WHAT IS DIRECT PRIMARY?

In a direct primary election, registered members of the party just vote for who they want to be the flag-bearer of their party. Unlike with the indirect primaries, no delegates are involved, party members choose their representatives through polls like they would in a general election.

This is currently added to the electoral bill as amended and with this type of primaries, Many people in a party across the nation will vote who they want and not leave it to some corrupt delegates that can be easily bribed or manipulated.

Unfortunately, President Muhamadu Buhari has refused to assent to the bill just because of this and it is now left for the 9th National assembly to either dance to the tune of the president and remove it or veto his non assent and pass the bill into law.

So let's see some of the positive effects of direct primaries in Nigeria Democratic process.

1.it will remove Godfatherism in its entirety as well as prevent recycling of redundant and corrupt politicians.

2. It will give rise to productivity of the elected people cos they know that the same people who voted for them are the same people who will decide if they should run again and not some greedy corrupt ward chairmen or party leaders hence their loyalty will be towards the electorates and not to party leaders.

3. It will make the main election process a jamboree and less complicated as the Direct primary would have given a clear direction of the possible outcome of the general election.

4. Though some quarters claim that it is costly but I believe that it is better to have a strong democracy that is "costly".

5. It will save Nigerians from having to pick from many wrong options imposed on us by the so-called "owners of Nigeria" or Clueless self centered and corrupt power brokers.

6.Ultimately strengthen our Democracy as direct primaries will be less prone to corruption or money inducement as it will be easier to bribe few delegates than bribing the entire electorates all over the country.

It is time for Nigerians to urge the National assembly to do the right thing by signing the bill into law thereby saving our crumbling democracy.

We can not be doing things the same way and expect a different result... It's high time we changed the way we do things so that we can build a nation of our dreams.

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It is not certain if it will be an open direct primary(Where registered voters can vote to choose a representative for any party without having to register into any particular party but can only vote once) or a closed direct primary (Where only registered member of a particular party can vote) but we must be proactive by getting our PVCs and if possible, join a party of our choice and be part of the process to change Nigeria.

i agree with you..but the politicians will never agree on this,cos most of them will never be flag bearers if this process is followed...they bribe the delegates

Though in a sane clime, direct primary promises those positive effects. We have had some direct primaries in Nigeria and saw the effect.

1. Remove Godfatherism? Osun state APC had primary election prior to the 2018 gubernatorial election in the state. The Godfather from Lagos, Bola Ahmed Tinubu, had Governor Gboyega Oyetola winning the primary as against the wish of the siting governor.
Moreover, did the primary election remove Godfatherism in Lagos state where Sanwo Olu won the incumbent, Ambode?

2 Give rise to Productivity?
The last time I checked, Muhammadu Buhari and some APC governors were given the 2019 election ticket to contest by the party through the direct primary, has that increased their productivity?

3. Make the main election process a jamboree?
Last Anambra State gubernatorial election is a case study here where Senator Andy Uba was alleged to have 230,201 votes. This makes the election process a “jamboree” when the total vote cast was even a little above the 230,201 a candidate had in the direct primary election.

4. Verily, there will be more money to be shared and the money will get to the grassroot to lure the party members to vote unlike in indirect when few delegates are gathered.

Direct Primaries will not be adopted cos politicians can not afford to bribe the entire population.

They want a select group they can afford to bribe. That's what they mean when they say it will be too expensive.

Amotolongbo:
Though in a sane clime, direct primary promises those positive effects. We have had some direct primaries in Nigeria and saw the effect.

1. Remove Godfatherism? Osun state APC had primary election prior to the 2018 gubernatorial election in the state. The Godfather from Lagos, Bola Ahmed Tinubu, had Governor Gboyega Oyetola winning the primary as against the wish of the siting governor.

2 Give rise to Productivity?
The last time I checked, Muhammadu Buhari was given the second term ticket by his party through the direct primary, has that increased his productivity?

Are you sure you understand what you are writing?

You are mistaking indirect primaries for direct primaries.

Saturn444:
Direct Primaries will not be adopted cos politicians can not afford to bribe the entire population.

They want a select group they can afford to bribe. That's why they mean when they say it will be too expensive.

Gbam! On point

Toks2008:


Are you sure you understand what you are writing?

You are mistaking indirect primaries for direct primaries.

Are you sure you understand your post?

Did Lagos state APC have indirect primary election to nominate its candidate, Mr Sanwo Olu?
Of course it was direct primary election they had.

Buhari was given the ticket for his second term contest through a direct primary election.
So what is your argument?

Amotolongbo:
Are you sure you understand your post?

Did Lagos state APC have indirect primary election to nominate its candidate, Mr Sanwo Olu?
Of course it was direct primary election they had.

Buhari was given the ticket for his second term contest through a direct primary election.
So what is your argument?

He is right, you don't know the difference between a direct, indirect & consensus. Buhari had the second term through consensus while Sanwo Olu's candidacy reflected the will of the majority.


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EraseTheDot:

He is right, you don't know the difference between a direct, indirect & consensus. Buhari had the second term through consensus while Sanwo Olu's candidacy reflected the will of the majority.


