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God Never Rest, It's Biblical Error by Biodun556(m): 12:43am On Jul 14, 2021
Six Days?

The Qur'an states that "Allah created the heavens and the earth, and all that is between them, in six days" (7:54). While on the surface this might seem similar to the account related in the Bible, there are some important distinctions.

The verses that mention "six days" use the Arabic word "youm" (day). This word appears several other times in the Qur'an, each denoting a different measurement of time. In one case, the measure of a day is equated with 50,000 years (70:4), whereas another verse states that "a day in the sight of your Lord is like 1,000 years of your reckoning" (22:47). The word "youm" is thus understood, within the Qur'an, to be a long period of time -- an era or eon. Therefore, Muslims interpret the description of a "six day" creation as six distinct periods or eons. The length of these periods is not precisely defined, nor are the specific developments that took place during each period.

After completing the Creation, the Qur'an describes that Allah "settled Himself upon the Throne" (57:4) to oversee His work. A distinct point is made to counter the Biblical idea of a day of rest: "We created the heavens and the earth and all that is between them in six days, nor did any sense of weariness touch Us" (50:38).

Allah is never "done" with His work, because the process of creation is ongoing. Each new child who is born, every seed that sprouts into a sapling, every new species that appears on earth, is part of the ongoing process of Allah's creation. "He it is Who created the heavens and the earth in six days, then established Himself on the Throne. He knows what enters within the heart of the earth, and what comes forth out of it, what comes down from heaven, and what mounts up to it. And He is with you wherever you may be. And Allah sees well all that you do" (57:4).

The Qur'anic account of creation is in line with modern scientific thought about the development of the universe and life on earth. Muslims acknowledge that life developed over a long period of time, but see Allah's power behind it all. Descriptions of creation in the Qur'an are set in context to remind the readers of Allah's majesty and wisdom. "What is the matter with you, that you are not conscious of Allah's majesty, seeing that it is He Who has created you in diverse stages? See you not how Allah has created the seven heavens one above another, and made the moon a light in their midst, and made the sun as a (glorious) lamp? And Allah has produced you from the earth, growing (gradually)" (71:13-17).
Re: God Never Rest, It's Biblical Error by Bishopkingsley(m): 1:18am On Jul 14, 2021
Biodun556:

Six Days?

The Qur'an states that "Allah created the heavens and the earth, and all that is between them, in six days" (7:54). While on the surface this might seem similar to the account related in the Bible, there are some important distinctions.

The verses that mention "six days" use the Arabic word "youm" (day). This word appears several other times in the Qur'an, each denoting a different measurement of time. In one case, the measure of a day is equated with 50,000 years (70:4), whereas another verse states that "a day in the sight of your Lord is like 1,000 years of your reckoning" (22:47). The word "youm" is thus understood, within the Qur'an, to be a long period of time -- an era or eon. Therefore, Muslims interpret the description of a "six day" creation as six distinct periods or eons. The length of these periods is not precisely defined, nor are the specific developments that took place during each period.

After completing the Creation, the Qur'an describes that Allah "settled Himself upon the Throne" (57:4) to oversee His work. A distinct point is made to counter the Biblical idea of a day of rest: "We created the heavens and the earth and all that is between them in six days, nor did any sense of weariness touch Us" (50:38).

Allah is never "done" with His work, because the process of creation is ongoing. Each new child who is born, every seed that sprouts into a sapling, every new species that appears on earth, is part of the ongoing process of Allah's creation. "He it is Who created the heavens and the earth in six days, then established Himself on the Throne. He knows what enters within the heart of the earth, and what comes forth out of it, what comes down from heaven, and what mounts up to it. And He is with you wherever you may be. And Allah sees well all that you do" (57:4).

The Qur'anic account of creation is in line with modern scientific thought about the development of the universe and life on earth. Muslims acknowledge that life developed over a long period of time, but see Allah's power behind it all. Descriptions of creation in the Qur'an are set in context to remind the readers of Allah's majesty and wisdom. "What is the matter with you, that you are not conscious of Allah's majesty, seeing that it is He Who has created you in diverse stages? See you not how Allah has created the seven heavens one above another, and made the moon a light in their midst, and made the sun as a (glorious) lamp? And Allah has produced you from the earth, growing (gradually)" (71:13-17).

