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Re: TB Joshua: Chris Okotie Is A Disgrace, Has Mental Problem - Prophet Iginla by aribisala0(m): 8:18am On Aug 16, 2021
GhostWisperer:
My father is a

Born fool!
Re: TB Joshua: Chris Okotie Is A Disgrace, Has Mental Problem - Prophet Iginla by thomasjoe(m): 8:41am On Aug 16, 2021
jamaicabakare:
Prophet Iginla should ignore Rev Chris Okotie...the man is a failure.

Music him fail
Marriage him fail
Politics him fail
Winning souls for Christ, Arsenal fc better pass am.

Yes you may want to ignore him but let's be sure of what we post.
Okotie was one of the most successful and influential musicians from his generation...going on to inspire the likes of Felix Liberty , The Sparks, Dizzy K, Terry Macson, and a retinue of others ...He helped popularize Nigerian pop music globally in the late 70s and early 80s; doing all these (and more) as an undergraduate student of Law in the university of Nsukka back then...He was our own Michael Jackson and we were very surprised when he dropped music to pursue his law and religious careers.
It's okay to share your opinions but don't be in a hurry to post what you're not sure of ...
Best wishes for a successful day ahead to you. God bless.

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Re: TB Joshua: Chris Okotie Is A Disgrace, Has Mental Problem - Prophet Iginla by akdjr(m): 8:48am On Aug 16, 2021
Just as we have rival musical artiste that's how all these Nigeria pastors are. No true love as practice by Jesus Christ. They kill Christ and created religion unexpectedly according to Jay Z
Re: TB Joshua: Chris Okotie Is A Disgrace, Has Mental Problem - Prophet Iginla by GhostWisperer: 8:55am On Aug 16, 2021
aribisala0:
go to your profile then check your posts. My post you edited is still credited as Your post.

I thought atheist are intelligent or pretend to be. You just called your own father a born fool grin It's an owl goal to you dimwitted dweeb.

Frustrated oaf!
Re: TB Joshua: Chris Okotie Is A Disgrace, Has Mental Problem - Prophet Iginla by FLYFIRE(m): 9:09am On Aug 16, 2021
Any DISCERNING Christian who has listened to Pst Chris's message on this will see the truth in it. It is ONLY people of Joshua's kind that will disagree with Pst Chris. It is TRULY the LST DAYS if Christians AND Christian LEADERS can line behind Joshua. I BELIEIVE GOD WANTS TO EXPOSE THOSE THAT ARE NOT HIS OWN WITH THIS

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Re: TB Joshua: Chris Okotie Is A Disgrace, Has Mental Problem - Prophet Iginla by Lavidalo: 9:15am On Aug 16, 2021
Spot on
Re: TB Joshua: Chris Okotie Is A Disgrace, Has Mental Problem - Prophet Iginla by Fahdiga(m): 9:31am On Aug 16, 2021
Ezmans:
they are exposing them selves
Exactly
Re: TB Joshua: Chris Okotie Is A Disgrace, Has Mental Problem - Prophet Iginla by bluebay(m): 9:43am On Aug 16, 2021
BassReeves:
TB Joshua is the disgrace, with mental problem
You nor normal… That’s how people will talk about your father, when he dies….
Re: TB Joshua: Chris Okotie Is A Disgrace, Has Mental Problem - Prophet Iginla by BassReeves: 9:48am On Aug 16, 2021
bluebay:
[s]You nor normal…
That’s how people will talk about your father, when he dies…. [/s]
The truth is a bitter pill to swallow for the piqued sheeple

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Re: TB Joshua: Chris Okotie Is A Disgrace, Has Mental Problem - Prophet Iginla by FreeSpirited: 9:53am On Aug 16, 2021
naijapatriot:
Inasmuch as there is a lot of undesirables in Okotie's ministry, he does make some scripturally valid points that every Christian should ponder upon. Here are some of those points:
1. Can a man be born-again from the mother's womb. The Bible disagrees with this. Yes folks like John the Baptist were anointed from the womb, they were not born-again from the womb. The definition of born-again is to confess Jesus, and believe in one's heart his atoning death on our behalf. There is a reason it has the word "again", because it is a second birth that comes after the natural. To say we are born again from the womb is to say one was born without the adamic sin nature which really equates that person with JESUS CHRIST.

