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Re: President Buhari: State Police Is Not An Option by heniford2: 9:42am On Jan 05, 2022
MT:


Nigerians always rush to cite example of US when it is convenient but refuse to act like the Americans as citizens. It is obvious Governors are more evil than the President. They have technically killed the Local Govt despite all interventions from different quarters, sitting on their monies and milking the LG dry.

What has Governors done with the Monthly state security allocation, squander it. Having state police will create 36 different monsters in all the states. I align with the President, I am totally against it.
the federal government should pass a bill making local government recognize in state government each state should come up with is own budget attached to it with local government own with that funds are transferred to states are local government too for proper use the federal government can do it forget this state government noisemaking issue if your a governor will u want a local government to chop above u undecided that's the problem
Re: President Buhari: State Police Is Not An Option by jrusky(m): 9:44am On Jan 05, 2022
Never an option and must never happen.

State police where people like Hell Rufall, Hopeless Uzo, Umahi are and with the way Tinubu hold Lagosian on ransome State police with Bororo Tyson Fury woman beater senator in porn shop


Error serious error.


Pls next topic................

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Re: President Buhari: State Police Is Not An Option by MT: 9:44am On Jan 05, 2022
DubaiLandLord:
What's the way out of this LG autonomy, GMB has really tried to let them have autonomy.

Till the Monsters of Governors we have in Nigeria let go of the 3rd tier of Government. It is a big shame to the Governors really. Killing another legal tier of Government. Sadly, it is the presidency that people talk about leaving out the selfish Governors, who are directly in charge of Monthly state allocation given to each state, and the puppet state house of assemblies.

Before you criticise the Presidency, have you asked your State Governors how they spend the Monthly State Allocation given to your states. Is your State House Assemblies performing the roles of Checks and Balances??

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Re: President Buhari: State Police Is Not An Option by mabea: 9:46am On Jan 05, 2022
People will say that they agree with Buhari without thinking it through. What's the difference between State Police and resource control that the South have been crying for. If Buhari doesn't support restructuring ,I don't see him support State Police for the same reason.

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Re: President Buhari: State Police Is Not An Option by Nicepoker(m): 9:46am On Jan 05, 2022
Sebastine1994:
I hate buhari but hiß talk make sense 100%>

When you dash governor's power without accountability, they will do and undo. State police works in America because the citizens are politically active.

State police is not the answer to our problem, but citizens speaking with one voice and we would get whatever we want in life. Trust me.

If all boys decide to speak with one voice we would end government manipulation.
challenges in the north is different from what is in the south. And you are talking about speaking with one voice.
Re: President Buhari: State Police Is Not An Option by MT: 9:47am On Jan 05, 2022
heniford2:
the federal government should pass a bill making local government recognize in state government each state should come up with is own budget attached to it with local government own with that funds are transferred to states are local government too for proper use the federal government can do it forget this state government noisemaking issue if your a governor will u want a local government to chop above u undecided that's the problem

The FG has done its bit. It has been sent to the State House of Assemblies of each state to domesticate. Unfortunately, they are puppets in the hands of the Governors and that is where everything dies. The State House of Assemblies refuse to debate it and domesticate. The Governors will not let them do it and there is nothing the presidency can do about it,

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Re: President Buhari: State Police Is Not An Option by Mckeni007: 9:48am On Jan 05, 2022
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even though I don't too like some of the policies of the presidency, Nigeria is not matured enough to call for a state police, have you noticed how state judiciaries is runned by state governors? Imagine a loosing governor in total control of the police against his opponent in an election.

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Re: President Buhari: State Police Is Not An Option by MT: 9:49am On Jan 05, 2022
mabea:
People will say that they agree with Buhari without thinking it through. What's the difference between State Police and resource control that the South have been crying for. If Buhari doesn't support restructuring the same reason,I don't see him support State Police

Restructuring is such a loose word. You need to be specifics when you are talking about restructuring. Different people and politicians have different selfish definitions for their own restructuring. When you mention restructuring, can you please be more specific what you want to really restructure because lot of people just mention the words without even understanding it.

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Re: President Buhari: State Police Is Not An Option by federal9: 9:50am On Jan 05, 2022
MT:


Nigerians always rush to cite example of US when it is convenient but refuse to act like the Americans as citizens. It is obvious Governors are more evil than the President. They have technically killed the Local Govt despite all interventions from different quarters, sitting on their monies and milking the LG dry.

What has Governors done with the Monthly state security allocation, squander it. Having state police will create 36 different monsters in all the states. I align with the President, I am totally against it.

