Surayj123:
Na wa o I just dey read comments and the first thing that came to my mind is we Nigerians are so blinded by hate and tribalism that we can't even read before commenting.


These fulanis are victims of violence that were forced to relocate from SE/SW due to consistent attack on them.

we too hate our selves for this country and we go dey complain say White people hate Black

Trying to sound detribalized in today's Nigeria actually makes you look uninformed.

Tribalism has become an official policy of the Nigerian govt. Have you been criticizing Buhari over this?
If you haven't, then gedifvck outta here, and shove that self righteousness in your ass

Islamic leaders must support terrorism because Gumi has never offered medical services to the attacked villagers of plateau, southern kaduna or Benue.

Guyman02:

To generate traffic they have to mention IPOB, that name makes money for them, that's why the Mods scramble among themselves to push all IPOB or Igbo related stories to FP, they make money by the number of clicks on a story

Hatred

Adrian98:

What section? Plus I don’t really know how to go about that

go to politics section and create the tread, it will make sense

whirlwind7:


Trying to sound detribalized in today's Nigeria actually makes you look uninformed.

Tribalism has become an official policy of the Nigerian govt. Have you been criticizing Buhari over this?
If you haven't, then gedifvck outta here, and shove that self righteousness in your ass

As they say,
Silent is the best anwser for a fool

Interesting!

Lionnation:
go to politics section and create the tread, it will make sense

Done already

Surayj123:



As they say,
Silent is the best anwser for a fool

Look in the mirror, asswipe.
Right there in the mirror is the fool.
You replied me, you didn't stay silent. Which makes you the fool

You should have shut the eff up, and I might pretend you have a nugget of sense between your ears.

Meanwhile, it is silence, not silent. You couldn't even spell answer properly.

Detribalized oloribu.

Adrian98:
I believe there are northerners and Muslims here reading this post and also on Nairaland.
I’ll love to get your opinions on how things are going with this gumi man and this whole bandit and herdsmen thing. Please speak freely with and open mind and do not attack any other tribe. Thank you I’ll be expecting

Something is wrong and somethings are also right with this Gumi medical expedition.

There are rumour that this banditry are sponsored by the owners of the dislodged illegal gold miners which majority of them are retired army officials. Some says they are also elites who are never at any point in time like Buhari as a president. They are also category of elites deadly hit hardest by TSA. All these assertion fits Gumi.

However there are genuine Fulani herdsmen that are not bandits. They are also victim of banditry and animal rustling but the media had contributed in politicising the menace in such a way that not only Buhari but majority of the northerners now believe they need to protect or defend their own.

Buhari is just too weak to use government machinery to deal with this people until things get messy and usually too late then. He is too slow.

I was on a casual visit to one of our production factory location in the Southwest last week.....as usual, I decided to stroll around to have a feel of the local environment. I had a chat with some locals who are mainly Yorubas. 2 men stood out, highly intellectual guys.....one a trained Geologist who lost his job during covid last year, and another a Safety professional. We discussed Nigeria's security challenges of recent....I was amazed and scared when these Yoruba villagers narrated their ordeals with Fulani herdsmen.



They told me how Fulanis living around their forest areas frequently molested their young girls....and how these Fulani guys withdrew their aged people, young girls, women and children around that period Igboho was going around chasing them out of Yoruba forests.


They said they woke up one day and there were no single Fulani women or children that use to come to town to sell fura or kunu, and later they learnt they loaded them in trucks back to a location nobody knows.



Nigerians are thinking this Fulani thing is a childsplay, these guys have an agenda in Nigeria, and Buhari and other Fulanis in power/military are aware of their evil plans against Southern Nigerians.


After speaking with these Yoruba locals, how they defended Nnamdi Kanu, Igboho and co....and how they swore that Tinubu will never be President, I came to the conclusion that most of the monikers that criticize and attack Igbos here are mostly Northern guys and few naive Yorubas who are ignorant of the devices of these blood thirsty Northern guys.



Please dear Igbos, stop attacking Yorubas online, they are actually in support and solidarity with Igbos pls! Forget what the few lost Yoruba urchins online are saying, the majority of Yoruas are tired of Northerners, just that Yorubas don't like violent confrontation.....they seem to prefer political resolution and fight than physical war.....let's respect them for that.

Thank you. Do you think Buhari despite his military experience is being biased and being tribalistic?

Safyqueen:


Something is wrong and somethings are also right with this Gumi medical expedition.

