Re: Is Once Saved, Always Saved Biblical? Prince Gabriel Okocha by Godly247(m): 12:40pm On Aug 22, 2021 |
musicwriter: To be saved means to be saved from the fraud called Jesus. The moment you discover that Jesus is a fraud that's when you get saved.
That's what it means to be saved and once saved you'll be saved as long as you don't go back to the (Christian) vomit. if this is done against ur so called akbomb faith of urs, you'll draw sword, gun and bomb...YOU NEED DELIVERANCE FROM SERIOUSLY!!! |
Re: Is Once Saved, Always Saved Biblical? Prince Gabriel Okocha by madegreatbygrace(m): 12:51pm On Aug 22, 2021 |
quote author=efeteb post=105056256]Once saved always saved is not correct. Judas Iscariot was once saved, at the last minute he fast track the process of his destruction. There is Temporary and Permanent Salvation. ''He that endures to the end'' is the key to permanent salvation. How did you know Judas was saved? |
Re: Is Once Saved, Always Saved Biblical? Prince Gabriel Okocha by Kobojunkie: 12:52pm On Aug 22, 2021 |
Monogamy: Some people heh, after they claimed they have been saved, then they would be referring to themselves as a born again which in reality, they are simply burn again Born-again is simply a means by which one gains access to the Kingdom of God - John 3 vs 1 - 8 - either through the broad gate that leads to destruction or the narrow gate that leads to true life- Matthew 7 vs 13- 14 So do not let the word Born-again decieve you into believing such a person if of God as even the children of the devil- those on the way to Hell - are also Born-again. |
Re: Is Once Saved, Always Saved Biblical? Prince Gabriel Okocha by Toks2008(m): 12:55pm On Aug 22, 2021 |
Yes once saved is always saved EXCEPT YOU GIVE UP YOUR SALVATION BY YOURSELF.
I have written extensively on this on my many threads bothering on salvation. |
Re: Is Once Saved, Always Saved Biblical? Prince Gabriel Okocha by blacknoir: 1:01pm On Aug 22, 2021 |
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Re: Is Once Saved, Always Saved Biblical? Prince Gabriel Okocha by bomsilaga(m): 1:07pm On Aug 22, 2021 |
unstoppable51: Here is a Bible Study by Prince Gabriel Okocha (FeedMeJesus.com)
Can a saved person become unsaved? Is once saved always saved biblical?
What does the Bible say about Once Saved, Forever Saved? Let's find out!
Salvation in Christ is the very central goal of the Bible. It is the end-goal of Faith, Grace, Mercy and several other subjects of the scriptures.
"And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus." 2Ti 3:15 KJV
"Receiving the end of your faith, even the salvation of your souls. Of which salvation the prophets have enquired and searched diligently, who prophesied of the grace that should come unto you." 1Pe 1:9-10 KJV
The believer is instructed to properly study and understand it, and be diligent in teaching it.
"Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth." 2Ti 2:15 KJV
A proper understanding of the concept of Salvation as taught in the scriptures, will open up a well of unceasing joy in you. Your feet will be firm, not tossed about by every wind of doctrine. And like a tree planted by the riverside, you will grow and flourish in your walk with the Lord Jesus, bearing good fruits for Him.
So let's go back to answering the question we have at hand.
Is Once Saved, Always Saved Biblical?
The answer to this question largely depends on what you mean by "once saved, always saved"
This is because to some persons, the statement "once saved, always saved" is another way of saying "nothing you do as a Christian matters after salvation. The moment you are saved, you can go ahead and live as worldly as you want, you won't get punished for it. God doesn't and won't give a damn about that." This ideology is an error and certainly not what the "once saved, always saved" statement is all about.
In the real sense, "once saved, always saved" is a catchphrase that addresses the durability or eternal nature of the Salvation we received when we appropriated the sacrifice of Jesus Christ for our sin(s).
With this understanding of what the statement is truly about, let's then do justice to the question from the scriptures.
