mrvitalis:

So you are saying there is nothing like zoning ?

In 2011 when North insisted on completing their term based on zoning, Igbos were at the forefront of "There is no zoning in Nigeria's constitution".
Rest abeg.

aribisala0:
You can force a union.
That was the point of the American Civil war
That was the point of the Biafra war
The point of the Sri Lanka war
The Chechnya war etc

There is no right to call for a referendum

Why are you like this na? You are obviously trying to be nice with the guy.
You even went too far away in your citations.
You should have just brutally reminded him that his own brother Ojukwu forced a union by crushing Isaac Adaka Boro's Niger Delta Republic declaration and forcing him back to Azikiwe's fraudulent one-Nigeria, that Aguiyi Ironsi forced a union by promulgation of his Anti-secession Decree, and that Azikiwe forced a union by declaring that the unity of Nigeria is perpetual and non-negotiable, and afterwards instigating the British overlords to threaten Awolowo and Enahoro with charges of treason if they would not desist from pushing for secession clause.

aribisala0:
You can force a union.
That was the point of the American Civil war
That was the point of the Biafra war
The point of the Sri Lanka war
The Chechnya war etc

There is no right to call for a referendum

there is no right for referendum..really?

Jimasun:

In 2011 when North insisted on completing their term based on zoning, Igbos were at the forefront of "There is no zoning in Nigeria's constitution".
Rest abeg.

I am happy there are people who still remember this vividly.
Ogbulafor stood on principles to insist that if PDP would last long in power, the sacred zoning agreement of the party must be held sacrosanct hence Jonathan should allow a Northerner fly the party's flag in 2011 no matter how inconvenient that might be for Jonathan and his supporter regions, but Jonathan went to mine out a false embezzlement allegation against him and used that to instigate his sack as PDP chairman to the applause of Ogbulafor's own Igbo brothers. The court would later exonerate Ogbulafor of that allegation. So when I now hear the SE talking about equity and fairness as regards zoning, I don't get it at all.

sharpsecret:
there is no right for referendum..really?

The unity of Nigeria is perpetual and non-negotiable and as long as there is no provision for secession in our constitution, Ojukwu committed treason for declaring secession..... Nnamdi Azikiwe in an interview in 1975.

Jimasun:

In 2011 when North insisted on completing their term based on zoning, Igbos were at the forefront of "There is no zoning in Nigeria's constitution".
Rest abeg.

I can't believe I am on Nairaland, for the first time in a very long time. I am reading arguments for and against a tribal political discussion, without contributor's abusing and playing blatant tribalism.
I hope other political discussions on Nairaland, would be this intellectual and rancour free.

Blue3k:


Source: http://saharareporters.com/2022/02/18/2023-its-either-you-give-southeasterners-presidency-or-we-leave-igbo-elders-tell

Please hurry up and leave, the Igbos/Ibos/Igbos are not getting the President position and cannot be the President of a country they are not part of. Don’t bother to wait because that is not going to happen, you can pack and leave now.

johnmartus:
Okoro stop threatening you will not do anything coward.

What do you know! Just ethnic bashing. Wait and see what happens after 2023. Then you will know if it's empty threat.

sharpsecret:
there is no right for referendum..really?

No there is no such right .

Ei incumbio probatio qui dicit on qui negat

It is incumbent on he who declares to prove not he who disputes

You say there is a right . Educate us
Where is this right enshrined
If you you have been attending the IPOB online church you are probably conditioned with that story from the IPOB bible.

It does not exist anywhere.

The only rights you have are those the Nigerian state permits in the Nigerian Constitution

orisa37:
It-is-either-you-give-southeasterners-presidency-or-we-leave-igbo-elders-tell.

NO.

NIGERIA CAN'T AFFORD THE LUXURY OF IGBO PRESIDENCY IMMEDIATELY AFTER THE SPOILATION BUHARI HAS INFLICTED ON NIGERIA.

THE NASS SHOULD NOW SCRAP THE EXCLUSIVE LIST OF THE 1999 CONSTITUTION.