There are rumour that this banditry are sponsored by the owners of the dislodged illegal gold miners which majority of them are retired army officials. Some says they are also elites who are never at any point in time like Buhari as a president. They are also category of elites deadly hit hardest by TSA. All these assertion fits Gumi.

However there are genuine Fulani herdsmen that are not bandits. They are also victim of banditry and animal rustling but the media had contributed in politicising the menace in such a way that not only Buhari but majority of the northerners now believe they need to protect or defend their own.

Buhari is just too weak to use government machinery to deal with this people until things get messy and usually too late then. He is too slow.

Adrian98:
I believe there are northerners and Muslims here reading this post and also on Nairaland.
I’ll love to get your opinions on how things are going with this gumi man and this whole bandit and herdsmen thing. Please speak freely with and open mind and do not attack any other tribe. Thank you I’ll be expecting

It is obvious that Sheikh Gumi is a Medical Doctor and former Army Captain and later retired and became Islamic scholar.
Islam is a very vast and complex religion, it is very difficult for Non-Muslims and Muslims with little knowledge of Islam and Islamic history to understand Gumi and his actions.
Gumi belongs to the Mutazilite school of thought, one of Islamic philosophy. Just like how we have people with Shi'a or Sunni philosophy but he is Sunni with Mutazilite principles.
Muʿtazilites believe that good and evil are not always determined by revealed scripture or interpretation of scripture, but they are rational categories that could be "established through unaided reason"; because knowledge is derived from reason; reason, alongside scripture, was the "final arbiter" in distinguishing right and wrong.
The school worked to resolve the theological "problem of evil": how to reconcile the justice of an all-powerful God with the reality of evil in the world talkless of human Govt like Nigerian Govt.
The test of life is specifically for adults in full possession of their mental faculties. Children may suffer, and are observed to suffer, given the nature of life but they are believed to be completely free from sin and liability. Divine justice is affirmed through the theory of compensation. All sufferers will be compensated. This includes Non-believers and, more importantly, children, who are destined to go to Paradise without any after life trial. No specific Islamic Nation that have this philosophy as very few scholars are today left with this ideology especially Euro-American Islamic scholars.
Going by the Islamic Philosophy of Mutazilites which is the ideology of Sheikh Gumi and the only Islamic scholar in Nigeria with this ideology, it can be seen that there is nothing to be surprised from Gumi's actions except from Non-Muslims who are not familiar with this Islamic school of thought. They are extremely moderate and believe all sins can be forgiven, no matter the gravity of the sin.
Sheikh Gumi is one of the scholars that are not liked by most Nigerian Muslims due to his controversial views on Islamic principles which are in most cases contrary to the Teachings of Hadith.

Thank you for this but you only talked about Gumi and not specifically about the bandits or herdsmen and how they are causing havoc. Once again thank you

ArewaNorth:

It is obvious that Sheikh Gumi is a Medical Doctor and former Army Captain and later retired and became Islamic scholar.
Islam is a very vast and complex religion, it is very difficult for Non-Muslims and Muslims with little knowledge of Islam and Islamic history to understand Gumi and his actions.
Gumi belongs to the Mutazilite school of thought, one of Islamic philosophy. Just like how we have people with Shi'a or Sunni philosophy but he is Sunni with Mutazilite principles.
Muʿtazilites believe that good and evil are not always determined by revealed scripture or interpretation of scripture, but they are rational categories that could be "established through unaided reason"; because knowledge is derived from reason; reason, alongside scripture, was the "final arbiter" in distinguishing right and wrong.
The school worked to resolve the theological "problem of evil": how to reconcile the justice of an all-powerful God with the reality of evil in the world talkless of human Govt like Nigerian Govt.
The test of life is specifically for adults in full possession of their mental faculties. Children may suffer, and are observed to suffer, given the nature of life but they are believed to be completely free from sin and liability. Divine justice is affirmed through the theory of compensation. All sufferers will be compensated. This includes Non-believers and, more importantly, children, who are destined to go to Paradise without any after life trial. No specific Islamic Nation that have this philosophy as very few scholars are today left with this ideology especially Euro-American Islamic scholars.
Going by the Islamic Philosophy of Mutazilites which is the ideology of Sheikh Gumi and the only Islamic scholar in Nigeria with this ideology, it can be seen that there is nothing to be surprised from Gumi's actions except from Non-Muslims who are not familiar with this Islamic school of thought. They are extremely moderate and believe all sins can be forgiven, no matter the gravity of the sin.
Sheikh Gumi is one of the scholars that are not liked by most Nigerian Muslims due to his controversial views on Islamic principles which are in most cases contrary to the Teachings of Hadith.

