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Re: VAT: Samuel Ortom Supports Lagos, Rivers In Case Against FIRS by Nobody: 8:18am On Sep 11, 2021
Wike is looking for money for election in 2023...
Don't you guys get it
NinjaMetahuman:
Those figures were from 2016 when Kemi adeosun was minister.

Its actually a possibility if you consider that Kano has very huge population hence enough money to be derived on vat.

But Wike was talking about every tax fg was getting from rivers, not value added tax.
Re: VAT: Samuel Ortom Supports Lagos, Rivers In Case Against FIRS by emilo2bad: 8:20am On Sep 11, 2021
avidleo:
Anything to distract folks from his non payment of pensions & salaries.

Bros thanks, ortom is good at that. If state governments win this case, Benue will be one of the casualties

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Re: VAT: Samuel Ortom Supports Lagos, Rivers In Case Against FIRS by yahmohy27: 8:35am On Sep 11, 2021
Adblg0610:
ORTOM IS JUST A NOISE MAKER,ONLY FIVE STATES CONTRIBUTE 87% OF VAT IN NIGERIA

Lagos state-55%

FCT. -20%

Rivers. - 6%

Kano. -5%

Kaduna. -1%

The man is something else as if his state generate something tangible compare to what he received monthly.
Attention Seeker

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Re: VAT: Samuel Ortom Supports Lagos, Rivers In Case Against FIRS by niyidenrele: 8:40am On Sep 11, 2021
Mitsurugi:
I want to know the legal abracadabra the court will pull on this matter because the constitution clearly supports the States. The FIRS already shot itself by writing to the National Assembly for urgent constitutional amendment, so why are they appealing angry


Abi oooo
Of they know they will win in court
Why rushing to NA , to amend the constitution in their favor ?

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Re: VAT: Samuel Ortom Supports Lagos, Rivers In Case Against FIRS by Athemisia: 8:45am On Sep 11, 2021
RapistOnBail:

Please southerners,

On behalf of Northern Christians and Teenage almajiris of the north (TAN)

We beg you guys to tamper justice with mercy.

Let’s be our brothers keepers here.

You guys want us from the north to continue chopping grass for dinner and breakfast?

Haba, have mercy please!
Nothing like northern Christian's here. Build your economy simple.

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Re: VAT: Samuel Ortom Supports Lagos, Rivers In Case Against FIRS by PGKing1(m): 8:54am On Sep 11, 2021
How can you be destroying alcoholic beverages and yet still want the taxes derived from them Madness ontop of insanity...



Original Backwoods available at Wholesale prices Dm direct
Re: VAT: Samuel Ortom Supports Lagos, Rivers In Case Against FIRS by johnikwoyi: 8:57am On Sep 11, 2021
Facts

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Re: VAT: Samuel Ortom Supports Lagos, Rivers In Case Against FIRS by Sholaco: 9:04am On Sep 11, 2021
Foolish man, i wonder when you will stop your cheap talks and swings to action by joining them..

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Re: VAT: Samuel Ortom Supports Lagos, Rivers In Case Against FIRS by Soulsymbol99: 9:05am On Sep 11, 2021
Teenaira:


This VAT issue is not a Wike or Sanwo eko personality. This country is dying, don't mind those who are saying the country is already dead, but we must get all the constituent institution to know the party is over. We are dying in the mist of plenty. Let everybody go and develop their area. It will be tough initially because almost all states will not be able to pay salaries or any recurrent spends. If every state adds a little more IGR, it means the country has grown it's revenue invariably.
I know Nigerians can do it but they always wait for directions from the federal government and the federal government is encouraging indolence. If it is possible, they will borrow from the dead to satisfy their urge for recurrent spends or white elephant capital spends. That is our delima.


My brother, u've made a valid point. everybody should go back to their place and think of the way forward. It will actually bring about a healthy competition between states. But we r talking about people who don't have the fear of God. Will they allow the right thing to be done? I think this is God giving us the much needed restructuring we have been crying for. We(Nigerians) should not allow them hinder it. Interesting dayz ahead.

