Ceremonial IGP

Nkan be ni nigeria yi

To be a buhari lickass you must talk rubbish, be a fool and be brainless

Idiko1:


Lawyer Muhammed Ndakudu Adam, you are one of the reasons Nigeria is termed basket of fools. Mallam Muhammadu Buhari is the CSO of Nigeria. No wonder Nigeria is the playground of the bandits.

You’re dumb and lack functional brain. You came here to insult him PRIMARILY because he’s a Northerner and no more. He gave an opinion based on the interpretation of a particular section of the constitution.

Is the best response to him to resort to insult? Can’t you counter argue by explaining your position while citing constitutional provisions or cases? Or is a lawyer to pander to illiterates like you in the face of obviously provision of the law?

If you want the law changed, good. But until that happens, the law is the law and you can’t blame anybody for explaining the law as it is. Or what would you have him do?

Some lawyers are the reason for Nigeria being backward in every area. Just imagine this statement of the Governor being a ceremonial CSO but the IGP has control over all States. Now, the question is, what is the position of the constitution on this matter? Did the constitution which should always be his guide in the profession say the Governor is a ceremonial CSO while the IGP has every right to cause chaos in any state? Or is he speaking from the terrible political view in Nigeria? Where the FG just want to be in charge of everything without showing true Federalism.


Why are the governors part of the Nigerian Police Council with the President being the Head?

Everyone just want to say something without speaking from constitution but speaking as politicians.

Saturn444:


The 1999 Constitution is not a justice blueprint, but a silly piece of paper that ought to have been trashed long ago. No country deserves such silly document as 1999 Constitution, not even a Banana republic.

Those who pride themselves with that constitution are mostly herdsmen, by virtue of their luxury of stupidity.

Loooool. You people are patently ignorant. Who was the Chairman of the constitutional committee that recommended the adoption of the 1999 constitution? Yes, the 1999 constitution was based on the 1979 constitution and guess who was also the chairman of the Constituent Assembly that recommended its passage?

Were these people Northerners? You can hate my people - the Fulani. And that is fine. But don’t be dumb to charge us for things that are patently your people’s faults

Kriss216:
Are they dragging superiority



IGP shouldn't be in Abuja and dictates what happens in a State governed by elected official. Police is not the only security outfit in the country.

Whoever abuses you go shit blood for 30 days non stop.

Kudos to your reasoning on this

Many things are technically wrong in how we structure this nation. As long as our security architecture is still the way it is, let's not fool ourselves, we won't get security right, irrespective of who is president, whether youth or old. This is one of the big reasons some like me clamour for rethink of our so called federal status which some refuses because the ill-fated state profits their pockets and suits their mischievous use of power.

Who else is superior ooo,list them make we dey know now .

Kzinne:
yes but doesn't mean the cso position is merely ceremonial. Do you know that the governor of a state holds regular weekly security meetings with all the heads of security agencies posted to that state? So in a way he has a form of contro6. But that control is checked

You’re arguing position of the law based on what you hear on newspapers! OMG, pathetic. Point out where it is stated in ANY law that the Governor shall be the CSO of a state and the law’s definition of CSO. Just point it out!

orisa37:



THE IGP IS A SECRETARY OF STATE FOR SECURITY AND IN THE SAME WAY AS THE CURRENT MINISTERS ARE SECRETARIES OF STATES TO THE PRESIDING FEDERAL GOVERNOR (MR PRESIDENT). THE GOVERNORS ARE THE FUNDAMENTAL PRINCIPAL MINISTERS OF THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.

Exactly, while the Supreme Court is a Minister of State for the National Assembly (which is Gbaja) and in turn commander of the Nigerian Immigration Authority that is secretary to Nigeria Customs

A mere appointee of the president is Superior to an elected governor?

An ELECTED governor?

You are mad.

In a federal system with states autonomy, the only agency superior to the governor is the supreme Court, not even the president.

