MENELIIK:


No sir! Get your facts right, it started as Wetern region and in 1963 carved out as Mid West and if you doubt me, give this forum the name of the premier of Mid West in 1960. They are like Osun, Ondo and other Yoruba states to some extent for instance there some people in Edo state of today with two Yoruba names, Iteskiris in Delta have names very close to Yoruba names for instance, Omowunmi in Yoruba while Omawumi in Itsekiri. The two revered traditional rulers in both Edo and Delta use Yoruba title " Oba and Olu". Your hatred for Yoruba will not do anything about history

Therefore Tinubu is controlling Edo and Delta
Hahahahaha

Eriokanmi:
Tinubu isn't contesting. Mark my words

Why are u so sure, my friend?

cryptotech:

They are the most smart, successful and intelligent black ethnic group in Africa and the world, go and ask England they will tell you. People that have invented talking drum to the amazement of the European and to strengthen their defense, they have organised system of government in ancient times, the Oyo empire.
They just got it honestly, let them withdraw their intellectual contribution to present day Nigerian as a country and see how Nigerian will look like, is it the almajiri of the north (Boko Haram) or the trader from the East (ipob) that will fill the gap in education, engineering, technology, industry, housing, entertainment, tourism, ICT and civilization.

My head swell oo. Thank you.

humilitypays:
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What Igbos lost during and after the civil war, Yorubas gained, so what's the fuss about
What Igbos are suffering today is the effect of the civil war they lost. It is not easy fighting the rest of the country in a multi tribal nation, Igbos did it and came out bigger today, that alone should make you respect Igbos.

You are an epitome of the word 'CONFUSED'!
On one hand, you say Igbos came out of the Civil War Stronger than everybody.
On the other hand, you say Igbos have been suffering after the Civil War.
If they came out Stronger, they cant still be suffering till today.
You are confused.

humilitypays:

If Yorubas fought a war against the rest of Nigeria of which they dont have the liver and courage to do anyway, by now the whole Yoruba nation would have been forced to relocate to Togo as refugees.

The above is why most people ascribe sophistication to Yorubas!
Smart people dont fight a war that will be making them suffer till eternity, Yorubas certainly wont do that.
If Igbos want to boast and massage their ego by fighting a war that will make them suffer for 1000yrs, who will you blame for that, is it Yorubas?

You say Yorubas don thave Liver and Courage but they have produced the President a few times, yet you that have Liver and Courage has been reduced to "a small dot and 5%", by your eternal masters, the same people you are now saying you want to Vote for, just so Yorubas cant have it? What manner of self defeating idiocy is that?
SPITE towards Yorubas wont help the Igbos achieve anything.

humilitypays:

The political issues and challenges Igbos are facing in Nigeria today is as a result of the civil war they fought and lost, it made other tribes to be scared of Igbos, it made Northerners to be scared of Igbos. Of course Northerners will most likely partner with Yorubas that joined them sheepishly to fight Igbos during the civil war, it's natural.

Hheheheheh I just cant stop laughing.
Every Tribe is SCARED of the Igbos? You this guy funny-die.

I hate to say this but the truth is that the Igbos are suffering and are being treated like a Slave, by Northerners, since after the war..
Yorubas generally are fair-minded people and so cannot treat Igbos badly (that is why the SW is full of Igbos as of today) but the Northerners treat you less than they would treat a Donkey and here you are boasting that they are SCARED of you?

Abeg, pray make your Mouth nor send you to the Grave because this Chest-beating is what got you where you are today.
No one is scared of the Igbos, just that Igbos are very boastful and every other tribe just laugh at their folly.
See the way the Northern military are killing you, on your own land! See the way their herdsmen are killing you, on your own land, where is that your bravery that you are boasting about, that makes you call others Cowards, others who are not even suffering the same calamity on a daily basis like you?
What kind of grand delusion is that?

