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Re: FG To Take Possession Of Looted Benin Bronze When Returned From Germany by nextstep(m): 11:39pm On Jul 17, 2021 |
CSTRR: First of all, I firmly think the artifacts should be put under the custody of the Oba. However, the Oba has no legal standing on the matter, and can only get what he is given by the Nigerian State: 1. FG routinely takes the money of people who have passed away, as do most governments around the world. 2. The Kingdom of Benin was annexed by the British Empire in 1897. In other words, it ceased to exist - as in, it passed away. 3. The artifacts legally belong - unfortunately - to the inheritor of British Empire - i.e. Nigeria. 4. The last Oba of Benin Kingdom- Ovonramwen - died in 1914, but his throne was never restored to him. His son, grandson and now great-grandson, are allowed to keep their title and status as traditional rulers in modern-day Nigeria, at the pleasure of the FG. (Note the intentional use of the word allowed). NOTE: they are called "Oba of Benin", but not "Oba of Benin Kingdom" because that kingdom no longer exists. One cannot be a kingdom unless sovereign. It's all unfortunate and I don't like it at all, but there you are. 1 Like |
Re: FG To Take Possession Of Looted Benin Bronze When Returned From Germany by BigBashiru: 11:44pm On Jul 17, 2021 |
Mangekyo: the glories of the black man, stolen by the British and German thieves are slowly being returned to us... Africans - the greatest people on earth who were bullied by colonization, stripped of our culture, called barbaric, banned from speaking our languages by colonial administrators - invaded by british forces multiple times starting from 1857. 2 Likes |
Re: FG To Take Possession Of Looted Benin Bronze When Returned From Germany by bluebay(m): 11:44pm On Jul 17, 2021 |
It will be handed over to the state Governor then can be handed over to the king. Or even taken to the state museum … |
Re: FG To Take Possession Of Looted Benin Bronze When Returned From Germany by Mangekyo: 11:45pm On Jul 17, 2021 |
BigBashiru: The black man is cursed 1 Like |
Re: FG To Take Possession Of Looted Benin Bronze When Returned From Germany by patorial(m): 11:46pm On Jul 17, 2021 |
SchoolGate:Same way Nigerian Yahoo boy will one day return their money |
Re: FG To Take Possession Of Looted Benin Bronze When Returned From Germany by Mangekyo: 11:49pm On Jul 17, 2021 |
nextstep: A bit intelligent lad, are you not? |
Re: FG To Take Possession Of Looted Benin Bronze When Returned From Germany by slivertongue: 11:56pm On Jul 17, 2021 |
evansjeff: Edo governor first, Edo state first. oba is under Edo state government not the reverse |
Re: FG To Take Possession Of Looted Benin Bronze When Returned From Germany by BigBashiru: 12:04am On Jul 18, 2021 |
Mangekyo: thats the narrative they want you to believe about urself. Black man is equal to all others. at least 4 African countries are actively being destabilized by France. 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: FG To Take Possession Of Looted Benin Bronze When Returned From Germany by royal231(m): 12:05am On Jul 18, 2021 |
Etinosa1234: If you go all round even down to Cameroon they all did bronze artifacts.. So we're all artworks looted by the whites? Where are the art works from itsekiri.. Uhrobo.. Ijaws.. And other tribes around Benin.. And Benin always had their own share because you give what belongs to ceaser to ceaser.. Yes they can still do it till now because the fame it generated.. People will always come to Benin for the bronze.. Irrespective of if the looted artifacts were returned or not.. Cheers.. But its better of under the Government.. In the sense that it should be in a place accessible to everyone.. But the royal family will have to see its daily maintenance and so.. So I think it shouldn't be inside the Palace.. Because if u put it inside Palace it will be there for just the royal family and most of his psychophants.. But if its public.. Everyone will start knowing the truth about our country.. And it's history's.. Secondly those artifacts were looted due to a reason.. If that same thing repeats you know say na Nigerian soilders go enter this time.. Aboki no send.. So its better the royal family work out something with state govt and leave federal govt out |
Re: FG To Take Possession Of Looted Benin Bronze When Returned From Germany by Elporo(m): 12:05am On Jul 18, 2021 |
nextstep: Obaseki no go see pin. Oshiomole pulling strings. |
Re: FG To Take Possession Of Looted Benin Bronze When Returned From Germany by Tulsaguy: 12:06am On Jul 18, 2021 |
Dunce Governor see your life. Anyway..... We can package the dullard artifact occupying aso rock back to them in exchange. he is of no value to Nigeria and Nigerians.