Is once saved, always saved really biblical?
In talking about the Salvation, Redemption or Eternal Life we have in Christ, the Bible repeatedly used the words "once", "everlasting", "forever", "eternal", "true" and "once and for all" to describe how it occurred and the longevity.
Pay close attention as you read through the Bible verses outlined below. Meditate on each of them briefly.
Joh 3:16 KJV For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
Joh 10:28-29 KJV 28 And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand. 29 My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand.
Heb 5:9 KJV And being made perfect, he became the author of eternal salvation unto all them that obey him.
Heb 9:12 KJV Neither by the blood of goats and calves, but by his own blood he entered in once into the holy place, having obtained eternal redemption for us.
Heb 9:15 KJV And for this cause he is the mediator of the new testament, that by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions that were under the first testament, they which are called might receive the promise of eternal inheritance.
Heb 10:10-14 KJV 10 By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all. 11 And every priest standeth daily ministering and offering oftentimes the same sacrifices, which can never take away sins: 12 But this man, after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of God; 13 From henceforth expecting till his enemies be made his footstool. 14 For by one offering he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified.
But can't a believer lose his Salvation and go to hell (perish) if he's not careful after he has been saved? You may ask.
In answer to that question, take a look at these verses one more time and meditate on them.
"And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand. My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand." John 10:28-29 KJV
The essence of Eternal Life is to keep the believer from perishing. Mind you, the believer is not the one keeping his Eternal Life from perishing. Eternal Life is actually what is keeping him from perishing. Whether he is careful how he lives his life on earth or not, that Eternal Life he has received continually keeps him from destruction.
However, a believer who foolishly lives in sin continually, will lose his rewards and will have nothing to show for his Salvation or Eternal Life in heaven.
Take note that I said he will lose his rewards in heaven, not his Salvation or Eternal Life. That is because the believer is committed with the responsibility of working for and keeping his heavenly rewards by living righteously on earth, not his Salvation or Eternal Life. That is God's part according to the scriptures.
Salvation (Eternal Life) is a gift he received on the basis of his Faith in the finished works of Christ, whereas heavenly rewards are dependent on his lifestyle while on earth here.
If he lives a godly lifestyle, a crown of glory awaits him in heaven. If he doesn't, he will not get anything reward from God in heaven though he is saved and shall spend eternity in heaven.
Eph 2:8-10 KJV 8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: 9 Not of works, lest any man should boast. 10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.
1Co 3:13-15 KJV 13 Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is. 14 If any man's work abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward. 15 If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire.
This is what the Bible teaches about Once Saved, Always Saved. It is purely biblical. Set aside any misconception you may have had about the catchphrase and see the eternal nature of Salvation as it has always been in the scriptures- open, simple and clear!
I hope this blesses you. Glory to God!
Source: https://www.feedmejesus.com/2021/08/is-once-saved-always-saved-biblical.html God will bless you for the balance in this message. 1 Like |
Re: Is Once Saved, Always Saved Biblical? Prince Gabriel Okocha by 5solas(m): 1:18pm On Aug 22, 2021 |
[quote author=unstoppable51 post=105048257][/quote] Blessed are your eyes. You are unstoppable! 1 Like |
Re: Is Once Saved, Always Saved Biblical? Prince Gabriel Okocha by Nobody: 1:18pm On Aug 22, 2021 |
naija4life247:
So once you are saved, you can then join the Yoruba Demons Association (YODA) and the Sweet Boys Association (SBA) and start sleeping with all Choir members both male and female because once saved, always saved.
