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Fulanization Agenda: Questions For Gov. Ortom And His Likes by Sirjamo: 5:47am On Aug 31, 2021
Governor Samuel Ortom of Benue state has recently been in the news for one reason, speaking what he called "truth to power," on the security situation in his state and other parts of the country. To be fair to the governor, no state executive would sit down while his people are being killed almost every other month without doing anything to remedy the situation, but, is the governor going about it the right way?



The reason why the Fulani ethnic groups are hell-bent on setting the state on fire, according to the governor is to displace the natives and take over their lands, and the President is inn on the plan, hence he has refused to be ruthless with them.



If these opinions are that of governor Ortom alone,it wouldn't have bother me this much; many Nigerians have spoken out in support of all the governor is saying on both the social and conventional media. Mr Ortom is somewhat of a hero right now, going from one media house to another, laying all sorts of allegations. The governor is basking in the euphoria of his immunity, I do not think anyone without immunity would have been so bold enough.



Before I would believe anything, I always try to go deep about it and understand the logic. If a theory or proposition does not make sense to me, after careful evaluation and references to similar phenomenon in the past and even present, I quickly discard it and move forward. That policy has never failed me.



As they say, no man is an Island. Since Nairaland is a Forum where I can have the pleasure of diverse opinions, I decided to bring the issues for discussion, by raising few salient questions with the hope that the governor gets to see this thread, and his supporters here too can tell us why they think he is making sense with his utterances.



Here goes the questions:



1. Benue state has a history of violence spanning many years, including the Jonathan years, was Jonathan in on the alleged Fulanization agenda?



2. We all know that Fulani constitute the most part of the bandits terrorizing states like Katsina, Zamfara, Niger, Kebbi.... Does the Fulanization agenda includes killing thousands of Fulani?



3. Why is it that, when bandits strike in Zamfara, it's banditry, but when the same bandits strike in Benue, it's Fulanization/Islamization agenda?



4. If Fulanization is real, it means that, for the agenda to succeed, other ethnic groups will have to be exterminated or forced out of Nigeria. Yoruba, Igbo and other ethnic groups whose combine population is more than one hundred million people would have to be conquered, how is that even possible?


5. President Buhari administration has been in power for six years and three months, if it came with an agenda and it has not been able to succeed after all these time, does it make sense that the agenda will continue with just 21 months to go? Reality must have set in that this was a futile attempt.



6. Finally, where in the world has it happened in recent memory, that an ethnic group over - run a whole nation and takes it over by way of conquest? Is governor Ortom and his supporters not stuck in the 13th Century?



Note: This is not by anyway, trying to exonerate the government from it failure to secure the country, the bulk stops at the President's table and he swore to protect lives and properties of the citizens.

The difference between us is, I believe the government does not have the capacity to secure the Country (I will do a thread on that when I can), while the likes of governor Ortom believe that the government is behind insecurity.

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Re: Fulanization Agenda: Questions For Gov. Ortom And His Likes by yuping(m): 5:51am On Aug 31, 2021
I will be observing.
Re: Fulanization Agenda: Questions For Gov. Ortom And His Likes by Ofodirinwa: 6:02am On Aug 31, 2021
These questions are very stupid

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Re: Fulanization Agenda: Questions For Gov. Ortom And His Likes by daomi(m): 6:03am On Aug 31, 2021
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Re: Fulanization Agenda: Questions For Gov. Ortom And His Likes by uBuNiT: 6:05am On Aug 31, 2021
Op you sound stup!d. That is how your likes criticise every steps suggesting sit-don-look

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Re: Fulanization Agenda: Questions For Gov. Ortom And His Likes by tempest01(m): 6:07am On Aug 31, 2021
Very foolish questions by a foolish individual.


What has the present FG done to checkmate Fulani terrorists killing all over the country?

We saw the will power to checkmate ESN. What did ESN do that Fulani killers hasn't done X 100 and with more increased boldness in this

present administration with Fulani cabal members and their servants deciding governance with a Fulani mannequin as figure head?

Tell us what action has been taken to checkmate them.

Even if there is no Fulanization agenda as you are trying to push, there are killings and communal displacements going on by Fulanis on a large

scale with tacit support of those that found their way to power. That is an agenda. Let those that speak against it speak the way they can.

