tctrills:

My brother God is not man that gets offended over questions. Just calm down leave it for God to decide my judgment ok

Therefore, you Fear Not The Lord and even seek to subject Him to ridicule and insult.

Thank God that He hath said
"Behold, the day of the Lord is coming,
Cruel, with fury and burning anger..
For that day belongs to the Lord God of hosts,
A day of vengeance, so as to avenge Himself on His foes;"

O Lord, Please Come Quickly and Bring Judgement to all evils.!

Dtruthspeaker:


Therefore, you Fear Not The Lord and even seek to subject Him to ridicule and insult.

Thank God that He hath said
"Behold, the day of the Lord is coming,
Cruel, with fury and burning anger..
For that day belongs to the Lord God of hosts,
A day of vengeance, so as to avenge Himself on His foes;"

O Lord, Please Come Quickly and Bring Judgement to all evils.!

I once met a pastor like you who got angry when he couldn't answer my questions and he started fighting me.

Thanks for your advice but no thanks I would keep asking questions to both God and man

tctrills:

I would be happy if you can clarify that. That might help us understand the 2 scriptures

The first born used in colossians 1 vv15 means pre-eminence

While the firstborn used for Israel means God first choice.

Amos 3:2 You only have I known of all the families of the earth: therefore I will punish you for all your iniquities.

Israel is the first nation God chosed to be his own

tctrills:
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Even if we go by your answer, Israel isn't the first born among men. Many more older brothers before isreal bUT the in the verse God called isreal his firstborn so let's deal with that first:

Now you want to bring in another topic when clearly everyone knows that Ishmael was an usurping bastard and therefore not the Legitimate First Born.

Steep:

The first born used in colossians 1 vv15 means pre-eminence

While the firstborn used for Israel means God first choice.

Amos 3:2 You only have I known of all the families of the earth: therefore I will punish you for all your iniquities.

Israel is the first nation God chosed to be his own

Ok, thanks for your answer. It makes some sense. But why then use the word firstborn when actually trying to say something entirely different?

Dtruthspeaker:


Therefore, you Fear Not The Lord and even seek to subject Him to ridicule and insult.

Thank God that He hath said
"Behold, the day of the Lord is coming,
Cruel, with fury and burning anger..
For that day belongs to the Lord God of hosts,
A day of vengeance, so as to avenge Himself on His foes;"

O Lord, Please Come Quickly and Bring Judgement to all evils.!

Amen, brother, Amen.

Dtruthspeaker:


Now you want to bring in another topic when clearly everyone knows that Ishmael was an usurping bastard and therefore not the Legitimate First Born.

Forget about Ishmael. Let's not talk about Abrahams Children.
We are talking of God calling Israel his firstborn not Abraham's firstborn.

tctrills:

I once met a pastor like you who got angry when he couldn't answer my questions and he started fighting me.

Thanks for your advice but no thanks I would keep asking questions to both God and man

Who would not be angry when you unprovokedly and wickedly seek to insult and ridicule a Friend who has done you no harm?

O Lord God, Tarry Not, and let Judgement fall upon all thy enemies as Thou hath Said!

truespeak:

Amen, brother, Amen.

Amen form me too

tctrills:

Forget about Ishmael. Let's not talk about Abrahams Children.
We are talking of God calling Israel his firstborn not Abraham's firstborn.

Israel is Abraham's son and therefore inseparable! He did not come down from heaven.

Dtruthspeaker:


Who would not be angry when you unprovokedly and wickedly seek to insult and ridicule a Friend who has done you no harm?

O Lord God, Tarry Not, and let Judgement fall upon all thy enemies as Thou hath Said!

My brother, leave judgment for God. If you can't answer the question, I understand, most people can't

tctrills:

Amen form me too

SEALED!

Dtruthspeaker:


Israel is Abraham's son and therefore inseparable!

God called Israel hi's firstborn that's the question I asked. If you choose to bring Abraham into this on problem but at least answer the question

truespeak:

SEALED!

Now let's go back to the topic

tctrills:

Ok, thanks for your answer. It makes some sense. But why then use the word firstborn when actually trying to say something entirely different?