Please and please dear people, take away your biases and look at this with a scriptural lens.

2. Does philanthropy equate piety? Please do not get me wrong folks. Yes, philanthropy is part of the christian work....God anointed Jesus Christ and he went about doing good - But, let's not equate this with God's seal on a man. Let's not forget that false prophets also perform good works to endear themselves to men...The pharisees also did a lot of good to be seen and praised by men.


There is a lot I will want to say, but I can't type again now. May God help us to discern, and to faithfully follow him.
Amen
You are discerning rubbish.
Most of u after typing bullshit usually end it with discerning...nonsense....u are not discerning shit, ur just spewing prejudice wit Bible verse to support ur hatred for him.. nonsense Christian.
Jesus said don't judge so u won't be judged. Bible said judgement belong to God

...u have no single evidence against this man....yet u keep judging this man till death, even after death. Haba. U idiots are useless.
Re: TB Joshua: Chris Okotie Is A Disgrace, Has Mental Problem - Prophet Iginla by mechanics(m): 10:02am On Aug 16, 2021
Hmmmmm.
Re: TB Joshua: Chris Okotie Is A Disgrace, Has Mental Problem - Prophet Iginla by Sparkle777(f): 10:16am On Aug 16, 2021
aribisala0:
That is Eegboes for you
He is NOT Igbo. I just held myself from seriously insulting u and ur lineage.
Re: TB Joshua: Chris Okotie Is A Disgrace, Has Mental Problem - Prophet Iginla by aribisala0(m): 10:36am On Aug 16, 2021
Sparkle777:

He is NOT Igbo. I just held myself from seriously insulting u and ur lineage.
Clearly your lineage have no value to you

Why are you telling me he is not Igbo
Did I say he is Igbo?
Re: TB Joshua: Chris Okotie Is A Disgrace, Has Mental Problem - Prophet Iginla by bodybuilder: 10:37am On Aug 16, 2021
Hayqiu010:
Come for your data
How is it cheap when it's more expensive than the normal data price from Airtel?
Re: TB Joshua: Chris Okotie Is A Disgrace, Has Mental Problem - Prophet Iginla by aribisala0(m): 10:38am On Aug 16, 2021
Sparkle777:

He is NOT Igbo. I just held myself from seriously insulting u and ur lineage.
Clearly your lineage have no value to you
If you try insulting my lineage you will never do well in life .
You will be best friends with misery and failure

Why are you telling me he is not Igbo
Did I say he is Igbo?
He is Eegboe
Re: TB Joshua: Chris Okotie Is A Disgrace, Has Mental Problem - Prophet Iginla by prophetwis: 11:51am On Aug 16, 2021
I am still waiting for any of those Pastors criticizing Pastor Okotie to counter the valid points he raised with scriptures and stop being emotional. Everything he said were scripturally backed and correct and takes only those who are scripturally sound to comprehend .Sadly sound biblical exegeses is lacking in today's Church no wonder only the ''prophets'' are the ones criticizing him.

Eviana:
I saw a video (by Pastor Okotie-whom I'd never heard of before Nairaland) regarding the late Mr. Joshua and it was biblically and intellectually outstanding and very convincing.
He appeared very sound and used the Bible effectively.....from a biblical standpoint I must say.
This is from someone (me) looking from the "outside in". His argument/point was very well proven scripturally.

I don't know anything else about him or the other two men who profess Christianity, however this behavior of calling names...."mental problem" and threatening physical harm of "a dirty slap" is unacceptable and saddening....
It's so weird to me.
Agree to disagree (as mature adults) and move on.
This is one of the reasons why I can't grasp the majority--- (not all) of the Nigerian brand of Christianity.....practiced there.
Not a good look for Nigeria...

