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Re: TB Joshua: Chris Okotie Is A Disgrace, Has Mental Problem - Prophet Iginla by Iliya1520: 1:14am On Aug 16, 2021
"How do you talk about the dead in this manner? How? Don't you know that those who live in Glass houses don't throw stones at others who live in Glass houses?"
Please if you know that u are a magician don't throw stone at another magician.
Re: TB Joshua: Chris Okotie Is A Disgrace, Has Mental Problem - Prophet Iginla by Iliya1520: 1:14am On Aug 16, 2021
"How do you talk about the dead in this manner? How? Don't you know that those who live in Glass houses don't throw stones at others who live in Glass houses?"
Please if you know that u are a magician don't throw stone at another magician.
Re: TB Joshua: Chris Okotie Is A Disgrace, Has Mental Problem - Prophet Iginla by SeriouslySense(m): 1:23am On Aug 16, 2021
They are showing themselves.

otokx:
These people have come again.
Re: TB Joshua: Chris Okotie Is A Disgrace, Has Mental Problem - Prophet Iginla by IbnBattuta1960: 1:27am On Aug 16, 2021
aribisala0:
That is Eegboes for you
You have a brain, please use it.
Re: TB Joshua: Chris Okotie Is A Disgrace, Has Mental Problem - Prophet Iginla by Realhommie(m): 1:41am On Aug 16, 2021
Eviana:
I saw a video (by Pastor Okotie-whom I'd never heard of before Nairaland) regarding the late Mr. Joshua and it was biblically and intellectually outstanding and very convincing.
He appeared very sound and used the Bible effectively.....from a biblical standpoint I must say.
This is from someone (me) looking from the "outside in". His argument/point was very well proven scripturally.

I don't know anything else about him or the other two men who profess Christianity, however this behavior of calling names...."mental problem" and threatening physical harm of "a dirty slap" is unacceptable and saddening....
It's so weird to me.
Agree to disagree (as mature adults) and move on.
This is one of the reasons why I can't grasp the majority--- (not all) of the Nigerian brand of Christianity.....practiced there.
Not a good look for Nigeria...
I thought i was the only one. Honestly i was wowed by his intellect and knowledge, he was very eloquent and direct. His argument is spot on from a biblical/scriptural standpoint...

You counter people's opinion/argument with a superior argument and not by resorting to name calling or threat of physical harm. Look at the people coming out in defense of Joshua,, calling Okotie names, check their ministeries and personal lifestyles, they also have many baggages.

Until someone else comes up with a better/superior counter argument I'm tempted to want to agree with Chris Okotie on T.B Joshua..

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Re: TB Joshua: Chris Okotie Is A Disgrace, Has Mental Problem - Prophet Iginla by IbnBattuta1960: 1:43am On Aug 16, 2021
Eviana:

I don't know anything else about him or the other two men who profess Christianity, however this behavior of calling names...."mental problem" and threatening physical harm of "a dirty slap" is unacceptable and saddening....
It's so weird to me.
Agree to disagree (as mature adults) and move on.
This is one of the reasons why I can't grasp the majority--- (not all) of the Nigerian brand of Christianity.....practiced there.
Not a good look for Nigeria...
Anything Nigeria has a different connotation.
Most people (including those on this thread) are tongue lashing okotie because the iganla guy is of their tribe.
If Okotie's claim is an offence, then prayer 101 (the Lord's prayer) teaches any christian to forgive an offense.
The people of 9ja are easily scammed using religion. Maybe because they are the most foolish people on earth.

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Re: TB Joshua: Chris Okotie Is A Disgrace, Has Mental Problem - Prophet Iginla by Realhommie(m): 1:47am On Aug 16, 2021
naijapatriot:
Inasmuch as there is a lot of undesirables in Okotie's ministry, he does make some scripturally valid points that every Christian should ponder upon. Here are some of those points:
1. Can a man be born-again from the mother's womb. The Bible disagrees with this. Yes folks like John the Baptist were anointed from the womb, they were not born-again from the womb. The definition of born-again is to confess Jesus, and believe in one's heart his atoning death on our behalf. There is a reason it has the word "again", because it is a second birth that comes after the natural. To say we are born again from the womb is to say one was born without the adamic sin nature which really equates that person with JESUS CHRIST.

Please and please dear people, take away your biases and look at this with a scriptural lens.

