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Re: AUKUS: France Calls Boris Johnson An Opportunist 'fifth Wheel On The Carriage' by achillesfoot(m): 9:54am On Sep 19, 2021 |
Meninmen:. Normally I wouldn't respond but look at it well. It's not a matter of colonial mentality cos if it's so, then we are all part of it including you cos you replied me in English language.. 21st century or not, What I'm saying is the UK and US are one, not two, one.. It's like the case of elder and younger brother.. So if the UK backs off for the US to fix it doesn't mean they are weak.. If you read properly I said they have perfected the art of camouflage... You see those British people, boss free them oh, their own witchcraft is on another level. Them come carry our own add join their own.. 1 Like |
Re: AUKUS: France Calls Boris Johnson An Opportunist 'fifth Wheel On The Carriage' by Wrecxman(m): 10:17am On Sep 19, 2021 |
diplomat058: And by the time the dumb and gullible French-speaking African countries wake up from their slumber and reject France, they'd be no more than a remodeled Benin Republic. |
Re: AUKUS: France Calls Boris Johnson An Opportunist 'fifth Wheel On The Carriage' by JuanDeDios: 10:37am On Sep 19, 2021 |
Buliwyf:If they have a case, I think they should do that. Better than these tantrums. |
Re: AUKUS: France Calls Boris Johnson An Opportunist 'fifth Wheel On The Carriage' by Buliwyf: 10:40am On Sep 19, 2021 |
JuanDeDios: I think they don't want to drag the case in court. They are just looking for other forms of compensation so they are trying to be as loud as possible so they still get something out of it. Also remember that if they just keep quiet about it, they will be sending the wrong signals to everyone that they can take any nonsense without protest. That's the point of this whole tantrum you are seeing. 1 Like |
Re: AUKUS: France Calls Boris Johnson An Opportunist 'fifth Wheel On The Carriage' by Cousin9999: 11:32am On Sep 19, 2021 |
Wrecxman: Why are you so mad at Francophone Africans? Did some Congolese take your girl? Mind you, Ivory Coast and Senegal welcome Nigerians while Ghana doesn't. Enjoy this Congolese music and relax. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rTgW637A4BU |
Re: AUKUS: France Calls Boris Johnson An Opportunist 'fifth Wheel On The Carriage' by Nobody: 12:26pm On Sep 19, 2021 |
achillesfoot: My brother, as things stand today, the UK is not a major world power, whether militarily or financially. The US and UK are the closest allies in the world. We all know. But the US is like the elder brother and UK the younger brother. The US can start a war on it's own, even against a strong country. The UK can't. It must be sure the US is with it on going to war before it decides to go to war. 1 Like |
Re: AUKUS: France Calls Boris Johnson An Opportunist 'fifth Wheel On The Carriage' by Nobody: 1:25pm On Sep 19, 2021 |
cyrilamx: Lol. What is this one saying? How does this your comment contribute meaningfully to the discussion on ground? As things stand today, Britian is not a major world power; whether militarily or financially. This is a fact that is not debatable! Do you know France helped the US fight the American revolution war against Britain that resulted in British loss and America gaining independence? Does that make France a world power today? No! |
Re: AUKUS: France Calls Boris Johnson An Opportunist 'fifth Wheel On The Carriage' by themanderon: 2:24pm On Sep 19, 2021 |
Look at the hypocritical France pointing fingers at others. They are the reason most francophone African countries are dirt poor today. |
Re: AUKUS: France Calls Boris Johnson An Opportunist 'fifth Wheel On The Carriage' by JuanDeDios: 6:40pm On Sep 19, 2021 |
Buliwyf:Fair point. |
Re: AUKUS: France Calls Boris Johnson An Opportunist 'fifth Wheel On The Carriage' by nervorum: 1:23am On Sep 20, 2021 |
Buliwyf: Oga, im not a foreign policy expert neither are you. We are just sharing our views in a public forum respectfully, as civilized ppl do, no need for the insolent tone. Energy is both a political and economic tool. There is a reason it was blocked by the Trump administration (reasonably so). You cannot be asking the US to defend you against an enemy (via NATO) , yet find it okay to have a crucial trade partnership (with a huge implication on your economy) with your supposed rival. When Germany becomes the chief financier of NATO, they can choose to 'dine' with Russia all they want. THAT GAS PIPELINE WOULD BE WEAPONIZED BY PUTIN'S Russia. Pls bookmark this comment. Every country wants to have a tactical advantage in the global power play. Putin excels at this. 1 Like |
Re: AUKUS: France Calls Boris Johnson An Opportunist 'fifth Wheel On The Carriage' by nervorum: 2:12am On Sep 20, 2021 |
kjhova: I like the perspective expressed in your penultimate paragraph. Indeed every nation has a right to rise. While the rise of other nations would bring checks and balances, I personally have concerns about how China and Russia would become if they have enormous power, looking at how they support and prop up irresponsible and rogue govts. Like every nation has a right to rise, every nation reserves the right to form strategic alliances with whoever they choose, to protect their interest. China's assertion and irresponsible (in my view) land grabbing recently (in the south China Sea) is deeply concerning |