I agree with you. Some people can not see the truth because of their hatred for Buhari.

State police will be dangerous. They are going to act supreme and threaten innocent souls. We have not talked about hatred, bully, and much more stuff. People should be careful about state police.

Imagine having a case with a Yoruba man in Ogun as an Igbo man, and the state police is a
Yoruba man. You are done for good. The same applies to other tribes.

More innocent would suffer if that was actualized.

Nairalanders, keep your hatred aside and see the flaws in the state police.

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Re: President Buhari: State Police Is Not An Option by PrudencyFeats: 9:50am On Jan 05, 2022
Damidave1124:

Sadly, the federal is guilty of this act too

You know one thing and the truth... The north never want to leave controling the security architecture of this country because tat3is what they hope to rely/fall back on when they want to get their ways around.

Even if they relinquish political power to the south, the have the guns and amunition as the judiciary in also incapacitated at the sounds of guns with money also in the bag.

Seriously, without the fear of dying, Nigerians would have revolted against bad governance and things would have changed for better.

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Re: President Buhari: State Police Is Not An Option by Highways: 9:53am On Jan 05, 2022
Is Hisbah not a state police?

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Re: President Buhari: State Police Is Not An Option by crossbreedwears(m): 9:54am On Jan 05, 2022
What do you know?!! Have thought Of the consequences if state police is created? You people talk without thinking about thr aftermath
Follygunners:
Foolish Old hag knows nothing about anything! undecided
Re: President Buhari: State Police Is Not An Option by DelTel(m): 9:55am On Jan 05, 2022
DubaiLandLord:
What's the way out of this LG autonomy, GMB has really tried to let them have autonomy.

The People enjoy the status quo

A Bill was sent to NASS by the executive but NASS rejected it allegedly under the influence of the governors

Instructive to note that no eminent personalities, civil society, religious leaders, labour union, NGO, opinion leaders name it, even the LGA chairs themselves have spoken in support of LGA autonomy

No protest or picketing of NASS by anyone

Even opposition parties, IPAC are silent over it

The People love their corruption

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Re: President Buhari: State Police Is Not An Option by crossbreedwears(m): 9:56am On Jan 05, 2022
Same Amotekun that were in thr news for 3 different reasons about how they maltreat an innocent person
Skybridge33:
Northerners are afraid of state police because they will be targeted for their crimes. Even so amotekun is already working and some in ondo carry ak's and shotguns
Re: President Buhari: State Police Is Not An Option by sangresan(m): 9:57am On Jan 05, 2022
jrusky:
Never an option and must never happen.

State police where people like Hell Rufall, Hopeless Uzo, Umahi are and with the way Tinubu hold Lagosian on ransome State police with Bororo Tyson Fury woman beater senator in porn shop


Error serious error.

Pls next topic................

You're talking about the symptoms of a deep-lying disease which is our warped political system. America has had more power-drunk governors than Nigeria. Most of what we see in Nigeria is child's play compared to what has happened in the American democracy.

But the fact remains that community or state police is a fundamental criteria of a federation. Without it, a federation can never be a federation.

Forget about the noise that governors will abuse it. Those things can be corrected by legislations.
Re: President Buhari: State Police Is Not An Option by Nobody: 9:57am On Jan 05, 2022
babaolofin:


You claimed the State Police in the US during the Civil rights era of 1960 was heavily racist, where was the record? Racism has nothing to do with State Police. Federal Police officer can also practise racism.

State Police is very strong in the US. The US Constitution can never stop State Police. Each State in US have Supreme Court. You are bringing demerit of a State Police still being used in US to Nigeria when the US have no such complaint. Nigeria operates a nomadic federalism and not true Federalism.

I just stated my objections

Stating my objections does not mean you cannot have your state police.
Re: President Buhari: State Police Is Not An Option by ivolt: 9:58am On Jan 05, 2022
Damidave1124:
I'm tempted to bash Buhari, but haven gone through the write up, I must say he raised some salient points.

The governors, if given the opportunity will abuse it, they'll use it to which hunt their opponents till the subdue them.