2. Does philanthropy equate piety? Please do not get me wrong folks. Yes, philanthropy is part of the christian work....God anointed Jesus Christ and he went about doing good - But, let's not equate this with God's seal on a man. Let's not forget that false prophets also perform good works to endear themselves to men...The pharisees also did a lot of good to be seen and praised by men.


There is a lot I will want to say, but I can't type again now. May God help us to discern, and to faithfully follow him.
Amen
Thanks so much for daring to see and speak differently... The issue here is that that so many Nigerians are unable to think or reason issues critically. Again, there's the herd mentality where many also seem to go in one particular direction and lastly once you're loved then you can do no wrong in the eyes of many (we see this play out everyday especially here on this forum)...
Re: TB Joshua: Chris Okotie Is A Disgrace, Has Mental Problem - Prophet Iginla by IbnBattuta1960: 1:50am On Aug 16, 2021
Just to add, to my comment above:
If Yeshua died to connect you back to God, then, can you imagine what it is to have a relationship with the Creator of the world? As a join heir with Son?
But in reality, 9ja christian is stuck at the bottom of his/her pastor's table waiting helplessly for crumbs.
Why is that so? Love for things of this world is you ask me.
Re: TB Joshua: Chris Okotie Is A Disgrace, Has Mental Problem - Prophet Iginla by Laggatumuch(m): 1:53am On Aug 16, 2021
This topic we had christians commenting, you wouldn't argue and be blind to the truth if you actually had the holy spirit, our weakness of not knowing the God we serve is quite glaring by reading the comments here.Remember it is the holy spirit that reveals christ to us. Knowing fake and genuine is very easy if you are one with the holyspirit. I see people quoting scriptures and preaching everywhere in this forum, remember when you are one with the holy spirit , it is not just your mouth that preach but your life . Because your life has to reflect the fruits of the holyspirit, your life wins more soul for the kingdom of God than just your word. Since you preach christ we ought to see it in your life and not just your comments. You can be a genuine christian yet because of your hate for others your christianity becomes questionable. Quote scriptures from now till tomorrow , prophesy , do miracles using the power of the holyspirit and still go to hell because you lack love. Christianity and love can't be separated. Me saying all this i'm the worst sinner on earth , you all are more righteous than me, lord jesus please forgive me my sins, i ask for mercy.

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Re: TB Joshua: Chris Okotie Is A Disgrace, Has Mental Problem - Prophet Iginla by Realhommie(m): 1:58am On Aug 16, 2021
Eviana:




I was speaking from a scriptural context.

Correct--I know nothing else about their "beef".
I stand by the fact that arguing back and forth and calling names and inviting violence (regardless of WHO is doing it) is wrong..
Appreciate you making me aware of that "years-long beef" though.
What beef really because Joshua hardly ever replied any critic. If you listen to the clip very carefully you'd hear Okotie say he called Joshua's bluff 20 years ago and he was actually one of the first if not the first to do so.

Everything he said are the things some of the top and popular Christian leaders already thought of Joshua, while a few of them were bold enough to speak out the majority held their views to themselves and would rather speak in a hush hush manner. If you saw clips of Joshua's early days in ministry you'd be tempted to want to agree with what Mr Chris said about him. He was nothing short of a magician but he was eventually packaged. What endeared him to the hearts of millions around the world was his philanthropy..

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Re: TB Joshua: Chris Okotie Is A Disgrace, Has Mental Problem - Prophet Iginla by Realhommie(m): 2:05am On Aug 16, 2021
SURElee:
Okotie own is too much self. Wetin? Is Jesus suddenly tired of being the judge and stepped down for Okotie to Judge TB Joshua?

The same Okotie with 2 failed marriages? The same Okotie who married a widow with kids who didn't adopt her kids along? Who separated the kids from their mother in a so-called marriage? The same Okotie who later chased his second wife away called her a witch and stripped her of all gifts he ever showered on her?


This Okotie should please go sit down somewhere o!


He should allow Jesus to be the judge.

He heard from God about being president. He heard from God when he chose Stephanie Henshaw as wife also.

Okotie hands aren't clean also. Just as he waited for TB Joshua to die to begin to spew trash after his 2002 outlast on the said man and Chris Oyakhilome, that is how people will rise up to speak against him also.

What is so wrong with some clergy men set? When he was alive you attacked him, the same Joshua never payed you attention, he is with God today and you still wont allow him rest in peace and allow God be the judge?