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Re: VAT: Samuel Ortom Supports Lagos, Rivers In Case Against FIRS by mfm04622: 9:08am On Sep 11, 2021
RolexOfGeneva:

You need a brain checkup. Comparing Kano to Rivers.

Only fools resort to insults when they encounter people with different opinions.

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Re: VAT: Samuel Ortom Supports Lagos, Rivers In Case Against FIRS by StrongInBed: 9:32am On Sep 11, 2021
BafanaBafana:
So how will Benue survive? The have the land for agricultural but no unity and leadership.
Core northern states will be fine, very fine. They have enough land to go into agriculture on large scale.
South East will become a living hell as traders will be taxed mercilessly. They too are parasites.

You must be insane you think rivers is yoruba Land or hausa land..

Come and claim it na..ewu.
Re: VAT: Samuel Ortom Supports Lagos, Rivers In Case Against FIRS by Nobody: 9:41am On Sep 11, 2021
Ibkhaleel001:
[s][/s]So in your own myopic thinking...Kano cant just be this and that because you hate the north.....But remember facts dont lie!
you haven't proven your point.
Re: VAT: Samuel Ortom Supports Lagos, Rivers In Case Against FIRS by Nobody: 9:56am On Sep 11, 2021
Ibkhaleel001:
[s][/s]So in your own myopic thinking...Kano cant just be this and that because you hate the north.....But remember facts dont lie!

You are here this morning again after your infamous Northern prowess history compiled under depression caused by VAT collection by States battle.

It is not about the record released by FIRS or any agency of the FG, but it is about the fundamental principle of Federalism that was handed to us at independence. Most records released by FG agencies on critical sector of the nation is political. Very political.

I remembered the Statistics released on vehicular traffic on some major roads in Nigeria. The Lagos -Ibadan expressway and 3rd Mainland Bridge exposed them when some roads were given higher traffic.

It is not how much VAT was declared or stated in the report but the potentials to be released to States to think strategically to generate more ideas and revenue for development.

The Military era is gone where the Kaduna Mafia controlled development indices and determined resources distribution . It was the collapse of the Kaduna Mafia control that made you to give a very derogatory comments on Obasanjo's Presidency yesterday as sent by your masters. You forgot Kano Airport and few other Airports were ghost cities as at 1999. We have spent two days at Kano just because of lack of flight to Lagos having bought tickets. The following day, towards evening, it was a tug of war entering the plane that came. People rushed to enter the plane (Nigeria Airways) irrespective of Airlines tickets (Kabo, IRS,etc) they bought. At the end we were packed like sardines to Lagos. It happened severally.

I think, somebody should extract your foolish summary on Obasanjo's Presidency and send it to him. Also, one of your brothers on nairaland said Obasanjo destroyed NEPA because of Industries in the North and built gas pipelines to industries in Ogun and Ibadan. Very funny people. What was the power generated and distributed in 1999. What was the power consumption in Abuja in 1999 and when OBJ was leaving in 2007?

The truth of the matter is that the Military was breastfeeding the North while the South produced the milk. The change in system of governance brought about structural adjustments which were initially very difficult for North to comprehend. What your Captain of Industries enjoyed during the military era that made them what they are is just what IBETO cement enjoyed under Jonathan that Dangote complained. I was on the side of Dangote I just brought it for your attention.

You said you were outside Nigeria on assignment, which means, it is likely you are working in the presidency. Advise them, let the States collect their VAT as it is done in US and other civilized society. After all, Kano and Kaduna contribute more VAT than 14 states in the South.

Let us kick start the development in Nigeria. The VISION of the South is quite different from the VISION of the North. The Bauchi governor said your VISION is to use Nigeria's resources to promote and further the interests of Fulanis across West Africa. That's not our vision in the South.

