TheSupleemLeada:


Zik was no nationalist. He only pushed for one Nigeria because he had the rettarded idea that he could manipulate the north and have his tribesmen dominate all spheres of Nigeria, same idea ironsi had when he banned regionalism. We all know how that ended.

Zik was simply doing the British bidding isn't that right? So How Does that benefit his tribesmen
He was out to save himself isn't that right?

Nope Ironsi had no idea, he didn't even do anything for his tribesmen...

Do you have any material on the 6 months reign of Ironsi? I need some

Omoluabi1stborn:


Gbam!



Bigsarah, in your readings did you read this?


”Igbo domination of Nigeria is only a matter of time”- Charles Onyeama, a prominent igbo lawyer and member of the Central Legislative Council, 1945. (Page 204 ”Ethnic Politics In Kenya and Nigeria” by Godfrey Mwakikagile).

”It would appear that the God of Africa has created the Igbo nation to lead the children of Africa from the bondage of ages ….” – Dr Azikiwe, President of the Pan-Igbo Federal Union. (The West African Pilot of July 8, 1949).

Yes I've read all that... What Tribal leader didn't make similar statements like that be honest!!!

Bello and balewa did
Zik did
Even Awo and akintola

I don't see it as anything

BigSarah:


Yes I've read all that... What Tribal leader didn't make similar statements like that be honest!!!

Bello and balewa did
Zik did
Even Awo and akintola

I don't see it as anything

They make similar statement but who started it?

”Igbo domination of Nigeria is only a matter of time”- Charles Onyeama, a prominent igbo lawyer and member of the Central Legislative Council, 1945. (Page 204 ”Ethnic Politics In Kenya and Nigeria” by Godfrey Mwakikagile).

Why do you think Egbe omo oduduwa and Action group were formed in 1948?

Except you provide a earlier tribal and divisive comment that was made and recorded in the politics of southern Nigeria pre 1945.

That was the first tribal comment in Southern Nigeria.



Why do you think Zik lost the premiership of the Western Region in 1953 to AG?

TheSupleemLeada:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WiDjC--8JA8&list=PLlbZETaE2JJPEG8ZU_8xIhI7T7J_p81sG&index=61

That's a video of Harold Smith(a former british colonial officer) he over saw elections in pre-colonial nigeria and shared his thoughts on Awo, Enahoro and your beloveth Azikiwe, If you have data watch it and educate yourself.

Below is Obed-Edom Azikiwe father of Nnamdi Azikiwe seated at the left side of lugard. He was nigeria's very first Uncle Tom and loyal slave assistant to lugard. The issue with must of you Igbos apart from high levels of group narcissism is the fact that you find it difficult to take responsibility for your actions and hold your leaders accountable..... there's always an outside force you'd find to blame.

Lobatan!!!




Ps: That was not Zik Father . Zik Father was a Railwayman he was not an administrator

BigSarah:


Zik was simply doing the British bidding isn't that right? So How Does that benefit his tribesmen
He was out to save himself isn't that right?

Nope Ironsi had no idea, he didn't even do anything for his tribesmen...

Do you have any material on the 6 months reign of Ironsi? I need some

He was doing the bidding of the british because they had him in a cvckhold and which ever leader allied with the colonizers had their tribes men to benefit alot from such relationship.... there's a reason igbos populated the civil service pre-independence and even during ironsi's time. Also Ironsi and Zik where close friends and ironsi's actions after the first coup said it all. I won't suggest or recommend any material, research yourself and make your deductions but it seems you've already done that.

Omoluabi1stborn:


They make similar statement but who started it?

”Igbo domination of Nigeria is only a matter of time”- Charles Onyeama, a prominent igbo lawyer and member of the Central Legislative Council, 1945. (Page 204 ”Ethnic Politics In Kenya and Nigeria” by Godfrey Mwakikagile).

Why do you think Egbe omo oduduwa and Action group were formed in 1948?

Except you provide a earlier tribal and divisive comment that was made and recorded in the politics of southern Nigeria pre 1945.

That was the first tribal comment in Southern Nigeria.



Why do you think Zik lost the premiership of the Western Region in 1953 to AG?

I agree
But All that doesn't really matter since the British were playing our leaders


This interview sucks


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gSbMescYwc

Christistruth00:




Lobatan!!!




Ps: That was not Zik Father . Zik Father was a Railwayman he was not an administrator

Never said he was an administrator, I said he was like a P.A to lord lugard while in zungeru. It's a known fact.