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Re: TB Joshua: Chris Okotie Is A Disgrace, Has Mental Problem - Prophet Iginla by donbenie(m): 12:00pm On Aug 16, 2021
Ronzy1990:
...EXCEPT AT THE MENTION OF THE NAME OF JESUS, THINGS TURN AROUND FOR THE BETTER!
And with all the Jesus,Nigerians has been shouting since eternity,how have things been for the country?
Re: TB Joshua: Chris Okotie Is A Disgrace, Has Mental Problem - Prophet Iginla by prophetwis: 12:02pm On Aug 16, 2021
Pastor Okotie is arguably the best Bible teacher in Nigeria ,After I read his book ''The Last Outcast'' as a child those days ,I knew that this is it.Those criticizing him cannot even stand him in an argument when it comes to the scripture. Saying Okotie is a failure in Ministry is laughable as most of those saying such cannot even qualify as Sunday school teachers in his ministry.
Realhommie:
I thought i was the only one. Honestly i was wowed by his intellect and knowledge, he was very eloquent and direct. His argument is spot on from a biblical/scriptural standpoint...

You counter people's opinion/argument with a superior argument and not by resorting to name calling or threat of physical harm. Look at the people coming out in defense of Joshua,, calling Okotie names, check their ministeries and personal lifestyles, they also have many baggages.

Until someone else comes up with a better/superior counter argument I'm tempted to want to agree with Chris Okotie on T.B Joshua..

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Re: TB Joshua: Chris Okotie Is A Disgrace, Has Mental Problem - Prophet Iginla by Ronzy1990(m): 12:54pm On Aug 16, 2021
donbenie:
And with all the Jesus,Nigerians has been shouting since eternity,how have things been for the country?
I am enjoying my life shouting Jesus. So when you say "Nigerians". WELL I AM NOT PART OF THEM. AT 31, I HAVE A PRETTY WIFE, A HANDSOME SON, 3 CARS 2LANDED PROPERTIES...to mention a few (YES! I am counting my blessings). I got all this serving JESUS. I am in this country, but I operate by different set of rules set by CHRIST!

So my Bro, I don't know what you are talking about! grin
Re: TB Joshua: Chris Okotie Is A Disgrace, Has Mental Problem - Prophet Iginla by IbnBattuta1960: 1:03pm On Aug 16, 2021
aribisala0:
You don't that is why I use mine for both of us. You should be grateful
God forbid.
You see coke call am fanta? For your tiny mind.
1. Okotie is not igbo.
2. What has this got to do with tribe?
3. Your issue are in two dimensions: you are daft and you do not realise that you are daft. Get help, fast.
Re: TB Joshua: Chris Okotie Is A Disgrace, Has Mental Problem - Prophet Iginla by helpee(m): 1:06pm On Aug 16, 2021
prophetwis:
I am still waiting for any of those Pastors criticizing Pastor Okotie to counter the valid points he raised with scriptures and stop being emotional. Everything he said were scripturally backed and correct and takes only those who are scripturally sound to comprehend .Sadly sound biblical exegeses is lacking in today's Church no wonder only the ''prophets'' are the ones criticizing him.

Just tell me a single thing he said that is scripturally correct and I will debunk it for you. You guys don't even understand the Bible. you convert the opinion of men to scriptures
Re: TB Joshua: Chris Okotie Is A Disgrace, Has Mental Problem - Prophet Iginla by aribisala0(m): 1:08pm On Aug 16, 2021
prophetwis:
I am still waiting for any of those Pastors criticizing Pastor Okotie to counter the valid points he raised with scriptures and stop being emotional. Everything he said were scripturally backed and correct and takes only those who are scripturally sound to comprehend .Sadly sound biblical exegeses is lacking in today's Church no wonder only the ''prophets'' are the ones criticizing him.

The same "scriptures" tell us that Muslims will go to hell? Is that true or false.?
Why don't Christian clerics like Okotie emphasize that ? Are they afraid?
You are choosing to be pedantic when it suits .

This is not about whether it is right or wrong . That is autistic thinking
We do not go around telling people they have body odour because "we are right"
We use wisdom in human affairs. Something those same "scriptures" emphasize
Those same "scriptures" say Judge not!!, also say Let he without sin cast the first stone

Anyone can twist "scriptures"

Is it not the same "scriptures" that Daddy Freeze has been quoting and people are hating him upandan
Re: TB Joshua: Chris Okotie Is A Disgrace, Has Mental Problem - Prophet Iginla by aribisala0(m): 1:24pm On Aug 16, 2021
He claime Joshua took the name Joshua for a particular reason. He did not provide evidence of that?

