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Re: Buhari: What I Told Governor Makinde When He Visited Over Farmer-Herder Clashes by Simeon88(m): 9:48pm On Jan 05, 2022
This is embarrassing
Re: Buhari: What I Told Governor Makinde When He Visited Over Farmer-Herder Clashes by HacheNoire: 9:50pm On Jan 05, 2022
Simeon88:
This is embarrassing

What’s embarrassing there? Point it out!

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Re: Buhari: What I Told Governor Makinde When He Visited Over Farmer-Herder Clashes by HacheNoire: 9:51pm On Jan 05, 2022
dugosas:
Oloriburuku president

Issues on the table! No sense, No recommendation or constructive criticism

All you got is too insult your leaders

Are you employed? I pity your Boss if you are.

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Re: Buhari: What I Told Governor Makinde When He Visited Over Farmer-Herder Clashes by LegendHero(m): 9:51pm On Jan 05, 2022
It got to a stage that them Seun burst into laughter during the interview with the president.

I swear with the way he was evading or answering questions upside down at some point, me self go laugh tire. Kudos to them Seun for at least keeping a straight face at those answers, I will not last 5 min before DSS arrest me at that spot coz I go laugh tire.

However I think he’s purposely evading the questions by giving unrelated answers. We always think Buhari is not wise but he’s purposely doing that to cover for some of this administration failure.

When them list all the numerous economic statistics give baba between 2015 & 2021 , he talk say them Seun no get their calculations right. Which of the calculations lol.

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Re: Buhari: What I Told Governor Makinde When He Visited Over Farmer-Herder Clashes by HacheNoire: 9:54pm On Jan 05, 2022
Sammy07:
Mtcheeewww.

Spray chemicals (insecticides and Herbicides) on the farms make the cows eat am. By the time they gets to their abode they will be dying one by one.


Fayose recommended one chemical like that during his tenure

And you feel you be sounded brilliant

Buhari was really right when he said the Nigerian youths are not brilliant.

Read what you composed, and be fare to yourself. Do you really feel you sanely made sense?

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Re: Buhari: What I Told Governor Makinde When He Visited Over Farmer-Herder Clashes by Nobody: 9:57pm On Jan 05, 2022
HacheNoire:


When ranching was suggested via FG support, same called people called it Fulanization and killed the idea

It was a good initiative that was killed with tribal and religious bigotry.

If plan had been implemented then, herders would have been caged by now and left alone to feed their live stock. Accountability would have been too notched and same time revenue generation for states.

But hate does not make most Nigerians see.

Nigerians protested against the ranching framework of the Nigerian government because it was socialist in nature.

State governments were to donate settlements to herders and furnish the large ranches with amenities to support the herders and their families.

It was a bias approach because that proposed that billions of naira is spent on the aggressor (herders) on one hand while the farmers get nothing on the other hand but quiet possession to enjoy their farms which they have always been entitled to by virtue of their citizenship.

Capitalism, which guides the Nigerian food industry, presupposes that businessmen build and manage the premises and facilities of their businesses. No law in Nigeria prevents cattle owners from purchasing land and building ranches. Why should the Federal government mandate that settlements be given to them when farmers do not get farm lands free of charge?

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Re: Buhari: What I Told Governor Makinde When He Visited Over Farmer-Herder Clashes by dugosas: 9:58pm On Jan 05, 2022
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HacheNoire:


Issues in the table! No sense, No recommendation or constructive criticism

All you got is too insult your leaders

Are you employed? I pity your Boss if you are.
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Re: Buhari: What I Told Governor Makinde When He Visited Over Farmer-Herder Clashes by Angelfrost(m): 9:58pm On Jan 05, 2022
Just listen to the so-called advice from a sitting president... Such level of dullness!

What a shame!!!

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Re: Buhari: What I Told Governor Makinde When He Visited Over Farmer-Herder Clashes by HacheNoire: 10:09pm On Jan 05, 2022
Plantiff:


Nigerians protested against the ranching framework of the Nigerian government because it was socialist in nature.

State governments were to donate settlements to herders and furnish the large ranches with amenities to support the herders and their families.

It was a bias approach because that proposed that billions of naira is spent on the aggressor (herders) on one hand while the farmers get nothing on the other hand but quiet possession to enjoy their farms which they have always been entitled to by virtue of the citizenship.

