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Re: HISTORY - January 15 1966 Coup: Why They Called It An Igbo Coup — Mbazulike Amec by DMerciful(m): 8:27pm On Jan 30, 2022 |
Nigeria was already drifting. If there was no mistrust hitherto, such a coup shouldn't change the trajectory of a country that was united before. Coup was common across African nations in those days. Nigeria is like the tower of Babel, can never work! Ojiofor: |
Re: HISTORY - January 15 1966 Coup: Why They Called It An Igbo Coup — Mbazulike Amec by aribisala0(m): 8:31pm On Jan 30, 2022 |
gidgiddy: No other coup was as selectively murderous The Eboes slaughtered other peoples' leaders sparing their own, and when Ironsi was in charge he failed to bring the coup plotters to book 7 Likes 1 Share |
Re: HISTORY - January 15 1966 Coup: Why They Called It An Igbo Coup — Mbazulike Amec by Christistruth00: 8:31pm On Jan 30, 2022 |
Re: HISTORY - January 15 1966 Coup: Why They Called It An Igbo Coup — Mbazulike Amec by Ojiofor: 8:32pm On Jan 30, 2022 |
DMerciful: Nigeria was drifting to where exactly? Did the military intervention made the situation better or worse?That is the question.Nigeria would have done far better without that stupid coup. 5 Likes |
Re: HISTORY - January 15 1966 Coup: Why They Called It An Igbo Coup — Mbazulike Amec by DMerciful(m): 8:35pm On Jan 30, 2022 |
Aguiyi Ironsi spent just 6 months. How come Gowon couldn't manage the country afterwards? The West was too blind to see the game plan of the North using Igbo hate by the West as catalyst. Before 1966, the North with one region has 25% stake while the South with 3 regions had 75% stake. Gowon created 12 states from the 4 regions with 6 states in the North and 6 states in the South thereby reducing the stake of the south to 50% and increasing that of the North to 50%. The West cheered on insofar the Igbos are being dealt with, they're fine. Today the North has 19 states while the South has 17 states meaning the South that had 75% stake before the coup ended up the minority stakeholder. Yet the West cheered on insofar the Igbos are marginalized, they're fine. But the chicken will soon come home to roost! aribisala0: 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: HISTORY - January 15 1966 Coup: Why They Called It An Igbo Coup — Mbazulike Amec by aribisala0(m): 8:36pm On Jan 30, 2022 |
DMerciful:6 months was not enough to try the coup plotters? 6 Likes |
Re: HISTORY - January 15 1966 Coup: Why They Called It An Igbo Coup — Mbazulike Amec by aribisala0(m): 8:37pm On Jan 30, 2022 |
DMerciful:Your analysis is wrong The North did not have 25% stake. What do you mean by that? How many legislators were there in Parliament in 1960? How many were from the North? 4 Likes |
Re: HISTORY - January 15 1966 Coup: Why They Called It An Igbo Coup — Mbazulike Amec by DMerciful(m): 8:41pm On Jan 30, 2022 |
If they were voting or taking any decision by region, North had only one region while South had three so South had the upper hand. North through her military leaders moved the power from South to North while the Yorubas cheered on insofar Igbos were being dealt with, they were fine aribisala0: |
Re: HISTORY - January 15 1966 Coup: Why They Called It An Igbo Coup — Mbazulike Amec by DMerciful(m): 8:44pm On Jan 30, 2022 |
If not that coup, there would be another, it's inevitable. We are not meant to be one, we hate each other. There has been killings of Easterners living in the North in the 40s and 50s. I wonder why our founding fathers thought it wise to look over our hatred and distrust for each other to forge a single country when we could have gotten 3 countries at independence Ojiofor: 1 Like |
Re: HISTORY - January 15 1966 Coup: Why They Called It An Igbo Coup — Mbazulike Amec by Idiko1: 8:52pm On Jan 30, 2022 |
Echile:At the bolded, anybody who conjectured those crap is fundamentally deranged. This is one of the reasons Nigeria is termed a basket of fools. 1 Like |
Re: HISTORY - January 15 1966 Coup: Why They Called It An Igbo Coup — Mbazulike Amec by Ojiofor: 8:57pm On Jan 30, 2022 |
DMerciful: So what did the coup achieved? Why are you trying to justify a failed careless and reckless adventure of some young naive and irresponsible soldiers who went on killing spree that led to subsequent counter coups and civil war that handed Nigeria over to corrupt ill educated Northern soldiers?You are talking as if Nigeria was a creation of native people of geographical space called Nigeria.Nigeria was created by Britain for their own interest and the so called regions was also created by them. 2 Likes |
Re: HISTORY - January 15 1966 Coup: Why They Called It An Igbo Coup — Mbazulike Amec by Idiko1: 8:57pm On Jan 30, 2022 |
ViperAda: I guess other ranks involved in the coup plot were not human beings since they were not Igbo too. |
Re: HISTORY - January 15 1966 Coup: Why They Called It An Igbo Coup — Mbazulike Amec by T9ksy(m): 8:58pm On Jan 30, 2022 |
DMerciful: Your founding fathers were so fixated on the prospect of dominating the potential country that will ensue hence they were willing to sacrifice a few of their kith and kins for a greater majority. 3 Likes |