Everything he said even worse from his "scriptural" perspective would apply to Muhammad the "prophet" who claims Jesus "son of Mary " is a prophet and not the son of God

Why does he not dare say anything against Muhammad
Re: TB Joshua: Chris Okotie Is A Disgrace, Has Mental Problem - Prophet Iginla by Realhommie(m): 2:04pm On Aug 16, 2021
prophetwis:
Pastor Okotie is arguably the best Bible teacher in Nigeria ,After I read his book ''The Last Outcast'' as a child those days ,I knew that this is it.Those criticizing him cannot even stand him in an argument when it comes to the scripture. Saying Okotie is a failure in Ministry is laughable as most of those saying such cannot even qualify as Sunday school teachers in his ministry.
You're not wrong at all. I'm never deleting that video from my YouTube library because in there is so much knowledge, insight on God, Jesus, Christianity and the word/Bible.

What a great exposition.
Re: TB Joshua: Chris Okotie Is A Disgrace, Has Mental Problem - Prophet Iginla by itu404(m): 2:29pm On Aug 16, 2021
ScotMisile:
Islamists doing their work on nairaland.

The rate at which Islamist creeps into subject concerning clergy men and pastors, abuse them, call them names is becoming alarming. Always aggressive, always spoiling for war, always always always.... yet only by embracing the truth you shall be set free.
Re: TB Joshua: Chris Okotie Is A Disgrace, Has Mental Problem - Prophet Iginla by itu404(m): 2:38pm On Aug 16, 2021
For those who want to know the truth.. Okotie is the only Nigerian pastor who has the nature of a true prophet and teacher.
One he was the only pastor who call out TB Joshua 20 years ago as fake while other secretly fears TB Joshua's power yet he survived.
He was the only one who called out Chris Oyakhilome of Christ embassy for associating with T.B joshua while other were mute.
He was the only one who came out to biblically explained why TB joshua is a false prophet while other could not convince us with bible references.
Okotie is one of the finest men of God in NIgeria ... not building universities and flying jets and saying my God is not a poor God... teach us to know this God!
God bless you, Okotie may all your enemies never bring you down, just like the enemies of Jesus never succeeded.
Love you, man of GOD, carry on the lord is with you!
REV. Okotie is in a class of his own as a pastor. Do your investigation in the light of biblical truth.
Re: TB Joshua: Chris Okotie Is A Disgrace, Has Mental Problem - Prophet Iginla by itu404(m): 2:49pm On Aug 16, 2021
aribisala0:

Iginla did not insult Chris.

He just evaluated him clinically
As a doctor or what .. we want facts not empty and verbose words, you are not here talking to idiots and fools. Okotie convinced the intelligent community using and quoting all you could say is he is mental case..go back to seminary...go read this place from your bible

Acts 26:23-24 That Christ should suffer, and that he should be the first that should rise from the dead, and should shew light unto the people, and to the Gentiles. And as he thus spake for himself, Festus said with a loud voice, Paul, thou art beside thyself; much learning doth make thee mad........Those who are ignorants like you lots here always call others with superior knowledge names just like Aginla.
I rest my case.
Re: TB Joshua: Chris Okotie Is A Disgrace, Has Mental Problem - Prophet Iginla by starz100: 4:26pm On Aug 16, 2021
Obviously, Okotie wants to use T. B Joshua to shine, but he is getting some backlash already. Apostle Paul did not just confront Bar Jesus the sorcerer, he exposed him Acts 13:9-10.If Chris Okotie is what he claims to be, why did he not replicate what the Apostle did in the book of Acts, in the case of TB Joshua. Why wait till he is dead before you start to spew venom.
Whether TB Joshua is magician or not is left for God to judge.
Re: TB Joshua: Chris Okotie Is A Disgrace, Has Mental Problem - Prophet Iginla by Eviana(f): 5:18pm On Aug 16, 2021
IbnBattuta1960:

Anything Nigeria has a different connotation.
Most people (including those on this thread) are tongue lashing okotie because the iganla guy is of their tribe.
If Okotie's claim is an offence, then prayer 101 (the Lord's prayer) teaches any christian to forgive an offense.
The people of 9ja are easily scammed using religion. Maybe because they are the most foolish people on earth.