The question you should have asked is what does God rest mean since you know God does not sleep or slumber or rest

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Re: God Never Rest, It's Biblical Error by Enskynelson(m): 2:20am On Jul 14, 2021
This article and the likes are the reasons Muslims are often pitched against Christians. Why can't you just face your front instead of coming with counter posts against another religion? We keep breeding hatreds thinking we are showing our religion is better. OP, people like you are the reasons we have terrorists around the world. If you are a Muslim, there are a million and others things you can preach without having to go down this same road which many have gone but ended up creating great walls of divide.
Re: God Never Rest, It's Biblical Error by Bishopkingsley(m): 3:01am On Jul 14, 2021
Biodun556:

Six Days?

The Qur'an states that "Allah created the heavens and the earth, and all that is between them, in six days" (7:54). While on the surface this might seem similar to the account related in the Bible, there are some important distinctions.

The verses that mention "six days" use the Arabic word "youm" (day). This word appears several other times in the Qur'an, each denoting a different measurement of time. In one case, the measure of a day is equated with 50,000 years (70:4), whereas another verse states that "a day in the sight of your Lord is like 1,000 years of your reckoning" (22:47). The word "youm" is thus understood, within the Qur'an, to be a long period of time -- an era or eon. Therefore, Muslims interpret the description of a "six day" creation as six distinct periods or eons. The length of these periods is not precisely defined, nor are the specific developments that took place during each period.

After completing the Creation, the Qur'an describes that Allah "settled Himself upon the Throne" (57:4) to oversee His work. A distinct point is made to counter the Biblical idea of a day of rest: "We created the heavens and the earth and all that is between them in six days, nor did any sense of weariness touch Us" (50:38).

Allah is never "done" with His work, because the process of creation is ongoing. Each new child who is born, every seed that sprouts into a sapling, every new species that appears on earth, is part of the ongoing process of Allah's creation. "He it is Who created the heavens and the earth in six days, then established Himself on the Throne. He knows what enters within the heart of the earth, and what comes forth out of it, what comes down from heaven, and what mounts up to it. And He is with you wherever you may be. And Allah sees well all that you do" (57:4).

The Qur'anic account of creation is in line with modern scientific thought about the development of the universe and life on earth. Muslims acknowledge that life developed over a long period of time, but see Allah's power behind it all. Descriptions of creation in the Qur'an are set in context to remind the readers of Allah's majesty and wisdom. "What is the matter with you, that you are not conscious of Allah's majesty, seeing that it is He Who has created you in diverse stages? See you not how Allah has created the seven heavens one above another, and made the moon a light in their midst, and made the sun as a (glorious) lamp? And Allah has produced you from the earth, growing (gradually)" (71:13-17).



First, we should quote the verse correctly. It doesn’t say God “needed” to rest; it simply says that He did rest. Also, it is clear from Scripture that God did not rest because He was tired.
Genesis 17:1 calls God the “Almighty God.” Psalm 147:5 says, “Great is our Lord, and mighty in power; His understanding is infinite.” God is all-powerful; He never tires and never needs to rest. As Isaiah 40:28 says, “The everlasting God, the Lord, the Creator of the ends of the earth, neither faints nor is weary.” God is the sum of perfection; He is never diminished in any way, and that includes being diminished in power.

Answer

The Hebrew word translated “rested” in Genesis 2:2 includes other ideas than that of being tired.
In fact, one of the main definitions of the Hebrew word shabat is “to cease or stop.”
In Genesis 2:2 the understanding is that God “stopped” His work;
He “ceased” creating on the seventh day. All that He had created was good, and His work was finished.

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Re: God Never Rest, It's Biblical Error by Biodun556(m): 6:34am On Jul 14, 2021
Bishopkingsley:


The question you should have asked is what does God rest mean since you know God does not sleep or slumber or rest

There's no other meaning to it. God does not pause for anything, He is always working.

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Re: God Never Rest, It's Biblical Error by Biodun556(m): 6:38am On Jul 14, 2021
Bishopkingsley:





First, we should quote the verse correctly. It doesn’t say God “needed” to rest; it simply says that He did rest. Also, it is clear from Scripture that God did not rest because He was tired.
Genesis 17:1 calls God the “Almighty God.” Psalm 147:5 says, “Great is our Lord, and mighty in power; His understanding is infinite.” God is all-powerful; He never tires and never needs to rest. As Isaiah 40:28 says, “The everlasting God, the Lord, the Creator of the ends of the earth, neither faints nor is weary.” God is the sum of perfection; He is never diminished in any way, and that includes being diminished in power.

