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Tocano Jets Or Bayraktar Drones? by owagbeba: 9:15pm On Dec 24, 2021
Just thinking aloud here. Nigeria spent $500 Million acquiring 6 super tocano jets from the US to combat the insurgency in the Northeast.

$500 million can buy 100 Bayraktar TB2 combat drones at a price of $5 million each.

Isn’t It cost effective for us? I mean these drones have a 24hour endurance flight with a good range. We could saturate the skies over Sambisa and maintain a siege on these jihadist.

What do you think guys?

Re: Tocano Jets Or Bayraktar Drones? by richeeyo(m): 9:23pm On Dec 24, 2021
How can you compare two nonsense
What we really need is something like the A10 warthog
Heavy armored plane for ground attack
With a high velocity gatling gun
Re: Tocano Jets Or Bayraktar Drones? by owagbeba: 10:38pm On Dec 24, 2021
richeeyo:
How can you compare two nonsense
What we really need is something like the A10 warthog
Heavy armored plane for ground attack
With a high velocity gatling gun

What’s the stats on A10?
How long can they stay up on full load?


PS: USA have not sold this A10 aircraft to any country?
Re: Tocano Jets Or Bayraktar Drones? by owagbeba: 10:44pm On Dec 24, 2021
richeeyo:
How can you compare two nonsense
What we really need is something like the A10 warthog
Heavy armored plane for ground attack
With a high velocity gatling gun

The Bayraktar has proven it’s performance in many battles including the battle of Idlib, Libyan’s battle for Tripoli and the recent Nagorna war with Azerbaijan.

Considering that we need to maintain 24hours surveillance of operational theater and forward operation support, don’t you think the combat drones are better suited than the tocano?

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Re: Tocano Jets Or Bayraktar Drones? by richeeyo(m): 1:52am On Dec 25, 2021
owagbeba:


The Bayraktar has proven it’s performance in many battles including the battle of Idlib, Libyan’s battle for Tripoli and the recent Nagorna war with Azerbaijan.

Considering that we need to maintain 24hours surveillance of operational theater and forward operation support, don’t you think the combat drones are better suited than the tocano?
You have a point
That Tocano is just a waste of resources
forward operation support,
Is something missing in our formation, that's why we mounting casualties and surprise attacks without a single trace
Re: Tocano Jets Or Bayraktar Drones? by persius555(m): 6:55am On Dec 25, 2021
Bayraktar drones will come in handy when boko haram decide to invade and carry out attacks in their thousands and in heavy duty military tanks and trucks.
For now , they are spread out thin in multiple fronts and carry out their attacks in barely a dozen gun trucks at a time.
Fighting such enemy with drones will require a lot of investment in manpower and munition.
The bayraktar drones came into prominence in all out wars between Armenia-Azerbaijan war and recently Ethiopia-Tigray.
These are battle fronts where the enemies deploy heavy war machinery and thousands of men.
Boko haram will not engage in such manner. The last time they did, their body count was fatal.

This enemy is fluid

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Re: Tocano Jets Or Bayraktar Drones? by Scholes007(m): 10:09am On Dec 25, 2021
richeeyo:
How can you compare two nonsense
What we really need is something like the A10 warthog
Heavy armored plane for ground attack
With a high velocity gatling gun
You are right. A10 warthog has proven beyond any reasonable doubt to be an effective attack plane. It has a fantastic precision and it's support capability is next to nothing ... I just hope NAF can acquire that against Boko Haram and also not abuse it.

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Re: Tocano Jets Or Bayraktar Drones? by mysticwarrior(m): 12:55pm On Dec 25, 2021
owagbeba:


The Bayraktar has proven it’s performance in many battles including the battle of Idlib, Libyan’s battle for Tripoli and the recent Nagorna war with Azerbaijan.