RESTRUCTURE THE CURRENT 36 CONSTITUTIONAL STATES TO 42 FULLY AUTONOMOUS POLICING RESOURCING AND ELECTIONEERING CONSTITUTIONAL STATES

OR OUTRIGHTLY MAKE THEM 42 INDEPENDENT STATES WITH FULL POWERS INVESTED IN THEM TO MERGE, COOPERATE COMBINE AND RECREATE AS THEY WISH AMONG THEMSELVES

PAY TITHES OF 10% OF THEIR ANNUAL REVENUE EARNINGS TO FEDERAL GOVERNMENT PURSE TO RUN FOREIGN AFFAIRS, MILITARY, ON EQUALITY OF STATES BASIS, AND ENDORSING THEIR TREATIES WITH THE OUTSIDE WORLD FOR NIGERIA

EACH CONSTITUTIONAL STATE SHALL CONSTITUTE AN SPSC, A STATE POLICY SERVICES COUNCIL, AN SPC A STATE POLICE COMMISSION, AN SRC, A STATE RESOURCE COMMISSION AND A SEC, A STATE ELECTIONEERING COMMISSION TO PLAN AND CONTROL THE STATE WITH THEIR RESPECTIVE GOVERNORS.

CC: NASS, STATE ASSEMBLIES, Osinbajo, OBASANJO, GOWON. IBB ABDULSALAMI ABUBARKA, AFENIFERE OHANAEZE PANDEF MIDDLE BELT GROUP, AREWA, NAIRALAND MODS, AND IPOB.

ABOVE FOR YOUR INFORMATION PLEASE.

FROM ORUNTO27.

Good. Suggestions worth considering. It's panacea to Nigeria's leadership crisis.

Okay

Omodua:
What do you know! Just ethnic bashing. Wait and see what happens after 2023. Then you will know if it's empty threat.

adamsmith914:
Nobody is giving you any imaginary Biafra fraud, no one is giving you any President of Nigeria either.

You can go back into that your cold corner & continue wailing.

Nonsense Selfish Elementals, why not a Bini, Urhobo or Itsekiri Man for President, or have we been begging & insisting to other Nigerian tribes that they must give us the hot seat by force?

Misguided fellow spewing nonsense. If your region wants to play second fiddle in Nigeria, you want Igbo to do same. You have no ambition. So,keep quiet!

Igbos are not threatening anybody but objectively making it clear to you that it's their turn, of which the major ethnic groups of this country are aware of.
Since the return to democracy of which they championed for this country they have been sidelined, marginalized and pushed to the wall. That's a pure injustice!
There are two options they can choose from:
1. Allow them clinch the presidential position - to fixed the country, the broken relationship
2. Allow them to leave peacefully - to become their own country!

It's no big deal to be frank! I would go with the first choice even though Buhari has messed up the country 50,000 times what it was before. But I trust the good hands of great Igbo leaders, they can perform and align Nigeria back to prosperity lines.

aribisala0:


No there is no such right .

Ei incumbio probatio qui dicit on qui negat

It is incumbent on he who declares to prove not he who disputes

You say there is a right . Educate us
Where is this right enshrined
If you you have been attending the IPOB online church you are probably conditioned with that story from the IPOB bible.

It does not exist anywhere.

The only rights you have are those the Nigerian state permits in the Nigerian Constitution

so referendum is prohibited?

Blue3k:


Source: http://saharareporters.com/2022/02/18/2023-its-either-you-give-southeasterners-presidency-or-we-leave-igbo-elders-tell

While Tinubu is going round the country soliciting for support and votes, some elders are holding a pity party and crying, for position, they should be in the potopoto fighting for,abi they think that's how leadership falls on the laps of the unwilling. Kwantinue

sharpsecret:
so referendum is prohibited?

Did I say that?
I refer you back to the statement

If you are not a Nigerian you have no right to enter Nigeria
Is the corollary that non Nigerians are prohibited from entering Nigeria?


Logic 101
Go and study the legal definition of "RIGHT" what is a right?
There is no right t a l leflendum

Let's tell our self the truth, the must hated tribe in Nigeria is the igbos, a Yoruba man will rather vote buhari for third teno than an Igbo man to be president, any party that takes SE candidate will fail because no tribe will want Igbo to rule, why do u think atiku lost in 2019?

That's what IPOB is cashing in on.

Elbeamer:
Let's tell our self the truth, the must hated tribe in Nigeria is the igbos, a Yoruba man will rather vote buhari for third teno than an Igbo man to be president, any party that takes SE candidate will fail because no tribe will want Igbo to rule, why do u think atiku lost in 2019?

That's what IPOB is cashing in on.