Maj196:
Minister for Bandits Affairs is really doing his job well as directed by Buhari.

That is the plan

Medical team to "Bandits"......
How long will this hypocrisy go on?

Where did IPOB attack here ?

FG should investigate this man thoroughly there's something fishy about him.

May Allah reveal the sponsors of Bokoharam/Bandits as for Igbos their sponsors met with Buhari last week

The headline is misleading and the content is fictitious. Why deceptively attach IPOD to a medical outreach mission? Those of you fueling ethnic and tribal embers; I hope you will be bold enough not to crisps in the face of reality.

Gumi is using FG's jihad grant well
Elite foolanis are financial supporters while the herders are the fighters

nairaman66:
Gumi has been empowered by the government! Just keep quiet, and listen to Gumi rhetorics over again!

*Herdsmen should be compensated
*Herdsmen should be allowed to move freely
*Engaging herdsmen with the military will be counter productive
*Builds hospital and school for them


If you think one Nigeria lives, then you are dead!

You got the message

pickatyouu:
Gumi is a terrorist.
But bubu is blind to this one

because bubu na him partner in crime

.

Guyman02:


The story said Medical outreach to Kogi due to displacement of herdsmen from South East and South West but the heading on front page says IPOB attack just to vilify Igbo people and IPOB and generate traffic to make money.

It's like 70% of political stories on Nairaland front page to generate traffic has to do with IPOB, Igbos, South East, meth, IPOB, Igbos, South East, meth, IPOB, Igbos, South East meth

I thought I was the only one that noticed that.

ImoleNaija:


The report is about the displaced herdsmen from the SE.

So you didn't see SW too?

ikorodureporta:


https://www.vanguardngr.com/2021/11/sheikh-gumi-takes-medical-services-to-herdsmen-in-kogi-forests-2/

please nairalander's i want 2 ask u question is nigeria a country?

Adrian98:
Thank you for this but you only talked about Gumi and not specifically about the bandits or herdsmen and how they are causing havoc. Once again thank you

FARMERS-HERDERS CLASH
For many years there has always been a conflict between farmers and herders. The main cause of the problem are these; some traditional rulers sell large portion of grazing lands (RUGA) to farmers which consequently lead to conflicts because the supposed land to have their cows graze is sold and turned farm will block their route and herders will graze their cows in it, some herders believe grazing on people's land can bring prosperity on their cows (superstition).
BANDITRY
Fulani were allegedly used as a tool to get easy money by a combined team of traditional rulers, Police, Judges and some business men. When herder commit offence the police and court charge him too much money, he has to sell cows and pay. Vigilant group set up to tackle banditry later became used to extra judicially kill the Fulani bandits in an attempt to stop the bribery and corruption in the supposed to be justice system. However, this killing made the Fulani bandits to slowly become what they are today.
The police sometimes will take all the cows to police station and sell them if they commit a big crime. Their fellow Fulani bandits started stealing their cows (hundred of cows) untill they rendered them cowless to the extent that if you don't have one of your child among the bandits they'll steal all cows from your family. The rich local business men enjoy stolen cows at cheaper prices. If the bandits are caught they get a soft landing from judges in connivance with Police and release them (justice was a subject of cash exchange at the highest bids in Zamfara, Sokoto, Katsina).
Before we know, a syndicate of bandits were organised which is a product of banditry, neglect and injustice. After losing their cows to banditry and injustice they join the syndicate of banditry to survive because herders only know how to herd cows and nothing more.
Note: for a herder, it is better to lose a relative to death than to lose a cow, cow is the most precious thing for them, more important than God to the most illiterates among them.
EXTENSION OF CONFLICT TO SOUTHERN NIGERIA AND NORTH-CENTRAL STATES
In a typical transhuman practice, Fulani cattle breeders usually drive their herds from their original home lands in the arid Sahel region of Northern Nigeria during the dry season into guinea savannah and the rainforests of central and southern Nigeria in search of greener pasture. Once the raining season sets in, nomadic herdsmen will commence a homeward journey from the south through the central to the northernmost part of the country. And year after year, the seasonal cycle of movement of cattle from north to south and back to the north has become the defining feature of the Fulani cultural occupation of nomadic pastoralism in Nigeria.
However, this practice is not without its problems. In a country of indigenous tribesmen and not a nation of citizens such as Nigeria, where access to land is mostly by privilege of birth and not always an economic right, the indigenous peoples of central and southern Nigeria are predominantly farmers, who require their lands for crop cultivation. The cultural occupation of farming of these indigenous communities usually gets disrupted by the transhumance of the Fulani herdsmen, whose cows often stray into farmlands and eat up crops, even before they are harvested. With a weak policing system and slow dispensation of justice by constituted authorities, aggrieved parties often take the laws in their hands, thereby ensuing in farmers/herders clashes.
At the core of this ethnic nationalism is the carefully contrived mindset that there is such a thing as a legally gazetted grazing reserves and routes for herdsmen, which has now been encroached upon by sedentary communities along the lines of the traditional routes, running from the north to the south. Convinced about the existence of these gazetted routes and reserves across Nigeria, many Fulani herdsmen have now come to believe themselves to be the victims and farmers the offenders in the encroachment upon their traditional grazing routes. Motivated by this belief, the Fulani herdsman now considers the invasion of farmlands with their cows and destruction of crops as only a legitimate process for the recovery of their grazing routes. And when farming communities put up resistance to what they consider as trespass, an armada of Fulani militia men were mobilised into Nigeria from the neighbouring countries of the Sahel to launch a “cow war” in Nigeria