Answer

The Hebrew word translated “rested” in Genesis 2:2 includes other ideas than that of being tired.
In fact, one of the main definitions of the Hebrew word shabat is “to cease or stop.”
In Genesis 2:2 the understanding is that God “stopped” His work;
He “ceased” creating on the seventh day. All that He had created was good, and His work was finished.

...then all English translated bible are null and void because they did not carry correct interpretation
Re: God Never Rest, It's Biblical Error by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:07am On Jul 14, 2021
That's what Jesus said but when the Bible says God rested on the eighth day it has a totally different meaning from what the Jews in Jesus' day had in mind! smiley


Biodun556:

There's no other meaning to it. God does pause for anything, He is always working.
Re: God Never Rest, It's Biblical Error by Biodun556(m): 7:18am On Jul 14, 2021
MaxInDHouse:
That's what Jesus said but when the Bible says God rested on the eighth day it has a totally different meaning from what the Jews in Jesus' day had in mind! smiley



Stop using English bible
Re: God Never Rest, It's Biblical Error by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:22am On Jul 14, 2021
Don't worry about the language in which the book was written because if it's not understood the result will judge! Zephaniah 3:9

Positivity connotes perfect understanding while negativity is the sign of delusion! smiley

Biodun556:

Stop using English bible
Re: God Never Rest, It's Biblical Error by Bishopkingsley(m): 7:22am On Jul 14, 2021
Biodun556:


...then all English translated bible are null and void because they did not carry correct interpretation

No
The bible is not a novel
God did not write it to be understood without him teaching you the Bible
So God design it like that so that you will pray to him to understand his Word through the help of the holy spirit

If you don't have the holy spirit to teach you the Bible then you will continue to carry wrong information

The bible is a spiritual food, a spiritual word it not for everyone who don't know God

The word (Bible) is God
Re: God Never Rest, It's Biblical Error by Biodun556(m): 7:27am On Jul 14, 2021
Bishopkingsley:


No
The bible is not a novel
God did not write it to be understood without him teaching you the Bible
So God design it like that so that you will pray to him to understand his Word through the help of the holy spirit

If you don't have the holy spirit to teach you the Bible then you will continue to carry wrong information

The bible is a spiritual food, a spiritual word it not for everyone who don't know God

The word (Bible) is God

God did not write bible, infact Jesus did not know anything called bible
Re: God Never Rest, It's Biblical Error by Bishopkingsley(m): 7:31am On Jul 14, 2021
Biodun556:


God did not write bible, infact Jesus did not know anything called bible

We won't argue about that because you are not among those who our God selected
Re: God Never Rest, It's Biblical Error by Biodun556(m): 7:33am On Jul 14, 2021
Bishopkingsley:


We won't argue about that because you are not among those who our God selected


The books of the Bible were written and copied by hand, initially on papyrus scrolls. No originals survive, and the oldest existing scrolls are copies that were made centuries after the books were first written. The copies contained both errors and intentional changes, resulting in different versions of the books in circulation, ultimately diverging into distinct lineages, called "text families" or "text types". Over time, the individual scrolls were gathered into collections, but these collections had different scrolls, and different versions of the same scrolls, with no standard organization. By the 3rd century CE, scrolls were supplanted by early bound books called codexes, and collections of biblical books began being copied as a set.[25]
Re: God Never Rest, It's Biblical Error by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:39am On Jul 14, 2021
The result will prove afterwards if God is the author or not.
So are you ready to reason along since you're here for reasoning on the topic of discussion? smiley

Biodun556:

God did not write bible, infact Jesus did not know anything called bible
Re: God Never Rest, It's Biblical Error by Bishopkingsley(m): 7:43am On Jul 14, 2021
Biodun556:



The books of the Bible were written and copied by hand, initially on papyrus scrolls. No originals survive, and the oldest existing scrolls are copies that were made centuries after the books were first written. The copies contained both errors and intentional changes, resulting in different versions of the books in circulation, ultimately diverging into distinct lineages, called "text families" or "text types". Over time, the individual scrolls were gathered into collections, but these collections had different scrolls, and different versions of the same scrolls, with no standard organization. By the 3rd century CE, scrolls were supplanted by early bound books called codexes, and collections of biblical books began being copied as a set.[25]

