very uncouth n untrained.
For your info...the Catholic church is the largest charitable organisation in nigeria n worldwide. They own hundreds of hospitals that are heavily subsidised for the general public- Catholic members or not. Now thats humanity.
U will do well to fight the demonic foul fiend living in you b4 replying me.
Re: Primate Ayodele: Adeboye, Kumuyi, Oyedepo Caused Hatred, Envy In Christendom by MICHEALADEX(m): 8:00am On Jul 12
Mikecold:
Yes pastor Chris oyakhilome own should send a signal

Everyone is quick to castigate but fail to remember Chris was his friend at one time and suddenly locked up later on

They didn't fight, they didn't have public issue yet Chris is not one of those in the camp of any G'O

He is on his own, could it be there is something they all see that we don't?

Apart from Okotie is there anyone openly castigating T.B Joshua, so why do some people think it's by force to be mixed with him or send him condolence just to make them happy, they are not in enemity with Joshua Na.

Can't people just stay on their own again

Amokachi was once his personal assistant why did amokachi not show up for his funeral?

Why did those old time people that started his ministry together with him not come to his funeral?

Could it be they know how it all began behind scenes

Don't be carried away with the outward even the devil can translate into an angel of light

He had many early workers who said many things against him, could all of them be wrong, was he the only pastor that he kept getting those controversies?

They say the big men of God were jealous of him, was just one church in ikotun enough to threaten ministers who already had congregation across the nation.



Adeboye revealed TB Joshua tried to kill him please search for that tape

https://www.olumuyiwa.com.ng/2021/06/25/shocking-tb-joshua-tries-to-kill-me-pastor-adeboye-reveals-video/
Re: Primate Ayodele: Adeboye, Kumuyi, Oyedepo Caused Hatred, Envy In Christendom by youngpresidooo: 8:16am On Jul 12
Sunsets:
I needn't do this but I had to in order to show how ignorant and sycophantic some of you can be.
ok noted
Re: Primate Ayodele: Adeboye, Kumuyi, Oyedepo Caused Hatred, Envy In Christendom by youngpresidooo: 8:29am On Jul 12
MICHEALADEX:



Adeboye revealed TB Joshua tried to kill him please search for that tape

https://www.olumuyiwa.com.ng/2021/06/25/shocking-tb-joshua-tries-to-kill-me-pastor-adeboye-reveals-video/
I don't know if it is true but what if it was true?
Re: Primate Ayodele: Adeboye, Kumuyi, Oyedepo Caused Hatred, Envy In Christendom by youngpresidooo: 8:40am On Jul 12
See not only Tb joshua do I have issues with but what makes his own peculiar is that born again thing.
There are many ministers of God in quote I just reserve my comment with.
Like mercy mercy tv , pastor iginla,pastor fufueyin, bushiri, alph luk.
Like I have heard this guy's preach heresies that makes me doubt.
I will give an example, there was a crusade that a pastor was invited to one of the pentecostal church. The pastor started his message with a testimony,that a man who was a womanizer couldn't have sex again because a lady tied his erection. The man claimed to pray for him, and after some days he said he ran to him that he has healed that that morning he got an erection. What baffled me was that the pastor told the man to go and still try the erected penis on another lady to show he has fully been healed and come back for testimony.
This said man is not married o. You saved someone and said he should go back to fornicate to proof that he is healed?
Even if you are fake and have known christ before you will know that that is wrong and won't say that on the pulpit but because you never even knew God and don't even know what is wrong or right. I remember leaving the church immediately before someone will pass a wrong spirit into my body after that sign. Of all the miracle of Jesus, go and sin no more.. not go and continue with your sin.
Re: Primate Ayodele: Adeboye, Kumuyi, Oyedepo Caused Hatred, Envy In Christendom by lookingfly: 8:55am On Jul 12
stifej:
You're so quick to believed any nonsense about pastor Adeboye that it didn't occur to you that you watched a manipulated video done by some mischievous makers just to promote their unholy agenda. Bro God will have mercy on u. But the said video is edited. You guys should learn to make some deep findings before supporting what you know Nada about.
how do you mean manipulated video......it seems you play the games of this present regime by claiming videos are doctored, if you still don't believe that video with all the proof in there, then i must say you're blinded by your religious fanaticism.....let's watch
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ITb-x8m49Y
Re: Primate Ayodele: Adeboye, Kumuyi, Oyedepo Caused Hatred, Envy In Christendom by IgweBUIKE1(m): 9:15am On Jul 12
Investorlex:

