Bishopkingsley:

********* Beware of Scoffers *******'' '

3 Most importantly, I want to remind you that in the last days scoffers will come, mocking the truth and following their own desires.

4 They will say, “What happened to the promise that Jesus is coming again? From before the times of our ancestors, everything has remained the same since the world was first created.”

5 They deliberately forget that God made the heavens long ago by the word of his command, and he brought the earth out from the water and surrounded it with water.

6 Then he used the water to destroy the ancient world with a mighty flood.

7 And by the same word, the present heavens and earth have been stored up for fire. They are being kept for the day of judgment, when ungodly people will be destroyed.

8 But you must not forget this one thing, dear friends: A day is like a thousand years to the Lord, and a thousand years is like a day.

9 The Lord isn’t really being slow about his promise, as some people think. No, he is being patient for your sake. He does not want anyone to be destroyed, but wants everyone to repent.

10 But the day of the Lord will come as unexpectedly as a thief. Then the heavens will pass away with a terrible noise, and the very elements themselves will disappear in fire, and the earth and everything on it will be found to deserve judgment.

11 Since everything around us is going to be destroyed like this, what holy and godly lives you should live,

12 looking forward to the day of God and hurrying it along. On that day, he will set the heavens on fire, and the elements will melt away in the flames.

13 But we are looking forward to the new heavens and new earth he has promised, a world filled with God’s righteousness.

14 And so, dear friends, while you are waiting for these things to happen, make every effort to be found living peaceful lives that are pure and blameless in his sight.

15 And remember, our Lord’s patience gives people time to be saved. This is what our beloved brother Paul also wrote to you with the wisdom God gave him—

16 speaking of these things in all of his letters. Some of his comments are hard to understand, and those who are ignorant and unstable have twisted his letters to mean something quite different, just as they do with other parts of Scripture. And this will result in their destruction.

Peter’s Final Words

17 You already know these things, dear friends. So be on guard; then you will not be carried away by the errors of these wicked people and lose your own secure footing.

18 Rather, you must grow in the grace and knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.

All glory to him, both now and forever! Amen.

budaatum:
What is Jesus Christ?

budaatum:

What is Jesus Christ?

MaxInDHouse:


Jesus is the mighty spirit being leading the Organization of JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES!
That's why there is LOVE {John 13:34-35} JOY {Luke 10:17} and PEACE {John 14:26} among them globally! Matthew 5:13-16

paxonel:
Currently, is Jesus Christ with us or he is not with us and he is coming back again?

Very important question to ask:

To some Christians like Righteousness2 and his his likes, this might appear as a huge puzzle for them to understand
Afterall, even Jesus parables were like puzzles for the scribes and Pharisees to understand and people hate what they don't understand, it's natural

That's why i say this bible is not for feeble minds, it is for intellects. But unfortunately, feeble minds are the ones preaching it in Nigeria so feeble citizens are produced.

now, here is prophet Isaiah telling the Jews of the old testament what will happen in their future, that the Messiah was coming

Isaiah 6:9 For to us a child is born, to us a son is given, and the government will be on his shoulders. And he will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.

After the fulfillment of this prophecy in the new testament the Messiah came and he was among the Jews as a new born baby, and isaiah's prophecy was made reference to :

Matthew 2:6 And thou Bethlehem, in the land of Juda, art not the least among the princes of Juda: for out of thee shall come a Governor, that shall rule my people Israel.

But many of the Jews who were expecting his coming including the scribes and the Pharisees did not believe that the Messiah has come in their midst : They saw Jesus they didn't know he was the Messiah so they were not ready to receive him. Even some Jesus disciples were not ready too, hence this is what Jesus told them

Matthew 24:44 Therefore be ye also ready(that his disciples should also ready: not today Christians o,please take note): for in such an hour as ye think not the Son of man cometh.

Because we foolishly and always made that mistake assuming that Jesus is also talking to us today Christians that we should be ready because we are also his disciple, it does not follow.

Now the issue is, Christians of today read this Matthew 24:44 and in our minds we think that Jesus was talking about his second coming in a way of rapture and end of the world

Do you know that we are very confused people, today Christians especially Africans?

Now, I go back to the question again, HAS JESUS CHRIST COME OR IS HE COMING BACK AGAIN?

Going by the prophecy of Isaiah above the answer is, Jesus has already come and he is currently with us in the spirit (Emmanuel which literally interpretes GOD WITH US) so he is not coming back again.

However, the day you die he has come for you, that is his second coming(Acts1:11), after that life continues without you.
He will surely wait till you die, you will meet him in the spirit:

Hebrews 9:27 And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment

And in that judgement this is what will happen and it will happen so fast within the twinkling of the eye

Revelation 20:14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. Revelation 20:15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

So we have all the liberty to be productive while we are alive :
If you are trader or Engineer or Doctor or Farmer or whatever profession God has blessed you with, focus on it and do it perfectly without any fear of the unknown.

You will never see Jesus coming physically in the sky and Angels blowing trumpets like whaaaat?
Imagine the primitivity of religious mystical beliefs

GardenOfGod:

............... WATCHTOWER VERDICT..............
÷÷÷CHRIST' BEEN HERE SINCE 1974÷÷÷

"Surely there is not the slightest room for doubt in the mind of a truly consecrated child of God that the Lord Jesus Christ is present and has been since 1974 . . "
(The Watchtower, January 1, 1924, page 5)

"Our Lord, the appointed King, is now present, since October 1874, A.D., according to the testimony of the prophets, to those who have ears to hear it: and the formal inauguration of his kingly office dates from April 1878, A.D., and the first work of the Kingdom, as shown by our Lord, in his parables and prophecy (the gathering of his elect), is now in progress. 'The dead in Christ shall rise first,' explained the Lord through the Apostles; and the resurrection of the Church shall be in a moment"
(The Battle of Armageddon, Studies in the Scriptures Series IV, 1897, page 62)

paxonel:
OK, watchtower has said it own without any scriptural reference, how will they go far ?

