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Re: Christians Brother Gets Owned By Lucas Bashir by Kobojunkie: 3:39pm On Aug 11, 2021 |
AntiChristian:He may not have the term born-again in particular, but the sub-commandments I spoke of where included in, I believe Matthew, Mark, Luke and John. |
Re: Christians Brother Gets Owned By Lucas Bashir by AntiChristian: 3:46pm On Aug 11, 2021 |
Kobojunkie: And after being born again you can still enter heaven or hell? So what's the importance? |
Re: Christians Brother Gets Owned By Lucas Bashir by Kobojunkie: 3:56pm On Aug 11, 2021 |
AntiChristian:You become born-again in order to gain access into the Kingdom of God, to qualify for what God promised through Jesus Christ. And yes, in the Kingdom of God are those whose journey will end in Hell and those whose journey will end in Heaven. Those who do not enter into the Kingdom of God, all those who do not believe in God's Law, are those who are condemned to perish in the grave- cease to exist when they die, God's judgment since Adam. |
Re: Christians Brother Gets Owned By Lucas Bashir by AntiChristian: 4:15pm On Aug 11, 2021 |
Kobojunkie: Your own na another case o 1 Like |
Re: Christians Brother Gets Owned By Lucas Bashir by Kobojunkie: 4:23pm On Aug 11, 2021 |
AntiChristian:It is all there even in John 3 vs 1 - 21 And in verse 36, He reiterates that those who do not believe in Him , remain condemned. 36 Whoever believes in the Son has eternal life. But those who do not obey the Son will never have that life. They cannot get away from God’s anger.” - John 3 vs 36So, no, this is not another case but the same words written in the Bible for all to comprehend. |
Re: Christians Brother Gets Owned By Lucas Bashir by AntiChristian: 4:40pm On Aug 11, 2021 |
Kobojunkie: Anyways...I believe all Jesus preached before he left was for only the children of Israel. 1 Like |
Re: Christians Brother Gets Owned By Lucas Bashir by Kobojunkie: 5:16pm On Aug 11, 2021 |
AntiChristian:So, why then did Jesus Christ, this after His resurrection, send His disciples into the World, to preach the very same Good News, He spent over 3 years teaching them before His death? |
Re: Christians Brother Gets Owned By Lucas Bashir by madegreatbygrace(m): 5:32pm On Aug 11, 2021 |
quote author=AntiChristian post=104679485] Even Antichristian can identify an heretical nutcase |
Re: Christians Brother Gets Owned By Lucas Bashir by AntiChristian: 5:34pm On Aug 11, 2021 |
Kobojunkie: I think we should first ask why Jesus said he was sent only to the lost sheep of Israel. Emphasis on "only"! Or did God later change his audience? 1 Like |
Re: Christians Brother Gets Owned By Lucas Bashir by AntiChristian: 5:37pm On Aug 11, 2021 |
madegreatbygrace: Yes, most of his views are anti a lot of Christian views I know. But he is evidence based. madegreatbygrace |
Re: Christians Brother Gets Owned By Lucas Bashir by Kobojunkie: 5:47pm On Aug 11, 2021 |
AntiChristian:Yes, Jesus Christ was sent to the Lost sheep of Israel, those to whom God, through His prophets, made the promise to - Jeremiah 31 vs 31 - 34. 31 This is what the Lord said, “The time is coming when I will make a new agreement with the family of Israel and with the family of Judah. And so that mission was finished when He died on the cross. And upon His resurrection, He threw open the gates of the Kingdom of God to the people of all the nations of of World, just as God promised. |
Re: Christians Brother Gets Owned By Lucas Bashir by AntiChristian: 8:04pm On Aug 11, 2021 |
Kobojunkie: I already knew this is where you'd end. But the Islamic stance is that Jesus was sent to only Israel. Just as Noah, Moses and some others were sent to their nation only. God's audience no dey change after His messenger dies! |
Re: Christians Brother Gets Owned By Lucas Bashir by Kobojunkie: 8:11pm On Aug 11, 2021 |