Your head no correct. See this one. You are probably a very greedy person by nature. Me that has bleeped almost all the choir members and you that's greedy and committing other sins...what makes u think that God will accept ur short comings and reject mine? Or u think you are perfect Unless u are perfect urself, u have no right to condemn anyone...and God never told u he will consider u because u tried more than the other...even Timothy said if u keep all the commandments and yet fail in one U've failed all. So brother me and u are all the same before the Lord. |
Re: Is Once Saved, Always Saved Biblical? Prince Gabriel Okocha by SeriouslySense(m): 1:21pm On Aug 22, 2021 |
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Re: Is Once Saved, Always Saved Biblical? Prince Gabriel Okocha by liver123(m): 1:25pm On Aug 22, 2021 |
musicwriter: To be saved means to be saved from the fraud called Jesus. The moment you discover that Jesus is a fraud that's when you get saved.
That's what it means to be saved and once saved you'll be saved as long as you don't go back to the (Christian) vomit. Who did this to you. |
Re: Is Once Saved, Always Saved Biblical? Prince Gabriel Okocha by George0: 1:27pm On Aug 22, 2021 |
Once saved is not always saved. Simple. |
Re: Is Once Saved, Always Saved Biblical? Prince Gabriel Okocha by olutj: 1:43pm On Aug 22, 2021 |
What we have on earth regarding Salvation is TEMPORAL, preparing us for the ETERNAL Salvation. That's why the bible says in Matthew 24:13 "He who endures till the end shall be saved" 1 Like |
Re: Is Once Saved, Always Saved Biblical? Prince Gabriel Okocha by olutj: 1:50pm On Aug 22, 2021 |
olutj: What we have on earth regarding Salvation is TEMPORAL, preparing us for the ETERNAL Salvation. That's why the bible says in Matthew 24:13 "He who endures till the end shall be saved" |
Re: Is Once Saved, Always Saved Biblical? Prince Gabriel Okocha by AdeniyiA(m): 2:17pm On Aug 22, 2021 |
YOU'RE NEVER SAVED UNTIL YOU'RE SAFE, nobody is safe in this world The delivered live by grace Show me a man who THINKS he's saved/safe, and I will show you one ready to fall... 1 Cor 10:12 says " If you think you are standing strong, be careful not to fall." |
Re: Is Once Saved, Always Saved Biblical? Prince Gabriel Okocha by Kobojunkie: 2:21pm On Aug 22, 2021 |
olutj: What we have on earth regarding Salvation is TEMPORAL, preparing us for the ETERNAL Salvation. That's why the bible says in Matthew 24:13 "He who endures till the end shall be saved" Salvation, as described by Jesus Christ in John 3 vs 16 - 21, is from the condemnation of Sin- Genesis 3 vs 16 - 17 - aka Death, a curse. If that which we are saved from is itself temporal in nature, what is it that we require eternal salvation from? |
Re: Is Once Saved, Always Saved Biblical? Prince Gabriel Okocha by nkemoma(m): 2:38pm On Aug 22, 2021 |
unstoppable51: Here is a Bible Study by Prince Gabriel Okocha (FeedMeJesus.com)
Can a saved person become unsaved? Is once saved always saved biblical?
What does the Bible say about Once Saved, Forever Saved? Let's find out!
Salvation in Christ is the very central goal of the Bible. It is the end-goal of Faith, Grace, Mercy and several other subjects of the scriptures.
"And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus." 2Ti 3:15 KJV
"Receiving the end of your faith, even the salvation of your souls. Of which salvation the prophets have enquired and searched diligently, who prophesied of the grace that should come unto you." 1Pe 1:9-10 KJV
The believer is instructed to properly study and understand it, and be diligent in teaching it.
"Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth." 2Ti 2:15 KJV
A proper understanding of the concept of Salvation as taught in the scriptures, will open up a well of unceasing joy in you. Your feet will be firm, not tossed about by every wind of doctrine. And like a tree planted by the riverside, you will grow and flourish in your walk with the Lord Jesus, bearing good fruits for Him.
So let's go back to answering the question we have at hand.
Is Once Saved, Always Saved Biblical?
The answer to this question largely depends on what you mean by "once saved, always saved"
This is because to some persons, the statement "once saved, always saved" is another way of saying "nothing you do as a Christian matters after salvation. The moment you are saved, you can go ahead and live as worldly as you want, you won't get punished for it. God doesn't and won't give a damn about that." This ideology is an error and certainly not what the "once saved, always saved" statement is all about.