His not looking for attention,has a deeper life member i have seen what the group pastors/leaders do to some of the congregation members (IN THE SENSE THAT SOME ARE NOT FINANCIALLY STABLE SO THEY CAN’T HOLD LEADERSHIP POSITIONS IN CHURCH WERE YOU PAY TITHE & OFFERING & WHICH THEY HAVE BEEN MEMBERS FOR A LONG PERIOD)
if you re not happy at deeperlife. ..pls leave..I think pastor kumuy life is an exemplary life and he condemn leader or coordinator that abuse members and besides they have basics of holding position in the Church..is not even like they pay church workers that are not full time so what's your Point...don't allow tb matter make you loose guard. Am very sure you re part of the people that called him fake when he was living
Re: Primate Ayodele: Adeboye, Kumuyi, Oyedepo Caused Hatred, Envy In Christendom by youngpresidooo: 9:35am On Jul 12
lookingfly:
how do you mean manipulated video......it seems you play the games of this present regime by claiming videos are doctored, if you still don't believe that video with all the proof in there, then i must say you're blinded by your religious fanaticism.....let's watch
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ITb-x8m49Y
sorry what is wrong in paying tithe
Re: Primate Ayodele: Adeboye, Kumuyi, Oyedepo Caused Hatred, Envy In Christendom by laughitall(m): 9:57am On Jul 12
cassidy1996:
Na only GOD know who dey serve am

that mod that banned me, you are lucky today is Sunday, try it on Friday .
nothing go happen
Re: Primate Ayodele: Adeboye, Kumuyi, Oyedepo Caused Hatred, Envy In Christendom by rainluv: 10:58am On Jul 12
youngpresidooo:
that was his reply when he wanted to join can and PFN.
And that was why he wasn't accepted .
See can don't care about your doctine , PFN does care about your doctrine but not CAN. What all of them care about is if truly you are a christian and it is a fundamental thing to have a testimony of your godly experience like what convinced you and when did you take the decision

Tbj wanted to join CAN and PFN?

I'm done with you cheesy
Re: Primate Ayodele: Adeboye, Kumuyi, Oyedepo Caused Hatred, Envy In Christendom by ogbologbo1000(m): 11:10am On Jul 12
Truth is bitter!
Re: Primate Ayodele: Adeboye, Kumuyi, Oyedepo Caused Hatred, Envy In Christendom by Investorlex(m): 11:40am On Jul 12
IgweBUIKE1:
if you re not happy at deeperlife. ..pls leave..I think pastor kumuy life is an exemplary life and he condemn leader or coordinator that abuse members and besides they have basics of holding position in the Church..is not even like they pay church workers that are not full time so what's your Point...don't allow tb matter make you loose guard. Am very sure you re part of the people that called him fake when he was living
Lol,call fake ke.Christianity is btw u n ur God
Re: Primate Ayodele: Adeboye, Kumuyi, Oyedepo Caused Hatred, Envy In Christendom by youngpresidooo: 12:26pm On Jul 12
IgweBUIKE1:
if you re not happy at deeperlife. ..pls leave..I think pastor kumuy life is an exemplary life and he condemn leader or coordinator that abuse members and besides they have basics of holding position in the Church..is not even like they pay church workers that are not full time so what's your Point...don't allow tb matter make you loose guard. Am very sure you re part of the people that called him fake when he was living
this was the only reason they refuse to accept him.
Born again story that's all.
No hatred anywhere or you must have a mentor story

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