They are the ones getting killed.

When there was no talk of resources in Zamfara, your acclaimed bandits did not strike. The agenda is clear. Kill, displace and take over fertile

land and resources by the foot soldiers. The elites infiltrate government, flout the constitution and act for tribal benefits. Use the military

and forces to push the agenda. Replace all key government positions with Fulanis who are waiting and ready to use the office to do their part

in promoting the agenda. Implement things like RUGA and reserves so that the foot soldiers who have not been disarmed, arrested, and tried

will be spread nationwide to continue the carnage. Deliberately ignore the atrocities of the Fulani killers while they continue spreading death

and destruction.


And your only problem is if the agenda is a hoax or not when it is currently in play and happening nationwide.

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Re: Fulanization Agenda: Questions For Gov. Ortom And His Likes by obyrich(m): 6:08am On Aug 31, 2021
Ofodirinwa:
These questions are very stupid
What do you expect from a Fulani man trying to save the image of his tribe?

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Re: Fulanization Agenda: Questions For Gov. Ortom And His Likes by Metallurgist: 6:12am On Aug 31, 2021
The two idi0ts above me, minus the space Booker have shown how shallow our youth can be, the op present his augment, which you could counter with facts, not idiotic phrases mctsss

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Re: Fulanization Agenda: Questions For Gov. Ortom And His Likes by johnmartus(m): 6:14am On Aug 31, 2021
What I know is that those bandits are notorious criminals from Fulanis extraction...There's nothing like fulanization .

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Re: Fulanization Agenda: Questions For Gov. Ortom And His Likes by rottennaija(m): 6:18am On Aug 31, 2021
obyrich:
What do you expect from a Fulani man trying to save the image of his tribe?

You have not address any of his questions.

tempest01:
Very foolish questions by a foolish individual.


What has the present FG done to checkmate Fulani terrorists killing all over the country?

We saw the will power to checkmate ESN. What did ESN do that Fulani killers hasn't done X 100 and with more increased boldness in this

present administration with Fulani cabal members and their servants deciding governance with a mannequin as figure head?

Tell us what action has been taken to checkmate them.

Even if there is no Fulanization agenda as you are trying to push, there are killings and communal displacements going on by Fulanis on a large

scale with tacit support of those that found their way to power. That is an agenda. Let those that speak against it speak the way they can.

They are the ones getting killed.

When there was no talk of resources in Zamfara, your acclaimed bandits did not strike. The agenda is clear. Kill, displace and take over fertile

land and resources.

What you doing is a straw man's attack. You have not address any of his questions.

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Re: Fulanization Agenda: Questions For Gov. Ortom And His Likes by amnesty7: 6:20am On Aug 31, 2021
The man is simply hiding behind excuses not to perform. Instead of crying like a baby, simply resign and allow a tough person to take over.

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Re: Fulanization Agenda: Questions For Gov. Ortom And His Likes by techwaya: 6:23am On Aug 31, 2021
Fulanis are restless they will use any type of treachery to carry out their agenda ,the op is one of them..

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Re: Fulanization Agenda: Questions For Gov. Ortom And His Likes by obyrich(m): 6:23am On Aug 31, 2021
rottennaija:


You have not address any of his questions.
You can help me address the questions. Thanks in advance.
Re: Fulanization Agenda: Questions For Gov. Ortom And His Likes by Sunnybay7: 6:24am On Aug 31, 2021
If the government can go to foreign countries to arrest and extradite the likes of Kanu and Igboho using it's intelligence and security network, what excuse does the same government have for not capturing and nailing fulanis. You and know it's a selective witch hunting system implored by the cow advocate you call President. The fulanis are left to kill, rape, kidnap and commit all sorts of injustice only and only because Buhari is a fulani man.
Your reasoning op is like saying since they are killing some of us let them also kill people from your side too, you actually lack intellect.

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Re: Fulanization Agenda: Questions For Gov. Ortom And His Likes by tempest01(m): 6:25am On Aug 31, 2021
rottennaija:


You have not address any of his questions.



What you doing is a straw man's attack. You have not address any of his questions.

look for the answers in there. If you are not dumb or a terrorism supporter and religious fanatic, you'll see all the answers in there.