In the real sense, "once saved, always saved" is a catchphrase that addresses the durability or eternal nature of the Salvation we received when we appropriated the sacrifice of Jesus Christ for our sin(s).
With this understanding of what the statement is truly about, let's then do justice to the question from the scriptures.
Is once saved, always saved really biblical?
In talking about the Salvation, Redemption or Eternal Life we have in Christ, the Bible repeatedly used the words "once", "everlasting", "forever", "eternal", "true" and "once and for all" to describe how it occurred and the longevity.
Pay close attention as you read through the Bible verses outlined below. Meditate on each of them briefly.
Joh 3:16 KJV For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
Joh 10:28-29 KJV 28 And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand. 29 My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand.
Heb 5:9 KJV And being made perfect, he became the author of eternal salvation unto all them that obey him.
Heb 9:12 KJV Neither by the blood of goats and calves, but by his own blood he entered in once into the holy place, having obtained eternal redemption for us.
Heb 9:15 KJV And for this cause he is the mediator of the new testament, that by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions that were under the first testament, they which are called might receive the promise of eternal inheritance.
Heb 10:10-14 KJV 10 By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all. 11 And every priest standeth daily ministering and offering oftentimes the same sacrifices, which can never take away sins: 12 But this man, after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of God; 13 From henceforth expecting till his enemies be made his footstool. 14 For by one offering he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified.
But can't a believer lose his Salvation and go to hell (perish) if he's not careful after he has been saved? You may ask.
In answer to that question, take a look at these verses one more time and meditate on them.
"And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand. My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand." John 10:28-29 KJV
The essence of Eternal Life is to keep the believer from perishing. Mind you, the believer is not the one keeping his Eternal Life from perishing. Eternal Life is actually what is keeping him from perishing. Whether he is careful how he lives his life on earth or not, that Eternal Life he has received continually keeps him from destruction.
However, a believer who foolishly lives in sin continually, will lose his rewards and will have nothing to show for his Salvation or Eternal Life in heaven.
Take note that I said he will lose his rewards in heaven, not his Salvation or Eternal Life. That is because the believer is committed with the responsibility of working for and keeping his heavenly rewards by living righteously on earth, not his Salvation or Eternal Life. That is God's part according to the scriptures.
Salvation (Eternal Life) is a gift he received on the basis of his Faith in the finished works of Christ, whereas heavenly rewards are dependent on his lifestyle while on earth here.
If he lives a godly lifestyle, a crown of glory awaits him in heaven. If he doesn't, he will not get anything reward from God in heaven though he is saved and shall spend eternity in heaven.
Eph 2:8-10 KJV 8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: 9 Not of works, lest any man should boast. 10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.
1Co 3:13-15 KJV 13 Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is. 14 If any man's work abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward. 15 If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire.
This is what the Bible teaches about Once Saved, Always Saved. It is purely biblical. Set aside any misconception you may have had about the catchphrase and see the eternal nature of Salvation as it has always been in the scriptures- open, simple and clear!
I hope this blesses you. Glory to God!
Source: https://www.feedmejesus.com/2021/08/is-once-saved-always-saved-biblical.html "HE WHO ENDURES TO THE END IS SAVED" P.S. Stop making people read lengthy bullshit |
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Re: Is Once Saved, Always Saved Biblical? Prince Gabriel Okocha by ICEWIN: 3:09pm On Aug 22, 2021 |
ALL THESE CONFUSION NA I NO DEY LIKE FOR BIBBBBLE,CANT THE BIBLE BE STRAIGHT FORWARD AND AVOID EVERYBODY BRINGING HIS OWN IDEOLOGY TO HOW ONE UNDERSTAND IT?? EVERYBODY GO JUST DEY BRING DIFFERENT IDEA |
Re: Is Once Saved, Always Saved Biblical? Prince Gabriel Okocha by perezeghi: 3:13pm On Aug 22, 2021 |
unstoppable51: Here is a Bible Study by Prince Gabriel Okocha (FeedMeJesus.com)
Can a saved person become unsaved? Is once saved always saved biblical?