Re: HISTORY - January 15 1966 Coup: Why They Called It An Igbo Coup — Mbazulike Amec by DMerciful(m): 9:04pm On Jan 30, 2022 |
If I agree with you, what about the founding fathers of the West and North? Awolowo said oil and water cannot mix yet went ahead with it. I really do not understand! You made it look like Igbos are the only one not happy in Nigeria, heck no, most of the nationalities are not happy however some are not ambitious to do anything about it. This country CAN NEVER WORK! T9ksy: 1 Like |
Re: HISTORY - January 15 1966 Coup: Why They Called It An Igbo Coup — Mbazulike Amec by DMerciful(m): 9:10pm On Jan 30, 2022 |
You used a word I like YOUNG NAIVE soldiers! If they're young and naive and prone to youthful exuberance, why then did we make their reckless coup an entire Igbo coup? At what point dud the Igbo race decide that these soldiers should represent them in carrying out a coup? Because there was already hate and mistrust, it quickly spiraled into an ethnic tragedy and has continued till this day. There were killing of Igbos in the 40s and 50s in the North so our founding fathers were living in fooools paradise when they thought they could make a nation out of people who despise each other! Ojiofor: |
Re: HISTORY - January 15 1966 Coup: Why They Called It An Igbo Coup — Mbazulike Amec by DMerciful(m): 9:13pm On Jan 30, 2022 |
I cannot spoonfeed you. The North currently have 19 states meaning they have more influence over what happens in the national assembly. This wasn't so before the Gowon divided Nigeria while the West cheered on aribisala0: |
Re: HISTORY - January 15 1966 Coup: Why They Called It An Igbo Coup — Mbazulike Amec by aribisala0(m): 9:19pm On Jan 30, 2022 |
DMerciful:The North have only succeeded in doing what everyone believes the Eboes were trying to do in 1966 2 Likes |
Re: HISTORY - January 15 1966 Coup: Why They Called It An Igbo Coup — Mbazulike Amec by DMerciful(m): 9:30pm On Jan 30, 2022 |
Like I said insofar Yorubas feel Igbos are being dealt with, they're fine even if the North buries the country! Igbos dominated Nigeria in the 50s and 60s because they're the most hardworking. This is why today, inspite of coming out of a civil war they lost, they're doing better economically than the other tribes. Same way heat hardens the egg and softens the potato, Igbos are made of intrinsic survival instincts. Nnamdi Kanu is hated for talking about Biafra restoration and you wonder why the people who hates the Igbos hate to see them go. Imagine Nigeria fought Biafrans for 3yrs to ensure they remain in Nigeria only to start hating and marginalizing them aribisala0: 1 Like |
Re: HISTORY - January 15 1966 Coup: Why They Called It An Igbo Coup — Mbazulike Amec by aribisala0(m): 9:35pm On Jan 30, 2022 |
DMerciful: I forgive you because you are young and ignorant The 1953 census resulted in the following seat allocation North 174 East 73 West 65 At the National Assembly There was no such forum for "voting or taking decision by region". That is just your imagination. The Parliament was supreme Let me educate you a bit about the parliamentary system Every person contested election in his or her constituency ad was elected as a legislator. This included Zik Awolowo Balewa Bello who were all leaders of their parties They ALL WON LOCAL elections wherever they came from and it was an indirect system of governance( just like delegates at political party primaries) They won election individually where they came from not nationally After elections in the parliamentary system the government is formed by the party with overall majority. If no party has majority two or more can do a deal to form the government. Bello had 148 Zik had 89 Awo had 79 Zik and Awo could have formed the government if they could do a deal. They could not and Zik went with Bello. They formed the government and Bello sent his protege , Balewa to Lagos to head the government but Bello had control over the party and chose to stay in Kaduna as Regional Premier not wanting to go to Lagos. It was an INDIRECT SYSTEM OF GOVERMENT. Most if not all Minsters were first elected as members of the Parliament as was the Prime Minster Those numbers above for Zik were not all from the East . His party NCNC was very strong in what is now the Plateau Area and Northern Cameroon which was allowed to secede. Whilst some southern minorities went with NPC in the federal parliament So your assumptions about how decisions were made is wrong also the history is wrong Zik took a strategic decision to align with the North rather than the West .Accept responsibility and concede that right to others # Shortly afterwards Awolowo was thrown in jail. Put yourself in the shoes of the West from that history. Why should we trust you or want to have anything to do with you in politics? 3 Likes |
Re: HISTORY - January 15 1966 Coup: Why They Called It An Igbo Coup — Mbazulike Amec by aribisala0(m): 9:42pm On Jan 30, 2022 |
DMerciful:You are excellent at projection your foibles on to other people https://www.nairaland.com/745731/yoruba-marginalization-elders-met-jonathan Have a revision of this. Whenever things favor you it is merit when it is others it is nepotism You generally never see good in other folk and are seen as toxic 4 Likes |