A governor can take the president to the supreme Court if he feels aggreived.

kayuseful:


Lol
What could be more ceremonial than that?
You can't do anything but you are only allowed to hold meetings, chop rice and asun

You don't need to waste your time arguing with those secondary school students. Nairaland is now full of underage kids.

Babinski:


The 1999 Constitution Section 215(4) states that "Subject to the provisions of this Section, the Governor of a State or Commissioner of the Government of the State as he may authorise in that behalf, may give to the Commissioner of Police of that State such lawful directions with respect to the maintenance and securing of public safety and public order within the State as he may consider necessary, and the Commissioner of Police shall comply with those directions or cause them to be complied with."

In view of the above, a Commissioner of Police is bound to obey the directives of a Governor as long as it does not go beyond the limits of the Executive Powers of the Governor as specified in Section 5(3) subsection 2 of the Constitution. In this regard the CP is therefore required to get approval from the IGP who may or may not overrule the Governor because the IGP represents the President who is the Chief Security Officer of the entire country.

in lay man's term, the IGP is not superior to the Governor, the Governor does not report to the President, but the IGP is a representative of the President therefore the Governor cannot give an order to an appointee of the President, doesn't mean the Governor is not superior to the IGP. The President and the Governors are members of Police council of the Federation, the IGP is an appointee of that council.

Here is an example let's call the police council a board, the President is the Chairman, Ceo, Govs, are directors, you can't tell me the account of the company employed by the Ceo which is the chairman /President is superior to a Director... This lawyer needs to go back to school abeg... Although to me the Governor goofed but I saw the video, he corrected himself and he did the right thing by calling kudos to Sanwo Olu.

SportsHD:

Obasanjo really wanted to have control of the new federal republic to himself, hence the powers of the police to him and the IGP only.

That's why someone mentioned earlier that the constitution is bleeped right from the roots. That's why amotekun and ebubeagu was incorporated (state police).

Still on, some governor's have some cops and soldiers that are very much loyal to them. Like peter obi and his azukwu butcher, seyi makinde and his GOC ibadan buddy.

Same obasanjo is now clamoring for state police because Colombia that rejected state police like Nigeria in those days now have state police. Obj IBB Gowon etc are the major agents of setback for Nigeria

Kzinne:
yes but doesn't mean the cso position is merely ceremonial. Do you know that the governor of a state holds regular weekly security meetings with all the heads of security agencies posted to that state? So in a way he has a form of contro6. But that control is checked

sorry, that's not a control but a means of getting information.

SATANICALLY666:

This matter na Fmr Obasanjo go fit settle am cos na him draft nonsense constitution for this country

SportsHD:

Obasanjo really wanted to have control of the new federal republic to himself, hence the powers of the police to him and the IGP only.

That's why someone mentioned earlier that the constitution is bleeped right from the roots. That's why amotekun and ebubeagu was incorporated (state police).

Still on, some governor's have some cops and soldiers that are very much loyal to them. Like peter obi and his azukwu butcher, seyi makinde and his GOC ibadan buddy.

so, obj wrote the constitution? please seek for more knowledge.

Tingotoe:
There's no country in the world where the federal police isn't under the direct operational command of the head of government. The FBI in America answer to the president and not any local authority

and who told you FBI is a police?

Saturn444:


The 1999 Constitution is not a justice blueprint, but a silly piece of paper that ought to have been trashed long ago. No country deserves such silly document as 1999 Constitution, not even a Banana republic.

Those who pride themselves with that constitution are mostly herdsmen, by virtue of their luxury of stupidity.

The military did not write any constitution — apart from promulgating the enabling decrees.
On November 11, 1998, Abdulsalami inaugurated the Constitution Debate Co-ordinating Committee (CDCC) to “pilot the debate, co-ordinate and collate views and recommendations canvassed by individuals and groups and submit report not later than 31 December 1998”. It was not headed by a soldier but by Justice Niki Tobi, with Dr. Suleiman Kurmo as deputy chairman. There was no single military man on the committee. They went round the country to collect memoranda from the public through town hall meetings in Benin, Enugu, Jos, Port Harcourt, Kaduna, Kano, Ibadan, Lagos and Sokoto. They excluded military formations.