What does the Bible say about Once Saved, Forever Saved? Let's find out!
Salvation in Christ is the very central goal of the Bible. It is the end-goal of Faith, Grace, Mercy and several other subjects of the scriptures.
"And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus." 2Ti 3:15 KJV
"Receiving the end of your faith, even the salvation of your souls. Of which salvation the prophets have enquired and searched diligently, who prophesied of the grace that should come unto you." 1Pe 1:9-10 KJV
The believer is instructed to properly study and understand it, and be diligent in teaching it.
"Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth." 2Ti 2:15 KJV
A proper understanding of the concept of Salvation as taught in the scriptures, will open up a well of unceasing joy in you. Your feet will be firm, not tossed about by every wind of doctrine. And like a tree planted by the riverside, you will grow and flourish in your walk with the Lord Jesus, bearing good fruits for Him.
So let's go back to answering the question we have at hand.
Is Once Saved, Always Saved Biblical?
The answer to this question largely depends on what you mean by "once saved, always saved"
This is because to some persons, the statement "once saved, always saved" is another way of saying "nothing you do as a Christian matters after salvation. The moment you are saved, you can go ahead and live as worldly as you want, you won't get punished for it. God doesn't and won't give a damn about that." This ideology is an error and certainly not what the "once saved, always saved" statement is all about.
In the real sense, "once saved, always saved" is a catchphrase that addresses the durability or eternal nature of the Salvation we received when we appropriated the sacrifice of Jesus Christ for our sin(s).
With this understanding of what the statement is truly about, let's then do justice to the question from the scriptures.
Is once saved, always saved really biblical?
In talking about the Salvation, Redemption or Eternal Life we have in Christ, the Bible repeatedly used the words "once", "everlasting", "forever", "eternal", "true" and "once and for all" to describe how it occurred and the longevity.
Pay close attention as you read through the Bible verses outlined below. Meditate on each of them briefly.
Joh 3:16 KJV For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
Joh 10:28-29 KJV 28 And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand. 29 My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand.
Heb 5:9 KJV And being made perfect, he became the author of eternal salvation unto all them that obey him.
Heb 9:12 KJV Neither by the blood of goats and calves, but by his own blood he entered in once into the holy place, having obtained eternal redemption for us.
Heb 9:15 KJV And for this cause he is the mediator of the new testament, that by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions that were under the first testament, they which are called might receive the promise of eternal inheritance.
Heb 10:10-14 KJV 10 By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all. 11 And every priest standeth daily ministering and offering oftentimes the same sacrifices, which can never take away sins: 12 But this man, after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of God; 13 From henceforth expecting till his enemies be made his footstool. 14 For by one offering he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified.
But can't a believer lose his Salvation and go to hell (perish) if he's not careful after he has been saved? You may ask.
In answer to that question, take a look at these verses one more time and meditate on them.
"And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand. My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand." John 10:28-29 KJV
The essence of Eternal Life is to keep the believer from perishing. Mind you, the believer is not the one keeping his Eternal Life from perishing. Eternal Life is actually what is keeping him from perishing. Whether he is careful how he lives his life on earth or not, that Eternal Life he has received continually keeps him from destruction.
However, a believer who foolishly lives in sin continually, will lose his rewards and will have nothing to show for his Salvation or Eternal Life in heaven.
Take note that I said he will lose his rewards in heaven, not his Salvation or Eternal Life. That is because the believer is committed with the responsibility of working for and keeping his heavenly rewards by living righteously on earth, not his Salvation or Eternal Life. That is God's part according to the scriptures.
Salvation (Eternal Life) is a gift he received on the basis of his Faith in the finished works of Christ, whereas heavenly rewards are dependent on his lifestyle while on earth here.