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Re: VAT: Samuel Ortom Supports Lagos, Rivers In Case Against FIRS by Ibkhaleel001: 9:59am On Sep 11, 2021
[s]
babaolofin:


You are here this morning again after your infamous Northern prowess history compiled under depression caused by VAT collection by States battle.

It is not about the record released by FIRS or any agency of the FG, but it is about the fundamental principle of Federalism that was handed to us at independence. Most records released by FG agencies on critical sector of the nation is political. Very political.

I remembered the Statistics released on vehicular traffic on some major roads in Nigeria. The Lagos -Ibadan expressway and 3rd Mainland Bridge exposed them when some roads were given higher traffic.

It is not how much VAT was declared or stated in the report but the potentials to be released to States to think strategically to generate more ideas and revenue for development.

The Military era is gone where the Kaduna Mafia controlled development indices and determined resources distribution . It was the collapse of the Kaduna Mafia control that made you to give a very derogatory comments on Obasanjo's Presidency yesterday as sent by your masters. You forgot Kano Airport and few other Airports were ghost cities as at 1999. We have spent two days at Kano just because of lack of flight to Lagos having bought tickets. The following day, towards evening, it was a tug of war entering the plane that came. People rushed to enter the plane (Nigeria Airways) irrespective of Airlines tickets (Kabo, IRS,etc) they bought. At the end we were packed like sardines to Lagos. It happened severally.

I think, somebody should extract your foolish summary on Obasanjo's Presidency and send it to him. Also, one of your brothers on nairaland said Obasanjo destroyed NEPA because of Industries in the North and built gas pipelines to industries in Ogun and Ibadan.

The truth of the matter is that the Military was breastfeeding the North while the South produced the milk. The change in system of governance brought about structural adjustments which were initially very difficult for North to comprehend. What your Captain of Industries enjoyed during the military era that made them what they are is just what IBETO cement enjoyed under Jonathan that Dangote complained. I was on the side of Dangote I just brought it for your attention.

You said you were outside Nigeria on assignment, which means, it is likely you are working in the presidency. Advise them, let the States collect their VAT as it is done in US and other civilized society. After all, Kano and Kaduna contribute more VAT than 14 states in the South.

Let us kick start the development in Nigeria. The VISION of the South is quite different from the VISION of the North. The Bauchi governor said your VISION is to use Nigeria's resources to promote and further the interests of Fulanis across West Africa. That's not our vision in the South.

[/s] sluggish brain....Yeye empty rants...

Whats the point in the whole jaggon you penned?

Online tribalist hater you are just making empty noise here with no knowledge ONLY FIVE STATES CONTRIBUTE 87% OF VAT IN NIGERIA

Lagos state-55%

FCT. -20%

Rivers. - 6%

Kano. -5%

Kaduna. -1%

Where is your state?
Re: VAT: Samuel Ortom Supports Lagos, Rivers In Case Against FIRS by slivertongue: 10:04am On Sep 11, 2021
Mitsurugi:
I want to know the legal abracadabra the court will pull on this matter because the constitution clearly supports the States. The FIRS already shot itself by writing to the National Assembly for urgent constitutional amendment, so why are they appealing angry


firs know the position of the law favours the state

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Re: VAT: Samuel Ortom Supports Lagos, Rivers In Case Against FIRS by Nobody: 10:18am On Sep 11, 2021
Ibkhaleel001:
[s][/s] sluggish brain....Yeye empty rants...

Whats the point in the whole jaggon you penned?

Online tribalist hater you are just making empty noise here with no knowledge ONLY FIVE STATES CONTRIBUTE 87% OF VAT IN NIGERIA

Lagos state-55%

FCT. -20%

Rivers. - 6%

Kano. -5%

Kaduna. -1%

Where is your state?

You are the foolish person here. Ortom is not talking about the report on VAT collection. I am from Ogun State. I am not talking about VAT collection statistics or report. I am talking about potentials. I am talking about development. I am talking about freedom.