Again, the north is scared of state police, because they'll lose their grip on Nigeria at large. Each state controlling the police will not favour the born to rule people
Choose a side please.
You trust Buhari with federal police and at the same time accusing
the north of being scared.
You are obviously the scared party.
Re: President Buhari: State Police Is Not An Option by jidxin(m): 9:59am On Jan 05, 2022
backbencher:
I don't agree with Bubu, but state police has 3 problems for me

1. Funding. Most states don't earn enough money to fund normal stuff, talkless state police

2. And let's be honest, governors will use the state police to deal with their opponents.

3. And let's not talk about what would happen in cases of tribal and religious crisis.


The USA that had state police, during the civil rights era of the 1960s, there were times where the federal government had to intervene because the state police was heavily heavily racist ( in some instances indistinguishable from groups like the KKK)

You are right bro... But we can't have our cake and eat it... We have to weight the advantages against the disadvantages.... Kú Klux klan
Re: President Buhari: State Police Is Not An Option by JohnBullMySon: 9:59am On Jan 05, 2022
backbencher:
I don't agree with Bubu, but state police has 3 problems for me

1. Funding. Most states don't earn enough money to fund normal stuff, talkless state police

2. And let's be honest, governors will use the state police to deal with their opponents.

3. And let's not talk about what would happen in cases of tribal and religious crisis.


The USA that had state police, during the civil rights era of the 1960s, there were times where the federal government had to intervene because the state police was heavily heavily racist ( in some instances indistinguishable from groups like the KKK)
My exact three concerns. Regional police will be the worst as regards to number 3

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Re: President Buhari: State Police Is Not An Option by ivolt: 9:59am On Jan 05, 2022
Sebastine1994:
I hate buhari but hiß talk make sense 100%>

When you dash governor's power without accountability, they will do and undo. State police works in America because the citizens are politically active.

State police is not the answer to our problem, but citizens speaking with one voice and we would get whatever we want in life. Trust me.

If all boys decide to speak with one voice we would end government manipulation.
Why do you dash Buhari power without accountablilty?
Re: President Buhari: State Police Is Not An Option by wizelink(m): 10:02am On Jan 05, 2022
Is the Federal government not abusing it's powers in the use of police and other uniform institutions to hunt people who differ in FG's opinions?

The only problem I see in state policing is the issue of financing.
Re: President Buhari: State Police Is Not An Option by akigbemaru: 10:03am On Jan 05, 2022
vanbonattel:
So, killings and Ethnic cleansing under a lopsided police and army is the best?

Under the present circumstances, 95% of the police commissioners are fulani people. The IGP is a fulani man. Over 60% of the DPO and DCO are all fulani. And the fulani is just less than 4% of Nigeria population.

When the northerners start their killing spree in the south, they always have all the police and army protection they need because their brothers will protect and urge them on. This leads to immediate casualties and arrest of anyone that is not a northerner.

There can never be enforcement of anti grazing laws in the south because the police command structure is controlled by the same fulani that owns the cows.

There is much crime in the south because Adamus and Abduls that doesn't know anything about the terrain are in control of police formations and criminals will be running amok knowing that the Adamus knows motjing about the terrain they operate. They are just bribe collecting robots intent on checkpoint profits.

State police will help the locals who are the real stakeholders to police their domain in the way they want, nobody can do anyhow because we know his address. Police brutality will be reduced to the minimum because there will not be any Northern policeman who will shoot innocent people and get an automatic transfer back to Jigawa state where he continues him crimes.
Re: President Buhari: State Police Is Not An Option by Nobody: 10:03am On Jan 05, 2022
linearity:


These are all excuses, the center is afraid of losing it’s power. No one has power gave it up willingly.

It's just my opinion, natch.

1. In terms of finding, the FG gets her money from States and then allocate percentages back to them, since they will no longer be tasked with Policing reducing their tax on State will free up money.

Actually, 70% of all the money we use in this country depends on the revenue we get from oil. Tax to gdp ratio in this country is 6.4%. WOrld Bank has already blasted us for our low tax collection rate.

SO, any money coming for state police is going to come from limited oil money...or states do the unpopular method ofr asing income taxes from every taxable adult in the state at high rates...including hawkers, farmers, and herdsmen, and so forth.

THat's why I am not too enthusiastic about the funding problem

2. FG uses Police & FG agencies to oppress everyone and States everyday….case in point AGN is in Magodo Estate using FG police to intervene on land issues when the Constitution have fully vested the power over land to the State….they are even ignoring the Governor’s orders.

I don't deny that (though Magodo is a poor example...the police is merely helping the original landowners enforce a Supreme court ruling, which the state is trying to turn into a states right issue because they know they are wrong)

But let's be frank, state governors are going to opress via state police. (See what some governors are up to already)

. Thank God you mentioned a civilization that started it badly, but over the years they are still learning and tweaking it. You can’t be perfect in a vacuum, you have to start somewhere. None of us know anything about the internet when we started Primary School, but look at us today.

Okay, you've just excused bad government of bubu.

Plus, I am being realistic.

