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Re: The IGP Is Superior To Governors ⁠— Lawyer, Ndakudu Adam by Nobody: 11:48am On Jan 06, 2022
Idiko1:


When did CEO of state become CSO? The president is chief execute officer of the country such as Nigeria hence the executive president. The president is not the chief security officer. The same thing befalls governor of the states. The governor is the chief executive officer of state hence the executive governor. The setup is likened to corporate standard where the CEO is not CSO. A person cannot be a chairman and gateman at the same time. Nigerians tend to coin craps in the newspaper which find their way into psychic of the society. Nigerian police are not apparatus of any state in Nigeria therefore the state governor does not control the ranks of the force.

This is too shallow, irrational and nomadic. I hope somebody will explain to you at the level you can understand - your level. You said the President is not the CSO of the Country but he swore to an Oath to protect the Country. The Armed Forces and Police are under the President.

Read books on the meaning of the Executive President and Executive Governor in a Federal System of government.

I am off again for a week or more on self exile from nairaland. Bye

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Re: The IGP Is Superior To Governors ⁠— Lawyer, Ndakudu Adam by faste: 11:58am On Jan 06, 2022
babaolofin:


This is too shallow, irrational and nomadic. I hope somebody will explain to you at the level you can understand - your level. You said the President is not the CSO of the Country but he swore to an Oath to protect the Country. The Armed Forces and Police are under the President.

Read books on the meaning of the Executive President and Executive Governor in a Federal System of government.

I am off again for a week or more on self exile from nairaland. Bye
That tribal bigot is being sponsored to paint this narrative on this learnt forum.Ignore him!!
Re: The IGP Is Superior To Governors ⁠— Lawyer, Ndakudu Adam by BluntCrazeMan: 1:48pm On Jan 06, 2022
SATANICALLY666:




We knew all these shaa..
That's why the State Governors usually establish some sort of private security for themselves,, and then a State Security Network for their States.
Re: The IGP Is Superior To Governors ⁠— Lawyer, Ndakudu Adam by BluntCrazeMan: 1:54pm On Jan 06, 2022
Kzinne:
yes but doesn't mean the cso position is merely ceremonial. Do you know that the governor of a state holds regular weekly security meetings with all the heads of security agencies posted to that state? So in a way he has a form of contro6. But that control is checked
In the meetings, the heads of security agencies would always promise to do their best.
If you ask them what that “Best” is, they won't tell you.
You know why??
Because they will obey their superiors in the force first before obeying the governor.
And they don't know what their superiors may want.
So, they would continue to give open-ended promises.
Re: The IGP Is Superior To Governors ⁠— Lawyer, Ndakudu Adam by BluntCrazeMan: 1:57pm On Jan 06, 2022
gidgiddy:
Im not even sure a Governor has any control over a Commissioner Of Police
In reality, he doesn't..
He's not the one that put the CP there.
And he cannot remove him.
He can't even punish him sef.
So??
Re: The IGP Is Superior To Governors ⁠— Lawyer, Ndakudu Adam by BluntCrazeMan: 1:59pm On Jan 06, 2022
Most persons don't know that according to the Constitution of Nigeria the Nigerian police is subordinate to the Inspector General (IG) and the IG is under the authority of the President..
The governors in Nigeria are officially the Chief Security Officers of their various states but do not have power on the Nigerian police as it's vested almost entirely with the Inspector General of Police..The inspector general of police is accountable to the President...
Simple as that..
That is why I laugh whenever an IGP would be saying that Nigeria is not yet Ripe enough for State Police..
I mean...
If anybody should be saying anything,, it shouldn't be an IGP naa..
We already know what an IGP would say naa.
Habbbaaaa!!
Re: The IGP Is Superior To Governors ⁠— Lawyer, Ndakudu Adam by BluntCrazeMan: 2:01pm On Jan 06, 2022
orisa37:
NO!!!

THE IGP IS EMPLOYED BY THE FG TO ADVISE THE GOVERNORS WHO ARE THE SOLE AUTHORITIES FOR THE SECURITIES OF THEIR STATES. SO THOSE GOVERNORS CAN ALWAYS REFUSE THE IGP AND HIS ADVICE ON ANY ISSUE.

THE IGP IS IN INDIRECT RELATIONSHIP WITH THE GOVERNORS. THE GOVERNORS WILL ALWAYS EMPLOY THEIR DIRECT SECURITY RESOURCES TO EXECUTE THEIR SECURITY CONSTITUTIONAL RESPONSIBILITIES.

THAT IS THE CONSTITUTIONAL AND DIRECTIVE PROJECTION.
Which Section (or Sub-Section) of the Constitution is that??
I need to read it by myself.
Re: The IGP Is Superior To Governors ⁠— Lawyer, Ndakudu Adam by BluntCrazeMan: 2:03pm On Jan 06, 2022
orisa37:
The IGP IS DIRECTLY IRRESPONSIBLE TO THE STATES.
You need a good dictionary
Re: The IGP Is Superior To Governors ⁠— Lawyer, Ndakudu Adam by BluntCrazeMan: 2:04pm On Jan 06, 2022
Tingotoe:
There's no country in the world where the federal police isn't under the direct operational command of the head of government. The FBI in America answer to the president and not any local authority
But there are state police in America?
Why wouldn't Nigeria copy that too??
Re: The IGP Is Superior To Governors ⁠— Lawyer, Ndakudu Adam by BluntCrazeMan: 2:15pm On Jan 06, 2022
Babinski:


The 1999 Constitution Section 215(4) states that "Subject to the provisions of this Section, the Governor of a State or Commissioner of the Government of the State as he may authorise in that behalf, may give to the Commissioner of Police of that State such lawful directions with respect to the maintenance and securing of public safety and public order within the State as he may consider necessary, and the Commissioner of Police shall comply with those directions or cause them to be complied with."

