Emusan:


That means NT shouldn't be considered as part of the scripture, since the name can't be found it.



If this is true as you claimed, then why WTBTS refused to include the name in some places when they know it's about Jesus Christ?



Where was the separation happened, in the NT or OT?

haddeylium:


That still begs the question? Why does the YAHWEH not appear in your Bible the number of times it was written?

Yahweh is a transliterated form of God's name
Jehovah is the translated form of it.
Linguistically, a translated word doesn't has to retain the same letters it was translated from?
Let me give you an example in Yoruba if you understand it.
Glass
Transliterated form - Gilàasí
Translated- igo

Also, God's Son name
Transliterated form is Yeshua
Translated form is Jesus

Do you understand?

haddeylium:

Lord, God, Oluwa, Olodumare, Chinese, Almighty and millions of them are titles. They're not names. You don't get it?
A man can be called Engineer, Father, Helper, Teacher but that doesn't mean those should replaced his own personal name like Shola.

Dtruthspeaker:


You are just raising unnecessary contention. First of all, No Man knows God's True Name,

Therefore, like Adam giving names to things, we also are the ones who have found a way of giving an identity to He Who is The Creator of All.

Hundredfold4lif:

Have you ever read the scripture where GOD told Moses what His personal name is?
YAHWEH is God's name.
YESHUA is Christ's redemptive name.

achorladey:



What's the issue?

To validate his point, title of his thread and validate the point that all other Christians apart from their religious organisation are false Christians for removing the name from Jehovah from the Bible and using it as opportunity to set up TRINITY.

haddeylium:


Lord, God, Oluwa, Olodumare, Chinese, Almighty and millions of them are titles. They're not names. You don't get it?
A man can be called Engineer, Father, Helper, Teacher but that doesn't mean those should replaced his own personal name like Shola.

Vickyvice:
sorry this is coming late. Read 1st Cor 8 vs 5 and six in your Bible. That Father there is Jehovah in Psalm 83 vs18. He is different and separate person and greater than Jesus and Jesus always refered to him as d one who sent him. Getting to know who alone bears that name will make you ask many, but important questions

haekymbahd:

Exodus 6
3 I appeared to Abraham, to Isaac, and to Jacob by the name God Almighty [El-Shaddai], but by My name the Lord [Yahweh--the redemptive name of God] I did not make Myself known to them [in acts and great miracles].
Why did God appeared to Abraham with the name God Almighty?
If Moses had not ask God for his name would God have told him he was Jehovah?

hupernikao:

Is Jehovah in the Bible to start with? Is that what what was written in the Bible. Do you have Jehovah as a word in any original writings. Let's start from there if you want to be picking spellings, translations and it's usage.

haddeylium:


You don't get it, do you?
Nobody cares if that God's name written the same way it was in Hebrew language.
JOY in English and AYO in Yoruba are spelt differently but they have the same meaning. That's translations.
God's name can be translated in whatever language only if it carries the same meaning bad it is in the bible.
They soiled God's word by removing his name and replacing it with title

Vickyvice:
d issue is that if they hadn'tn't removed it from Bible, u will have to start asking questions about Trinity belief, since Jehovah refers to only one person, who would be clearly different from Jesus.imagine if u and your dad are engineers, professors, and your dad's name is Rex and yours is Michael, and somebody comes asking for the engineer, who lives in the house, how will they know who he's asking for? If they hadn't removed it, you will easily know that though, there are many gods and Lord's, to Christians, we have only one God, Jehovah, and one Lord, Jesus. They are different and seperate, just like both of us are physically different.. read Psalm 83 vs18, where d God himself make am totally impossible for the name, Jehovah to be removed from bible, where it says that "you alone whose name is Jehovah". It's in all Bible's. Apart from this verse, most, infact all other places u see "lord", it is supposed to be Jehovah. Remember that Bible also makes us know and understand that the title "Lord", father, reverence can rightfully be addressed to both God himself, Jesus and even man too

haddeylium:
Good question.
Absolutely! They called him by his name.
Firstly, Jesus name Jehovah is Salvation

Jesus read and quoted them the ancient scrolls. He quoted them exactly how they are. To change even one word would have put his credibility in question and he's against the superstitious belief of the pharisees.

Here are some examples of Jesus quoting the Old Testament that included YHWH's name:

Quoting Deuteronomy 8:3 Jesus says:

“It is written: ‘Man must live, not on bread alone, but on every word that comes from Jehovah’s mouth.’” (Mt 4:4)

Quoting Deuteronomy 6:16 Jesus said:

Again it is written: ‘You must not put Jehovah your God to the test.’ (Mt 4:7)

Quoting Deuteronomy 6:13 Jesus said:

Then Jesus said to him: “Go away, Satan! For it is written: ‘It is Jehovah your God you must worship, and it is to him alone you must render sacred service.’” (Mt 4:10)

Quoting Psalm 110:1 Jesus said:

Jehovah said to my Lord: “Sit at my right hand until I put your enemies beneath your feet”’? (Mt 22:44)

Quoting Isaiah 61:1, 2 Jesus said:

Jehovah’s spirit is upon me, because he anointed me to declare good news to the poor. He sent me to proclaim liberty to the captives and a recovery of sight to the blind, to send the crushed ones away free, (Lu 4:18)

Quoting Joel 2:32 both the Apostle Peter and Apostle Paul [/b]said:

everyone who calls on the name of Jehovah [YHWH] will be saved. (Acts 2:21; Ro 10:13)

How can you make something known unless you tell others what it is. Jesus would have had to use the name to make it known to others.