Capitalism, which guides the Nigerian food industry, presupposes that businessmen build and manage the premises and facilities of their businesses. No law in Nigeria prevents cattle owners from purchasing land and building ranches. Why should the Federal government mandate that settlements be given to them when farmers do not get farm lands free of charge?

If it was to tackle insecurity, the initiative was top notch. And it’s not new around the world that FG actively supporting Agricukture. The vast ranches olyoubfind in Australia and America were not paid of outrightly, they were funded via agricultural loans which the Nigerian government also wanted to fund.

Their was no time land was said to be “Freely” donated. Compensation was planned for land owners and that was what budget was mostly about.

The fact that ideas did not get to the round table, or critically delineated about, excluding hate and bigotry, shows how Nigerians were not ready to go head-on with criminal herdsmen.

And what amazed me about the criticisms then, was that, no better idea sprung up. Everybody only criticized and still complain till date.

So if government cannot fund ranching for security sake, then we must be able to welcome and live with status quo till a better and diplomatic solution is reached.

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Re: Buhari: What I Told Governor Makinde When He Visited Over Farmer-Herder Clashes by adamsmith914: 10:12pm On Jan 05, 2022
rayvelez:
Buhari is a dullard president maupe don cast him tonight. Baba is denying direct primary dat emerged him as candidate in 2015.
Mumu use your brain, he is not denying any direct primaries, you cannot Force it on parties, they should have a choice to what suits their union.

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Re: Buhari: What I Told Governor Makinde When He Visited Over Farmer-Herder Clashes by GodIsBiafran: 10:15pm On Jan 05, 2022
When it comes to the farmers-herdsmen issue Buhari is a MONUMENTAL failure.
Re: Buhari: What I Told Governor Makinde When He Visited Over Farmer-Herder Clashes by J3susFr3ak: 10:15pm On Jan 05, 2022
HacheNoire:


When ranching was suggested via FG support, same called people called it Fulanization and killed the idea

It was a good initiative that was killed with tribal and religious bigotry.

If plan had been implemented then, herders would have been caged by now and left alone to feed their live stock. Accountability would have been too notched and same time revenue generation for states.

But hate does not make most Nigerians see.

There is a lot of land in Niger Republic and your Sharia States. What is stopping you? Drill borehole, plant edible grass on the land and ranch away...stop disturbing the lives of peaceful Middlebelters and Southerners...

Nonsense!

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Re: Buhari: What I Told Governor Makinde When He Visited Over Farmer-Herder Clashes by RiceProducers: 10:16pm On Jan 05, 2022
Plantiff:
NIGERIA is a funny country.

The only solution is ranching.

It's been said more than a million times grin

Nomadic animal husbandry systems are simply outdated. The people of Nigeria are not the problem but the system the conservatives are adamant never to modify.

Nigeria is a funny country. People think they know but don't. Ranching is the oldest form of animal husbandry. There is nothing modern about it. In fact herdsmen started as ranchers before being displaced by wars and climate change.
In the Bible, someone married two daughters of one man as a rancher and became a herdsman after that.

Very few people are adopting ranching apart from governments in Nigeria in spite of all these superior airs about ranching, why? Because is fucking expensive that is why. Go and put your money in it and we check the figures in 3 years.

Governments can do ranching but they should also do grazing zones for small holder livestock farmers.

Simple enough if you actually think.
Re: Buhari: What I Told Governor Makinde When He Visited Over Farmer-Herder Clashes by ablejesus26(m): 10:17pm On Jan 05, 2022
If to se the governors wey go see am wise
them for ask am why e be se na for him tenure na im the killer heardmen come get this kind morale to carry out such evil.
Re: Buhari: What I Told Governor Makinde When He Visited Over Farmer-Herder Clashes by 2016easy2017: 10:19pm On Jan 05, 2022
Re: Buhari: What I Told Governor Makinde When He Visited Over Farmer-Herder Clashes by CSTRR: 10:20pm On Jan 05, 2022
Deploy local solutions.

What is more local than state policing?
Re: Buhari: What I Told Governor Makinde When He Visited Over Farmer-Herder Clashes by HacheNoire: 10:20pm On Jan 05, 2022
J3susFr3ak:


There is a lot of land in Niger Republic and your Sharia States. What is stopping you? Drill borehole, plant edible grass on the land and ranch away...stop disturbing the lives of peaceful Middlebelters and Southerners...

Nonsense!

Now read what you composed and be sincere with yourself l, do you really think you made sense?

In topics like this, silence is golden if you don’t have constructive criticism.