[quote author=humilitypays post=105987850]
Inwardly Igbos are superpowers than the Yorubas or Hausa-Fulanis but when it comes to national politics in Nigeria, to be honest, Hausa-Fulanis and Yorubas command more influence than Igbos since the end of the civil war and it's normal all over the world for people that lost war.[quote]

You see how confused you have become?
You dont even understand that with any sort of power, comes Political Influence!
Look at all the Super Power Countries (US, Russia, China, UK, Germany, etc), can you see that they all have Political Influence around the World? It is being Powerful that makes you command Political Influence and in Nigeria, you have said the Igbos have no Political Influence like the Northerners and the Yoruba, meaning Igbos are the least Powerful in Nigeria. That is sheer logic.
Even the Northerners "respect" Yorubas, when it comes to Power Politics or any sort of Power Show but they treat Igbos like scum, yet you are here mouthing-off like Agama Lizard.

humilitypays:

So before you start bragging and opening mouth like a typical Yoruba man, go and read your history, Igbos were the leaders and commanders of Nigerian politics to the envy of other tribes before the civil war.

The bolded is true! Igbos were very greedy and just like Buhari is doing with his Fulani today, that every other tribe is agitating, Igbos put themselves everywhere, because Nnamdi Azikwe was President and Aguiyi Oronsi was Head of State!
Infact, l have read where Igbos of that time, boasted (just as you are boasting now) that other Nigerian tribes will be their Slave!
And you know what, that is what started the enimity between Northerners and Igbos.
Igbos grabbed and grabbed until there was nothing left to grab but like Oliver Twist, they were never satisfied and carried out an Ethnic Cleansing of mostly Northern Military and Political Leaders (including some Yorubas too).

Northerners retalliated and cleaned Igbos too. As a matter of fact, the Yoruba military Commander in Ibadan, used his Life to ransom that of Aguiyi Ironsi, when the Northerners came calling. He insisted that it is over his dead body, that they would kill Ironsi, who was his guest! The Northerners begged him that they have no business with him and he should just let them have Ironsi otherwise theywould kill him too.
He insisted that he would not submit a "fellow Southerner" to them, as long as he is alive.
The Northerners killed him and then killed Aguiyi Ironsi, the Igbo President.
It is that same Yoruba Man's offsprings that you ingrates are abusing as of today!
And since then, the Northerner still hold a special hatred for the Igbos but shockingly and ironically, the Igbos prefer to run to the same Northerners, in other to spite Yorubas! If the Northerners have changed their hatred for Igbos, maybe l will understand but it is obvious, even in the current Govt, with all the "Operation Crocodile Smile", Operation Lizard Dance, Operation this and that in Igboland, that the Northerner see Igbosland as a conquered territory and the Igbo people as conquered Slaves.

Instead of Igbos to think strategically,stop their emotional foolishness and align with Yorubas, for the long term, they are dragging and crying over 2023 Presidency with Yorubas and threatening to give it to the same Northerners, after their 8yrs of failure.
You know what? Go and support the Northerner for another 8yrs. Your condition will continue to get worse and when the Northerners realize Yorubas are getting angry, they will come and offer them the Presidency of Nigeria (It has happened before) but as for you, despite your ass-licking and cutting of your Nose to spite the SW, you will continue to be what the Northerner call you: "a dot and 5%".

You have a choice: Calm down for the long term, Support Yorubas in 2023 so that they can make drastic changes that will favour your emergence as President, in 2028 0r 2032 (Yorubas keep tp Political agreement, unlike the Northerners) or
Keeping running to Northerners, they will give you an "Osinbande post" of VP once in a while. as they have done since 1970 till dat, No more, No less. The Choice is yours.

humilitypays:

That 1966 Nzeogwu led coup destroyed everything Igbos had built in Nigeria and that's why I laugh at people that call that ill-fated coup an Igbo coup. Why would Igbo political elites carry out a coup when Igbos were literally in charge of almost everything in Nigeria then It was something planned and executed by young naive military officers from all parts of Nigeria with majority from Eastern Nigeria out of their own mindset, was never an Igbo agenda coup at all. My uncle was among the coupist and he regretted their action cos they wanted to make Awolowo President thinking he was the better leader for Nigeria then not knowing he was a power-mongering, cunning man like today Tinubu who would later joined Hausa-Fulanis to fight Igbos.