And like an ambassador representing a kingdom, like an envoy or emissary who would proclaim to all who he represented…

MaxInDHouse:


Joshua, Jonathan, Jeremiah, Jonah, Jehoshaphat, John , Jesus, James were never pronounced like that because the original Hebrew language doesn't have the letter "J" so if we are using those names today nothing makes any difference using JEHOVAH as the personal name of our own God!

hupernikao:

This isn't the focus. You can are trying to justify using a wrong name for God if I am to follow the line of thought of the OP and his fellow.
So if Jehovah is corrupted name, not what was given, how come it is used and allowed in the OP as God's name but see other names translated as issue. Like I said, trying to decide doctrine by spellings and name pronunciation is an effort in futility. Doctrine is not premised on that. But if we want to go that route, there are many evidence to proof that wrong as above.

hupernikao:


So what is Jehovah in your language. What does it mean. Name of God? Nah so.

hupernikao:


Is Jehovah in the Bible to start with? Is that what what was written in the Bible. Do you have Jehovah as a word in any original writings. Let's start from there if you want to be picking spellings, translations and it's usage.

MaxInDHouse:


Well Micah has solved the problem:

For all people will walk every one in the name of his god, and we will walk in the name of the LORD our God for ever and ever. KJV

For all the peoples will walk, each in the name of its god, But we will walk in the name of Jehovah our God forever and ever. NWT

The above is what God's prophet wrote in the Bible book of Micah 4:5

And if Jesus could lay so much emphasis on the name of His God {John 17:6, 26} it means something very significant is tied to knowing God by a unique name not just titles along with the usual way others refer to their Gods!

May you have PEACE!

Hundredfold4lif:


I have a GOD's name Bible called "The Names of GOD Bible" which has answered the question.
However, whenever I read The Word and found LORD in other translations, l immediately know that's YAHWEH etc!
Objectively I agree with you nonetheless!

Emusan:


You said "THEY called him by His name" yet you simply list where Jesus and the Apostles ONLY quoted the Old Testament.

Is that how people CALLED His name in the Old Testament?



Yet the pronunciation of the name lost, how did Jesus pronounce it?




This happened in the synagogue, but the Pharisees and Sadducees couldn't accuse Jesus of blasphemy for pronouncing the name and this is the person they've been looking for opportunities to find charges against.





Both Peter and Paul later reveal the person as Jesus Christ

Peter said "Only Jesus has the power to save! His NAME is the ONLY ONE in all the world that can save anyone." Acts 4:12 CEV

Paul said "So you will be saved, if you honestly say, “Jesus is Lord,”..." Rom 10:9 CEV



So, why was the Apostles didn't know the pronunciation of the name?



Jesus never used the name.

It's so ridiculous to think by quoting book about your father is the best way of using his name not by telling people the actual name.

haddeylium:


Good for you.
However, most other people do not, because Jehovah/Yahweh name has been removed from most of the Bibles they use.
Many people don’t believe that God’s personal name is Jehovah/Yahweh because the campaign to remove God’s name from His own book is alive and doing well, you can attest to it if you're following this thread even though most of them are misinformed.

In every language in which Jehovah’s Witnesses worship, we accept whatever spelling and pronunciation of God’s name that is already established. it can be in any pronunciation or spelling.


THE true God tells us in his written Word, the Bible: “I am Jehovah. That is my name.” (Isaiah 42:

Dtruthspeaker:


God clearly Said "I am, that I am, Tell them I am sent you"

And "I am" surely tells us that His Name is VERY HEAVY AND LOADED but we can manage "I am".

So Yahweh, Yeshua are definitely a tongue of a certain native people.

haddeylium:


Really? What if you go back to the OP's again cos' I don't think you understand an iota of what is been discussed here.

Lemme break it down?
I assumed you're using KJV , The name, Jehovah, occurs in Exodus 6:3, Psalm 83:18, Isaiah 12:2; 26:4 and it was removed in more than 7,000 other places it occurs. The question is WHY?

haddeylium:


Really? What if you go back to the OP's again cos' I don't think you understand an iota of what is been discussed here.

Lemme break it down?
I assumed you're using KJV , The name, Jehovah, occurs in Exodus 6:3, Psalm 83:18, Isaiah 12:2; 26:4 and it was removed in more than 7,000 other places it occurs. The question is WHY?

achorladey:


Who is removing what? Who is unquestionably arranging and omitting names. This is where you should start tackling the MISINFORMATION.

To show you the name you are making an issue of is no issue in this first place. Show us a scripture where Jesus accused the religious leaders of his day for not emphasising his father's name?

Show us where the apostles of Jesus Christ made issues of God's name.

Show us where those that came after the apostles made issues about God's name.

haekymbahd:
Did Jesus or Apostle Paul called God by the name Jehovah

achorladey:


After all Jesus didn't go about with the label JEHOVAH when preaching and teaching people. The words he used is Father paapaa.

Dtruthspeaker:


Hmm! Goal! Sweet Goal!

Dtruthspeaker:

I understand the question but my position is that did the Removal or Replacement Detrack (Detract) the Information from the message being passed?
No, it did not!
Therefore, No Loss or Harm was Suffered or Occasioned.

MaxInDHouse:

Ye are my witnesses, saith the LORD, and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am he: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me. Isaiah 43:10

Janosky:

No dey DECEIVE yourself.
John 17:6,26, Would Jesus quote Deuteronomy 6:4 in the Hebrew scroll @Mark12:29 say "Lord"?
Acts15:14,17-18,The disciples knew Jehovah's name in the old testament.
2 Chronicles 7:14 & Isaiah 43:10,21 (ASV), JEHOVAH's Witnesses is it !