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Re: FG To Take Possession Of Looted Benin Bronze When Returned From Germany by Tbasicme: 12:08am On Jul 18, 2021 |
Afam4eva: The Oba won't keep it as a personal property. He requested that a museum be built Within the palace premises and the artifacts be kept in the museum Which is a welcome development. It will add more to the prestige to the Benin culture, The Benin royal stool and the state at large 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: FG To Take Possession Of Looted Benin Bronze When Returned From Germany by Etinosa1234: 12:10am On Jul 18, 2021 |
royal231: Oga .. na long story u dey type.. I'm telling u that most of what we call the Benin artefacts are from igun in Sakponba road.. Obviously there'll be some from other tribes but majority are from igun Goan ask Urhobo, ijaw and itsekiri where they put their own artefacts.. Only few will tell u that it was in Oba palace or Benin 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: FG To Take Possession Of Looted Benin Bronze When Returned From Germany by cardoctor(m): 12:13am On Jul 18, 2021 |
People wey dey carry mace waka. Nothing dey happen. Na Bini. |
Re: FG To Take Possession Of Looted Benin Bronze When Returned From Germany by planetx: 12:17am On Jul 18, 2021 |
I knew there will be a stampede by the Europeans to return Africa's stolen treasures in this perilous times because they know what is coming for them. If you think Germany is returning 1,300 stolen artifacts out of the goodness of their heart I don't even know what to tell you. 2 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: FG To Take Possession Of Looted Benin Bronze When Returned From Germany by Guestlander: 12:17am On Jul 18, 2021 |
Afam4eva: It belongs to the Oba of Benin if it was originally stolen from his palace. Common sense. The Oba of Benin in conjunction with the FG should decide what to do with the artifacts. 2 Likes |
Re: FG To Take Possession Of Looted Benin Bronze When Returned From Germany by Damlhaade01(m): 12:19am On Jul 18, 2021 |
All these mugus gain...when old man go dey fall im age, idiot, can u read Na u negotiate the release Stupid old fool 1 Like |
Re: FG To Take Possession Of Looted Benin Bronze When Returned From Germany by Damlhaade01(m): 12:20am On Jul 18, 2021 |
This Lai ehn!!!!?!!! And d idiot na Muslim oooo 1 Like |
Re: FG To Take Possession Of Looted Benin Bronze When Returned From Germany by planetx: 12:21am On Jul 18, 2021 |
BigBashiru:They are returning all our stolen artifacts and treasures to prevent the big payback, but unfortunately for them it is too late. |
Re: FG To Take Possession Of Looted Benin Bronze When Returned From Germany by benji93: 12:25am On Jul 18, 2021 |
Surely they abide by international laws when it suits them. What a leadership. Mangekyo: |
Re: FG To Take Possession Of Looted Benin Bronze When Returned From Germany by Bundaweber: 12:26am On Jul 18, 2021 |
Afam4eva: Those artifacts are the personal property of the oba. It is the oba that commissions the bronze carver to do the works for him. It and I repeat it is the property of the Benin monarchy 1 Like |
Re: FG To Take Possession Of Looted Benin Bronze When Returned From Germany by Bundaweber: 12:30am On Jul 18, 2021 |
Lescalier: Excuse me? Why should the Lagos museum have a share of the Benin artifacts? If obaseki is really serious about culture, let him restore the Benin moats and walls. At least those are under his jurisdiction 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: FG To Take Possession Of Looted Benin Bronze When Returned From Germany by Bundaweber: 12:31am On Jul 18, 2021 |
royal231: Are you for real? Please make the tribe that "manufactured" the Benin bronze 2 Likes |
Re: FG To Take Possession Of Looted Benin Bronze When Returned From Germany by planetx: 12:32am On Jul 18, 2021 |
InvertedHammer:And how did we maintain them for hundreds of years before the European bandits stole them, even if your suggestion is put to them they will refuse it and insist on returning them because unlike you they know the times and season we are now in. 4 Likes |
Re: FG To Take Possession Of Looted Benin Bronze When Returned From Germany by Bundaweber: 12:33am On Jul 18, 2021 |
CSTRR: If obaseki is really serious about revenue from tourism, he would have ; 1. Ensure security in the state 2. Restored the Benin moats and walls(which would generate even more revenue) 3.funded the proposed archeological ecavation @iso and other places of interest. 1 Like |
Re: FG To Take Possession Of Looted Benin Bronze When Returned From Germany by Bundaweber: 12:36am On Jul 18, 2021 |
nextstep: Is there a Benin monarchy in existence? Yes or no Is the current Benin monarchy a direct descendant and successor of the Benin Kingdom of yore? Yes or no 3 Likes |
Re: FG To Take Possession Of Looted Benin Bronze When Returned From Germany by Bundaweber: 12:40am On Jul 18, 2021 |
InvertedHammer: I find your submission laughable. Are you now saying that the creators of those artifacts cannot maintain their own creation? Those artifacts were already hundreds of years old in the obas palace before they were looted 4 Likes |
Re: FG To Take Possession Of Looted Benin Bronze When Returned From Germany by Bundaweber: 12:41am On Jul 18, 2021 |
Coldie: You think it is that easy. Let obaseki dare it and let us see the outcome 3 Likes |
Re: FG To Take Possession Of Looted Benin Bronze When Returned From Germany by Bundaweber: 12:46am On Jul 18, 2021 |
Judolisco: Please stop to dey show your ignorance for public forum. It is this present oba that has been fighting for the return of this artifacts for years. Even his grandfather fought for the return before he joined his ancestors. The pyramid of Egypt is serving the whole of Egypt because the current Egypt is the successor of the Egyptian monarchy. As we speak there is no pharaoh existing 3 Likes |
Re: FG To Take Possession Of Looted Benin Bronze When Returned From Germany by Bundaweber: 12:48am On Jul 18, 2021 |
Judolisco: Yes. If the state needs to generate revenue the moat, the walls, the various shrines are there 1 Like |
Re: FG To Take Possession Of Looted Benin Bronze When Returned From Germany by Bundaweber: 12:49am On Jul 18, 2021 |
nextstep: Nope!!!! Up till the land use act, who was the custodian of lands ? 3 Likes |
Re: FG To Take Possession Of Looted Benin Bronze When Returned From Germany by Frankiss44(m): 12:52am On Jul 18, 2021 |
Tinubuadvocate: Rather the state government should take the FG to court.. It is simple case that will be won just like that of delta state repatriated funds.. The oba of Benin is under a recognized commissioner appointed by the State government |
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