If he lives a godly lifestyle, a crown of glory awaits him in heaven. If he doesn't, he will not get anything reward from God in heaven though he is saved and shall spend eternity in heaven.
Eph 2:8-10 KJV 8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: 9 Not of works, lest any man should boast. 10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.
1Co 3:13-15 KJV 13 Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is. 14 If any man's work abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward. 15 If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire.
This is what the Bible teaches about Once Saved, Always Saved. It is purely biblical. Set aside any misconception you may have had about the catchphrase and see the eternal nature of Salvation as it has always been in the scriptures- open, simple and clear!
I hope this blesses you. Glory to God!
Source: https://www.feedmejesus.com/2021/08/is-once-saved-always-saved-biblical.html This teaching is a wrong interpretation of God's word and the teaching of Jesus Christ. Salvation and Eternal life are synonyms. If your teaching was correct then there would be no purpose of Scripture also telling one of his/her name being written in the book of life. Anyone who is born again has received the free gift of Salvation through and in Jesus Christ and such a person continues to live in sin is on a free ride to hell. There's no such thing as such a person will go to heaven and not receive a reward. The essence of rewards are for those who diligently do God's work and try to leave according to God's standard. For by their service/works to God they will be rewarded. For each work/service rendered unto God shall pass through fire. 2 Likes |
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Re: Is Once Saved, Always Saved Biblical? Prince Gabriel Okocha by freeze22(m): 3:37pm On Aug 22, 2021 |
Rev 3:5 The one who overcomes, this one will be clothed in white clothing. And I will not blot out his name out of the Book of Life, but I will confess his name before My Father and before His angels. |
Re: Is Once Saved, Always Saved Biblical? Prince Gabriel Okocha by Ayo081(m): 4:39pm On Aug 22, 2021 |
24 Do you not know that in a race all the runners run, but only one gets the prize? Run in such a way as to get the prize.
25 Everyone who competes in the games goes into strict training. They do it to get a crown that will not last, but we do it to get a crown that will last forever.
26 Therefore I do not run like someone running aimlessly; I do not fight like a boxer beating the air.
27 No, I strike a blow to my body and make it my slave so that after I have preached to others, I myself will not be disqualified for the prize.
1 Corinthians 9:24-27 NIV
https://bible.com/bible/111/1co.9.24-27.NIV I have discovered that majority of the warnings we're directed to God's people. We shouldn't loose focus. Tell me about work out your salvation? 12 Therefore, my dear friends, as you have always obeyed—not only in my presence, but now much more in my absence—continue to work out your salvation with fear and trembling,
13 for it is God who works in you to will and to act in order to fulfill his good purpose. Philippians 2:12-13 NIV
https://bible.com/bible/111/php.2.12-13.NIV
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Re: Is Once Saved, Always Saved Biblical? Prince Gabriel Okocha by Ayo081(m): 4:41pm On Aug 22, 2021 |
perezeghi:
This teaching is a wrong interpretation of God's word and the teaching of Jesus Christ.
Salvation and Eternal life are synonyms. If your teaching was correct then there would be no purpose of Scripture also telling one of his/her name being written in the book of life.
Anyone who is born again has received the free gift of Salvation through and in Jesus Christ and such a person continues to live in sin is on a free ride to hell. There's no such thing as such a person will go to heaven and not receive a reward. The essence of rewards are for those who diligently do God's work and try to leave according to God's standard. For by their service/works to God they will be rewarded. For each work/service rendered unto God shall pass through fire. Absolutely! 1 Like |
Re: Is Once Saved, Always Saved Biblical? Prince Gabriel Okocha by themanderon: 4:46pm On Aug 22, 2021 |
That is a lie from the pit of hell. |
Re: Is Once Saved, Always Saved Biblical? Prince Gabriel Okocha by 2cute(m): 6:02pm On Aug 22, 2021 |
Once saved is not always saved because a saved person can decide they are done with Christ and exit the relationship that keeps them saved. Don't take my word for it, read Heb 6:4-8 and see for yourself. In case you can't get to a bible, check out the images attached to this post: the verses are highlighted, 6 different versions! A believer can surely lose their salvation as that passage says, unless I do not really understand the English language. Cheers. |
Re: Is Once Saved, Always Saved Biblical? Prince Gabriel Okocha by biggy26: 6:38pm On Aug 22, 2021 |
blamingthedevil: Will you say Pastor Apostle Suleiman is always saved ?