Na wa o!
Agreed Okotie isn't perfect, just like everyone else. His imperfections and personal failings aside, you should take your time to see that video by him without any ounce of sentiment, it's about an hour and 15mins long.

Watch and listen with an open mind..

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Re: TB Joshua: Chris Okotie Is A Disgrace, Has Mental Problem - Prophet Iginla by SARSCoV2: 2:37am On Aug 16, 2021
Realhommie:
I thought i was the only one. Honestly i was wowed by his intellect and knowledge, he was very eloquent and direct. His argument is spot on from a biblical/scriptural standpoint...

You counter people's opinion/argument with a superior argument and not by resorting to name calling or threat of physical harm. Look at the people coming out in defense of Joshua,, calling Okotie names, check their ministeries and personal lifestyles, they also have many baggages.

Until someone else comes up with a better/superior counter argument I'm tempted to want to agree with Chris Okotie on T.B Joshua..

I will say something to you.... Dont trust anyone

I dont know Iginla or TB Joshua, But I know Okotie

If Okotie makes Heaven, everyone on Earth is going...

Their is no way God can deny that fact! If Okotie is a judgement criteria, the devil might be re-called to Heaven

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Re: TB Joshua: Chris Okotie Is A Disgrace, Has Mental Problem - Prophet Iginla by ofiko123(m): 3:12am On Aug 16, 2021
May God help Christianity in Nigeria..

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Re: TB Joshua: Chris Okotie Is A Disgrace, Has Mental Problem - Prophet Iginla by Moredanaconquer: 3:18am On Aug 16, 2021
FairlyUSEDpussy:
Lol........

Okotie's name sud be mentioned when trying to define a failure true true........

Nigga........said God revealed he had be the best president all dat while I was still in pry school.......

Done with school and service few yrs back.......but still hasn't gotten elected.......

Does dat mean is God is a liar??
May na PFN President God tell am.
Re: TB Joshua: Chris Okotie Is A Disgrace, Has Mental Problem - Prophet Iginla by omoadeleye(m): 3:19am On Aug 16, 2021
aribisala0:
Why not say your stuff and leave atheists out of it Mr Jesus Worshiper. Are you too afraid to say you are not a Muslim ? Your words were foolish

If you want to say you are the same faith say so directly and stop talking foolishly
Is your jesus better than Sango?

They were both men that were made into deities after they died
No difference
except one was a king and the other was a carpenter's son



Oga calm down.
Re: TB Joshua: Chris Okotie Is A Disgrace, Has Mental Problem - Prophet Iginla by akilo1: 3:27am On Aug 16, 2021
Who is okotie please? The man who said God have ordain him for president?

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Re: TB Joshua: Chris Okotie Is A Disgrace, Has Mental Problem - Prophet Iginla by moriss33(m): 3:36am On Aug 16, 2021
Make ur hatres for dem no end you ooo cuz it will be a very big shame.
aribisala0:
That is Eegboes for you
Re: TB Joshua: Chris Okotie Is A Disgrace, Has Mental Problem - Prophet Iginla by cardoctor(m): 3:49am On Aug 16, 2021
Dem don start
Re: TB Joshua: Chris Okotie Is A Disgrace, Has Mental Problem - Prophet Iginla by Handsum64: 4:12am On Aug 16, 2021
Nigerians and their so called pastors
Governments have allowed these fraudsters to molest the citizens unchallenged for far too long.
They remained unacceptable to no one
Re: TB Joshua: Chris Okotie Is A Disgrace, Has Mental Problem - Prophet Iginla by sledge001(m): 4:19am On Aug 16, 2021
Where is the Coronavirus abeg? Guess you're one of those gullible peeps believing the episodes bin thrown at u. Phase 1, 2, alpha, delta wtf.
Please use your head
Emu4life:
Pastoprenurs
Re: TB Joshua: Chris Okotie Is A Disgrace, Has Mental Problem - Prophet Iginla by PeaceJoyLove: 4:20am On Aug 16, 2021
Eviana:
I saw a video (by Pastor Okotie-whom I'd never heard of before Nairaland) regarding the late Mr. Joshua and it was biblically and intellectually outstanding and very convincing.
He appeared very sound and used the Bible effectively.....from a biblical standpoint I must say.
This is from someone (me) looking from the "outside in". His argument/point was very well proven scripturally.