I see....so tribal bigotry or pledged allegiance--regardless, comes into play here.... interesting.
I wouldn't say, however that Nigerians are the most "foolish" in the world...could never and will never say that.
I do think, however, that many are gullible and trusting because they are not personally searching the scriptures prayerfully to see what the Lord says.
They have dangerously placed "man" above the Lord God and His Word.
I think due to extreme poverty, and looking to "religious" leaders for hope, freedom and miracles for TEMPORAL riches rather than spiritual treasures (which many leaders promise, yet the scriptures do not teach) is what causes the blinders to stay on and the willful "ignorance" to continue.
I say all of that with a concerned heart.
Religious leaders (if truly called by God) have a place within the structure of the church.
The problem is many are not called by God.... unfortunately.
Re: TB Joshua: Chris Okotie Is A Disgrace, Has Mental Problem - Prophet Iginla by Eviana(f): 5:21pm On Aug 16, 2021
prophetwis:
I am still waiting for any of those Pastors criticizing Pastor Okotie to counter the valid points he raised with scriptures and stop being emotional. Everything he said were scripturally backed and correct and takes only those who are scripturally sound to comprehend .Sadly sound biblical exegeses is lacking in today's Church no wonder only the ''prophets'' are the ones criticizing him.


Agreed....the bold is all that I was saying.
I had to acknowledge "truth" in what the pastor said.
Re: TB Joshua: Chris Okotie Is A Disgrace, Has Mental Problem - Prophet Iginla by Eviana(f): 5:36pm On Aug 16, 2021
Realhommie:
I thought i was the only one. Honestly i was wowed by his intellect and knowledge, he was very eloquent and direct. His argument is spot on from a biblical/scriptural standpoint...

You counter people's opinion/argument with a superior argument and not by resorting to name calling or threat of physical harm. Look at the people coming out in defense of Joshua,, calling Okotie names, check their ministeries and personal lifestyles, they also have many baggages.

Until someone else comes up with a better/superior counter argument I'm tempted to want to agree with Chris Okotie on T.B Joshua..

It takes the power of Christ in order to stand steadfast in the Lord...and His Word....the truth.
The majority are afraid.... unfortunately.
I am definitely gonna research the other two people and see why they are so angry.

I came across the video of Pastor Okotie on another site and wanted to see how he would approach his claim.
I was impressed at how he explained and used scripture to address this situation.
Don't know this man from "Adam".
I also don't know a thing about the man's personal life....not even gonna think that he is a perfect person.
Clearly, I am reading the claims against him on this thread.
He appears "flawed" like 100 percent of us human beings....
His "flaws" , however, don't negate the truth of God's Word and how brilliantly he did it (in this subject)....of which you and I are in agreement.
Re: TB Joshua: Chris Okotie Is A Disgrace, Has Mental Problem - Prophet Iginla by IbnBattuta1960: 6:02pm On Aug 16, 2021
Eviana:


I see....so tribal bigotry or pledged allegiance--regardless, comes into play here.... interesting.
I wouldn't say, however that Nigerians are the most "foolish" in the world...could never and will never say that.
I do think, however, that many are gullible and trusting because they are not personally searching the scriptures prayerfully to see what the Lord says.
They have dangerously placed "man" above the Lord God and His Word.
I think due to extreme poverty, and looking to "religious" leaders for hope, freedom and miracles for TEMPORAL riches rather than spiritual treasures (which many leaders promise, yet the scriptures do not teach) is what causes the blinders to stay on and the willful "ignorance" to continue.
I say all of that with a concerned heart.
Religious leaders (if truly called by God) have a place within the structure of the church.
The problem is many are not called by God.... unfortunately.
I sense you are either not of 9ja or you've been away for a long time.
9ja do not address issues. It's very evident. They will introduce sentiments rather than objective and critical response. Permit my digression. Your response touched me. I've not seen such in along time. Devoid of sentiment, critical, objective...
I added an opinion after the one you responded to. It's 100% in agreement with your thinking.

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