Considering that we need to maintain 24hours surveillance of operational theater and forward operation support, don’t you think the combat drones are better suited than the tocano?
Turkish drones are far better than those supertucano jets, I still wonder why Nigeria has not yet acquire a few to end boko haram.
Re: Tocano Jets Or Bayraktar Drones? by Scholes007(m): 1:31pm On Dec 25, 2021
mysticwarrior:
Turkish drones are far better than those supertucano jets, I still wonder why Nigeria has not yet acquire a few to end boko haram.
What are your proof that it's better??
Nigeria's security can't be based on sentiments.
Re: Tocano Jets Or Bayraktar Drones? by mysticwarrior(m): 3:26pm On Dec 25, 2021
Scholes007:
What are your proof that it's better??
Nigeria's security can't be based on sentiments.
its more effective in terms of precision and accuracy, it's cheaper to maintain and run, it can fly up to 27 hours at a speed of 250 km/h and can be very hard to detect by radar systems, and makes it more difficult to be targeted by anti aircraft guns.
Re: Tocano Jets Or Bayraktar Drones? by olugabbie(m): 7:05am On Dec 26, 2021
persius555:
Bayraktar drones will come in handy when boko haram decide to invade and carry out attacks in their thousands and in heavy duty military tanks and trucks.
For now , they are spread out thin in multiple fronts and carry out their attacks in barely a dozen gun trucks at a time.
Fighting such enemy with drones will require a lot of investment in manpower and munition.
The bayraktar drones came into prominence in all out wars between Armenia-Azerbaijan war and recently Ethiopia-Tigray.
These are battle fronts where the enemies deploy heavy war machinery and thousands of men.
Boko haram will not engage in such manner. The last time they did, their body count was fatal.

This enemy is fluid

Perfect analysis

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Re: Tocano Jets Or Bayraktar Drones? by olugabbie(m): 7:18am On Dec 26, 2021
mysticwarrior:
Turkish drones are far better than those supertucano jets, I still wonder why Nigeria has not yet acquire a few to end boko haram.


The drone is designed majorly to take out enemy heavy weaponry like defence systems, artillery systems, missile launchers e.t.c. Boko haram don't have these weapons.

Again, it range (150km) is also a disadvantage. While Tucano can do 1300km. Thr Tucano also carry far more amunitions. In the war against Boko Haram, the Tucano is a perfect machine.

The US specifically designed the Tucano for Guerrilla warfare.

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Re: Tocano Jets Or Bayraktar Drones? by owagbeba: 8:27am On Jan 01, 2022
olugabbie:



The drone is designed majorly to take out enemy heavy weaponry like defence systems, artillery systems, missile launchers e.t.c. Boko haram don't have these weapons.

Again, it range (150km) is also a disadvantage. While Tucano can do 1300km. Thr Tucano also carry far more amunitions. In the war against Boko Haram, the Tucano is a perfect machine.

The US specifically designed the Tucano for Guerrilla warfare.

150km is quite a distance. We could swarm the theater with these drones as support to ground troops, attack enemies hardened Defence lines, cut of their resupply lines, knock out their 4x4 trucks with mounted AAG, and maintain 24/7 aerial coverage of “active” theaters.

The problem with our troops is that they don’t know what’s ahead of them. They don’t get active intel on enemy locations and Defence structures . And a lot of times our FOB are just sitting ducks waiting to be run over by this jihadist arriving in bikes and 4x4.

We have 6 tocano jets.. and several active theaters of engagement with the jihadists. Don’t you think we could have gotten more drones with the same value and spread the drones across these theaters of engagement?
Re: Tocano Jets Or Bayraktar Drones? by cutievik: 11:10am On Jan 01, 2022
I love the discussion here, why not ask these questions where they are informed minds on Military and Defense matters to provide answers.

@Owagbeba, @Oluggabie and Persiuss555, have you heard of the Battlefield discussion group on Telegram? It's a Nigeria and African defense discussion, pictures and videos thread, you will see troops first hand in action.

You can see previous military strikes too.
https://t. me/battlefieldgroup01

Just remove the space between the 'dot' and the 'me' and search on google, then join.

Or search Battlefieldgroup01 on google straight up and join.

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Re: Tocano Jets Or Bayraktar Drones? by Biodun556(m): 6:24am On Jan 03, 2022
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