How does it sound to you? You feel brilliant by the hate inspired idea.

Hello! Where sanity is demanded, you should be nautical miles away
Re: Buhari: What I Told Governor Makinde When He Visited Over Farmer-Herder Clashes by Nobody: 10:25pm On Jan 05, 2022
HacheNoire:


If it was to tackle insecurity, the initiative was top notch. And it’s not new around the world that FG actively supporting Agricukture. The vast ranches olyoubfind in Australia and America were not paid of outrightly, they were funded via agricultural loans which the Nigerian government also wanted to fund.

Their was no time land was said to be “Freely” donated. Compensation was planned for land owners and that was what budget was mostly about.

The fact that ideas did not get to the round table, or critically delineated about, excluding hate and bigotry, shows how Nigerians were not ready to go head-on with criminal herdsmen.

And what amazed me about the criticisms them was that, no better idea sprung up. Everybody only criticized and still complain till date.

So if government cannot fund ram hung for security sake, then we must be able to welcome and live with status quo till a better and diplomatic solution is reached.

I watched Buhari's Arise TV interview live last year. When he was asked about the herdsmen/farmers crisis, he insisted on the 368 grazing routes which were listed in the Federal Gazette back in the 60s when Nigeria's population didn't explode and industrialization was relatively low.

The problem is that the Federal Government is reluctant to outrightly ban nomadic animal husbandry and the practice of herdsmen across Nigeria.

When you make a law proscribing and criminalizing the movement of flocks from town to town in search of greener pastures and set a date all those involved are expected to embrace ranching, then it would be a more successful exercise. Grants and loans can be given to cattle rearers to facilitate their transition to ranching.

We've seen an outright ban on cryptocurrency and an embargo on forex trading placed on parallel market traders last year. Why hasn't there still been an outright ban on nomadic cattle rearing technique?

Even if settlements were created, it would still be optional for herdsmen to stay only within their settlements without a law mandating them to do so.

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Re: Buhari: What I Told Governor Makinde When He Visited Over Farmer-Herder Clashes by HacheNoire: 10:35pm On Jan 05, 2022
Plantiff:


I watched Buhari's Arise TV interview live last year. When he was asked about the herdsmen/farmers crisis, he insisted on the 368 grazing routes which were listed in the Federal Gazette back in the 60s when Nigeria's population didn't explode and industrialization was relatively low.

The problem is that the Federal Government is reluctant to outrightly ban nomadic animal husbandry and the practice of herdsmen across Nigeria.

When you make a law proscribing and criminalizing the movement of flocks from town to town in search of greener pastures and set a date all those involved are expected embrace ranching, then it would be a more successful exercise. Grants and loans can be given to cattle rearers to facilitate their transition to ranching.

We've seen an outright ban on cryptocurrency and an embargo on forex trading placed on parallel market traders last year. Why hasn't there still been an outright ban on nomadic cattle rearing technique.

Even if settlements were created, it would still be optional for herdsmen to stay only within their settlements without a law mandating them to do so.

That’s was the whole idea to settle the herders. Like I said, Hate and bigotry did not make the initiate see light of the day. It was thrown out. People had the right to propose terms and make adjustment to initiative on one common goal, but fulanization was in the air that focus was lost.

As at today, the problem continues with no better solution other than ranching.

Lands could be leased,
State parastatals monitoring activity of ranches
They will be taxed
It will expose used suburbs and bring about employment
Animal disease control and monitoring
Top notch database for herders and cattles. Where states can give you factual figures of the count of Cattles and herdsmen.

The benefits are endless, and the major focus about insecurity is defeated. At that point, anybody wandering in the bush will face full wrath of the law.
Re: Buhari: What I Told Governor Makinde When He Visited Over Farmer-Herder Clashes by lagonovo: 10:38pm On Jan 05, 2022
So what's the current status in Oyo State?
We hardly hear any breaking news about Fulani attacks anymore. What changed? Makinde eventually got the issue resolved?
Re: Buhari: What I Told Governor Makinde When He Visited Over Farmer-Herder Clashes by FarahAideed: 10:39pm On Jan 05, 2022
Ahmed0336:


Ask people wey cows die for their farms as a result of this approach how e end.