TheSupleemLeada:


He was doing the bidding of the british because they had him in a cvckhold and which ever leader allied with the colonizers had their tribes men to benefit alot from such relationship.... there's a reason igbos populated the civil service pre-independence and even during ironsi's time. Also Ironsi and Zik where close friends and ironsi's actions after the first coup said it all. I won't suggest or recommend any material, research yourself and make your deductions but it seems you've already done that.

You call what the British had with Zik a relationship?

It's like drug dealer forcing one to transport drugs or he'll be exposed to be murderer..

That's not a relationship.

All the materials I've seen on Ironsi, showed he was sitting duck waiting to be killed..
What a dumb dumb soul.

BigSarah:


You call what the British had with Zik a relationship?

It's like drug dealer forcing one to transport drugs or he'll be exposed to be murderer..

That's not a relationship.

All the materials I've seen on Ironsi, showed he was sitting duck waiting to be killed..
What a dumb dumb soul.

Typical....play the victim card.

Am done.

TheSupleemLeada:


Typical....play the victim card.

Am done.

Victim how?
I'm not even trying to exonerate anyone...
Anyway thanks I've learnt who Zik truly was today!
Cheers

zik stop referendum clause in nigeria constitution......
ironsi changed federated nigeria to centre system of government.....
ironsi with help of ojukwu sentenced Boro to death for declaring niger delta republic....
nor be today igbos dey become problem of evri bodi in nigeria....
their desperate to lord over everybody always bring calamity not only to them, but every body...
now they another forceful biafra marriage just to lord over niger deltans, but evri bodi done wise..

kettykin:
So Zik was that powerful not only to out maneuver awolowo on the constitution but to determine what is put in and what's it not put in . By the way was it not awolowo that caused the Cross carpeting of NCNC politicians to AG , how come he did not use that strategy to get what he wanted in the constitution.

Read it again the British used the veto power to favour zik

Omoluabi1stborn:


They make similar statement but who started it?

”Igbo domination of Nigeria is only a matter of time”- Charles Onyeama, a prominent igbo lawyer and member of the Central Legislative Council, 1945. (Page 204 ”Ethnic Politics In Kenya and Nigeria” by Godfrey Mwakikagile).

Why do you think Egbe omo oduduwa and Action group were formed in 1948?

Except you provide a earlier tribal and divisive comment that was made and recorded in the politics of southern Nigeria pre 1945.

That was the first tribal comment in Southern Nigeria.



Why do you think Zik lost the premiership of the Western Region in 1953 to AG?

Charles Dadi Onyeama was the Father of Onyeama the current Foreign Minister , the Father was also a Supreme Court Judge

Omoluabi1stborn:


They make similar statement but who started it?

”Igbo domination of Nigeria is only a matter of time”- Charles Onyeama, a prominent igbo lawyer and member of the Central Legislative Council, 1945. (Page 204 ”Ethnic Politics In Kenya and Nigeria” by Godfrey Mwakikagile).

Why do you think Egbe omo oduduwa and Action group were formed in 1948?

Except you provide a earlier tribal and divisive comment that was made and recorded in the politics of southern Nigeria pre 1945.

That was the first tribal comment in Southern Nigeria.



Why do you think Zik lost the premiership of the Western Region in 1953 to AG?

Awo holding onto one Nigeria pre independence


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xGxtVhpBAr0

Omoluabi1stborn:



The truth is.
Both Igbos and Fulanis destroyed this country.

Politics of bloodshed started in the South West between awolowo and akintola, tribalism started with awolowo and ahmadu Bello,

kettykin:
So Zik was that powerful not only to out maneuver awolowo on the constitution but to determine what is put in and what's it not put in . By the way was it not awolowo that caused the Cross carpeting of NCNC politicians to AG , how come he did not use that strategy to get what he wanted in the constitution.

mumu

kettykin:
So Zik was that powerful not only to out maneuver awolowo on the constitution but to determine what is put in and what's it not put in . By the way was it not awolowo that caused the Cross carpeting of NCNC politicians to AG , how come he did not use that strategy to get what he wanted in the constitution.

Yeah, Azikiwe was so powerful and that powerfulness has put you and your generation in perpetual bondage to Fulani jihadists.

LordIsaac:

Followed by the system introduced by Aguyi Ironsi....yet, his region would always be the first to cry wolf.

Mumu, so it was Zik that renegage on Aburi accord? Una never see anything. You idiots must accept division by force.