Your Uncle, like most Igbo Fathers, have been lying to their Children, trying to curry sympathy from them, that they were maltreated and especially that they have No-Fault in what led to the Biafran debacle.
Let me summarise the TRUTH here for you and you can go slap that your Uncle:
1) Igbos were grabbing everything in sight for themselves, including the Military commands, just like Fulanis are doing today but Hausas still control the Central Power.
2) The Northerners were getting agitated and as usual in their blood-thirsty madness, they slaughter Igbos regularly, in their "Progroms".
3) In their bid to retaliate, Igbo Officers in the military planned that Coup to seize Power. In that Coup, they informed all their Igbo Officers to either travel out of the country or stay away from work, so it wont look like they deliberately spared their own kinsmen.
4) They killed the Northern Officers, their Political leaders, did same to Southern Leaders but not a single Igbo Officer was killed.
This is what gave them out!
The aim was to seize complete control of the country's military and Political apparatus, dominate other tribes completely and do so with force.. The Plan worked but not for too long because the Northerners also organised their own Revenge Coup, which led to the death of a lot of Igbo Officers and started another roynd of targeting of Igbos in the North.
5) When the killing of Igbos in the North became unbearable, this led Ojukwu to decide he will secede Igboland from Nigeria.
6) The Northerners became bolder, after the success of that Counter-Coup
For added perspective,
6) Ojukwu knew his Biafran Army could not take on the Nigerian Army alone, so he tried to co-opt the Southerners to secede at the same time. he had meetings with Awolowo, who was premier of Western Region.
7) Awolowo made him understand that the whole South West is surrounded by Northern Troops at that moment, they were in-charge of all the SW Garrisons and it will be suicide for Yorubas to start a secession war at that point in time. He pleaded with Ojukwu to bid more time, so they can plan properly. He made Ojukwu understand that he was not ready to lead his Yoruba folks to slaughter because they were not armed nor prepared for such War. How do you got to War on impulse, without stockpile of weapons, without adequate planning, he asked Ojukwu?
Ojukwu and Awolowo went to Aburi Conference with the Northerners and Ojukwu, in his brilliance, was well prepared and he got all the concessions he needed at that conference. He floored the Northerners completely, infact, he took their Aboki brains to the cleaners. Awolowo heaved a sigh that at least, War has been averted.
9) When the Northern delegate came back, their Leaders reneged on the Aggrement signed in Aburi.
Ojukwu was furious and he declared Biafran secession immediately, without further consultation with Awolowo.
Awolowo sent emissaries to him but he rebuffed them, saying "there was no going back".
10) When the war was ongoing and Biafra was not getting traction, he figured that if he could make the SW start their own secession war, the Northerners will have to face two fronts and that would give him leverage but he showed no concern for what will happen to the "unprepared" South Westerners.

11) Awolowo refused to be forced into War of secession. This angered Ojukwu and instead of bombing Northwards towards the Hausa enclaves, he started attacking and bombing Southwards, toward Yorubaland.

12) Ojukwu's Biafra bombed a place called Casino Cinema area, in Ebute Metta, in Lagos. He bombed Ijebu Ode, Benin. He conquered all the South South States and conscripted them as Slave labour, seized all their local wealth and made them a conquered territory of Biafra.
In all these, Awolowo and Yorubas kept appealing to him that they have no issue with his secession but they cannot start a War in their current state of unpreparedness. When Ojukwu's bombing reached Oore, in present day Ondo State, the Yorubas decided that they wont be a conquered territory like the South South, so they had no choice than to repel Ojukwu's Biafra and in no time, under the leadership of Awolowo, Benjamin "Scorpion" Adekunle and other Yoruba Officers, they drove Ojukwu Army back into Onitcha (in self defense!) and when his Army became crushed, he escaped to Ivory Coast and the remnants of Biafra had no choice but to surrender.
This same OBJ took their Flag of Surrender.

Igbos of today, blame the Yorubas for their loss, due to the lies that their fathers told them, in an attempt to cover-up their own lack of patience, lack of foresight, lack of tactics, lack of strategy, impatience, arrogance of mind, lack of planning, lack of tact, lack of emotional intelligence and boastfulness, most traits that they still exhibit till today (as you can see on this thread) when in reality, they failed because of their weakness.
I hope and pray that people like you, Igbos of today, dont make the same mistakes that Ojukwu's generation made in 1967, same mistake that Nnamdi Kanu made just recently (lack of emotional intelligence, lack of strategy, crass arrogance and lack of tact, etc) because l know that the system is unfair to them but they are not doing the right things to fight the unfair system, they are not even going about breaking-off from the system, in the right way because to catch a Monkey, you must be able to act like one, rather they are fighting those who should be their natural ally, OUT OF SPITE, HATRED AND POSSIBLE ENVY.
This is the "Real History" your Igbo Uncles would not tell you.