So you people went back there and murdered them? You are all the same
Re: Buhari: What I Told Governor Makinde When He Visited Over Farmer-Herder Clashes by Nobody: 10:40pm On Jan 05, 2022
RiceProducers:


Nigeria is a funny country. People think they know but don't. Ranching is the oldest form of animal husbandry. There is nothing modern about it. In fact herdsmen started as ranchers before being displaced by wars and climate change.
In the Bible, someone married two daughters of one man as a rancher and became a herdsman after that.

Very few people are adopting ranching apart from governments in Nigeria in spite of all these superior airs about ranching, why? Because is fucking expensive that is why. Go and put your money in it and we check the figures in 3 years.

Governments can do ranching but they should also do grazing zones for small holder livestock farmers.

Simple enough if you actually think.

In the past crop farmers had to rely on practices like crop rotation or left a consistently cultivated farm for two or three years for the nutrients to come back but then artificial fertilizers came because there isn't that much land not to make use of the few a farmer has.

In the past, farmers had to migrate to places with access to water during droughts until irrigation came.

This is a scientifically advanced world where companies are already breeding animals in big laboratories. Why is it impossible for farmers to breed their cattle in ranches with the vast animal husbandry technologies available today?

Infact, there are supplements for diary cattles and cattles used for beef today. We wouldn't be talking about meat to feed Nigerians but milk for export.

In a capitalist economy, the price of such development should be borne by the consumers. Increase the freaking standard and increase the price.
Re: Buhari: What I Told Governor Makinde When He Visited Over Farmer-Herder Clashes by airsaylongcome: 10:46pm On Jan 05, 2022
HacheNoire:


When ranching was suggested via FG support, same called people called it Fulanization and killed the idea

It was a good initiative that was killed with tribal and religious bigotry.

If plan had been implemented then, herders would have been caged by now and left alone to feed their live stock. Accountability would have been too notched and same time revenue generation for states.

But hate does not make most Nigerians see.

I guess you are talking about Ruga. The North is geographically larger than the south in terms of land mass. Why then take Ruga from the larger north and locate them in the smaller south where population density is higher? Why should the south surrender land for Ruga when the North has a huge mass of unoccupied territory? Sambisa alone is larger than the entire southeast. Why not turn large swathes of Sambisa into a huge ranch (Ruga) for the herders?

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Re: Buhari: What I Told Governor Makinde When He Visited Over Farmer-Herder Clashes by Nobody: 10:49pm On Jan 05, 2022
HacheNoire:


That’s was the whole idea to settle the herders. Like I said, Hate and bigotry did not make the initiate see light of the day. It was thrown out. People had the right to propose terms and make adjustment to initiative on one common goal, but fulanization was in the air that focus was lost.

As at today, the problem continues with no better solution other than ranching.

Lands could be leased,
State parastatals monitoring activity of ranches
They will be taxed
It will expose used suburbs and bring about employment
Animal disease control and monitoring
Top notch database for herders and cattles. Where states can give you factual figures of the count of Cattles and herdsmen.

The benefits are endless, and the major focus about insecurity is defeated. At that point, anybody wandering in the bush will face full wrath of the law.

You're right but then there's "islamophobia" which is a cause of concern even in the most advanced countries.

With almost an equal percentage of Christians and Muslims in the country the government must be strategic enough to allay the fears of the natives and prevent triggering the mistrust of the locals.

Be honest, how would the indigenous people of Kano or Zamfara or Sokoto react to a law that seeks land for pig farmers or alcohol breweries?
Re: Buhari: What I Told Governor Makinde When He Visited Over Farmer-Herder Clashes by sharpsecret: 10:51pm On Jan 05, 2022
Islie:


https://dailytrust.com/buhari-what-i-told-oyo-governor-when-he-visited-over-farmer-herder-clashes
because the herders were in their forest and their animal went into the neigbourhood farms...now does fulani forest extend to ibarapa land in Ibadan...I pity afonja dem...u guys think mnk is ur problem
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Re: Buhari: What I Told Governor Makinde When He Visited Over Farmer-Herder Clashes by beejay85: 10:53pm On Jan 05, 2022
Plantiff:
NIGERIA is a funny country.

The only solution is ranching.

It's been said more than a million times grin

Nomadic animal husbandry systems are simply outdated. The people of Nigeria are not the problem but the system the conservatives are adamant never to modify.
Ranching isn't the problem.
The distrust between the locals and herder won't make the locals give up their lands for ranching...due to the atrocities they have suffered..
Except the ranches LL be owned and managed by d locals....which is unrealizable as they won't give up crop farming they v been engaged in for centuries for animal husbandry
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