GardenOfGod:

They don't need scriptures, they are the "mouthpiece" of God. Let me show you.

GardenOfGod:

They don't need scriptures, they are the "mouthpiece" of God. Let me show you.


In the September 15, 1922, issue of The Watchtower, on page 279, is this statement: "God gave Brother Russell to the church to be the mouthpiece for him; and those who claim to have learned the truth apart from Brother Russell and his writings have been manifested by the Lord as deceivers, ready to lead the flock of God in their way."

paxonel:
very true!
They are separate religion to themselves like religions other than Christianity such as Islam, Bhudaism, Obalata and Sango who don't need bible

GardenOfGod:

............... WATCHTOWER VERDICT..............
÷÷÷CHRIST' BEEN HERE SINCE 1974÷÷÷

"Surely there is not the slightest room for doubt in the mind of a truly consecrated child of God that the Lord Jesus Christ is present and has been since 1974 . . "
(The Watchtower, January 1, 1924, page 5)

"Our Lord, the appointed King, is now present, since October 1874, A.D., according to the testimony of the prophets, to those who have ears to hear it: and the formal inauguration of his kingly office dates from April 1878, A.D., and the first work of the Kingdom, as shown by our Lord, in his parables and prophecy (the gathering of his elect), is now in progress. 'The dead in Christ shall rise first,' explained the Lord through the Apostles; and the resurrection of the Church shall be in a moment"
(The Battle of Armageddon, Studies in the Scriptures Series IV, 1897, page 62)

GardenOfGod:

Hahaha.... I got your point.
But mine was on heated argument.
However, on my Lord and Saviour Jesus the Christ, He is God and not angel.
The Witnesses have their own belief system that is scripted far away USA by WatchTower.
Whatever their publishing company logically teaches them, is what they hold unto regardless of what other portions of the scriptures infer on the subject.
So it is for your own soul's sake to adhere to the advice of Paul to Timothy and Titus... Avoid them!

paxonel:
very true!
They are separate religion to themselves like religions other than Christianity such as Islam, Bhudaism, Obalata and Sango who don't need bible

MaxInDHouse:





People of with there own mouth!

GardenOfGod:

I was only responding to a post of interest... Trying to provide the best answer from a more reliable source.

obonujoker:
Jehovah witness as usual with crap...

paxonel:
OK, watchtower has said it own without any scriptural reference, how will they go far ?

paxonel:
Currently, is Jesus Christ with us or he is not with us and he is coming back again?

Very important question to ask:

To some Christians like Righteousness2 and his his likes, this might appear as a huge puzzle for them to understand
Afterall, even Jesus parables were like puzzles for the scribes and Pharisees to understand and people hate what they don't understand, it's natural

That's why i say this bible is not for feeble minds, it is for intellects. But unfortunately, feeble minds are the ones preaching it in Nigeria so feeble citizens are produced.

now, here is prophet Isaiah telling the Jews of the old testament what will happen in their future, that the Messiah was coming

Isaiah 6:9 For to us a child is born, to us a son is given, and the government will be on his shoulders. And he will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.

After the fulfillment of this prophecy in the new testament the Messiah came and he was among the Jews as a new born baby, and isaiah's prophecy was made reference to :

Matthew 2:6 And thou Bethlehem, in the land of Juda, art not the least among the princes of Juda: for out of thee shall come a Governor, that shall rule my people Israel.

But many of the Jews who were expecting his coming including the scribes and the Pharisees did not believe that the Messiah has come in their midst : They saw Jesus they didn't know he was the Messiah so they were not ready to receive him. Even some Jesus disciples were not ready too, hence this is what Jesus told them

Matthew 24:44 Therefore be ye also ready(that his disciples should also ready: not today Christians o,please take note): for in such an hour as ye think not the Son of man cometh.

Because we foolishly and always made that mistake assuming that Jesus is also talking to us today Christians that we should be ready because we are also his disciple, it does not follow.

Now the issue is, Christians of today read this Matthew 24:44 and in our minds we think that Jesus was talking about his second coming in a way of rapture and end of the world

Do you know that we are very confused people, today Christians especially Africans?

Now, I go back to the question again, HAS JESUS CHRIST COME OR IS HE COMING BACK AGAIN?

Going by the prophecy of Isaiah above the answer is, Jesus has already come and he is currently with us in the spirit (Emmanuel which literally interpretes GOD WITH US) so he is not coming back again.

However, the day you die he has come for you, that is his second coming(Acts1:11), after that life continues without you.
He will surely wait till you die, you will meet him in the spirit:

Hebrews 9:27 And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment

And in that judgement this is what will happen and it will happen so fast within the twinkling of the eye

Revelation 20:14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. Revelation 20:15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

So we have all the liberty to be productive while we are alive :
If you are trader or Engineer or Doctor or Farmer or whatever profession God has blessed you with, focus on it and do it perfectly without any fear of the unknown.

You will never see Jesus coming physically in the sky and Angels blowing trumpets like whaaaat?
Imagine the primitivity of religious mystical beliefs

denisbid:
op, part of the things Jesus requested from his followers is for them to love their neighbours as themselves and give to the poor, that is how people will know who Jesus followers are.
But having a profession you emphasize on sn't part of Jesus teachings to his disciples