You can know the history as long as you don't know the God behind the history then it will not make sense to you
Re: God Never Rest, It's Biblical Error by Biodun556(m): 7:46am On Jul 14, 2021
Bishopkingsley:


You can know the history as long as you don't know the God behind the history then it will not make sense to you

God recognizes fact and figures than faith
Re: God Never Rest, It's Biblical Error by Bishopkingsley(m): 7:49am On Jul 14, 2021
Biodun556:


God recognizes fact and figures than faith

In our Bible faith is what God loves
Every thing is faith in our Bible
A virgin to give birth is faith
Our God to become man is by faith
Without faith God said you can't please him
Re: God Never Rest, It's Biblical Error by Biodun556(m): 7:54am On Jul 14, 2021
MaxInDHouse:
The result will prove afterwards if God is the author or not.
So are you ready to reason along since you're here for reasoning on the topic of discussion? smiley


No good results will come out of errors. It is so glaring.


Biblical Contradictions

It is a central dogma of all fundamental Christians that the Bible is without error. They teach this conclusion by “reasoning” that god cannot be the author of false meaning and he cannot lie. Is this true? If written by a perfect being, then it must not contradict itself, as a collection of books written by different men at different times over many centuries would be expected to contradict each other.

With this in mind, let us have a look at the Bible on several subjects.

The Sabbath Day

“Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy.” — Exodus 20:8

“One man esteemeth one day above another: another esteemeth every day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind.” — Romans 14:5

The Permanence of Earth

“… the earth abideth for ever.” — Ecclesiastes 1:4

“… the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.” — 2Peter 3:10

Seeing God

“… I have seen God face to face, and my life is preserved.” — Genesis 32:30

“No man hath seen God at any time…”– John 1:18




The Power of God

“… with God all things are possible.” — Matthew 19:26

“…The LORD was with Judah; and he drave out the inhabitants of the mountain; but could not drive out the inhabitants of the valley, because they had chariots of iron.” — Judges 1:19




American Atheists
Biblical Contradictions

It is a central dogma of all fundamental Christians that the Bible is without error. They teach this conclusion by “reasoning” that god cannot be the author of false meaning and he cannot lie. Is this true? If written by a perfect being, then it must not contradict itself, as a collection of books written by different men at different times over many centuries would be expected to contradict each other.

With this in mind, let us have a look at the Bible on several subjects.

The Sabbath Day

“Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy.” — Exodus 20:8

“One man esteemeth one day above another: another esteemeth every day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind.” — Romans 14:5

The Permanence of Earth

“… the earth abideth for ever.” — Ecclesiastes 1:4

“… the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.” — 2Peter 3:10

Seeing God

“… I have seen God face to face, and my life is preserved.” — Genesis 32:30

“No man hath seen God at any time…”– John 1:18

Human Sacrifice

“… Thou shalt not let any of thy seed pass through the fire to Molech, neither shalt thou profane the name of thy God…” — Leviticus 18:21

[In Judges, though, the tale of Jephthah, who led the Israelites against the Ammonoites, is being told. Being fearful of defeat, this good religious man sought to guarantee victory by getting god firmly on his side. So he prayed to god] “… If thou shalt without fail deliver the children of Ammon into mine hands, Then it shall be, that whatsoever cometh forth of the doors of my house to meet me, when I return in peace from the children of Ammon, shall surely be the LORD’s, and I will offer it up for a burnt offering” — Judges 11:30-31

[The terms were acceptable to god — remember, he is supposed to be omniscient and know the future — so he gave victory to Jephthah, and the first whatsoever that greeted him upon his glorious return was his daughter, as god surely knew would happen, if god is god. True to his vow, the general made a human sacrifice of his only child to god!] — Judges 11:29-34

The Power of God

“… with God all things are possible.” — Matthew 19:26

“…The LORD was with Judah; and he drave out the inhabitants of the mountain; but could not drive out the inhabitants of the valley, because they had chariots of iron.” — Judges 1:19

Personal Injury

“…thou shalt give life for life, Eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot. burning for burning, wound for wound, stripe for stripe. ” — Exodus 21:23-25

“…ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on the right cheek, turn to him the other also.” — Matthew 5:39