You claimed the South East have very low VAT and most companies at Onitsha don't pay VAT because they are SMEs whose capital is lower than 25million naira. I told you, it is not about the present VAT record but the opportunities the VAT collection by States regime would give to States. We are excited by these opportunities. At the beginning, it might be rough for some States, later, they would pick.

Despite your long essays yesterday, you are not ready to let go the South. Your problem is that you are threatened by any move that would break (restructure ) present Nigeria and return us back to the system at Independence.

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Re: VAT: Samuel Ortom Supports Lagos, Rivers In Case Against FIRS by Omodua(m): 11:43am On Sep 11, 2021
WibusJaga:

Good. The more the merrier.
Hopefully the judicial system will do justice to this matter. VATs & Personal Income Tax collection should be the exclusive preserve of respective states.
Doesn't make sense for alcohol-destroying states in the North to expect share of the VAT proceeds from same alcohol businesses they are destroying.
Exactly. Too many contradictions militating the polity.
Doesn't make sense Sharia States destroying alcohol/beer and enjoys VAT proceeds from same alcohol businesses they are destroying.
We shouldn't go to war to settle this injustice.
I support Wike and Sanwo Olu on their stand on this.

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Re: VAT: Samuel Ortom Supports Lagos, Rivers In Case Against FIRS by wink2015(m): 12:28pm On Sep 11, 2021
SHARE MONEY ARRANGEMENT BY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT is becoming obsolete.

Let each state work hard and get the benefit of such hard work.

Sharing Rivers state or Lagos state VAT earning to poor, lazy and idle state is not supposed to be the best way.

States in Nigeria should start having a plan B arrangement by putting a workable internally generated revenue plan.

NORTHERN STATES SHOULD DEVELOP EDUCATION AND TECHNOLOGY ESPECIALLY IN THE AREA OF AGRICULTURE.

GOVERNORS FROM LESS ENDOWED STATES SHOULD STOP DAY DREAMING ABOUT CRUDE OIL MONEY.

Stop the cap in hand movement to Abuja to get funds for development.

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Re: VAT: Samuel Ortom Supports Lagos, Rivers In Case Against FIRS by NOETHNICITY(m): 12:33pm On Sep 11, 2021
Adblg0610:
ORTOM IS JUST A NOISE MAKER,ONLY FIVE STATES CONTRIBUTE 87% OF VAT IN NIGERIA

Lagos state-55%

FCT. -20%

Rivers. - 6%

Kano. -5%

Kaduna. -1%
Of course, Ortom knows that best way to deflect attention away from his many failures, is to appear to be against PMB
Benue state is one of the states that leeches on other viable states

Hopefully Ortoms unclothedness will soon blow open
Re: VAT: Samuel Ortom Supports Lagos, Rivers In Case Against FIRS by Sammerboi: 12:42pm On Sep 11, 2021
enonche85:


Kano can never be 5% and Rivers 6%, it's impossible. Wike complained Kano generated 2.8bn from VAT and where given 2.8bn, while Rivers generated 15.6bn but were given only 4bn so how does that translates to 6&5 %s respectively?.
That Moro is bloody liar leave him lol. If he likes make he put Yobe ahead of Rivers, southern states go start dey collect their own VAT.
Re: VAT: Samuel Ortom Supports Lagos, Rivers In Case Against FIRS by NOETHNICITY(m): 12:52pm On Sep 11, 2021
babaolofin:





The Military era is gone where the Kaduna Mafia controlled development indices and determined resources distribution . It was the collapse of the Kaduna Mafia control that made you to give a very derogatory comments on Obasanjo's Presidency yesterday as sent by your masters.

