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Re: President Buhari: State Police Is Not An Option by mabea: 10:08am On Jan 05, 2022 |
MT:We all know that the constitution we are operating with was designed to favour a certain region in the country. People have agitated that we return to a regional form of government whereby the people will control their own resources and develop at their own pace. So that's the kind of restructuring I'm talking about. 1 Like |
Re: President Buhari: State Police Is Not An Option by ivolt: 10:08am On Jan 05, 2022 |
MT:Nonsense. How come your governor is not sitting on your private money in the bank?
Why are you even calling governors instead of facing the one in your state? Don't be a coward, face your governor. State police is coming and nothing can stop it. 4 Likes |
Re: President Buhari: State Police Is Not An Option by Nobody: 10:09am On Jan 05, 2022 |
sangresan: Well, even in the USA, that nice arrangement is also subject to abuse well well (not just during the civil rights era, politicians can abuse the thing , and so forth) plus, just as you argue that weakness of state police should not prevent us from having state police, weakness of national police cannot prevent us from having one. I prefer national police, even though I would want us to have a state police because Nigerians won't pay the tax for the police to function well, and also because , based on our experience in the mid 1960's, where regional police(and the already de-facto regionalised army) stood and did nothing while pogroms happened, and because Nigerians aren't pro-human rights whatsoever. |
Re: President Buhari: State Police Is Not An Option by akigbemaru: 10:09am On Jan 05, 2022 |
Wiifesnatcher: 1 Like |
Re: President Buhari: State Police Is Not An Option by MANNABBQGRILLS2: 10:09am On Jan 05, 2022 |
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Re: President Buhari: State Police Is Not An Option by thinkmoney(m): 10:10am On Jan 05, 2022 |
backbencher:Beautiful. Thanks That was the only thing I agreed on with Buhari since a long time |
Re: President Buhari: State Police Is Not An Option by akigbemaru: 10:12am On Jan 05, 2022 |
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Re: President Buhari: State Police Is Not An Option by Nobody: 10:12am On Jan 05, 2022 |
backbencher: You don't have to state your objections by bringing unverified and illogical demerit of the State Police still being practised in the US Federalism to the nomadic federalism being used in Nigeria. One or two people from the same group can be entertaining themselves online speaking in support and against a topic to support their master. The fact remains that nomadic federalism is not a true Federalism and Federal government is basically Northern Government control of Southern resources, properties and people. 4 Likes |
Re: President Buhari: State Police Is Not An Option by Nobody: 10:12am On Jan 05, 2022 |
dat9jaguy: Well, I didn't agree with GEJ In everything, except when he provided extra funding for Nollywood, and when he also did things like strengthen AMCON and the railways, and privatized NEPA finally. A broken clock, whatever the vintage, is right sometimes. Bhubu is still a bad leader for me, economy and security wise. |
Re: President Buhari: State Police Is Not An Option by Nten: 10:12am On Jan 05, 2022 |
I don't think Nigeria is ripe for state policing for now. With the way Hisbah board is currently carrying out their nefarious activities in their domicile state, the way some state governor would grant pardon to a criminal who perpetuated heinous crime in another state and goes to seek harbor in his state, with the way some governor's will be giving amnesty to terrorist who have killed, maimed and rape whilst calling them "repentants", with the way partisan politics is played in the system politicians would monopolize the state police to their advantage to oppress and suppress opposition... Mehn we are a developing nation, lets finish the process of getting it right first abeg |
Re: President Buhari: State Police Is Not An Option by Nobody: 10:13am On Jan 05, 2022 |
babaolofin: Well, excuse me if you don't like my opinion. It is still my opinion. Stop acting like it stops you from having yours. |
Re: President Buhari: State Police Is Not An Option by Ebelefrancis123: 10:13am On Jan 05, 2022 |
Kapinta wet no Sabi e work na swegbe...... |
Re: President Buhari: State Police Is Not An Option by JaroMan: 10:18am On Jan 05, 2022 |