I believe the ise of the word firstborn is because the kind of relationship God desire to have with us is that of a family, that is why God is always describe as father and Jesus describe himself as a son, meaning even withing the trinity there is a kind of family relationship.

Steep:
I believe the ise of the word firstborn is because the kind of relationship God desire to have with us is that of a family, that is why God is always describe as father and Jesus describe himself as a son, meaning even withing the trinity there is a kind of family relationship.

Isn't God the actual Father of Jesus Christ?

tctrills:

My brother, leave judgment for God. If you can't answer the question, I understand, most people can't

I have already answered all and I add "O Lord, Please Tarry Not, Arise and Arrive and let thy enemies be destroyed forever with thy Judgements!

Dtruthspeaker:


I have already answered all and I add "O Lord, Please Tarry Not, Arise and Arrive and let thy enemies be destroyed forever with thy Judgements!

Good 4 you. You clearly have no answer to the simple question. Anyway, I knew you wouldn't. It's not the kind of question your members ask you in church

tctrills:

God called Israel hi's firstborn that's the question I asked. If you choose to bring Abraham into this on problem but at least answer the question

I have answered and you asked other questions which I answered that brought you here.

So now you are unable to proceed and have no other seemingly reasonable question to ask.

So no road!

tctrills:

Isn't God the actual Father of Jesus Christ?

Actual father in what sense?

tctrills:
Good 4 you. You clearly have no answer to the simple question. Anyway, I knew you wouldn't. It's not the kind of question your members ask you in church

Not after the thread clearly shows that I answered all the questions you asked till you have no more.

That is why it is called a thread!

Steep:
Actual father in what sense?

the bible calls Jesus Christ his begotten son

Dtruthspeaker:


Not after the thread clearly shows that I answered all the questions you asked till you have no more.

You never answer. The question was simple, is Isreal's God's firstborn or is Jesus the Firstborn. You never even attempted it.
Like I said you are not used to questions like this

tctrills:
the bible calls Jesus Christ his begotten son

the only Begotten son of God because he only has a unique relationship with the Father, it has nothing to do with a literal birth.

tctrills:

You never answer. The question was simple, is Isreal's God's firstborn or is Jesus the Firstborn. You never even attempted it.
Like I said you are not used to questions like this

The thread and its trail proves it already, you simply cannot believe that it has ended this abruptly and you are not able to perpetrate your evil.

Dtruthspeaker:


The thread and its trail proves it already, you simply cannot believe that it has ended this abruptly and you are not able to perpetrate your evil.

22 And thou shalt say unto Pharaoh, Thus saith the Lord, Israel is my son, even my firstborn

Steep:
the only Begotten son of God because he only has a unique relationship with the Father, it has nothing to do with a literal birth.

Begotten actually means literal birth. A child is either a begotten son or an adopted son

tctrills:

22 And thou shalt say unto Pharaoh, Thus saith the Lord, Israel is my son, even my firstborn

I answered at the beginning of my trail and thread and you ran out of questions, so no road!

Dtruthspeaker:


I answered at the beginning of my trail and thread and you ran out of questions, so no road!

It's fun to see you run from my question as always. Anyway thank. I enjoy doing this to you.
We both know you are a smart guy so don't feign ignorance because we both know you're not a fool no need to pretend.

tctrills:

It's fun to see you run from my question as always. Anyway thank. I enjoy doing this to you

It was great to see you run out of questions after I had settled them all such that you have nothing left therefore, i am free to depart!

Dtruthspeaker:


It was great to see you run out of questions after I had settled them all such that you have nothing left therefore, i am free to depart!

Enjoy the rest of your day brother. One love

Steep:
God chose Israel first and then through Israel to reach out to every nation, this also meant God dealt more harshly with the firstborn because they suppose to know better. I am not sure you race can survive this, God blessed us too, so we could know him and seek for him.

Yes, you niggers are the last born bastards. Worthless weaklings who assent to their own alleged inferiority.

Some Jews created a god, placed themselves above all humanity, and stupid niggers are busy venerating them.

A wise man said by diet and education, people can be made fierce or meek, masterful or slavish, cowardly or brave.

The steady diet of Christianity(and that Arab disease called islam) has definitely made you people slavish.

Go ahead and tell me one more time about your Jew masters! Fucking niggers