Well once again thank you. You mentioned blocking of routes and more. Don’t you think that we have gotten to the stage and time where cows and herders don’t just roam the streets or wherever they feel like but a secluded space they can call their own? This way no one can come and disrupt their herding. This way their cows won’t be stolen easily. Also I’ll like to hear from you since we are already engaged in this topic. How can these acts be stopped or reduced

ArewaNorth:


FARMERS-HERDERS CLASH
For many years there has always been a conflict between farmers and herders. The main cause of the problem are these; some traditional rulers sell large portion of grazing lands (RUGA) to farmers which consequently lead to conflicts because the supposed land to have their cows graze is sold and turned farm will block their route and herders will graze their cows in it, some herders believe grazing on people's land can bring prosperity on their cows (superstition).
BANDITRY
Fulani were allegedly used as a tool to get easy money by a combined team of traditional rulers, Police, Judges and some business men. When herder commit offence the police and court charge him too much money, he has to sell cows and pay. Vigilant group set up to tackle banditry later became used to extra judicially kill the Fulani bandits in an attempt to stop the bribery and corruption in the supposed to be justice system. However, this killing made the Fulani bandits to slowly become what they are today.
The police sometimes will take all the cows to police station and sell them if they commit a big crime. Their fellow Fulani bandits started stealing their cows (hundred of cows) untill they rendered them cowless to the extent that if you don't have one of your child among the bandits they'll steal all cows from your family. The rich local business men enjoy stolen cows at cheaper prices. If the bandits are caught they get a soft landing from judges in connivance with Police and release them (justice was a subject of cash exchange at the highest bids in Zamfara, Sokoto, Katsina).
Before we know, a syndicate of bandits were organised which is a product of banditry, neglect and injustice. After losing their cows to banditry and injustice they join the syndicate of banditry to survive because herders only know how to herd cows and nothing more.
Note: for a herder, it is better to lose a relative to death than to lose a cow, cow is the most precious thing for them, more important than God to the most illiterates among them.
EXTENSION OF CONFLICT TO SOUTHERN NIGERIA AND NORTH-CENTRAL STATES
In a typical transhuman practice, Fulani cattle breeders usually drive their herds from their original home lands in the arid Sahel region of Northern Nigeria during the dry season into guinea savannah and the rainforests of central and southern Nigeria in search of greener pasture. Once the raining season sets in, nomadic herdsmen will commence a homeward journey from the south through the central to the northernmost part of the country. And year after year, the seasonal cycle of movement of cattle from north to south and back to the north has become the defining feature of the Fulani cultural occupation of nomadic pastoralism in Nigeria.
However, this practice is not without its problems. In a country of indigenous tribesmen and not a nation of citizens such as Nigeria, where access to land is mostly by privilege of birth and not always an economic right, the indigenous peoples of central and southern Nigeria are predominantly farmers, who require their lands for crop cultivation. The cultural occupation of farming of these indigenous communities usually gets disrupted by the transhumance of the Fulani herdsmen, whose cows often stray into farmlands and eat up crops, even before they are harvested. With a weak policing system and slow dispensation of justice by constituted authorities, aggrieved parties often take the laws in their hands, thereby ensuing in farmers/herders clashes.
At the core of this ethnic nationalism is the carefully contrived mindset that there is such a thing as a legally gazetted grazing reserves and routes for herdsmen, which has now been encroached upon by sedentary communities along the lines of the traditional routes, running from the north to the south. Convinced about the existence of these gazetted routes and reserves across Nigeria, many Fulani herdsmen have now come to believe themselves to be the victims and farmers the offenders in the encroachment upon their traditional grazing routes. Motivated by this belief, the Fulani herdsman now considers the invasion of farmlands with their cows and destruction of crops as only a legitimate process for the recovery of their grazing routes. And when farming communities put up resistance to what they consider as trespass, an armada of Fulani militia men were mobilised into Nigeria from the neighbouring countries of the Sahel to launch a “cow war” in Nigeria