Why pick on Yoruba ? Are they the only Nigerans
You are speculatng there is no historical evidence to back your claim but here is evidence that Eboes did not vote Abiola

So look in the mirror if you are looking for hate

What you should have said is
NOT
The most hated
BUT
The most hateful
You hate Yorubas and in your minds expect that they must hate you

That s the psychological reality
Yoruba vote based on SELF INTEREST. and typically that means voting for a Yoruba person . Self love rathe than hatred for anyone else and in the past that has always meant being in opposition so we have learnt how to mind our business comfortably WITHOUT being part of the FG
Imagine a Yoruba president withholding funds of Lagos state and handcuffing a Yoruba IG so for us there is no particular gain in being president

We are the best prepared to breakaway today and so the only thing we want from presidency is restructuring .You cannot deliver that

aribisala0:
Why pick on Yoruba ? Are they the only Nigerans
You are speculatng there is no historical evidence to back your claim but here is evidence that Eboes did not vote Abiola

So look in the mirror if you are looking for hate

What you should have said is
NOT
The most hated
BUT
The most hateful
You hate Yorubas and in your minds expect that they must hate you

That s the psychological reality
Yoruba vote based on SELF INTEREST. and typically that means voting for a Yoruba person . Self love rathe than hatred for anyone else and in the past that has always meant being in opposition so we have learnt how to mind our business comfortably WITHOUT being part of the FG
Imagine a Yoruba president withholding funds of Lagos state and handcuffing a Yoruba IG so for us there is no particular gain in being president

We are the best prepared to breakaway today and so the only thing we want from presidency is restructuring .You cannot deliver that

Outstanding!

mrvitalis:

So onu hasn't sowed enough ?

I thought the reason Tinubu is hated is because he singularly without onu, amachi et all install Buhari.

aribisala0:
Did I say that?
I refer you back to the statement

If you are not a Nigerian you have no right to enter Nigeria
Is the corollary that non Nigerians are prohibited from entering Nigeria?


Logic 101
Go and study the legal definition of "RIGHT" what is a right?
There is no right t a l leflendum

but referendum is not prohibited...case close

adamsmith914:
Nobody is giving you any imaginary Biafra fraud, no one is giving you any President of Nigeria either.

You can go back into that your cold corner & continue wailing.

Nonsense Selfish Elementals, why not a Bini, Urhobo or Itsekiri Man for President, or have we been begging & insisting to other Nigerian tribes that they must give us the hot seat by force?

A fool at 40 is a fool forever. As una no wan get sense, continue wallowing in darkness. Wetin consign me

.

These flat headed morons should leave already. But they are too weak to leave, keep begging.

Blue3k:


Source: http://saharareporters.com/2022/02/18/2023-its-either-you-give-southeasterners-presidency-or-we-leave-igbo-elders-tell

Let them go! We are also tired of them as Nigerians.

Good. Suggestions worth considering. It's panacea to Nigeria's leadership crisis.

Thanks. It's also panacea to PRODUCTIVITY, PROFITABILITY AND GROWTH.

This is exactly the mindset of many Igbos, especially the IPOB apologists.

They dont even know what they want.

You want to threaten seccesion unless you are made president when even Igbos dont vote Igbomen to be presidents.

How many LGA did Moghalu,Oby,Utomi,Okorocha etc win in the previous elections?

Confused lot.

sharpsecret:
but referendum is not prohibited...case close

You have no light to a lefelendum . You can beg for it but you might not get it.
No different from a beggar on the street .Giving to beggars may or may not prohibited but you have no right to beg

adamsmith914:
Nobody is giving you any imaginary Biafra fraud, no one is giving you any President of Nigeria either.

You can go back into that your cold corner & continue wailing.

Nonsense Selfish Elementals, why not a Bini, Urhobo or Itsekiri Man for President, or have we been begging & insisting to other Nigerian tribes that they must give us the hot seat by force?

When it comes to Igbo matter you remember other ethnic groups. You didn’t say so when they brought Buhari on us. Where is Goodluck from again?

amuwo1980:

Just like the Yorubas planned and schemed and bombed their way to power right ? ANPP and PDP presented Yorubas as their presidential candidates, do same now to igbos simple and short , why u lying .

dont understand you ,bro just read my write up again.

adamsmith914:
Nobody is giving you any imaginary Biafra fraud, no one is giving you any President of Nigeria either.

You can go back into that your cold corner & continue wailing.

Nonsense Selfish Elementals, why not a Bini, Urhobo or Itsekiri Man for President, or have we been begging & insisting to other Nigerian tribes that they must give us the hot seat by force?

naira simply means Never Allow Igbo Rule Again.