Thanks for reading, you may disagree and state your disagreements but if you resort to insults, you will only be confirming what l said abut lacking emotional intelligence, the same way most of you are reacting to what Gov. Akeredolu said, despite not mention the South East.

Remember: You can fight a good cause, in a bad way and you can fight a bad cause, in a good way.

ANDREW91:

When i said south south are south east are one i never really mearnt in terms of biafra.
I was talking politically. When it comes to southern politics the east and south always agree naturally, but the west always seat on the fence waiting for the quickest way that will favour dem.
If u think that u are d only region d north can come to, you are mistaken
Obj ruled 8yrs, GEJ ruled 6years making it 14years for the south. Buhari will rule for 8years, Yaradua ruled for 2years making it 10years.
What make u think the south south cannot go to the north align with dem for GEJ to finish his remaining 4years den after dat power will return back to the North, so the whole thing will balance.
Which do u think will appeal the north more? 4years south south or 8years South west?
You people think you can play politics abi.
Like i said, southern region must zone it to either south east or south south else we follow una play una betrayal politics.
On the issue of being Edo, Edo people are smart, we hate betrayals or people trying to outsmart us (especially the ones that will call us brothers in the day and enemies in our absence) and we teach them lessons goan ask oshiomole
When you people went against the entire south to aligned with the north in 2015, you never said
Smart people dont cut-off their Nose, just to spite their Face.
Rubbish

Jonathan could never have been president without SW, take that to the bank.

You are still thinking in terms of childish politics. Jonathan has since realized his folly and will support the emergence of a SW person in 2023

Ovamboland:


Jonathan could never have been president without SW, take that to the bank.

You are still thinking in terms of childish politics. Jonathan has since realized his folly and will support the emergence of a SW person in 2023

Oga u know where dem dey sell kidney?
I need money not all dis rubbish arguments dat wont put food ob my table

Wiseandtrue:

I said it before that all these move is for Tinubu!

Tinubu that NEVER said anything while innocent Nigerians are killed that's the person they are looking up too

He never even supported Amotekun

What's the probability that Nigeria will do well under him

These are the questions I expected a learned like Akeredolu to address! Not follow anyone sheepishly!

Most Igbos like you lack critical thinking but you are so high on "emotions".
How can all the moves, even attended by someone like Ooyo State, PDP Makinde, be for Tinubu?
Akeredolu is a Politician and calling Tinubu a "Capone" means nothing "outside Politics" and Tinubu is a "Capone" (Leader) of APC all over Nigeria, though Buhari has reduced him to the sidelines.

The whole of SW has passed the Anti Open grazing Law, despite the fact that a place like Lagos does not suffer the effect of Open Grazing but you Easterners, with all your boasting and noise on Social media, How many of your Cowardly Governors are bold enough to confront Buhari, by signing the Anti Open grazing law?
Even Ortom of Benue was the first to pass it.
Akwa Ibom down there has passed it, Rivers has done so, What are Igbos waiting for, apart from forming Superman on Nairaland and crying yhen yhen yhen when the next set of Herdsmen come calling, to Rape, burn and Butcher Igbos?

Keep wailing about Tinubu and Yorubas, dont strategise on how you will survive the Fulani Onslaught your people are suffering.

humilitypays:



were completely in charge of Nigeria before civil war.



President - Dr Nnamdi Azikiwe (Igbo)
Senate President - Chief Nwafor Orizu (Igbo)
IG of Police - Chief Edet (nominated from Eastern zone)
Chief of Army Staff - Gen. Aguiyi Ironsi (Igbo)



Always check your history next time

When Ibo was benefitting from nepotism, domination and asked others to go to blazes.

humilitypays:
Go to school you people wont agree. The ones that went to school only went there to follow girls with big nyash only to graduate without learning a thing.


Go back and read my comment again you this Hafeez Abolade.