AntiChristian:God didn't change the audience, He instead included the people of of nations into the New Covenant/agreement, embodied in the person of Jesus Christ, as He said He would in Jeremiah 31, just as He also promised in Genesis when He declared He would bless the nation's of the world through the seed of Abraham. If you follow Jesus Christ's own story, He told you He was sent to to Lost sheep of Israel(the sinners in the land) and He finished His duty by them, living according to the Old Covenant Law of Moses and dying at the end to redeem them from it. When Jesus Christ rose from the dead, He then sent, not Himself, but His disciples, into the world to bless the people of the nations of the world with the same Law that He taught to them. |
Re: Christians Brother Gets Owned By Lucas Bashir by AntiChristian: 12:10pm On Aug 12, 2021 |
Kobojunkie: That's what I'm saying. God didn't intend to include everybody before as nowhere was this mentioned explicitly. Anyways, as I said before I prefer the explicit verses below: Allah, Exalted be He, says, “Say (O Muhammad): ‘O mankind! Verily, I am sent to you all as the Messenger of Allah - to Whom belongs the dominion of the heavens and the earth.’” (Surah Al-A’raf, 7:158) “And We have not sent you (O Muhammad) except as a giver of glad tidings and a warner to all mankind, but most men know not.” (Surah Saba’, 34: 28) Allah, may He be exalted, says (interpretation of the meaning): “And We have sent you (O Muhammad SAW) not but as a mercy for the Aalameen (mankind, jinns and all that exists)” [al-Anbiya’ 21:107]. |
Re: Christians Brother Gets Owned By Lucas Bashir by Kobojunkie: 12:26pm On Aug 12, 2021 |
AntiChristian:God didn't intend but His Law, Jesus Christ did? Interesting claim! |
Re: Christians Brother Gets Owned By Lucas Bashir by AntiChristian: 12:33pm On Aug 12, 2021 |
Kobojunkie: Where in Jeremiah 31 did God plan to save the world outside Israel? Jesus Christ is your God's Law? |
Re: Christians Brother Gets Owned By Lucas Bashir by Kobojunkie: 12:35pm On Aug 12, 2021 |
AntiChristian:God did mentioned that all people would be impacted by His New Agreement, did He not? Jesus Christ is the New agreement promised by God, the New Covenant/Law, only not in the land of Canaan but in the Kingdom of God. |
Re: Christians Brother Gets Owned By Lucas Bashir by AntiChristian: 12:38pm On Aug 12, 2021 |
Kobojunkie: The same new agreement that said he was sent only to the lost sheep of Israel? Maybe a typo sha! |
Re: Christians Brother Gets Owned By Lucas Bashir by Kobojunkie: 12:42pm On Aug 12, 2021 |
AntiChristian:No, it was not a typo of any kind. Jesus Christ was sent to pay the ransom for those of the lost sheep of Israel and this He did with His very life... so as to buy them from the Old Covenant Law which they were ladened with and into the New Covenant, which He embodies. So His life and death was to the Lost sheep of Israel - the mission He had only to the Jewish sinners ended with His life on the cross. However, His resurrection was to all of mankind. |
Re: Christians Brother Gets Owned By Lucas Bashir by AntiChristian: 12:45pm On Aug 12, 2021 |
Kobojunkie: Where did Jesus explicitly states all these and to whom? |
Re: Christians Brother Gets Owned By Lucas Bashir by Kobojunkie: 12:45pm On Aug 12, 2021 |
AntiChristian:State what in particular? |
Re: Christians Brother Gets Owned By Lucas Bashir by AntiChristian: 12:47pm On Aug 12, 2021 |
Kobojunkie: You last claim that I boldened. |
Re: Christians Brother Gets Owned By Lucas Bashir by Kobojunkie: 12:53pm On Aug 12, 2021 |
AntiChristian:I think it is best I should say that it was revealed to me about reading through many of of books of scripture - from old to new. |
Re: Christians Brother Gets Owned By Lucas Bashir by AntiChristian: 1:00pm On Aug 12, 2021 |
Kobojunkie: |
Re: Christians Brother Gets Owned By Lucas Bashir by Kobojunkie: 1:22pm On Aug 12, 2021 |