Circumcision

“This is my covenant, which ye shall keep, between me and you and thy seed after thee; Every man child among you shall be circumcised.” — Genesis 17:10

“…if ye be circumcised, Christ shall profit you nothing.” — Galatians 5:2

Incest

“Cursed be he that lieth with his sister, the daughter of his father, or the daughter of this mother…” — Deuteronomy 27:22

“And if a man shall take his sister, his father’s daughter, or his mother’s daughter…it is a wicked thing….” — Leviticus 20:17

[But what was god’s reaction to Abraham, who married his sister — his father’s daughter?] See Genesis 20:11-12

“And God said unto Abraham, As for Sara thy wife…I bless her, and give thee a son also of her…” — Genesis 17:15-16


...Bible is not word of God
Re: God Never Rest, It's Biblical Error by Biodun556(m): 8:04am On Jul 14, 2021
Bishopkingsley:


In our Bible faith is what God loves
Every thing is faith in our Bible
A virgin to give birth is faith
Our God to become man is by faith
Without faith God said you can't please him


In Islam, knowledge comes before faith:


God warns every Muslim against speaking without knowledge: “And follow not that of which you have no knowledge. Verily, the hearing, and the sight, and the heart of each of those ones will be questioned (by God).” (Qur’an, 17:36)
Re: God Never Rest, It's Biblical Error by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:12am On Jul 14, 2021
Sorry, i left the thread when it seems you don't want to reason with me but if you're ready to reason with others the first thing to do is come out of the circus and try to look at matters from the perspective of a neutral observer!

Whatever those two books say now doesn't matter since your thinking is programmed against one so you need to stand out first before you can see the true color of both books!

Now let's start from a logical point of view.

What is the purpose or reason why God provides information (whether Qur'an or Bible) for humans?

Because if that purpose is met then the words are valid but if not then whatever book you're carrying is worthless, useless and purposeless! undecided

Biodun556:

No good results will come out of errors. It is so glaring. Biblical Contradictions
It is a central dogma of all fundamental Christians that the Bible is without error. They teach this conclusion by “reasoning” that god cannot be the author of false meaning and he cannot lie. Is this true? If written by a perfect being, then it must not contradict itself, as a collection of books written by different men at different times over many centuries would be expected to contradict each other.
With this in mind, let us have a look at the Bible on several subjects.
The Sabbath Day
“Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy.” — Exodus 20:8
“One man esteemeth one day above another: another esteemeth every day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind.” — Romans 14:5
The Permanence of Earth
“… the earth abideth for ever.” — Ecclesiastes 1:4
“… the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.” — 2Peter 3:10
Seeing God
“… I have seen God face to face, and my life is preserved.” — Genesis 32:30
“No man hath seen God at any time…”– John 1:18
The Power of God
“… with God all things are possible.” — Matthew 19:26
“…The LORD was with Judah; and he drave out the inhabitants of the mountain; but could not drive out the inhabitants of the valley, because they had chariots of iron.” — Judges 1:19
American Atheists
Biblical Contradictions
It is a central dogma of all fundamental Christians that the Bible is without error. They teach this conclusion by “reasoning” that god cannot be the author of false meaning and he cannot lie. Is this true? If written by a perfect being, then it must not contradict itself, as a collection of books written by different men at different times over many centuries would be expected to contradict each other.
With this in mind, let us have a look at the Bible on several subjects.
The Sabbath Day
“Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy.” — Exodus 20:8
“One man esteemeth one day above another: another esteemeth every day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind.” — Romans 14:5
The Permanence of Earth
“… the earth abideth for ever.” — Ecclesiastes 1:4
“… the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.” — 2Peter 3:10
Seeing God
“… I have seen God face to face, and my life is preserved.” — Genesis 32:30
“No man hath seen God at any time…”– John 1:18 Human Sacrifice
“… Thou shalt not let any of thy seed pass through the fire to Molech, neither shalt thou profane the name of thy God…” — Leviticus 18:21
[In Judges, though, the tale of Jephthah, who led the Israelites against the Ammonoites, is being told. Being fearful of defeat, this good religious man sought to guarantee victory by getting god firmly on his side. So he prayed to god] “… If thou shalt without fail deliver the children of Ammon into mine hands, Then it shall be, that whatsoever cometh forth of the doors of my house to meet me, when I return in peace from the children of Ammon, shall surely be the LORD’s, and I will offer it up for a burnt offering” — Judges 11:30-31
[The terms were acceptable to god — remember, he is supposed to be omniscient and know the future — so he gave victory to Jephthah, and the first whatsoever that greeted him upon his glorious return was his daughter, as god surely knew would happen, if god is god. True to his vow, the general made a human sacrifice of his only child to god!] — Judges 11:29-34
The Power of God
“… with God all things are possible.” — Matthew 19:26
“…The LORD was with Judah; and he drave out the inhabitants of the mountain; but could not drive out the inhabitants of the valley, because they had chariots of iron.” — Judges 1:19
Personal Injury
“…thou shalt give life for life, Eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot. burning for burning, wound for wound, stripe for stripe. ” — Exodus 21:23-25
“…ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on the right cheek, turn to him the other also.” — Matthew 5:39
Circumcision
“This is my covenant, which ye shall keep, between me and you and thy seed after thee; Every man child among you shall be circumcised.” — Genesis 17:10
“…if ye be circumcised, Christ shall profit you nothing.” — Galatians 5:2
Incest
“Cursed be he that lieth with his sister, the daughter of his father, or the daughter of this mother…” — Deuteronomy 27:22
“And if a man shall take his sister, his father’s daughter, or his mother’s daughter…it is a wicked thing….” — Leviticus 20:17
[But what was god’s reaction to Abraham, who married his sister — his father’s daughter?] See Genesis 20:11-12
“And God said unto Abraham, As for Sara thy wife…I bless her, and give thee a son also of her…” — Genesis 17:15-16
...Bible is not word of God
Re: God Never Rest, It's Biblical Error by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:52am On Jul 14, 2021
In ancient times our forefathers worshipped the idols and that's because it's what they met their ancestors doing. It was later that the British and Arabs brought books claiming that the books are the word of the Almighty God (Elédùmarè)
Well this people outsmarted our forefathers back then that's why our ancestors dropped all their deities and began carrying the books up and down.
Before these books our people were living and thriving, the atmosphere was calm and almost everyone cherished virtue. But gradually things began to change until what we now have today.
So how can you convince a neutral person that the books are from the Almighty God (Olódùmarè) If there's nothing to right home about after our people got the books?
That's why i said let's reason from a logical point of view.