Let me quote myself again in bold for educated illiterates like you to understand better:


I said the political issues and challenges Igbos are facing in Nigerian politics today is as a result of the civil war they fought with the rest of Nigeria and lost



Of course if Igbos had won the war, me and you wouldn't be here arguing how Yorubas plan to foist a corrupt, walking dead man as next President of Nigeria after helping to vote in a terrorist as Nigerias President in 2015.



What concerns me, no matter who you acclaimed Yoruba political experts vote in as your next President, God has already made me and my family kings and we will forever live and enjoy our lives like kings we are, na still you commoners go suffer am.


Your only gain will be to brag as usual that your tribesman is the President while on an empty stomach, kontinu

You sound helpless and pained

Ykc2:
if you show me one ikwerre man his name is efosa or obaseki I will show you tunde ogbebor ,Jonathan supported apc candidate because of his rifts with former governor dickson not because of tinubu,just like that criminal Rochas used apga to to become governor

I am not the Wike who said it before the whole world that Ikwerres come from Benin. Amaechi, a prominent Ikwerre son, even bears a Yoruba name "Rotimi" so your reliance on name doesn't cut it.
Isn't it funny that you are able to see that the APC victory in Bayelsa is about the rift between Jonathan and Dickson hence not a Tinubu doing yet you failed to see that PDP victory in Edo State recently is majorly about the people's grouse with Oshiomhole for ever imposing a descendant of a tracherous family on the seat of power in defiance to every wise counsel from the palace and well meaning Edo State sons and daughters in 2016 thus making it not really a decision to spite Tinubu whose preference in 2016 was the same Obaseki?
Your defense line above is not even solid because Jonathan had not started having issues with Dickson when APC won both his Senatorial District and Federal Constituency in the 2019 general elections. So look for another story to tell.

Deadlytruth:


I am not the Wike who said it before the whole world that Ikwerres come from Benin. Amaechi, a prominent Ikwerre son, even bears a Yoruba name "Rotimi" so your reliance on name doesn't cut it.
Isn't it funny that you are able to see that the APC victory in Bayelsa is about the rift between Jonathan and Dickson hence not a Tinubu doing yet you failed to see that PDP victory in Edo State recently is majorly about the people's grouse with Oshiomhole for ever imposing a descendant of a tracherous family on the seat of power in defiance to every wise counsel from the palace and well meaning Edo State sons and daughters in 2016 thus making it not really a decision to spite Tinubu whose preference in 2016 was the same Obaseki?
Your defense line above is not even solid because Jonathan had not started having issues with Dickson when APC won both his Senatorial District and Federal Constituency in the 2019 general elections. So look for another story to tell.

since you said amechi bears yoruba name all your explanation is invalid, you read where amechi said that the rotimi in his name is the name of his yoruba lecturer while his was in university ?now your pretending like his parent named him amechi,

Mrnairalandd:


So you are actually expecting the Yorubas to give you the presidency slot on the APC platform, are Igbos suffering from mental issues? Pls who does that? You called APC all sort of names and went ahead to vote massively against the party but 8 years after, you want the same APC to look at other way and give the slot to the Igbos. Chai! You guys are nothing but greedy bastards.


Another worthless Igbo boy raining curses on his kinsmen, himself and born/unborn children from generation to another.

Igbos want to reap where they didn’t sow, no way! It won’t happen.

As usual, Yorubas won’t be surprised if you Leeches from the erosion ravaged region choose to go into alliance with your slave masters/owners-The Fulanis just to spite the Yorubas. Igbos have done in the past on several occasions to the Yorubas and Yorubas moved on as if nothing happen. However, this time and this new generation, we ll pay you back from now till your unborn children feel the pains of being saboteurs.

Our older generations are the one who are patient with your madness but this new generation of Yorubas ll pay you back everything you have done in the past and at present.

Bleep outta here.

U are just ranting let's wait and see .

Ovamboland:


This one is still living in stone ages, can you imagine of all Nigeria leadership problems still talking of christian Muslim

that is how it have been..
It will end the day Nigeria ends quota system and encourage merit.

Ykc2:
since you said amechi bears yoruba name all your explanation is invalid, you read where amechi said that the rotimi in his name is the name of his yoruba lecturer while his was in university ?now your pretending like his parent named him amechi,

Yet Amachi uses that Yoruba name officially?