I don't know anything else about him or the other two men who profess Christianity, however this behavior of calling names...."mental problem" and threatening physical harm of "a dirty slap" is unacceptable and saddening....
It's so weird to me.
Agree to disagree (as mature adults) and move on.
This is one of the reasons why I can't grasp the majority--- (not all) of the Nigerian brand of Christianity.....practiced there.
Not a good look for Nigeria...

I am not a follower of Joshua and I will never follow the two other men cos their action speaks better.

It is more saddening that some adults behave like kids and they want to say they are adults. You are one. And you deserve a hot slap right now.

To tell me you will give me a dirty slap is nothing to me. I'll look at you and say nothing. My own is to bring out facts. As long as facts are coming out, no shaking. My facts are my slaps. Chris Okoties is not worried about any dirty slap cos he knows when they all sit to discuss the word, he is more knowledgeable. And this is a fact after studying the three people involved. Even Joshua himself was not sound in the word.

I wonder the kind of christianity practised in the US myself. I want to question the US for what is going on ib Afghanistan, but as a christian, I had to check again. Hmmm. It is deeper. But the way you handle issues there too. Hmmm. What about the border issue in Texas? I can continue counting...tell me dont the so called adults deserve dirty slaps? But at the same time, the US is such an excellent nation. Meaning that there are different adults there making decisions and some deserve hot slaps.

And then to crown it, some say Jesus is Michael. I bet, they deserve some resounding hot slaps. Yes, they do. Something that is not written in the word, and you woke up one day to spread the lies. Tell me if such elders dont deserve it?

Ok. Einstein and the royal idiotaa called Andrew in the UK, and R. Kelly, the idiotass...so cos they are adults they dont deserved slaps? How can grown up adults reason with their third legs. Dont such deserve physical hot slaps? So, its R. Kelly you want to disagree with? Someone whose head needs to be slammed on a rock to open it up so fresh air can enter and they close it up again. That one spreading herpes around. If he had given you herpes you would have known how to slap idiootaaa adults like him.

Stop meddling with what you are ignorant about. I have told you many times. At times, your comments are super and meaning...but these days, you deserve hot slaps for many of your comments. FACT!

What you really dont know about, dont give out your opinion. And anyone who cannot control his or her tongue will be slapped. And it doesnt mehn physical harm. This you are getting here is a hot slap. And you will get more. I'm watching. Any more rubbish you post on this NL, I will slap you more. Be warned!

Goodluck!
Re: TB Joshua: Chris Okotie Is A Disgrace, Has Mental Problem - Prophet Iginla by bornalive: 4:33am On Aug 16, 2021
Chris Okotie has been a failure right from his school days from UNN reading law when he came up with his music career ' I need someone' . Failed in different marriages. His first wife left him and he ran to America to read theology. Failed in politics even when he claimed that God sent him to be the president of this country. Intact, he is a complete failure. What T. B. Joshua lived for and achieved during his lifetime, Okotie's generation cannot near a cent. Even a child
Re: TB Joshua: Chris Okotie Is A Disgrace, Has Mental Problem - Prophet Iginla by bornalive: 4:36am On Aug 16, 2021
bornalive:
Chris Okotie has been a failure right from his school days from UNN reading law when he came up with his music career ' I need someone' . Failed in different marriages.

His first wife left him and he ran to America to read theology. Failed in politics even when he claimed that God sent him to be the president of this country. Intact, he is, a complete failure. What T. B. Joshua lived for and achieved during his lifetime, Okotie's generation cannot near a cent.

Even a child, he could not father one. God is not an author of confusion.
Re: TB Joshua: Chris Okotie Is A Disgrace, Has Mental Problem - Prophet Iginla by Nobody: 4:38am On Aug 16, 2021
doctorexcel:
As much as i do not know tb joshua personally, i respect him because he is an embodiment of humanity unlike some god of men whose only interest is their pocket
note: am not an atheist, i attend rccg
Shame on you...tueehhhh

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Re: TB Joshua: Chris Okotie Is A Disgrace, Has Mental Problem - Prophet Iginla by helpee(m): 4:45am On Aug 16, 2021
naijapatriot:
Inasmuch as there is a lot of undesirables in Okotie's ministry, he does make some scripturally valid points that every Christian should ponder upon. Here are some of those points:
1. Can a man be born-again from the mother's womb. The Bible disagrees with this. Yes folks like John the Baptist were anointed from the womb, they were not born-again from the womb. The definition of born-again is to confess Jesus, and believe in one's heart his atoning death on our behalf. There is a reason it has the word "again", because it is a second birth that comes after the natural. To say we are born again from the womb is to say one was born without the adamic sin nature which really equates that person with JESUS CHRIST.