Those people that brought the Qur'an claimed that it's the words of the Almighty God please what exactly are the positive effect of this book in the gathering of it's adherents. Let's live the society at large and concentrate on those that beleived (trusted) the book.
What fine result can you point to in the midst of those adhering to this book (Qur'an) in our society today?

I'm not asking you to talk about all those claiming Muslims because i was once a Muslim too and i know that there are many fake Muslims out there. So can you PRESENT just a group that you're sure they're truly adhering to what the book says then let's consider what fine result or positive outcome of the book in their gathering? undecided


The same thing is applicable to the other book as well because if we can't find any positive results then those books are worthless and useless. That's why most of our intellectuals and open minded youths today are turning to ATHEISM! undecided
Re: God Never Rest, It's Biblical Error by Biodun556(m): 9:13am On Jul 14, 2021
Re: God Never Rest, It's Biblical Error by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:27am On Jul 14, 2021
Please Sir don't feel intimidated by my post, i'm just an ordinary human like you who is ready to use his God's given brains to distinguish between what God said and fabrications from humans just like myself.

So i repeat What do you think could be the reason why God feel like giving mankind information? smiley
Biodun556:
Re: God Never Rest, It's Biblical Error by Bishopkingsley(m): 9:40am On Jul 14, 2021
Biodun556:



In Islam, knowledge comes before faith:


God warns every Muslim against speaking without knowledge: “And follow not that of which you have no knowledge. Verily, the hearing, and the sight, and the heart of each of those ones will be questioned (by God).” (Qur’an, 17:36)

If by knowledge you know your God don't you think you should be able to equally see him with your eyes

For us we use faith to know him before he gives us his knowledge by the way the faith to know our God is from him... For without him we can do nothing
Re: God Never Rest, It's Biblical Error by Biodun556(m): 10:18am On Jul 14, 2021
MaxInDHouse:
Please Sir don't feel intimidated by my post, i'm just an ordinary human like you who is ready to use his God's given brains to distinguish between what God said and fabrications from humans just like myself.