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Re: Fulanization Agenda: Questions For Gov. Ortom And His Likes by Rugaria: 6:25am On Aug 31, 2021
The person that started this thread is one of those chronic mercenary posters on this forum that are ready to sell their birthright for a pot o poridge. It's alarming the far some crooked minds in this country can go to defend evil. This should be an eye opener to everyone reading and to everyone living in Nigeria now , that not everyone in this country can boast of that precious commodity called conscience!

The governor of Benue state in his interview mentioned that the fulani leadership has come out to openly state that their aim is to take over the rest of the country. He gave instances where these people openly accepted that they are responsible for the carnage in Benue, Zamfara, Southern Kaduna, Plautue and co. The governor stated that he has sent the evidence of some of these agenda directly to the president, The DSS and others but no action was taken.

The governor also stated that the fulanis attacking them now are no more herders. They are fulani tribal militias with both religious and political agenda. This is the Chief security officer of a state. The governor mentioned names in previous interviews of major Fulani leaders desperately trying to hyjack the country. He stated that all of them are living freely at Abuja with Police escorts while the likes of Nnamdi Kanu and Sunday Igboho are languishing in jail. How can the leaders of an organization that claimed the responsibility for the massacres at Agatu and co be walking freely in a sane country?

Thousands Killed at Benue Enugu Kaduna Zamfara Plautue, and nobody is arrested, prosecuted or jailed. Yet the presidency is after peaceful seperatist movements. Fulani militias with serious arms that can only be supplied from a States armoury. In places like Zamfara, most of the people being killed are the original Hausa indigenes. This was why Elzakzaky was arrested. The man is Hausa and actually stated that most of the attacks going on were premidated and tailored to remove the indigenous inhabitants from solid mineral communities and replace them with imported fulanis.

This blood gulping president has Never lifted a finger to fight his brothers commiting genocide across the country but it's always these inebriated Afonjas that will jump out of their skins to defend the Evil regime.

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Re: Fulanization Agenda: Questions For Gov. Ortom And His Likes by Sirjamo: 6:33am On Aug 31, 2021
johnmartus:
What I know is that those bandits are notorious criminals from Fulanis extraction...There's nothing like fulanization .
Exactly my thoughts, Fulanization agenda is a hoax
Re: Fulanization Agenda: Questions For Gov. Ortom And His Likes by Flyingngel(m): 6:35am On Aug 31, 2021
This present administration has given so much air to whatever Ortom has to say.
Example is the Meyitti Allah spokesperson who comes out on daily basis to talk tough upto a point of saying that Benue will not have peace except they give right of way to the headers and Buhari with his DSS has never seem it fit to send for him. Even the latest one that , they will arrest Ortom immediately he leaves office : now I ask, who make them police or court of law? Have you heard Buhari and his people say a word about that?

Kanu and Igboho mobilises their people for separation, immediately DSS went as far as BENIN to arrest Igboho.
Malaria and countless others will go on air to talk abt the inept rule of Buhari's government, the next day ,DSS will invite them.
A Fulani will go on air and threatened another tribe, DSS will turn a blind eye.

So you see that it is BUHARI and his cohorts who gives validation to all the accusations of Ortom.
Remember OPC came out during OBJ regime causing problems here and there, OBJ dealt with them in the language they understand ; now show me one Meyitti Allah person who threatened another ethnic group that has been invited to the DSS let alone being arrested.

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Re: Fulanization Agenda: Questions For Gov. Ortom And His Likes by excel101(m): 6:55am On Aug 31, 2021
Metallurgist:
The two idi0ts above me, minus the space Booker have shown how shallow our youth can be, the op present his augment, which you could counter with facts, not idiotic phrases mctsss
I think you're having a comprehension issues. What other fact is clearer than what someone stated above, like the Fed Govt. being proactive when it comes to dealing with ESN, but are deaf to the fulani killings of other Nigerians. You guys don't have anything reasonable to say, its a clear case of trying to defend your daddy that appointed a fulani sharia court judge as Justice Minister/ CJN

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Re: Fulanization Agenda: Questions For Gov. Ortom And His Likes by History555: 7:02am On Aug 31, 2021
People should learn to ignore the following idiots
Sirjamo
Vedaxcool
Udele
Monogamy
Mannabbq
Juliusmalemma

Arguing with them is like arguing with a baby. All u hear is ta ta ta ta ehn rhn rhu

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Re: Fulanization Agenda: Questions For Gov. Ortom And His Likes by excel101(m): 7:03am On Aug 31, 2021
This is the dumbest and driest post i've ever read on Nairaland Forum. My plain advise, please forget about you proposed future write up on this issue.

