If Jesus was in Nigeria today will you doubt His is the Messiah prophesied about and let Him be crucified?

Did He fufill all the requirements of the Messiah, promised in the Old Testament?

MindHacker9000:

If Jesus was in Nigeria today will you doubt who His is the Son of God and let Him be crucified?

Just humble yourself and learn, if Jesus comes to this planet a hundred times as a human born into a humble family and trying to change the system by which greedy religious leaders extort money from their unsuspecting followers. Believe me he will be tortured to dead again and again and again!

MaxInDHouse:

Just humble yourself and learn, if Jesus comes to this planet a hundred times as a human born into a humble family and trying to change the system by which greedy religious leaders extort money from their unsuspecting followers. Believe me he will be tortured to dead again and again and again!

Anyone that has studied the Old Testament properly will know that He does not meet the requirements of the Messiah promised in the Old Testament and will be right to doubt Him.

Messiah and Nigeria are word and opposite

Well nobody can read the Bible carnally and understand without the help of God's active force!

MaxInDHouse:

Just humble yourself and learn, if Jesus comes to this planet a hundred times as a human born into a humble family and trying to change the system by which greedy religious leaders extort money from their unsuspecting followers. Believe me he will be tortured to dead again and again and again!

In a even more gruesome manner

Snitch24:

In a even more gruesome manner

My friend thought Jesus was fake simply because majority of the Jews rejected him.
Abeg which of the prophets did the Israelites ever accepted with their whole heart?
Even Moses whom God used to bring them out of Egypt where they were slaving under the Egyptians this stiff-necked people wanted to stone him to death! Exodus 17:2-4

So because of their faithlessness a 21st century Nigerian is here saying Jesus was fake simply because the Israelites rejected him as if there has ever been a time the Israelites fully accepted any prophet! Matthew 23:37-38

MaxInDHouse:


My friend thought Jesus was fake simply because majority of the Jews rejected him.
Abeg which of the prophets did the Israelites ever accepted with their whole heart?
Even Moses whom God used to bring them out of Egypt where they were slaving under the Egyptians this stiff-necked people wanted to stone him to death! Exodus 17:2-4

So because of their faithlessness a 21st century Nigerian is here saying Jesus was fake simply because the Israelites rejected him as if there has ever been a time the Israelites fully accepted any prophet! Matthew 23:37-38

They have entire chapters of their scriptures dedicated to their prophets. What does acceptance mean to you ?

BeLookingIDIOT:

They have entire chapters of their scriptures dedicated to their prophets. What does acceptance mean to you ?

My friend it seems you're a baby when talking about pretext.
Well let me enlighten you that it's the same people that plotted the death of nice and kindhearted patriots that will build their statues to deceive the coming generations into thinking they have the interest of their people at heart.
Whereas if they're alive when such patriots live they will join in killing the patriots! Luke 11:47

Please don't feel i'm just smart for nothing i was an agent of the intelligence.
Real culprits use the deceit to cover their tracks and at the same time win the hearts of unsuspecting gullible people over.

If the books aren't named after the good prophets how will greedy religious leaders deceive their gullible followers?

MaxInDHouse:


My friend it seems you're a baby when talking about pretext.
Well let me enlighten you that it's the same people that plotted the death of nice and kindhearted patriots that will build their statues to deceive the coming generations into thinking they have the interest of their people at heart.
Whereas if they're alive when such patriots live they will join in killing the patriots! Luke 11:47

Please don't feel i'm just smart for nothing i was an agent of the intelligence.
Real culprits use the deceit to cover their tracks and at the same time win the hearts of unsuspecting gullible people over.

If the books aren't named after the good prophets how will greedy religious leaders deceive their gullible followers?

You are not smart at all and you want to enlighten others. If you are not teaching a FAKE gospel then tell us what has not been fulfilled that Jesus stated that will happen and immediately after He will return.

The Jew are very smart not to accept Jesus as their Messiah as He just does not match the requirements of a Messiah.