In view of the above, a Commissioner of Police is bound to obey the directives of a Governor as long as it does not go beyond the limits of the Executive Powers of the Governor as specified in Section 5(3) subsection 2 of the Constitution. In this regard the CP is therefore required to get approval from the IGP who may or may not overrule the Governor because the IGP represents the President who is the Chief Security Officer of the entire country.
See the scenario here.
The IGP sent in security details from Abuja into a State for a covert (confidential) operation..
The CP would definitely be aware of such operation.
These security details wouldn't go to the Governor by themselves.
And it is the duty of the CP to decide the best way to let the Governor to know about it.
..
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Second Scenario.
A Governor is free to give security directives to CP.
But if he gives a critical directive (for instance, a shoot-at-sight order), the CP cannot carry out such directives without the approval of the IGP. And if the IGP declines, the CP would immediately get back to the Governor that he cannot carry out such order.
Re: The IGP Is Superior To Governors ⁠— Lawyer, Ndakudu Adam by tiyejoor: 2:45pm On Jan 06, 2022
so you know pass Akeredolu who is a SAN abi? bomb dey ur head
Re: The IGP Is Superior To Governors ⁠— Lawyer, Ndakudu Adam by emecheboy2(m): 2:59pm On Jan 06, 2022
SATANICALLY666:

This is why Nigeria should be restructured. there is no IGP equivalent in the united states and moreover the IGP is an appointee and not an elected official. That position should be scraped, people like to talk rubbish in this country because it favours them instead of fixing the system by presenting decent bills to help the country.


Re: The IGP Is Superior To Governors ⁠— Lawyer, Ndakudu Adam by orisa37: 5:47pm On Jan 06, 2022
BluntCrazeMan:
Which Section (or Sub-Section) of the Constitution is that??
I need to read it by myself.


U are an ATHEIST or at best THOMAS DIDIMUS.
Re: The IGP Is Superior To Governors ⁠— Lawyer, Ndakudu Adam by orisa37: 5:52pm On Jan 06, 2022
faste:
The weed you de take strong sha!!


The wheat is good.
Re: The IGP Is Superior To Governors ⁠— Lawyer, Ndakudu Adam by Idiko1: 7:58pm On Jan 06, 2022
babaolofin:


This is too shallow, irrational and nomadic. I hope somebody will explain to you at the level you can understand - your level. You said the President is not the CSO of the Country but he swore to an Oath to protect the Country. The Armed Forces and Police are under the President.

Read books on the meaning of the Executive President and Executive Governor in a Federal System of government.

I am off again for a week or more on self exile from nairaland. Bye

It is only in the shithole called Nigeria where swearing an oath confers a person with goofy and imaginary title. I guess books written by Nigerians of the same educational system as you. To put an end to this your idiotic shenanigan, I would want you to point out the section of 1999 Nigerian Constitution which specifically stated the President is the Chief Security Officer (CSO) of the Federal Republic of Nigeria. What a dunce.
Re: The IGP Is Superior To Governors ⁠— Lawyer, Ndakudu Adam by Upworkwriter007(f): 11:53am On Jan 08, 2022
Nauttyprof:


I just don't understand why you typed this. So, why are the governors part of Nigerian Police Council? The Organogram for the council is President, 36 Governors, Chairman of Police Service Commission and IGP.
That same organization have not seat for over 7 years. Only the president can call for such seating and it's at his perogrative. The governors are only CSOs on paper. They cannot give order to the police, and the police is not duty-bound to obey them.
Re: The IGP Is Superior To Governors ⁠— Lawyer, Ndakudu Adam by Nauttyprof(m): 1:31pm On Jan 08, 2022
Upworkwriter007:

That same organization have not seat for over 7 years. Only the president can call for such seating and it's at his perogrative. The governors are only CSOs on paper. They cannot give order to the police, and the police is not duty-bound to obey them.


Why type lies just to back your wrong view. They still had meeting just last year. Constitution empowers the Governor as the CSO and this is what counts in any legal system. It is just the politics in this Nation that hinders true Federalism from being practised.

If the Governor have no power why do they reject CP deployed to their states and the IGP grants their request?
Re: The IGP Is Superior To Governors ⁠— Lawyer, Ndakudu Adam by Idiko1: 3:20pm On Jan 08, 2022
Nauttyprof:



Why type lies just to back your wrong view. They still had meeting just last year. Constitution empowers the Governor as the CSO and this is what counts in any legal system. It is just the politics in this Nation that hinders true Federalism from being practised.

If the Governor have no power why do they reject CP deployed to their states and the IGP grants their request?

When people manipulate words, it brings certain implication. Please for posterity's sake, what section of 1999 Nigerian Constitution explicitly or implicitly made mention of CSO (chief security officer)? You simply cannot grant an office or a duty which is not mentioned in the constitution to any office holder in Nigeria.

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