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Re: Fulanization Agenda: Questions For Gov. Ortom And His Likes by Emergingnation(m): 7:15am On Aug 31, 2021
Sirjamo:
Exactly my thoughts, Fulanization agenda is a hoax
If Fulanization is a hoax, why did your goon Buhari appoint his Fulani lots into every sensitive positions against the principles of Federal characters...

Why has he refused to arrest and prosecute his marauding fulani herdsmen terrorist lots that has been going killing spree in the middle belt and south..

Typical Fulani stunts.....

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Re: Fulanization Agenda: Questions For Gov. Ortom And His Likes by Wokenaija: 7:26am On Aug 31, 2021
You are obviously benefiting from this government or are a Fulani person. Because every sane person can see fulanization unfolding
Re: Fulanization Agenda: Questions For Gov. Ortom And His Likes by FarahAideed: 7:33am On Aug 31, 2021
Keep decieving yourself OP
Re: Fulanization Agenda: Questions For Gov. Ortom And His Likes by real1000: 7:34am On Aug 31, 2021
Ofodirinwa:
These questions are very stupid
very much stupid

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Re: Fulanization Agenda: Questions For Gov. Ortom And His Likes by lalajnr(m): 7:37am On Aug 31, 2021
Metallurgist:
The two idi0ts above me, minus the space Booker have shown how shallow our youth can be, the op present his augment, which you could counter with facts, not idiotic phrases mctsss
sharrap is the op still a kid he knows the truth
Re: Fulanization Agenda: Questions For Gov. Ortom And His Likes by vedaxcool(m): 7:47am On Aug 31, 2021
History555:
People should learn to ignore the following idiots
Sirjamo
Vedaxcool
Udele
Monogamy
Mannabbq
Juliusmalemma

Arguing with them is like arguing with a baby. All u hear is ta ta ta ta ehn rhn rhu

Why bestow your family's title on me?
Re: Fulanization Agenda: Questions For Gov. Ortom And His Likes by vedaxcool(m): 7:49am On Aug 31, 2021
You don't expect bigots to string a single logical sentence. You question will largely go unanswered. Front page please we herdsidiots to answer the questions posed.
Re: Fulanization Agenda: Questions For Gov. Ortom And His Likes by Danjikanbauchi: 8:11am On Aug 31, 2021
You sound stupid seriously at OP.

Re: Fulanization Agenda: Questions For Gov. Ortom And His Likes by hucknall: 8:11am On Aug 31, 2021
Sirjamo:
Governor Samuel Ortom of Benue state has recently been in the news for one reason, speaking what he called "truth to power," on the security situation in his state and other parts of the country. To be fair to the governor, no state executive would sit down while his people are being killed almost every other month without doing anything to remedy the situation, but, is the governor going about it the right way?



The reason why the Fulani ethnic groups are hell-bent on setting the state on fire, according to the governor is to displace the natives and take over their lands, and the President is inn on the plan, hence he has refused to be ruthless with them.



If these opinions are that of governor Ortom alone,it wouldn't have bother me this much; many Nigerians have spoken out in support of all the governor is saying on both the social and conventional media. Mr Ortom is somewhat of a hero right now, going from one media house to another, laying all sorts of allegations. The governor is basking in the euphoria of his immunity, I do not think anyone without immunity would have been so bold enough.



Before I would believe anything, I always try to go deep about it and understand the logic. If a theory or proposition does not make sense to me, after careful evaluation and references to similar phenomenon in the past and even present, I quickly discard it and move forward. That policy has never failed me.



As they say, no man is an Island. Since Nairaland is a Forum where I can have the pleasure of diverse opinions, I decided to bring the issues for discussion, by raising few salient questions with the hope that the governor gets to see this thread, and his supporters here too can tell us why they think he is making sense with his utterances.



Here goes the questions:



1. Benue state has a history of violence spanning many years, including the Jonathan years, was Jonathan in on the alleged Fulanization agenda?