Re: AUKUS: France Calls Boris Johnson An Opportunist 'fifth Wheel On The Carriage' by Buliwyf: 7:14am On Sep 20, 2021 |
nervorum: I am sorry if you perceived my tune as insolent. Unfortunately when communicating in text the actual tune is sometimes lost and it's usually left to the reader to interpret the tune however he wants. And with the combative environment that Nairaland is I can see why it's easy to assume the other party is deriding you. Trust me, I am truly interested in what you propose for them to do that is better than what those countries are doing now. Even at the height of the cold war, the US was trading with the USSR and so were part of Europe not under the Eastern bloc. Even right now most US consumer tech is imported and made partly or wholly in China. America has been the one propping China up for their own gain. Yet you don't want Germans to import Natural gas for their own energy and industrial needs at a cheap rate from Russia. And you don't want France to build nuclear power plants for them either considering that that's one of France's area of expertise. So I am really curious to know if you have a better proposal for how those countries should handle their trade or if you just want them to be totally reliant on the US for everything. On the matter of Russia weaponizing the pipeline, it won't. At least not so easily unless there is war between Germany and Russia. Russia will not want to anger the few trading partners it has by doing that. The only reason that the pipeline is a concern is that Russia can then bypass countries like Ukraine and Poland who are collecting a certain amount from the older pipeline. I only feel sorry for Ukraine. I hope they find a way to mend their relationship with Russia or get their own gas from elsewhere. But I don't feel a bit sorry for Poland. Those guys are currently doing everything against EU plans for their own interests and even threatening democratic reforms in the EU. But they don't want Germany to buy gas in its own interests? 1 Like |
Re: AUKUS: France Calls Boris Johnson An Opportunist 'fifth Wheel On The Carriage' by Buliwyf: 7:23am On Sep 20, 2021 |
nervorum: You realise the US is guilty of this too right? We can't even count how many coup they have masterminded for their own gain and how many dictators they kept propping up. The only difference is that China and Russia don't make movies that we watch that can paint them as the good guys always. |
Re: AUKUS: France Calls Boris Johnson An Opportunist 'fifth Wheel On The Carriage' by kjhova(m): 7:37am On Sep 20, 2021 |
nervorum: You would mostly be victim of an information bubble and never realize. Talking about "...support and prop up irresponsible and rogue govts...", if we live on the same planet, that description fit the US, UK & France more than any other nation on Earth. You may not be familiar with why the apartheid govt in S/Africa lasted so long. Also read up on Guatemala, Haiti, Zaire/Congo, Iran, Algeria, Afghanistan, Panama, Vietnam, Israel/Palestine etc on other classic cases of using US might to force the wrong govt on innocent people while fleecing their lands. Also read up historical records of the South China Sea. It's called "South China" sea for a reason. Until the hated communists came to power in 1946 & reclaimed it for China from British control, it was always regarded as belonging to China & nobody ever argued against this. You have to realize that almost all your sources of news is Western. Your views and scope are likely to be well shaped by their argument and their point of view. You have to consciously get above that bubble and seek out the other side of the argument. Let me riddle you this. China has NEVER invaded any other nation in our living memory. However, in the last few decades, UK & US have invaded or funded insurgency in; Vietnam, Korea, Yoguslavia, Argentina, Panama, Guatemala, Iran, Iraq, Lebanon, Somalia, Libya, Nicaragua, Ireland, Sudan, Somalia, Angola, Mocambique, Afghanistan etc al! Who should we really be scared of? China with her loan deals or the US with their military boots?! 1 Like |
Re: AUKUS: France Calls Boris Johnson An Opportunist 'fifth Wheel On The Carriage' by Buliwyf: 8:10am On Sep 20, 2021 |
kjhova: I couldn't have put it this eloquently |
Re: AUKUS: France Calls Boris Johnson An Opportunist 'fifth Wheel On The Carriage' by nervorum: 6:17pm On Jan 29, 2022 |
Buliwyf: BBC News - Why Germany isn't sending weapons to Ukraine https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-60155002 Isn't it becoming clear nordstrom 2 is working in favour of Putin's long nursed ambition? |
Re: AUKUS: France Calls Boris Johnson An Opportunist 'fifth Wheel On The Carriage' by Buliwyf: 6:21pm On Jan 29, 2022 |
nervorum: BBC Article: ...the reasons why Europe's most powerful country is standing back are historical and complex. [Goes on to explain historical reasons among others] Nervorum: Look! Look!! It's Nordstream 2!!! |
Re: AUKUS: France Calls Boris Johnson An Opportunist 'fifth Wheel On The Carriage' by nervorum: 6:39pm On Jan 29, 2022 |
Buliwyf: This my guy sef. Lol |
Re: AUKUS: France Calls Boris Johnson An Opportunist 'fifth Wheel On The Carriage' by Buliwyf: 7:49pm On Jan 29, 2022 |
nervorum: |
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