Damidave1124:There is no salient point. There's always excuse for a failure who has ulterior motives. If you read between the lines, you will see where he gave example of two governors who visited him and complained of the herdsmen problem. You saw his response? That is what he is protecting: the herdsmen in the South. The organogram of the police will solve the problem that governor overbearing may pose. The constitution will be amended to address it, so that the police will know their boundaries. The thing that Buhari has failed to do is strengthen Nigeria institutions because he won't manipulate them if he does. So strong institutions can shoulder any reform. 7 Likes |
Re: President Buhari: State Police Is Not An Option by Nobody: 10:18am On Jan 05, 2022 |
Sebastine1994: Exactly. Nigeria, in most states, there is no active media and no active civil society group, and most Nigerians see democracy as a ritual of voting every 4 years, and going home. |
Re: President Buhari: State Police Is Not An Option by ivolt: 10:18am On Jan 05, 2022 |
sangresan:Good points. Some governors don't want state police because they don't want to be blamed for insecurity in their state. While some citizens are against state police because the status quo favors them. 2 Likes |
Re: President Buhari: State Police Is Not An Option by MarveworldG: 10:19am On Jan 05, 2022 |
[quote author=akigbemaru post=109096324][/quote] Good morning sir, you mentioned us |
Re: President Buhari: State Police Is Not An Option by ivolt: 10:20am On Jan 05, 2022 |
dat9jaguy:That is how they are trained to deceive people. He claimed he didn't agree in order to avoid suspicion. 1 Like |
Re: President Buhari: State Police Is Not An Option by Nobody: 10:22am On Jan 05, 2022 |
sangresan: And we all know what happened when the pogroms of 1966 came around...yes the local police sat down and did...nothing. Government saw and government learned. The current federal police we have is the result. |
Re: President Buhari: State Police Is Not An Option by ivolt: 10:22am On Jan 05, 2022 |
dlox147:Why is nobody calling for total disbandment of the federal police despite all the illegalities and atrocities they engaged in over the years? If we are to judge by problem alone, federal police should not exist. BTW, state police need no supervision safe from establishing them. 1 Like |
Re: President Buhari: State Police Is Not An Option by wizseller: 10:22am On Jan 05, 2022 |
That is why his dead brain cannot think How can we create state police, create direct funding for them in the constitution and insulate it from the abuse of governors? Is Buhari and his cabal not abusing federal police, army and DSS now Buhari brings no creativity to governance This is just a lame excuse with ulterior motives Misterdhee1: 3 Likes |
Re: President Buhari: State Police Is Not An Option by Blackdisciple(m): 10:24am On Jan 05, 2022 |
I disagree with you baba, state policing is what we need... |
Re: President Buhari: State Police Is Not An Option by mediainc: 10:25am On Jan 05, 2022 |
I don't think the states need permission from Mr President on that, the constitutional dictates on state's rights, obligations and previledges will prevail, it's a matter for the courts. It's about what our constitution says... Buhari has his own personal opinion, but this issue is not under his purview to decide. 2 Likes |
Re: President Buhari: State Police Is Not An Option by ugom123: 10:26am On Jan 05, 2022 |
backbencher: We can't continue like this bro. No country as big as Nigeria with multi ethnic dimension runs a unitary system. This will cause problem as always. We need to change the current system of allowing FG own more of the resources income and VAT to enable states run their affairs. States can go into business with one another. There are many resources here in every state that can be used by the state. We are just being lazy. Many of the resources we have can earn real money when sold or used for finished products. End the current ussless system that give states money they didn't work for. It can't work. again, police should go to state. Is FG not abusing police? What kind of mumu talk is he saying. FG is also abusing police and using it against critics. we are too scared in Nigeria to allow the mere executive to ride Nigeria like this? Who is buhari if all the governors demand for this? Governors should be given the power to be ral executive of their states and not this mere ceremonial positions that they have. How can govenors be traveling to Abuja go always go and beg president over issues dealing with his own state and his own people and if the governors is in the black book of the ruling executive, he will be denied of vital things. This is nonsense. What we need is regional or stage police and for the constitution to be carefully written to prevent anyone in that region or state of FG from having all the powers to manipulate it. The current system is bloody and Wil always cause lack of patriotism. No country grows without patriotism. See, we are so backward. Many countries in Africa already have constant and stable electricity, water and better major city plannings. We are still here with terrible electricity supply due to terrible system of govt that we run. 6 Likes |