So i repeat What do you think could be the reason why God feel like giving mankind information? smiley



Human beings sense the existence of God—or what they perceive as a higher power—by pure instinct, with or without a prophetic revelation to guide them. Expressions of this sensus divinitatis have appeared in cultures and religions all over the world, despite them being widely separated by time, geography, and language. In Islamic spiritual terms, this is because God took a primordial covenant with every person before the world was created that they would recognize their Creator.



Ever since people innovated the dogma of joining others in worship along with Allah, Allah had been sending Prophets and Messengers to His devotees in order to invite them to the worship of Allah and Allah Alone, to order them not to ascribe partners unto Him and bring them out of the darkness of polytheism and into the light of Monotheism. All the Prophets preached the belief in the Oneness of Allah. The following verses from the Noble Qur'an illustrate this fact:

"Indeed, We sent Nooh (Noah) to his people and he said: 'O my people! Worship Allah! You have no other Ilaah (God) but him. (Laa ilaaha ill Allaah, none has the right to be worshipped but Allah). Certainly, I fear for you the torment of a great Day!'" (Al-A'araaf, The Heights 7:59)
Re: God Never Rest, It's Biblical Error by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:58am On Jul 14, 2021
So what is the reason why God passed information to humans?

Or let me rephrase it this way:

What will be the SIGN or MARK of authenticity that this group of people are the ones getting true info from the divine?

Remember there's no nation on this planet that doesn't have their form of worship and each believe in the Creator (Almighty God) now that the Arabs claimed that the Almighty wants to speak to all people through one of them (Muhammad) and Jews also claimed that God wants to speak with people through their prophets (including Jesus) and our own ancestors here in Yorùbá land beleive that God is speaking to them through Ifá (Ọ̀rúnmìlà) just like so many other nations.

How can we decipher who is saying the truth? undecided

Biodun556:

Human beings sense the existence of God—or what they perceive as a higher power—by pure instinct, with or without a prophetic revelation to guide them. Expressions of this sensus divinitatis have appeared in cultures and religions all over the world, despite them being widely separated by time, geography, and language. In Islamic spiritual terms, this is because God took a primordial covenant with every person before the world was created that they would recognize their Creator.
Ever since people innovated the dogma of joining others in worship along with Allah, Allah had been sending Prophets and Messengers to His devotees in order to invite them to the worship of Allah and Allah Alone, to order them not to ascribe partners unto Him and bring them out of the darkness of polytheism and into the light of Monotheism. All the Prophets preached the belief in the Oneness of Allah. The following verses from the Noble Qur'an illustrate this fact:
"Indeed, We sent Nooh (Noah) to his people and he said: 'O my people! Worship Allah! You have no other Ilaah (God) but him. (Laa ilaaha ill Allaah, none has the right to be worshipped but Allah). Certainly, I fear for you the torment of a great Day!'" (Al-A'araaf, The Heights 7:59)
Re: God Never Rest, It's Biblical Error by Biodun556(m): 11:30am On Jul 14, 2021
MaxInDHouse:
So what is the reason why God passed information to humans?

Or let me rephrase it this way:

What will be the SIGN or MARK of authenticity that this group of people are the ones getting true info from the divine?

Remember there's no nation on this planet that doesn't have their form of worship and each believe in the Creator (Almighty God) now that the Arabs claimed that the Almighty wants to speak to all people through one of them (Muhammad) and Jews also claimed that God wants to speak with people through their prophets (including Jesus) and our own ancestors here in Yorùbá land beleive that God is speaking to them through Ifá (Ọ̀rúnmìlà) just like so many other nations.

How can we decipher who is saying the truth? undecided







A man must think on how he came into being, what is the purpose of his life, why he will die and what awaits him after death. He must question how he himself and the whole universe came into existence and how they continue to exist. While doing this, he must relieve himself of all constraints and prejudices.
By thinking, while isolating his conscience from all social, ideological and psychological obligations, the person should eventually perceive that the entire universe, including himself, is created by a superior power. Even when he examines his own body or any other thing in nature, he will see an impressive harmony, plan and wisdom at work within its design.
In the Qur'an, God guides us as to what we should reflect on and investigate. With the methods of reflection given in the Qur'an, he who has faith in God will better perceive God's perfection, eternal wisdom, knowledge and power in His creation. When a believing person starts to think in the way shown in the Qur'an, he soon realizes that the whole universe is a sign of God's power and art, and that, "nature is a work of art, not the artist itself." Every work of art exhibits the exceptional skills of the one who has made it and conveys his messages
Re: God Never Rest, It's Biblical Error by MaxInDHouse(m): 11:59am On Jul 14, 2021
These are what your own religous book says and others also have their own description so my question is.