2. We all know that Fulani constitute the most part of the bandits terrorizing states like Katsina, Zamfara, Niger, Kebbi.... Does the Fulanization agenda includes killing thousands of Fulani?



3. Why is it that, when bandits strike in Zamfara, it's banditry, but when the same bandits strike in Benue, it's Fulanization/Islamization agenda?



4. If Fulanization is real, it means that, for the agenda to succeed, other ethnic groups will have to be exterminated or forced out of Nigeria. Yoruba, Igbo and other ethnic groups whose combine population is more than one hundred million people would have to be conquered, how is that even possible?


5. President Buhari administration has been in power for six years and three months, if it came with an agenda and it has not been able to succeed after all these time, does it make sense that the agenda will continue with just 21 months to go? Reality must have set in that this was a futile attempt.



6. Finally, where in the world has it happened in recent memory, that an ethnic group over - run a whole nation and takes it over by way of conquest? Is governor Ortom and his supporters not stuck in the 13th Century?



Note: This is not by anyway, trying to exonerate the government from it failure to secure the country, the bulk stops at the President's table and he swore to protect lives and properties of the citizens.

The difference between us is, I believe the government does not have the capacity to secure the Country (I will do a thread on that when I can), while the likes of governor Ortom believe that the government is behind insecurity.






These are mumu questions. All of them.

1. Almost all states has been violent at one point or other.
2. Hausa / Fulani are not the only tribe in the north. They are many other minority tribes in villages they are killing.
3. See I no get now. Just seek wisdom
'cus
you mumu like primary one pinkin
Re: Fulanization Agenda: Questions For Gov. Ortom And His Likes by 9japride(m): 8:34am On Aug 31, 2021
When I see these kinds of questions and look up and see those who posted it, I don't even bother myself to read it. Those who think 9ja politics is a game of love and good conscience are deceiving themselves. I still blame Southerners who think they are dealing with people with logic. How can one explain to foreigners that we still have barbarians in this modern times that go about killing people in their farms and homes? People who will never condemn the atrocities happening in the country by heartless individuals are not people whom to have any logical discussion or debate with. The earlier people learn that the better for them. Smh

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Re: Fulanization Agenda: Questions For Gov. Ortom And His Likes by 9japride(m): 8:39am On Aug 31, 2021
Rugaria:
The person that started this thread is one of those chronic mercenary posters on this forum that are ready to sell their birthright for a pot o poridge. It's alarming the far some crooked minds in this country can go to defend evil. This should be an eye opener to everyone reading and to everyone living in Nigeria now , that not everyone in this country can boast of that precious commodity called conscience!

The governor of Benue state in his interview mentioned that the fulani leadership has come out to openly state that their aim is to take over the rest of the country. He gave instances where these people openly accepted that they are responsible for the carnage in Benue, Zamfara, Southern Kaduna, Plautue and co. The governor stated that he has sent the evidence of some of these agenda directly to the president, The DSS and others but no action was taken.

The governor also stated that the fulanis attacking them now are no more herders. They are fulani tribal militias with both religious and political agenda. This is the Chief security officer of a state. The governor mentioned names in previous interviews of major Fulani leaders desperately trying to hyjack the country. He stated that all of them are living freely at Abuja with Police escorts while the likes of Nnamdi Kanu and Sunday Igboho are languishing in jail. How can the leaders of an organization that claimed the responsibility for the massacres at Agatu and co be walking freely in a sane country?

Thousands Killed at Benue Enugu Kaduna Zamfara Plautue, and nobody is arrested, prosecuted or jailed. Yet the presidency is after peaceful seperatist movements. Fulani militias with serious arms that can only be supplied from a States armoury. In places like Zamfara, most of the people being killed are the original Hausa indigenes. This was why Elzakzaky was arrested. The man is Hausa and actually stated that most of the attacks going on were premidated and tailored to remove the indigenous inhabitants from solid mineral communities and replace them with imported fulanis.

This blood gulping president has Never lifted a finger to fight his brothers commiting genocide across the country but it's always these inebriated Afonjas that will jump out of their skins to defend the Evil regime.
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The kind of mindset we have in this country is very scary. That's why most whites believe men still live in trees in Africa. Wickedness and mischievous people everywhere.

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