Sheikh of doom. I don't how kogi has become home to Fulani. People like him makes people to be thinking that every Muslim is terrorist.

Adrian98:
Well once again thank you. You mentioned blocking of routes and more. Don’t you think that we have gotten to the stage and time where cows and herders don’t just roam the streets or wherever they feel like but a secluded space they can call their own? This way no one can come and disrupt their herding. This way their cows won’t be stolen easily. Also I’ll like to hear from you since we are already engaged in this topic. How can these acts be stopped or reduced

Govts at all level in Nigeria are not performing their rightful duties. The grazing routes are made by colonial masters, therefore our Legislators have the responsibility to make mutually beneficial laws especially in areas where there are conflicts.
Herders are Nigerians, and states with significant number of herders should have made laws to regulate their business, the laws must meet the contemporary standards of cattles breeding that will make the business modern and highly profitable. The neglect is too much not only on this single case but in all the daily living of Nigerians.
Our leaders are so lazy that they can't even make laws that can meet the culture, tradition and complexity of Nigerians but went to some extent to borrow most of their Govt style and policies from whites. How do u expect such people to tackle your problems except by force?
The solution to the problem is for both state and Federal Legislators to make laws which are unequivocally not bias, fair, beneficial to all and free from ethno-religious hitches.
Govt should use both kinetic and non-kinetic approach to deal with the rising issues of banditry and kidnapping which are mostly in the circle of Fulani.
Nigerians should eschew stereotyping and ethnic profiling of Fulani because of their political differences with PMB because the Fulani causing these havoc are very few comapred to Fulani population. Both innocent and bad herders living in the bush can't account for 2% of Fulani population in Nigeria.

All northern Muslim are terrorist

What do you mean by
“How do you expect suck people to tackle your problem except by force”?
Also I don’t think everything is about the government. As a people we should be able to advance and make life better for ourselves. Also I think bringing PMB into this is out of context and will only take us back to being biased, political and tribalistic. Once again thank you. It has been great so far

ArewaNorth:


Govts at all level in Nigeria are not performing their rightful duties. The grazing routes are made by colonial masters, therefore our Legislators have the responsibility to make mutually beneficial laws especially in areas where there are conflicts.
Herders are Nigerians, and states with significant number of herders should have made laws to regulate their business, the laws must meet the contemporary standards of cattles breeding that will make the business modern and highly profitable. The neglect is too much not only on this single case but in all the daily living of Nigerians.
Our leaders are so lazy that they can't even make laws that can meet the culture, tradition and complexity of Nigerians but went to some extent to borrow most of their Govt style and policies from whites. How do u expect such people to tackle your problems except by force?
The solution to the problem is for both state and Federal Legislators to make laws which are unequivocally not bias, fair, beneficial to all and free from ethno-religious hitches.
Govt should use both kinetic and non-kinetic approach to deal with the rising issues of banditry and kidnapping which are mostly in the circle of Fulani.
Nigerians should eschew stereotyping and ethnic profiling of Fulani because of their political differences with PMB because the Fulani causing these havoc are very few comapred to Fulani population. Both innocent and bad herders living in the bush can't account for 2% of Fulani population in Nigeria.

Guyman02:


The story said Medical outreach to Kogi due to displacement of herdsmen from South East and South West but the heading on front page says IPOB attack just to vilify Igbo people and IPOB and generate traffic to make money.

It's like 70% of political stories on Nairaland front page to generate traffic has to do with IPOB, Igbos, South East, meth, IPOB, Igbos, South East, meth, IPOB, Igbos, South East meth

Well that's what u get when u make yourself the center of everything.