Stop blaming the devil, once saved is not always saved. That is called heresy.
Op read your Bible.
Romans 6:1-2
1 What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound?
2 God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein? Read Paul’s argument from Romans chapter 5:19 into chapter 6. The sin there is a noun and not a verb. He is dealing with the nature and not the act. 1 Like |
Re: Is Once Saved, Always Saved Biblical? Prince Gabriel Okocha by LaJoe2: 6:38pm On Aug 22, 2021 |
No its not. It will lead you to Hell. Daily striving in Holiness and Daily Repentance is vital. |
Re: Is Once Saved, Always Saved Biblical? Prince Gabriel Okocha by LaJoe2: 6:43pm On Aug 22, 2021 |
biggy26:
Read Paul’s argument from Romans chapter 5:19 into chapter 6. The sin there is a noun and not a verb. He is dealing with the nature and not the act.
Its referring to both, how can we be dead to Adam's Sin (original sin which we've been delivered from), continue there in (continue to commit it by now disobeying the doctrines, rules, instructions of Christ in our day to day lives). |
Re: Is Once Saved, Always Saved Biblical? Prince Gabriel Okocha by timifaithus(m): 7:40pm On Aug 22, 2021 |
That's not true o. |
Re: Is Once Saved, Always Saved Biblical? Prince Gabriel Okocha by ESA606(f): 8:40pm On Aug 22, 2021 |
[quote author=timifaithus post=105072608]That's not true o.
If you have a gold coin that falls inside the mud and get dirty; does the gold coin still retains its value or not? The answer is, the value never changed. It maybe dirty in look, but its worth remain the same. That is the truth. 2 Likes |
Re: Is Once Saved, Always Saved Biblical? Prince Gabriel Okocha by olutj: 9:05pm On Aug 22, 2021 |
Kobojunkie: Salvation, as described by Jesus Christ in John 3 vs 16 - 21, is from the condemnation of Sin- Genesis 3 vs 16 - 17 - aka Death, a curse. If that which we are saved from is itself temporal in nature, what is it that we require eternal salvation from? Yes you are absolutely correct! Eternal Salvation from eternal death. It is temporal as along as we are still here (on earth) awaiting the consummation (eternal life). Picture it this way - A university student is yet to graduate but sometimes people start calling them by their professional name. But the name calling doesnt validate the completion yet, it is till they successfully complete the study. Paul said I have finished my course. Therefore the prize itself is in the successful completion of the race here on earth. The person who is truly or indeed saved is one whose salvation is still intact till the point of transition with Christ (rapture) or the day of physical death. 1 Like |
Re: Is Once Saved, Always Saved Biblical? Prince Gabriel Okocha by jimmynauty: 6:45am On Aug 23, 2021 |
unstoppable51: Here is a Bible Study by Prince Gabriel Okocha (FeedMeJesus.com)
Can a saved person become unsaved? Is once saved always saved biblical?
What does the Bible say about Once Saved, Forever Saved? Let's find out!
Salvation in Christ is the very central goal of the Bible. It is the end-goal of Faith, Grace, Mercy and several other subjects of the scriptures.
"And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus." 2Ti 3:15 KJV
"Receiving the end of your faith, even the salvation of your souls. Of which salvation the prophets have enquired and searched diligently, who prophesied of the grace that should come unto you." 1Pe 1:9-10 KJV
The believer is instructed to properly study and understand it, and be diligent in teaching it.
"Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth." 2Ti 2:15 KJV
A proper understanding of the concept of Salvation as taught in the scriptures, will open up a well of unceasing joy in you. Your feet will be firm, not tossed about by every wind of doctrine. And like a tree planted by the riverside, you will grow and flourish in your walk with the Lord Jesus, bearing good fruits for Him.
So let's go back to answering the question we have at hand.
Is Once Saved, Always Saved Biblical?
The answer to this question largely depends on what you mean by "once saved, always saved"
This is because to some persons, the statement "once saved, always saved" is another way of saying "nothing you do as a Christian matters after salvation. The moment you are saved, you can go ahead and live as worldly as you want, you won't get punished for it. God doesn't and won't give a damn about that." This ideology is an error and certainly not what the "once saved, always saved" statement is all about.
In the real sense, "once saved, always saved" is a catchphrase that addresses the durability or eternal nature of the Salvation we received when we appropriated the sacrifice of Jesus Christ for our sin(s).
With this understanding of what the statement is truly about, let's then do justice to the question from the scriptures.
Is once saved, always saved really biblical?
In talking about the Salvation, Redemption or Eternal Life we have in Christ, the Bible repeatedly used the words "once", "everlasting", "forever", "eternal", "true" and "once and for all" to describe how it occurred and the longevity.
Pay close attention as you read through the Bible verses outlined below. Meditate on each of them briefly.
Joh 3:16 KJV For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
Joh 10:28-29 KJV 28 And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand. 29 My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand.
Heb 5:9 KJV And being made perfect, he became the author of eternal salvation unto all them that obey him.
Heb 9:12 KJV Neither by the blood of goats and calves, but by his own blood he entered in once into the holy place, having obtained eternal redemption for us.
Heb 9:15 KJV And for this cause he is the mediator of the new testament, that by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions that were under the first testament, they which are called might receive the promise of eternal inheritance.
Heb 10:10-14 KJV 10 By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all. 11 And every priest standeth daily ministering and offering oftentimes the same sacrifices, which can never take away sins: 12 But this man, after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of God; 13 From henceforth expecting till his enemies be made his footstool. 14 For by one offering he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified.
But can't a believer lose his Salvation and go to hell (perish) if he's not careful after he has been saved? You may ask.
In answer to that question, take a look at these verses one more time and meditate on them.
"And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand. My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand." John 10:28-29 KJV
The essence of Eternal Life is to keep the believer from perishing. Mind you, the believer is not the one keeping his Eternal Life from perishing. Eternal Life is actually what is keeping him from perishing. Whether he is careful how he lives his life on earth or not, that Eternal Life he has received continually keeps him from destruction.
However, a believer who foolishly lives in sin continually, will lose his rewards and will have nothing to show for his Salvation or Eternal Life in heaven.
Take note that I said he will lose his rewards in heaven, not his Salvation or Eternal Life. That is because the believer is committed with the responsibility of working for and keeping his heavenly rewards by living righteously on earth, not his Salvation or Eternal Life. That is God's part according to the scriptures.
Salvation (Eternal Life) is a gift he received on the basis of his Faith in the finished works of Christ, whereas heavenly rewards are dependent on his lifestyle while on earth here.
If he lives a godly lifestyle, a crown of glory awaits him in heaven. If he doesn't, he will not get anything reward from God in heaven though he is saved and shall spend eternity in heaven.
Eph 2:8-10 KJV 8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: 9 Not of works, lest any man should boast. 10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.
1Co 3:13-15 KJV 13 Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is. 14 If any man's work abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward. 15 If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire.
This is what the Bible teaches about Once Saved, Always Saved. It is purely biblical. Set aside any misconception you may have had about the catchphrase and see the eternal nature of Salvation as it has always been in the scriptures- open, simple and clear!
I hope this blesses you. Glory to God!
Source: https://www.feedmejesus.com/2021/08/is-once-saved-always-saved-biblical.html Amenn |