MindHacker9000:


You are not smart at all and you want to enlighten others. If you are not teaching a FAKE gospel then tell us what has not been fulfilled that Jesus stated that will happen and immediately after He will return.

The Jew are very smart not to accept Jesus as their Messiah as He just does not match the requirements of a Messiah.

“But in those days, after that tribulation, the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light, and the stars will be falling out of heaven, and the powers that are in the heavens will be shaken. And then they will see the Son of man coming in the clouds with great power and glory. And then he will send out the angels and will gather his chosen ones together from the four winds, from earth’s extremity to heaven’s extremity. Mark 13:24-27

MaxInDHouse:


“But in those days, after that tribulation, the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light, and the stars will be falling out of heaven, and the powers that are in the heavens will be shaken. And then they will see the Son of man coming in the clouds with great power and glory. And then he will send out the angels and will gather his chosen ones together from the four winds, from earth’s extremity to heaven’s extremity. Mark 13:24-27

22“If those days had not been cut short, no one would survive, but for the sake of the elect those days will be shortened.
30“Then will appear the sign of the Son of Man in heaven.
34 Truly I tell you, this generation will certainly not pass away until all these things have happened. Matthew 24:22,30 & 34

MindHacker9000:


22“If those days had not been cut short, no one would survive, but for the sake of the elect those days will be shortened.
30“Then will appear the sign of the Son of Man in heaven.
34 Truly I tell you, this generation will certainly not pass away until all these things have happened. Matthew 24:22,30 & 34

YES! The generation that witnessed all these composite signs!

MaxInDHouse:

YES! The generation that witnessed all these composite signs!

All the distress Jesus stated were all fulfilled till 70 AD and Jesus said

22“If those days had not been cut short, no one would survive, but for the sake of the elect those days will be shortened.
29“Immediately after the distress of those days
“ ‘the sun will be darkened,
and the moon will not give its light;
the stars will fall from the sky,
and the heavenly bodies will be shaken.’
30“Then will appear the sign of the Son of Man in heaven.
34 Truly I tell you, this generation will certainly not pass away until all these things have happened. Matthew 24:22,29,30 & 34

MindHacker9000:

All the distress Jesus stated were all fulfilled till 70 AD

That's a misconception my friend!

MaxInDHouse:

That's a misconception my friend!

How?

MindHacker9000:

How?

Before we proceed do you believe Jesus truly exist and lived during the first century?

It is certain Jesus is not the Jewish Messiah. He did not meet any of the requirements of a Messiah.

Assuming he was, for the sake of argument, did God ever say the Messiah was coming to die for sins? NO.

MaxInDHouse:

Before we proceed do you believe Jesus truly exist and lived during the first century?

I do and the Romans who were occupying Israel at that time have historical records of Him as a magician and His followers as superstitious followers.

Ask yourself if truly Jesus performs all those miracles you believe he did, do you think the Romans would not have taken Him to Rome and for their military missions so that He can feed all their soldiers with one loaf of bread and two fishes

MindHacker9000:

I do and the Romans who were occupying Israel at that time have historical records of Him as a magician and His followers as superstitious followers.
Ask yourself if truly Jesus performs all those miracles you believe he did, do you think the Romans would not have taken Him to Rome and for their military missions so that He can feed all their soldiers with one loaf of bread and two fishes

Do you think political world powers value such a person?
Well you have the example of Moses in the Bible, despite the fact that he grew up with Ramses in the same palace that never moved Ramses to welcome him with all his powers.
So what makes you think that Rome the world power of that time will value Jesus when they also have their own magic practicing priests?

MindHacker9000:


I do and the Romans who were occupying Israel at that time have historical records of Him as a magician and His followers as superstitious followers.

Ask yourself if truly Jesus performs all thos
e miracles you believe he did, do you think the Romans would not have taken Him to Rome and for their military missions so that He can feed all their soldiers with one loaf of bread and two fishes

This is Bart .one of the leading researchers in New Testament texts. This is what he has to say

sonmvayina:

This is Bart .one of the leading researchers in New Testament texts. This is what he has to say

More revelation in this video of how the Romans invented Jesus


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmEScIUcvz0

MaxInDHouse:

YES! The generation that witnessed all these composite signs!