Yes, State Governors will abuse it just like the FG, you can’t be Governor forever, power must change hands and with each year, the fear of retribution will force them to moderate…..remember one certain former Governor in Edo State? He later became the National Chairman of one National Party, he was pompous and powerful, his thugs reign high every corner of Edo State…..do you hear about him again? I sometime think that he is on a self-exile in some foreign island - no reported sittings….that is power, it must change hand one day.

Even then, knowing Nigerians, Africans, and our history, a national police is a more neutral alternative, than state police.
Re: President Buhari: State Police Is Not An Option by sangresan(m): 10:03am On Jan 05, 2022
federal9:


I agree with you. Some people can not see the truth because of their hatred for Buhari.

State police will be dangerous. They are going to act supreme and threaten innocent souls. We have not talked about hatred, bully, and much more stuff. People should be careful about state police.

Imagine having a case with a Yoruba man in Ogun as an Igbo man, and the state police is a
Yoruba man. You are done for good. The same applies to other tribes.

More innocent would suffer if that was actualized.

Nairalanders, keep your hatred aside and see the flaws in the state police.

Your conclusion is wrong. Nigeria once had local police up till the period of the first military coup and there was nothing like this. Of course, no human system is perfect.
Re: President Buhari: State Police Is Not An Option by masseratti: 10:04am On Jan 05, 2022
heniford2:
In USA each state has its own state police then we have federal police who supervisor or is above the state, the local government issues is the state government should state is own budget and the local government should also do same,then funds are been transferred to local government for proper use, buhari is a lazy man a big one and has nothing upstairs
i swear, I don't know who told him having state police means scrapping the federal police, both will have its jurisdiction which will be different from each other, no how will the state government abuse its power when the federal police is still available.
Re: President Buhari: State Police Is Not An Option by chloride6: 10:04am On Jan 05, 2022
Comments coming after Tyrant Sanwo Olu went to di-grace himself yesterday.
Re: President Buhari: State Police Is Not An Option by heniford2: 10:04am On Jan 05, 2022
MT:


The FG has done its bit. It has been sent to the State House of Assemblies of each state to domesticate. Unfortunately, they are puppets in the hands of the Governors and that is where everything dies. The State House of Assemblies refuse to debate it and domesticate. The Governors will not let them do it and there is nothing the presidency can do about it,
the fed can recognize the local government make it a separate tie of government under the supervisor of state government but independently on is own is possible creating room for elective role as we have the president senators, governoship and local government election control by Inec doing so will make them visible active not 100% controled by governors but just 10% then watch how fast development will touch grassroot and the governor has no right to remove them but the traditional rules and indegious people of the locality if he abuse his power
Re: President Buhari: State Police Is Not An Option by Nobody: 10:05am On Jan 05, 2022
thinkmoney:

I don't like Buhari. But your comment is funny, because you said you don't agree with him only to mention what he actually pointed out in your point 2.
So what is it u don't agree with?
No bad person can be bad all the time. I agree with Buhari that state police will be abused and I agree with u that the states cannot find them

Well, I meant I don't agree with him most of the time, but on state police, he is making a lot of sense....

Yesh, I consider all past and present Nigerian leaders as being awful, but when they say or do the right thing, I agree with them
Re: President Buhari: State Police Is Not An Option by heniford2: 10:05am On Jan 05, 2022
masseratti:
i swear, I don't know who told him having state police means scrapping the federal police, both will have its jurisdiction which will be different from each other, no how will the state government abuse its power when the federal police is still available.
that's what you get when you have a zombie as a leader undecided
Re: President Buhari: State Police Is Not An Option by Abujason: 10:06am On Jan 05, 2022
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In sane countries, that won’t be the call of this dictator to make. The National Assembly is the arm of govt responsible for making laws, not the executive.

But then again, do we have a National Assembly (not this rubberstamp ooo)?

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Re: President Buhari: State Police Is Not An Option by akigbemaru: 10:06am On Jan 05, 2022
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Re: President Buhari: State Police Is Not An Option by omohayek: 10:07am On Jan 05, 2022
federal9:

Imagine having a case with a Yoruba man in Ogun as an Igbo man, and the state police is a
Yoruba man. You are done for good. The same applies to other tribes.

More innocent would suffer if that was actualized.
Under the current system, if you are a Yoruba or Igbo man in any state of the country, woe betide you if a bunch of Fulani nomads decide to take over your farm or even your entire village. How is that any better?

Those of you who defend the status quo are even blinder than the Buhari critics you berate. You pretend as if Buhari's NPF were anything but a totally corrupt bunch of uniformed thugs at his personal disposal for selfish, sectarian ends.

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