AntiChristian:Let me try! 1. Those of the blood of Jacob were born bound to the Old Covenant Law, an everlasting Covenant with God that only ended with their death. They were sealed in from the moment of their conception to the moment of their death or eternity depending on how they lived life here on earth. 2. Those of them who died in sin were condemned to perish in the grave aka cease to exist whereas those who obtained righteousness were promised eternal life and life forever in the land of Canaan - Deuteronomy 30 vs 15 - 20. This means that the only way to be rid of the heavy burden of the Old Law, without penalty, is through fulfillment of the Law(righteousness and death). This is true even to this day for all sons of Israel. 3. Jesus Christ was promised as a way out of the Old Law onto a New agreement with God. However, it Is against God's Old Covenant Law of Moses to add to, changed or remove commandments from the Law - no man has the authority to do that. so Jesus Christ had to - this on behalf of those whom He was sent to free from the Old Law - first provide for them a way off the Old agreement so they could then be ported over to the New agreement. 4. To do this, Jesus Christ lived His life in fulfillment of the Old Covenant laws(righteousness and death) - he had to die to complete the misson- recall that the only way for those born into the Old Covenant to escape it without perishing was through righteousness and then death. Jesus Christ's death on the cross was the fulfillment of the Old Covenant Law. So, Jesus Christ's death paid the Ransom they owed to the Old Law and as God said in Jeremiah 31 vs 34, He, God, will forgive them and will remember those sins no more. 34 People will not have to teach their neighbors and relatives to know the Lord, because all people, from the least important to the most important, will know me.” This message is from the Lord. “I will forgive them for the evil things they did. I will not remember their sins. - Jeremiah 31 vs 34 5. So Jesus Christ's death was an offering on behalf of those who would chose Him, the New agreement, freeing them from their responsibilities to the Old Covenant Law - those of them who accept Jesus Christ are , by His sacrifice, made dead to the Old Law and alive to the New agreement through His resurrection. |
Re: Christians Brother Gets Owned By Lucas Bashir by oluwaahmed: 1:50pm On Aug 12, 2021 |
U left the whitemans religion for the wahabi religion. You are in serious need of mental emancipation. |
Re: Christians Brother Gets Owned By Lucas Bashir by AntiChristian: 10:01am On Aug 17, 2021 |
oluwaahmed: What does wahabi mean? |
Re: Christians Brother Gets Owned By Lucas Bashir by Kobojunkie: 9:18pm On Dec 15, 2022 |
AntiChristian:It wasn't a typo at all. Jesus Christ is the good shepherd whose job it is to gather the lost sheep of Israel from every tribe, every tongue, and every nation. Indeed, Jesus Christ's mission is to the lost sheep of Israel, Israel's children who were scattered, by God, to all the ends of the earth - to every tribe, every tongue, and every nation out there. 19 I will put a mark on some of the people. I will send some of these saved people to the nations of Tarshish, Libya, Lud (the land of archers), Tubal, Greece, and all the faraway lands. Those people have never heard my teachings. They have never seen my Glory. So the saved people will tell the nations about my glory.The lost sheep of Israel are gentiles too who have the blood of Jacob in them. And they are to be found in every nation. That is what God said make clear even right in His Law of Moses. He would scatter them, and He would, later on, gather them back when the time is right. So, as Jesus Christ made clear through His teachings and the fact that He called His followers to be fishers of men implying that He did not come for everyone, He is indeed sent only to the lost sheep of Israel, and the man standing right next to you right this minute could be one of them. |
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