All the distress Jesus stated were all fulfilled till 70 AD and Jesus said

22“If those days had not been cut short, no one would survive, but for the sake of the elect those days will be shortened.
29“Immediately after the distress of those days
“ ‘the sun will be darkened,
and the moon will not give its light;
the stars will fall from the sky,
and the heavenly bodies will be shaken.’
30“Then will appear the sign of the Son of Man in heaven.
34 Truly I tell you, this generation will certainly not pass away until all these things have happened. Matthew 24:22,29,30 & 34

MaxInDHouse:

That's a misconception my friend!

MaxInDHouse:

Before we proceed do you believe Jesus truly exist and lived during the first century?

I have responded to you but you have not given your reason as to why you feel "All the distress Jesus stated were all fulfilled till 70 AD" is a misconception

MindHacker9000:


All the distress Jesus stated were all fulfilled till 70 AD and Jesus said

22“If those days had not been cut short, no one would survive, but for the sake of the elect those days will be shortened.
29“Immediately after the distress of those days
“ ‘the sun will be darkened,
and the moon will not give its light;
the stars will fall from the sky,
and the heavenly bodies will be shaken.’
30“Then will appear the sign of the Son of Man in heaven.
34 Truly I tell you, this generation will certainly not pass away until all these things have happened. Matthew 24:22,29,30 & 34
I have responded to you but you have not given your reason as to why you feel "All the distress Jesus stated were all fulfilled till 70 AD" is a misconception

First of all give a direct answer YES or NO.
Do you believe that Jesus truly lived and said what was recorded as you're quoting it?

MindHacker9000:


Anyone that has studied the Old Testament properly will know that He does not meet the requirements of the Messiah promised in the Old Testament and will be right to doubt Him.

Please,for the purpose of clarity and enlightenment, kindly pinpoint to us the requirements found in the Old Testament that He didn't meet if you truly know what you just submitted.

Cabble4:

Please,for the purpose of clarity and enlightenment, kindly pinpoint to us the requirements found in the Old Testament that He didn't meet if you truly know what you just submitted.

Piont yours out first and I will show you He did not meet those requirements

MindHacker9000:
If Jesus was in Nigeria today will you doubt His is the Messiah prophesied about and let Him be crucified?

Hindsight is a wonderful thing

MindHacker9000:


Piont yours out first and I will show you He did not meet those requirements

I thought as much. Clinching on straws as usual. Never disappoints on their blind arguments. They know absolutely nothing about a subject but put up reckless argument just to seek cheap attention.
Next time don't say what you can not defend or substantiate when confronted. Meet a subject you are clueless, take a pass. No need for empty show up and ridicule yourself. My fifty cent.

Was Jesus famous in his lifetime?

The Gospels make it clear that throughout his career Jesus was the rock star of first-century Judea, even if we disregard the miraculous star, a multitude of heavenly angels, and gift-bearing wise men from afar attending his birth. In Matthew (4:24-25) we are told that his fame “went throughout all Syria” and that as he traveled throughout the region doing miracles, healing the sick and casting out devils, he and his entourage were followed by “great multitudes” of people from Galilee, and from the Decapolis (a Greco-Roman federation of ten cities southeast of the Sea of Galilee), and from Jerusalem, and from Judea, and from beyond Jordan. Mark 5:20 says one man even began to publish (or proclaim) in the Decapolis the great things Jesus had done for him. A few of his more high-profile healings: raising the daughter of Jairus, one of the synagogue officials, from the dead (Matt. 9:18, Luke 8:41-42); healing the servant of a Roman Centurion in Capernaum (Matt. 8:5-13) and the son of a royal official (John 4:46-53). In addition, he delivered many sermons to great multitudes of people up and down the region of Judea, amazing all with his teachings. So with all this attention focused on him and his incredible achievements from cradle to grave, how is it that we have no contemporary record of any of this? After having won the admiration of royal officials, Roman leaders, and Synagogue officials, how is it that he wasn’t whisked off to the royal court, or even Rome itself? How is it that none of his astounding new teachings were recorded by anyone at the time? We have no trace or mention of Jesus’ exploits anywhere until the New Testament Gospels are written decades later. And outside of them, there is no mention of Jesus whatsoever for nearly a century after Jesus’ alleged death. This is a staggering omission, and totally at odds with the picture given to us by the Gospels.