-erase the dot

Sanwo Olu’s candidacy reflected the will of the majority. Accepted!
Did the direct primary take away Godfatherism?
That question is boolean enough to everyone

APC presidential primary was tagged consensus, why did the party still have to go through the direct primary election?

Moreover, the presidency made a release in lieu of the “direct primary election”.


https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vanguardngr.com/2018/09/2019-success-of-apc-direct-presidential-primary-an-indication-of-what-to-expect-presidency/amp/

Amotolongbo:
Are you sure you understand your post?

Did Lagos state APC have indirect primary election to nominate its candidate, Mr Sanwo Olu?
Of course it was direct primary election they had.

Buhari was given the ticket for his second term contest through a direct primary election.
So what is your argument?

Of course those were the people's choice so what is your point?

That majority of card carrying members choose a candidate does not mean every body will like their choice neither does it mean that the person will person well but at least they will represent the. Choice of the people.

That is my point.

Toks2008:


Of course those were the people's choice so what is your point?

That majority of card carrying members choose a candidate does not mean every body will like their choice neither does it mean that the person will person well but at least they will represent the. Choice of the people.

That is my point.

Link them to the points you stated now

Amotolongbo:
Sanwo Olu’s candidacy reflected the will of the majority. Accepted!
Did the direct primary take away Godfatherism?
That question is boolean enough to everyone

APC presidential primary was tagged consensus, why did the party still have to go through the direct primary election?

Moreover, the presidency made a release in lieu of the “direct primary election”.


https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vanguardngr.com/2018/09/2019-success-of-apc-direct-presidential-primary-an-indication-of-what-to-expect-presidency/amp/

You are still getting it wrong.

Sometimes the will of the people may tally with that of the Power brokers or God fathers but at least the people's will still prevailed.

It is the latter that matters regardless of the choice of the godfathers.

Amotolongbo:
Link them to the points you stated now

They perfectly aligned.

That the choice of the people tallies with that of party leaders does not change the positive effect of Direct primaries.

Amotolongbo:
Sanwo Olu’s candidacy reflected the will of the majority. Accepted!
Did the direct primary take away Godfatherism?
That question is boolean enough to everyone

APC presidential primary was tagged consensus, why did the party still have to go through the direct primary election?

Moreover, the presidency made a release in lieu of the “direct primary election”.


https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vanguardngr.com/2018/09/2019-success-of-apc-direct-presidential-primary-an-indication-of-what-to-expect-presidency/amp/

No too dey argue. APC came together to ratify Buhari's Candidacy. He was unopposed. If you had the name of anyone who contested the primaries against him, let us know.

Moreover, direct primaries reduces the influence of godfatherism. Indirect is a game of the money bags which are easily influenced by the wealth and dictates of the godfathers.


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Toks2008:


You are still getting it wrong.

Sometimes the will of the people may tally with that of the Power brokers or God fathers but at least the people's will still prevailed.

It is the latter that matters regardless of the choice of the godfathers.

If you read my post well, I I started with your points are valid in sane clime.

But many case studies in Nigeria have nullified the points.

If Ambode was given the second term ticket, would he lose the gubernatorial election.
The fact is that the plan of the Godfather prevailed.

EraseTheDot:

No too dey argue. APC came together to ratify Buhari's Candidacy. He was unopposed. If you had the name of anyone who contested the primaries against him, let us know.

Moreover, direct primaries reduces the influence of godfatherism. Indirect is a game of the money bags which are easily influenced by the wealth and dictates of the godfathers.


-erase the dot

So Garba Lawal who spoke for the presidency didn’t know what he was saying when he said “APC direct primary election” ?
Who am I to believe, you or the spokesperson for the President?

Direct primary is the game of moneybag. Indirect primary is the game of power brokers

The arguments for and against the topic are all valid because, the Nigerian electorates are majorly sentimental and illitrate and poor.
No matter the one adopted, money, tribe and religion MUST still play a very vital role in the decision of the electorate.

Amotolongbo:
If you read my post well, I I started with your points are valid in sane clime.

But many case studies in Nigeria have nullified the points.

If Ambode was given the second term ticket, would he lose the gubernatorial election.
The fact is that the plan of the Godfather prevailed.

OH I think you assumed that people love Ambode but that is where you got it wrong.

I don't know what Ambode did but for some reasons people just don't want him anymore, Forget the online love. Elections are done offline

BeardedmeatR:
The arguments for and against the topic are all valid because, the Nigerian electorates are majorly sentimental and illitrate and poor.
No matter the one adopted, money, tribe and religion MUST still play a very vital role in the decision of the electorate.

Very true but at least not as easy as it will be with indirect.

Toks2008:

OH I think you assumed that people love Ambode but that is where you got it wrong.

I don't know what Ambode did but for some reasons people just don't want him anymore, Forget the online love. Elections are done and offline

Please don’t get it wrong!

APC members didn’t like Ambode, not Lagosians
Ambode issue was a party issue

Amotolongbo:
So Garba Lawal who spoke for the presidency didn’t know what he was saying when he said “APC direct primary election” ?
Who am I to believe, you or the spokesperson for the President?