The truth of the matter is that the Military was breastfeeding the North while the South produced the milk.
Why not do a little research on the military govt that changed structure handed to us pre independence
Re: VAT: Samuel Ortom Supports Lagos, Rivers In Case Against FIRS by enonche85(m): 1:35pm On Sep 11, 2021
blackpanda:


Is wike the one collecting VAT

He is the topmost chief executive of the state, so he should know the numbers.
Re: VAT: Samuel Ortom Supports Lagos, Rivers In Case Against FIRS by enonche85(m): 1:37pm On Sep 11, 2021
Ibkhaleel001:
[s][/s]So in your own myopic thinking...Kano cant just be this and that because you hate the north.....But remember facts dont lie!

What do you know...since you can't read well, I only mentioned Rivers and Lagos, not the whole south.
Re: VAT: Samuel Ortom Supports Lagos, Rivers In Case Against FIRS by enonche85(m): 1:40pm On Sep 11, 2021
NinjaMetahuman:
he meant overall tax not vat

The bone of contention here that Wike stated and is fighting for is VAT.
Re: VAT: Samuel Ortom Supports Lagos, Rivers In Case Against FIRS by enonche85(m): 1:43pm On Sep 11, 2021
Sammerboi:
That Moro is bloody liar leave him lol. If he likes make he put Yobe ahead of Rivers, southern states go start dey collect their own VAT.

Ortom is warming up to join already.. grin cheesy grin
Re: VAT: Samuel Ortom Supports Lagos, Rivers In Case Against FIRS by chiwuike20: 3:19pm On Sep 11, 2021
Ibkhaleel001:
[s][/s] sluggish brain....Yeye empty rants...

Whats the point in the whole jaggon you penned?

Online tribalist hater you are just making empty noise here with no knowledge ONLY FIVE STATES CONTRIBUTE 87% OF VAT IN NIGERIA

Lagos state-55%

FCT. -20%

Rivers. - 6%

Kano. -5%

Kaduna. -1%

Where is your state?

Sorry to say but you are the one ranting. And does his state have to be there for him to state his organized and in formative opinion?

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Re: VAT: Samuel Ortom Supports Lagos, Rivers In Case Against FIRS by avidleo: 5:41pm On Sep 11, 2021
Folks like you.

Your case will be that of penny wise pounds foolish.

At least my state government vehicles are not being seized because of debts.

Imp..


ibrahimsalam:
Stale! Is ortom the only state governor owing salaries? Let's hear word
If you witness the type of killings meted against his people the way he has witnessed ,you would have probably lost your senses by now.
Re: VAT: Samuel Ortom Supports Lagos, Rivers In Case Against FIRS by ogwumgbe: 3:07am On Sep 12, 2021
Truthissupreme:
funny enough at the time they went to NASS rivers has already gotten a judgment supporting it based on the constitution and acting on it

Meaning the period the constitution existed is what is still guiding the judgement

Even if NASS fraudulently change it, the courts would still be judging based on the actual constitution before change

So much love how San woolu signed into law his own sharply before NASs makes a change

When NASS changes it, it would only affect other states that didn't meet this deadline

Either way Lagos and Rivers is all that's important




Useless trannies we have in the South East will not start fighting for their own VATS now, I wonder where all these idiots just came from. If one doesn't have what it takes to govern, he should just simply sit down and allow those that are eligible to fill the gap. Useless asslicking idiots calling themselves governors
Re: VAT: Samuel Ortom Supports Lagos, Rivers In Case Against FIRS by enonche85(m): 11:42am On Sep 13, 2021
NinjaMetahuman:
he meant overall tax not vat

You mean this overall revenue?.. sad

Re: VAT: Samuel Ortom Supports Lagos, Rivers In Case Against FIRS by NinjaMetahuman: 12:10pm On Sep 13, 2021
enonche85:


You mean this overall revenue?.. sad
that's igr.
Re: VAT: Samuel Ortom Supports Lagos, Rivers In Case Against FIRS by enonche85(m): 5:03pm On Sep 13, 2021
NinjaMetahuman:
that's igr.

Are we talking about external generated revenue?. angry sad

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