Cabble4:

Please,for the purpose of clarity and enlightenment, kindly pinpoint to us the requirements found in the Old Testament that He didn't meet if you truly know what you just submitted.

Let me help..
What is the Messiah supposed to accomplish? One of the central themes of biblical prophecy is the promise of a future age of perfection characterized by universal peace and recognition of God. (Isaiah 2:1-4, 32:15-18, 60:15-18; Zephaniah 3:9; Hosea 2:20-22; Amos 9:13-15; Micah 4:1-4; Zechariah 8:23, 14:9; Jeremiah 31:33-34)

Specifically, the Bible says he will:

1. Build the Third Temple (Ezekiel 37:26-28).
Gather all Jews back to the Land of Israel (Isaiah 43:5-6).
2. Usher in an era of world peace, and end all hatred, oppression, suffering and disease. As it says: "Nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall man learn war anymore." (Isaiah 2:4)
3. Spread universal knowledge of the God of Israel, which will unite humanity as one. As it says: "God will be King over all the world – on that day, God will be One and His Name will be One" (Zechariah 14:9).
If an individual fails to fulfill even one of these conditions, then he cannot be the Messiah.

Because no one has ever fulfilled the Bible's description of this future King, Jews still await the coming of the Messiah. All past Messianic claimants, including Jesus of Nazareth, Bar Cochba and Shabbtai Tzvi have been rejected.

Christians counter that Jesus will fulfill these in the Second Coming. Jewish sources show that the Messiah will fulfill the prophecies outright; in the Bible no concept of a second coming exists.

sonmvayina:
Was Jesus famous in his lifetime?

The Gospels make it clear that throughout his career Jesus was the rock star of first-century Judea, even if we disregard the miraculous star, a multitude of heavenly angels, and gift-bearing wise men from afar attending his birth. In Matthew (4:24-25) we are told that his fame “went throughout all Syria” and that as he traveled throughout the region doing miracles, healing the sick and casting out devils, he and his entourage were followed by “great multitudes” of people from Galilee, and from the Decapolis (a Greco-Roman federation of ten cities southeast of the Sea of Galilee), and from Jerusalem, and from Judea, and from beyond Jordan. Mark 5:20 says one man even began to publish (or proclaim) in the Decapolis the great things Jesus had done for him. A few of his more high-profile healings: raising the daughter of Jairus, one of the synagogue officials, from the dead (Matt. 9:18, Luke 8:41-42); healing the servant of a Roman Centurion in Capernaum (Matt. 8:5-13) and the son of a royal official (John 4:46-53). In addition, he delivered many sermons to great multitudes of people up and down the region of Judea, amazing all with his teachings.

You are very correct Jesus was a rock star and nowhere near the prophecy in Isaiah 53

And yet all these jokers selling a fake gospel will claim that He was the one prophesied about in Isaiah 53:2-3
"He had no beauty or majesty to attract us to him,
nothing in his appearance that we should desire him."
3He was despised and rejected by mankind,
a man of suffering, and familiar with pain.
Like one from whom people hide their faces
he was despised, and we held him in low esteem.

MindHacker9000:


You are very correct Jesus was a rock star and nowhere near the prophecy in Isaiah 53

And yet all these jokers selling a fake gospel will claim that He was the one prophesied about in Isaiah 53:2-3
"He had no beauty or majesty to attract us to him,
nothing in his appearance that we should desire him."
3He was despised and rejected by mankind,
a man of suffering, and familiar with pain.
Like one from whom people hide their faces
he was despised, and we held him in low esteem.

Isaiah 53 is about a suffering servant.

More than 7 times prior to chapter 53 Isaiah told us the servant is Israel...

I wonder why people are mischievous?