After all the frenetic debates — up and down, north and south, east and west — the Tobi committee submitted its report to the military government. Tobi said: “In the light of the memoranda and the oral presentation on the 1995 Draft Constitution, it is clear that Nigerians basically opt for the 1979 Constitution with relevant amendments. They want it, and they have copiously given their reasons for their choice in the different memoranda and oral presentations.
So they recommended to the Provisional Ruling Council the adoption of the 1979 Constitution with relevant amendments from the 1995 Draft Constitution.” Abdulsalami accepted the recommendation.
When the 1999 constitution was finally published, three of them sat down and placed it side by side with the 1979 constitution. They then did a clause-by-clause analysis. The trio were: Mr. Victor Ifijeh (the current MD of The Nation newspaper who was THISDAY editor then), Alhaji Yusuph Olaniyonu (SA to Senate President Bukola Saraki who was THISDAY politics editor at the time) and THISDAY features editor. They did a word-for-word reading and laughed themselves to stupor: this is pure plagiarism of the 1979 constitution!
There were only a few notable differences in the two documents, such as the 13% derivation for oil-producing states and the number of states in the federation. While the 1979 constitution spoke about 19 states, 1999 said 36 states, logically. They were only reflecting the realities on ground. FEDECO in the 1979 document changed to INEC in 1999 constitution therefore it can be concluded that the 1999 constitution is a replica of the 1979 constitution.
The biggest irony abt the contentious nature of our constitution is the vicious condemnation of the 1999 constitution by some prominent Nigerians who mostly took part in the previous constitution starting committees or got favour & protection by the system.


Those who believed that the constitution was imposed or dictated by military are just insulting the wisdom and character of their forefathers for accepting what is imposed on them by chairing the committee and drafting what they reject!

Kriss216:
Are they dragging superiority



IGP shouldn't be in Abuja and dictates what happens in a State governed by elected official. Police is not the only security outfit in the country.

Now, people wonder why the damned country is going to HELL in a hand basket!

Only in Nigeria that the appointed is more powerful than the elected.

Even a fool is called wise when he keeps his counsel to himself. Quota system lawyer does the IGP have the power to make laws for a state, does he have the power to pardon a convict anywhere in this country?? The problem with Nigeria is we’re using a military document as a democratic constitution. Our norm is the opposite of normal in other democracies. Watch how fast this opinion changes when another president appoints an IGP from a different faith & tribe. This ekpa will come out then and give reasons why the IGP cannot arrest an imam presiding over the stoning of anyone who has defaced the koran.

Interestingly, he's correct. According to the police structure an instruction from the IG supercedes an instruction from a governor. Whether that should change is d only debatable matter. But as at now the IG posts CP to states to receive directives from d governors but he the IG can overrule those governors' directives

Tingotoe:
There's no country in the world where the federal police isn't under the direct operational command of the head of government. The FBI in America answer to the president and not any local authority

comparing the Federal Bureau and the States Police departments (NYPD)now huh?? Now you know that's a foolhardy thing to do

kayuseful:


Lol
What could be more ceremonial than that?
You can't do anything but you are only allowed to hold meetings, chop rice and asun

....and drink a bottle of Lancaster

What is the crux of the matter? Is it not supposed to be a case that should have been handled by bailiffs and high court-appointed sheriffs if the Lagos state government had refused to adhere to the Supreme Court judgement?

What are the legal roles of malami, igp and sonwolo in the matter? It's a case of superiority in lawlessness.

Aboki has a point but still an Aboki who doesn't know how to talk.

A governor is superior to any policeman be it an IG or AIG

Try that with wike, you understand what is actually a Governor not soft pedal sanwo

Why waste state money to assist police in their respective domain. This is why the police are helpless in arresting and dealing with herdsmen \ bandits and boko haram

Charge and bail,Affidavit and Writing and Reading of will lawyer speaking

All this one na formalities...

No go try this thing with gov wike o