How can we know for certain that this book or the other book is authentic since adherents of each book will continue to eulogize the book given to them?

If we want to reason logically it's not what the book or it's adherents have to say that matters rather it's the positive results after the adherents have been applying what the book says in a PRACTICAL SENSE!

For instance, there are science students in Nigeria just as there are in China but what will prove the government of each people right is performance of students from both countries regarding technological advancement.

If we should call a Nigerian science student now and a Chinese science student to express themselves you will hear grammaticalism and eloquentialism from a Nigerian but let's wait for the outcome of what they know then you'll know who truly has what it takes to back up his knowledge! smiley
So instead of repeating what that book say, please tell me the name of a group who are truly adhering to what the book (Qur'an) says and the POSITIVE RESULTS of the WISDOM found in that book in their gathering! smiley

Biodun556:

A man must think on how he came into being, what is the purpose of his life, why he will die and what awaits him after death. He must question how he himself and the whole universe came into existence and how they continue to exist. While doing this, he must relieve himself of all constraints and prejudices. By thinking, while isolating his conscience from all social, ideological and psychological obligations, the person should eventually perceive that the entire universe, including himself, is created by a superior power. Even when he examines his own body or any other thing in nature, he will see an impressive harmony, plan and wisdom at work within its design. In the Qur'an, God guides us as to what we should reflect on and investigate. With the methods of reflection given in the Qur'an, he who has faith in God will better perceive God's perfection, eternal wisdom, knowledge and power in His creation. When a believing person starts to think in the way shown in the Qur'an, he soon realizes that the whole universe is a sign of God's power and art, and that, "nature is a work of art, not the artist itself." Every work of art exhibits the exceptional skills of the one who has made it and conveys his messages
Re: God Never Rest, It's Biblical Error by MaxInDHouse(m): 12:16pm On Jul 14, 2021
Mr Biodun.

There are two things that i'll like you to ponder over.

KNOWLEDGE and WISDOM

Knowledge is the accumulation of useful information. Of course everyone living on this planet will argue that he or she has it!

But

Wisdom is the practical application of accumulated information resulting in lasting benefits. In this case there's no room for rants because it's positive result that speaks for the one having WISDOM! Luke 7:35 smiley
Re: God Never Rest, It's Biblical Error by Biodun556(m): 10:01am On Jul 18, 2021
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Re: God Never Rest, It's Biblical Error by Biodun556(m): 4:08pm On Jul 27, 2021
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Re: God Never Rest, It's Biblical Error by sholay2011(m): 4:20pm On Jul 27, 2021
Bishopkingsley:





First, we should quote the verse correctly. It doesn’t say God “needed” to rest; it simply says that He did rest. Also, it is clear from Scripture that God did not rest because He was tired.
Genesis 17:1 calls God the “Almighty God.” Psalm 147:5 says, “Great is our Lord, and mighty in power; His understanding is infinite.” God is all-powerful; He never tires and never needs to rest. As Isaiah 40:28 says, “The everlasting God, the Lord, the Creator of the ends of the earth, neither faints nor is weary.” God is the sum of perfection; He is never diminished in any way, and that includes being diminished in power.

Answer

The Hebrew word translated “rested” in Genesis 2:2 includes other ideas than that of being tired.
In fact, one of the main definitions of the Hebrew word shabat is “to cease or stop.”
In Genesis 2:2 the understanding is that God “stopped” His work;
He “ceased” creating on the seventh day. All that He had created was good, and His work was finished.
Well said.

Hebrews 4:9-10 explains more on the meaning of God "rested" on the 7th day...and the meaning was that He ceased from his work (of creation) on that day. Nothing more. The Sabbath day was created for the Israelites in the Old testament to honour this day, by they ceasing from physical work, not necessarily resting because they are tired. Hebrews 4 now encourages us as God's children to enter that same rest, where we cease from works and rely more on His grace.

Isaiah 40:28 puts it to rest (no pun intended), that our God neither faints, nor is he ever weary.

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