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TEST THE SPIRITS

1John.4.1 - Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God...

One day a lady was in meditation when she fell into a trance. She saw a being coming towards her, and she presumed it was Jesus. She said the being was so beautiful, and glorious.

As it got close to her, it said to her; I am Jesus, I will die for you. She wondered, and replied; but Jesus has died for me already. Immediately she said that, the being who was so glorious revealed its true form, and it was an evil Spirit.

In her book, Divine revelation of hell, Mary Baxter, narrated how an unclean spirit appeared like an angel of light to a woman, telling her that if she becomes mean and wicked, he would take her to Paradise. Unfortunately, the Woman died and ended up in hell. 2Cor 11:14.

We should not just receive, or follow any revelation, vision or teaching that is not inline with Gods word, no matter who or what is giving or saying it. Let's be like the Berean Christian's and search the Scriptures. Acts 17:11

Dangerousboy:
TEST THE SPIRITS

1John.4.1 - Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God...

If you are going to quote John at least be sure to include the particular tests prescribed by him where it comes to his idea of testing the spirits.

My dear friends, many false prophets are in the world now. So don’t believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see if they are from God
. 2 This is how you can recognize God’s Spirit. One spirit says, “I believe that Jesus is the Messiah who came to earth and became a man.” That Spirit is from God.. 3 Another spirit refuses to say this about Jesus. That spirit is not from God. This is the spirit of the enemy of Christ. You have heard that the enemy of Christ is coming, and now he is already in the world.- 1 John 4 vs 1 - 3

In the examples you gave, none of the accounts depicts the spirits in question saying anything similar of Jesus Christ. None of the examples you gave employed John's prescribed spirit-litmus test, so how can we believe any of the stories as they don't conform to the truth supposedly introduced here by John?

Kobojunkie:
If you are going to quote John at least be sure to include the particular tests prescribed by him where it comes to his idea of testing the spirits.
In the examples you gave, none of the accounts depicts the spirits in question saying anything similar of Jesus Christ. None of the examples you gave employed John's prescribed spirit-litmus test, so how can we believe any of the stories as they don't conform to the truth supposedly introduced here by John?

I said use the scriptures to test the spirits. If you want to use John's proscription, fine. But I wonder what your arguing?

Dangerousboy:
I said use the scriptures to test the spirits. If you want to use John's proscription, fine. But I wonder what your arguing?

Oh, you are suggesting your own rule here. Are you certain that is a good idea since the enemy knows scripture better than many do.

John's test is simple and easy to use, and can be easily verified by applying the law of 2 or 3 witnesses which Jesus Christ gave to us, where in this case, John would be the first witness and and one using his test would be the second witness. Basically, if anyone who follows Jesus Christ uses what John prescribes and receives the very response that John stated, then the tester can easily conclude the test valid - truth established.

Your suggestion however leaves a person unsure since result is left open to interpretation. Since the enemy knows scripture, one might end up easily deceived or stuck in an endless loop trying to find the weak link.

Kobojunkie:
Oh, you are suggesting your own rule here. Are you certain that is a good idea since the enemy knows scripture better than many do.

John's test is simple and easy to use, and can be easily verified by applying the law of 2 or 3 witnesses which Jesus Christ gave to us, where in this case, John would be the first witness and and one using his test would be the second witness. Basically, if anyone who follows Jesus Christ uses what John prescribes and receives the very response that John stated, then the tester can easily conclude the test valid - truth established.

Your suggestion however leaves a person unsure since result is left open to interpretation. Since the enemy knows scripture, one might end up easily deceived or stuck in an endless loop trying to find the weak link.

I have written all I have to write on this topic. The Holy Spirit will enlighten those who are willing to receive the word unbiasedly.
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Dangerousboy:
I have written all I have to write on this topic. The Holy Spirit will enlighten those who are willing to receive the word unbiasedly..

Didn't Jesus Christ teach you that the Spirit of Truth will teach that Truth which is of Jesus Christ and Christ alone?

You threw out your own formulae were it concerns the issue of testing of spirits, an idea, not put forward by Jesus Christ but by John, and you expect the Holy Spirit to complete the lesson how?

God be praised