Re: HISTORY - January 15 1966 Coup: Why They Called It An Igbo Coup — Mbazulike Amec by DMerciful(m): 9:44pm On Jan 30, 2022 |
You and I know that the GEJ govt tried to make Mulikat speaker but Tinubu ACN voted against her to have propaganda to use against GEJ that Yorubas were not represented in his govt. These are facts! aribisala0: |
Re: HISTORY - January 15 1966 Coup: Why They Called It An Igbo Coup — Mbazulike Amec by aribisala0(m): 9:45pm On Jan 30, 2022 |
DMerciful: Just imagine the kind of things a presumably sensible person would say? "Ibos are the most hardworking" You always project the emotional intelligence of an 8 year old > You are totally oblivious to the consequences of that kind of speech and how that is at the core of your difficulty wherever you are Most hardworking indeed When you talk like that there will be consequences that s common sense which is uncommon among you 2 Likes |
Re: HISTORY - January 15 1966 Coup: Why They Called It An Igbo Coup — Mbazulike Amec by DMerciful(m): 9:49pm On Jan 30, 2022 |
Awolowo being thrown in jail was instigated by Akintola and a possible treason he allegedly committed. So why do you think the North has 19 states today and South 17? Is the 19 states beneficial to the North politically or not? aribisala0: |
Re: HISTORY - January 15 1966 Coup: Why They Called It An Igbo Coup — Mbazulike Amec by aribisala0(m): 9:49pm On Jan 30, 2022 |
DMerciful:Yes Mulikat But that was not the point Your claim about Yorubas being cool with "Ibo being dealt with" .That is the point I am sure you can recall all what your brothers had to say and likely contributed with your various monikers that is the point That you go aroun accusing people of what you are most guilty of Mulikat The Koko is that most of you blame and hate Yoruba for your Biafra defeat and are hoping to see the Yoruba humiliated like you were THAT IS THE KOKO 4 Likes |
Re: HISTORY - January 15 1966 Coup: Why They Called It An Igbo Coup — Mbazulike Amec by DMerciful(m): 9:53pm On Jan 30, 2022 |
You know you're a goal post shifter right? SE took DEPUTY senate president, Yorubas were supported to take Speaker and not deputy yet they rejected it through Tinubu so they could have propaganda to sell. You showed a link about Yoruba elders complaining of GEJ marginalization and I told you Tinubu caused it. You agreed but found a way to shift the goal post! aribisala0: |
Re: HISTORY - January 15 1966 Coup: Why They Called It An Igbo Coup — Mbazulike Amec by DMerciful(m): 9:55pm On Jan 30, 2022 |
It is what it is. It's understandable if you don't like Igbos because they say it as it is but truth is always bitter. If Nigeria should to go merit base and scrap quota system, Igbos would dominate all sectors of the economy! aribisala0: |
Re: HISTORY - January 15 1966 Coup: Why They Called It An Igbo Coup — Mbazulike Amec by aribisala0(m): 9:59pm On Jan 30, 2022 |
DMerciful:Change of subject at independence your ancestors agreed to an arrangement where the North had 174 to 138 seats at the federal Parliament. Which is a higher ratio than 19/17 however the north were able to do this 19/17 because they dominated the military So ultimately they have achieved through the military what we believe Eboes were trying to achieve through that first coup 4 Likes |
Re: HISTORY - January 15 1966 Coup: Why They Called It An Igbo Coup — Mbazulike Amec by aribisala0(m): 10:02pm On Jan 30, 2022 |
DMerciful:You are free to say what you like and people are free to react how they like Stop whining like bitches about like hate and all that crap. Nigeria is a tough neighbourhood so spare us the whining. You are the smartest and most hardworking being dominated by lazy dumbos is that not funny 2 Likes |
Re: HISTORY - January 15 1966 Coup: Why They Called It An Igbo Coup — Mbazulike Amec by DMerciful(m): 10:03pm On Jan 30, 2022 |
That first coup was like 56yrs ago and we still talk about it like there hasn't been other coup in Nigeria. My question to you is why are you mad when Igbos say they want out of Nigeria? You don't like them, they don't like you so there should be mutual willingness to separate aribisala0: |
Re: HISTORY - January 15 1966 Coup: Why They Called It An Igbo Coup — Mbazulike Amec by DMerciful(m): 10:05pm On Jan 30, 2022 |
The North are not dominating and they know it. Dominating is not about few people in power while the majority are in poverty and living under extreme insecurity aribisala0: |
Re: HISTORY - January 15 1966 Coup: Why They Called It An Igbo Coup — Mbazulike Amec by aribisala0(m): 10:07pm On Jan 30, 2022 |
DMerciful:How and where am I mad when Igbos say they want out? Some Yorubas say the same that they want out that does not mean they have a mandate> . That some Igbos say something is very different from "Igbos say something" So what do you mean by "Igbos say they want out" ? Have you appointed a spokesman or advocate ? Talk is cheap. If you are serious you know what to do. 3 Likes |
Re: HISTORY - January 15 1966 Coup: Why They Called It An Igbo Coup — Mbazulike Amec by aribisala0(m): 10:10pm On Jan 30, 2022 |
DMerciful:My bad The smart hardworking Eboes are dominating 1 Like |
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