Please and please dear people, take away your biases and look at this with a scriptural lens.

2. Does philanthropy equate piety? Please do not get me wrong folks. Yes, philanthropy is part of the christian work....God anointed Jesus Christ and he went about doing good - But, let's not equate this with God's seal on a man. Let's not forget that false prophets also perform good works to endear themselves to men...The pharisees also did a lot of good to be seen and praised by men.


There is a lot I will want to say, but I can't type again now. May God help us to discern, and to faithfully follow him.
Amen
what is the meaning of these? Can you show us the video of TB Joshua saying he was born again from the mother's womb? In reality, you can be called from the womb...even before you were born ( Samuel, Samson, john the Baptist , even Jesus himself). Finally, being BORN AGAIN IS A PENTECOSTAL DOCTRINE. It was not known by any of the apostles. It was not known before the coming of pentecostal churches. What we did was water baptism which was what was done to Jesus and new converts. Jesus did not teach Born again as a doctrine. He only mentioned it once as a parable before Pentecostals started running around with it like a separate doctrine on its own so what you consider scripturally sound from Okotie is just an opinion.
2) When people were entering into heaven, Jesus did not say they were born again. He said...when I was hungry, you fed me. When I was naked, you clothed me, when I was sick you visited. If you know that scripture then you get your answer. You and I don't know wether TB joshua and Okotie are both wizards but we do know which of them fulfilled the above criteria and that is enough for us. The rest is left for God

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Re: TB Joshua: Chris Okotie Is A Disgrace, Has Mental Problem - Prophet Iginla by Isobug: 5:01am On Aug 16, 2021
aribisala0:
That is Eegboes for you
You're a con man to have said this. Is your life better than the eegboe? Hatred is Sin, whatever awaits a mindful murderer awaits a Hater.
By the way, Pastor Chris Okotie is from Delta State, even though he's a Delta eegboe
Re: TB Joshua: Chris Okotie Is A Disgrace, Has Mental Problem - Prophet Iginla by Darreytinho10(m): 5:31am On Aug 16, 2021
Some pastor need medical attention grin, thank you Brother Iginla
Re: TB Joshua: Chris Okotie Is A Disgrace, Has Mental Problem - Prophet Iginla by Etuagievin(m): 5:31am On Aug 16, 2021
aribisala0:
Why not say your stuff and leave atheists out of it Mr Jesus Worshiper. Are you too afraid to say you are not a Muslim ? Your words were foolish

If you want to say you are the same faith say so directly and stop talking foolishly
Is your jesus better than Sango?

They were both men that were made into deities after they died
No difference
except one was a king and the other was a carpenter's son
Christ is the son of God and is not to be worshipped like a deity. The almighty God Jehovah is the only one to be worshipped
Re: TB Joshua: Chris Okotie Is A Disgrace, Has Mental Problem - Prophet Iginla by christistruth01: 5:34am On Aug 16, 2021
aminulive:
POLITICSNIGERIA.COM



https://politicsnigeria.com/tb-joshua-chris-okotie-is-a-disgrace-has-mental-problem-prophet-iginla/


The Polygamous Iginla is a JuJu Priest posing as a Christian Pastor , T B Joshua was the Same thing and Okotie is at best a Pastor that backslided long ago what they are arguing over is only for Public Entertainment and has absolutely nothing to do with the Salvation of Jesus Christ

Odumeje who was telling off Okotie is another Spiritual Vagabond and Terrorist who cares nothing for the Truth of Christ's Gospel or Love

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Re: TB Joshua: Chris Okotie Is A Disgrace, Has Mental Problem - Prophet Iginla by Okhuadams(m): 5:38am On Aug 16, 2021
aminulive:
POLITICSNIGERIA.COM



https://politicsnigeria.com/tb-joshua-chris-okotie-is-a-disgrace-has-mental-problem-prophet-iginla/
for long he has not been heard e just wanted to use TBJ death to come back into relevance
Re: TB Joshua: Chris Okotie Is A Disgrace, Has Mental Problem - Prophet Iginla by favour32(m): 5:42am On Aug 16, 2021
Wetin pass you na your mate?
"Okotie!"
"TB Joshua na your mate?"

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