Re: President Buhari: State Police Is Not An Option by Yadid(m): 10:26am On Jan 05, 2022 |
See people talking that the governors will abuse state police as if the FG is not presently abusing the Federal policing system. Will state policing serve the people better than what we currently have? Emphatic yes. Is it likely to be abused by the governors? Yes, but even the present system is being raped and abused rapaciously by the FG. The abuse argument holds no water for me. In case you don't know the evil of this present policing system, go and watch the Magodo video with Sanwoolu yesterday. You can have officers deployed to your area by one drunken man in Abuja without you or your governor not being able to do a thing about. Plus the present system makes it difficult to prosecute corrupt officers. How do they cover corrupt officers now? They transfer them to another state. Case closed. That will not be possible with state police in place. State police has its flaws, but it is what is needed now. Argue against it since the Fulani herdsman menace did not touch you and your family. 7 Likes 1 Share |
Re: President Buhari: State Police Is Not An Option by ivolt: 10:29am On Jan 05, 2022 |
DubaiLandLord:Buhari has done nothing meaningful actually. Since the constitution recognizes LG, then the problem is easy. Set up separate allocation accounts for LG. Make a law abolishing caretaker chairman and transfer of LG allocation to the state. Set up an anti-corruption agency to monitor LG fund usage within the LG. With this, the LG will be as free as the state governor. 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: President Buhari: State Police Is Not An Option by Tpharell: 10:32am On Jan 05, 2022 |
linearity:This is the basic truth! The center is afraid of loosing its power to state policing, as observed with other such proposals to strip the center (FG) of its powers. The northern hedgemony stands to lose more of its stranglehold on the country, hence the 'owners' of Nigeria would not allow that to be. Abuse of state police by governors is inherent, just as the FG itself has been using federal police and efcc to intimidate and subdue its perceived enemies. It is however, not tenable, as it would amount to not trying out an idea due to possibility of failure. 3 Likes |
Re: President Buhari: State Police Is Not An Option by Tpharell: 10:36am On Jan 05, 2022 |
ivolt:Thank you for this. Mr president highlighted the issues the LG have with governors even as he has clearly failed to do the needful to curb the governors excesses 1 Like |
Re: President Buhari: State Police Is Not An Option by Ibrahim3307(m): 10:39am On Jan 05, 2022 |
backbencher:I agree with you but what are the solutions? |
Re: President Buhari: State Police Is Not An Option by Nobody: 10:41am On Jan 05, 2022 |
ugom123: 1.Most African countries have bad power supply like Nigeria does. What they do is supply their urban areas at the expense of their rural areas, unlike Nigeria that tries to give power to everyone(see the map below...access to power) Plus Nigerians are not ready to pay for 24 hour power the same way we pay for 24 hour access to GSM service. And I'll leave it at that. 2.As for police force, Nigerians aren't democratically active enough to make it work (AS Pointed elsewhere) and then when only 30% of the taxable adults pay income tax, and oil prices are going down, and will go down in the near future, funding is going to be an issue. 3.And Nigeria is an autocratic and tribal society. State police in such a society would be a disaster. (That's why most African countries don't have state police either.).
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Re: President Buhari: State Police Is Not An Option by Nobody: 10:42am On Jan 05, 2022 |
Ibrahim3307: It starts with 1.Nigerians being willing to pay the taxes for good state police. 2.Nigerians being ready to pay the price for a working democratic system...including things like tolerance for all. |
Re: President Buhari: State Police Is Not An Option by monex(m): 10:43am On Jan 05, 2022 |
vanbonattel: i strongly doubt the bolded stat |
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