Omoluabi1stborn:



The truth is.
Both Igbos and Fulanis destroyed this country.

Yorubas destroyed nigeria when they adviced the muguh called gowon to renegade on aburi accord.

Bialegend:

Mumu, so it was Zik that renegage on Aburi accord? Una never see anything. You idiots must accept division by force.

...oya go na...

Sirjamo:
I am sorry to say these, but, all the woes that Nigeria is going through today is as a result of the original sins committed by Zik, Nzeogwu and Ojukwu.

children of hate will disagree with you...

The truth is the Igbos are very greedy, and power drunk, they believe they are smarter than the other tribes, and can lord over everyone, the reason Zik rejected the clause, and same reason Nzeogwu, and Co carry out the coup.

I always told my Igbo friends that they need to admit fault about their divisive roles in Nigeria and stop playing the ostrich.
Ironsi sent Ojukwu to shut down Isaac Adaka Boro calls for secession of the Niger-delta, arraign him before a special tribunal and sentence him to death.

Bialegend:

Mumu, so it was Zik that renegage on Aburi accord? Una never see anything. You idiots must accept division by force.

Many of you shouting Aburi do not understand how it came about.

Deadly Truth: Igbos frequently reference Aburi Accord to create the impression that the rest Nigerian tribes don't honour agreements. This is a very dishonest narrative from Igbos.
First and foremost Aburi Accord was organized by soldiers and unelected civil servants who should not participate in political exercises like making laws due to the civil service anonymity principle. Secondly, those civil servants and military men in attendance were not elected by their federal constituencies to the Aburi summit. In the philosophy of democracy the only universally acceptable way of making laws is through duly elected representatives of the people. But in going to Aburi the peoples' representatives duly elected in the 1965 elections were all sidelined for soldiers to hijack the process.
Where on earth do soldiers make laws for the people? Rather, the civilian populace makes laws that guide the military. Aburi Accord therefore had no seal of the people's sovereignty hence it was an illegality which shouldn't have been allowed to stand.
Thirdly, in 1957, Nigerians from all federal constituencies democratically elected representatives whom they sponsored to London, paid their flight tickets and hotel accommodation for the Independence constitutional conference. Those representatives all resolved and agreed on federalism marked by regional autonomy and resource control in the Independence Constitution which they brought back home and everyone accepted it.
In that constitution, Nigerians all agreed that on no account shall the military take over power. It was also clearly stated in it that ammendments to it could be done by only democratically elected representatives.
That constitution was the first ever agreement between all Nigerians.
On the day of his inauguration as the Army GoC, Aguiyi Ironsi stood before the whole world and with his own mouth swore to protect and defend that sovereign Independence constitution regardless of the circumstances that may later arise. But just six years after he manufactured an excuse to clinch power against the clear provisions of that constitution we all agreed to, unilaterally began to amend its provisions with his very offensive Decrees, and ended up dismantling the federalism and resource control therein, and ultimately subverted that constitution we all painstakingly sacrificed to draft.
That was the height of Irresponsibility and the dishonoring of sacred agreement.
That was how Igbos breached the first agreement, all Nigerians, ever mutually consented to, thus laying the foundation for violation of future agreements.
So Aburi Accord was only treated exactly the same way Igbos treated the Independence constitution agreement.

What is the relevance of the secession clause to Nigeria's present predicament?

Vado:
Nnamdi Azikiwe was the architect of Southern Nigeria’s misfortunes. So greedy for leadership of a delusional united Nigeria he allowed shortsightedness prevail over logic. Northerners love him more than people in the South. That should tell you something. May he continue to chill in Hades.

Uchek:
What is the relevance of the secession clause to Nigeria's present predicament?

Because if it had happened, there wouldn't be a Nigerian predicament in the first place.

You did not respond to the issue he raised regarding the subject matter. How did one person (Zik) over ride the two people (Awo and Bello)

Sunnybay7:

Dull comment as usual,shifting the goal post to sound intelligent but your brain failed you woefully. You should be watching mtv not commenting on serious issues.

This thread will be bookmarked.

All liars must be disgraced!

BigSarah:


Yes I've read all that... What Tribal leader didn't make similar statements like that be honest!!!

Bello and balewa did
Zik did
Even Awo and akintola

I don't see it as anything

show us?
I'm sure you can't
No western leader ever talks so stupidly and directly
That's why you guys call us snakes
That's diplomacy 101