Direct primary is the game of moneybag. Indirect primary is the game of power brokers

They will bribe tire. Maybe it will be their game on the local government level but not state and federal and not even at this time and age.

Amotolongbo:
Please don’t get it wrong!

APC members didn’t like Ambode, not Lagosians
Ambode issue was a party issue

Exactly my point.

You see those Lagosians, they don't even have PVCs or belong to any party. They are online showing love.

Toks2008:


They will bribe tire. Maybe it will be their game on the local government level but not state and federal and not even at this time and age.

really?

Please aren’t you a Nigerian?
Perhaps you’ve traveled out of Nigeria for long.

We see how electorates are bought with money in the states and federal elections in Nigeria. Or am I missing something!
Bullion vans election is still fresh in our memory o

Toks2008:


Very true but at least not as easy as it will be with indirect.

May be a thorough voters education should be embarked first, starting from primary School level.

Amotolongbo:
So Garba Lawal who spoke for the presidency didn’t know what he was saying when he said “APC direct primary election” ?
Who am I to believe, you or the spokesperson for the President?

Direct primary is the game of moneybag. Indirect primary is the game of power brokers

You're a handful sha, just dey complicate simple issues unnecessarily. If Garba Sheu is your own source of knowledge, the law is mine. Buhari was selected as a consensus candidate as Gej was so selected in 2015 unopposed.

And if direct primaries is a game of money bag, then that's you being unreasonably mischievous.
Do you know that direct primaries is synonymous to option A4 which is a far better democratic process than indirect primaries whereby delegates are lodged in an hotel with series of dollar competition. Pls, get adequate understanding.



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Toks2008:


They will bribe tire. Maybe it will be their game on the local government level but not state and federal and not even at this time and age.

Leave them make dem dey talk nonsense. The Governors who opposed direct primaries knew it would be game over. How many people do you want to bribe? Like over 500,000 party members in a state?


-erase the dot

Amotolongbo:
really?

Please aren’t you a Nigerian?
Perhaps you’ve traveled out of Nigeria for long.

We see how electorates are bought with money in the states and federal elections in Nigeria. Or am I missing something!
Bullion vans election is still fresh in our memory o

Nobody is saying money will not change hands but it will not be as easy as in the case of indirect primaries... This is simple logic.

EraseTheDot:

You're a handful sha, just dey complicate simple issues unnecessarily. If Garba Sheu is your own source of knowledge, the law is mine. Buhari was selected as a consensus candidate as Gej was so selected in 2015 unopposed.

And if direct primaries is a game of money bag, then that's you being unreasonably mischievous.
Do you know that direct primaries is synonymous to option A4 which is a far better democratic process than indirect primaries whereby delegates are lodged in an hotel with series of dollar competition. Pls, get adequate understanding.



-erase the dot

Why are you struggling to make sense young man?
A low IQ person still has a better understanding than you.
Nobody is arguing if Buhari was a consensus candidate or not with you.
Did direct primary election hold for the APC presidential candidate or not.

You believe in Law and not what Garba Sheu, tell us which Nigerian law stipulated a consensus candidacy for APC presidential candidate.

Na wa for these small small children o

Amotolongbo:
Please don’t get it wrong!

APC members didn’t like Ambode, not Lagosians
Ambode issue was a party issue

Sofri sofri dey lie o. Lagosian were fed up with Ambode's mishandling of environmental sanitation. Lagos became unsightly barely 5 months after Fashola's pristine environmental policy.. I can remember that Ambode was called out every day on every platforms.
I'm beginning to understand where your biases lie, but biko, sofri dey rub am for our face, otherwise....


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Amotolongbo:
Why are you struggling to make sense young man?
A low IQ person still has a better understanding than you.
Nobody is arguing if Buhari was a consensus candidate or not with you.
Did direct primary election hold for the APC presidential candidate or not.

You believe in Law and not what Garba Sheu, tell us which Nigerian law stipulated a consensus candidacy for APC presidential candidate.

Na wa for these small small children o

In 2014, Buhari won through indirect primaries but won with direct in 2018 and that is because the APC members across the country love him as their choice.

See the problem with us is that many people don't vote either in primaries or general elections but they are online showing preference for a particular candidate.

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EraseTheDot:

Sofri sofri dey lie o. Lagosian were fed up with Ambode's mishandling of environmental sanitation. Lagos became unsightly barely 5 months after Fashola's pristine environmental policy.. I can remember that Ambode was called out every day on every platforms.
I'm beginning to understand where your biases lie, but biko, sofri dey rub am for our face, otherwise....


-erase the dot

[/s]This one is just one biased party follower

Toks2008:


In 2014, Buhari won through indirect primaries but won with direct in 2018 and that is because the APC members across the country love him as their choice.

See the problem with us is that many people don't vote either in primaries or general elections but they are online showing preference for a particular candidate.

Surely, I agree with you on that.

If you go back to see where I mentioned Buhari and other APC governors who were nominated based on direct primary, it was on the second point where you said “it will increase productivity”.
Nigeria’s problem is so complex that on can’t generalise solution.

All the same, your opinions and suggestions are good and if we all are ready to make the nation great, the country shall be great