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frog12:
even by the way you write, i can tell you are an expert in nothing.

FERNANDEZISBACK:
The question is what's his issue with Ukraine if not his selfish benefit..it's just like hurting and torturing your wife cos of her choice for the betterment of her life against you..

Putin wants the old Soviet glory nothing else..he has no right to invade a sovereign country for no logical reason..
Modified: Ukraine insisted willingly to join NATO and it has been for a while now..no one is forcing them.. understand that...

I covered this on my show weeks ago—the most relevant piece of historical information was how affected Putin was by what happened to Gaddafi, (as executed by NATO & Western governments. Putin saw Ukraine as Libya 2.0. Putin’s speech from yesterday is worth a read in its entirety. pic.twitter.com/YTDBzPW9Gf

— Candace Owens (@RealCandaceO) February 24, 2022

alabo1:
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You obviously don't know your History and only listen to Western rhetoric. Listen when the Soviet Union collapsed there was an understanding that the West through NATO would not extend beyond Germany since East Germany a former Russian controlled area was now reunited with West Germany.

However within half a decade a good deal of the Baltic States and former Soviet Republics has joined NATO giving the West the right to place weapons on Russian Borders. However what broke the Camels back was the attempt to bring Ukraine into NATO in 2014 by orchestrating the overthrow of an elected government violently and recognising the legitimacy of the coup plotters (Western Hypocrisy at its peak). The end point is that Russia would have lost Svestopol it's only warm sea port effectively ceasing to be a Naval Power and also losing one of its most important Buffer zones in the event of an invasion (the other being Belarus - check your map for a better understanding).
Putin is only doing what any true Nationalist Leader will do- protecting National Interests. Remember that the US was ready to go into an all out War with Russia over missile placement in Cuba? Cuba is farther away from the US than Ukraine. Do you get the point now?
Today the US has missile bases in NATO countries all around Russia yet they call Russia the aggressor. Are you aware Putin himself offered to join NATO but was rejected.

Bottom line the West (America) needs an aggressor to fund its Military Industrial Complex and needs periodic wars and tensions for this. This crisis will lead to increased arms sales and increased Military spending. However the West knows Putin has won and nothing will change that - He cannot be stopped Military and Sanctions will have minimal effect as Russia has since removed dependence from Western supply chains and Financing..

Furthermore he is using an angle that the West used in former Yugoslavia by recognising self declared Republics and answering their call for Military aid(Remember Kosovo?). So there is a precedent.

Once more he has checkmates them. All hail the Grandmaster. Peace

FERNANDEZISBACK:
You are still talking nonsense..the majority of the crimeans are ethnic russians and support the idea to stay in Russia...still doesn't change the fact that it was a forceful invasion..

FERNANDEZISBACK:
The question is what's his issue with Ukraine if not his selfish benefit..it's just like hurting and torturing your wife cos of her choice for the betterment of her life against you..

Putin wants the old Soviet glory nothing else..he has no right to invade a sovereign country for no logical reason..
Modified: Ukraine insisted willingly to join NATO and it has been for a while now..no one is forcing them.. understand that...

FERNANDEZISBACK:
And so?

MERCHANDISER:
There will be a new world order where Russia and China will be world leaders and communism will trump democracy all over the world

Rugaria:
For no reason?
The problem here is that you are giving NATO and the West a free pass. In your mind, they're infallible. You really think the West never saw this crises coming? This crises have been brewing for over a decade. The West knows what they're doing. Russia knows what they are doing too. Russia understands Western manipulations and scheming and are basically trying to upstage them.

You have to understand how NATO works. Once you're a member of NATO, if you're attacked, all members of NATO have a duty to join hands to defend you. It means that the attackers will be facing the military arsenal of the whole of western Europe and others that are members of NATO. NATO is the biggest fighting block as at today and represents the biggest military danger to countries like Russia and China...

So what happens if Ukraine joins NATO and a president of Ukraine starts a sort of war with Russia? NATO will have to do something to defend Ukraine. That means that all of a sudden, Russia will have to fight The USA, France, Britain, Germany, Italy, Spain , Portugal etc. These are some of the most sophisticated militaries in the world. You're going to face them over a minor squabble with your neighbor? Right at your borders! Especially a neighbor that has ethnic Russians as her citizens too?

This is very simple. I don't know why it looks so confusing to some. Russia is trying to get Ukraine within her sphere of influence. That's what you do when you're a super power. The Americans do it, the USSR did it, China is trying to do it. If you leave your flanks open, your competitors will enter an dismantle you. If you doubt this, try to make Mexico a strategic ally of Russia or China, .. The Americans will react even more ferociously than Russia is doing today to that. During the Venezuelan crises, The US did whatever it could to make sure that Russia never had a military post in Venezuela. Yet Venezuela has no border crossings with The United States. How much more a country with land borders with the US..

malakaimoscondo:
u didn't read the post and if u did, u have problem with understanding

Rugaria:
Very correct assessment.
The aggressors are the ones playing victims now..
NATO has to explain why it wants Russias immediate neighbor as a member.

jidxin:
your illustrations doest tally with the current situation at all. Putin has no right to invade a sovereign state. If his country is threatened then it should be within its own boarder. This isn't the right way to safeguard his country it will only escalate matters.

Pareyz:
Ukraine exited the Soviet Union after the fall of the Soviet Union in 1991 along with Belarus. Since then it's been a sovereign state which has the right to freedom and totally free from external control. So, clearly it's no longer part of Russia. Ukraine has the right to mingle and have alliance with NATO or whatever organization with which they want to create ties. Russia should understand this, no matter how difficult it might seem for them, and stop crying over spilt milk.

NATO and other countries should intervene swiftly now that it's still very early to nip the war in the bud before it goes out of hand.

DCatt:
You just can't help your fish brain.

If they are ethnic Russians and voted to go with Russia, they should be held hostage? It seems you are often held against your will in life and you think it's the right thing. Check a word call FREEDOM!

Rugaria:
For no reason?
The problem here is that you are giving NATO and the West a free pass. In your mind, they're infallible. You really think the West never saw this crises coming? This crises have been brewing for over a decade. The West knows what they're doing. Russia knows what they are doing too. Russia understands Western manipulations and scheming and are basically trying to upstage them.

You have to understand how NATO works. Once you're a member of NATO, if you're attacked, all members of NATO have a duty to join hands to defend you. It means that the attackers will be facing the military arsenal of the whole of western Europe and others that are members of NATO. NATO is the biggest fighting block as at today and represents the biggest military danger to countries like Russia and China...

So what happens if Ukraine joins NATO and a president of Ukraine starts a sort of war with Russia? NATO will have to do something to defend Ukraine. That means that all of a sudden, Russia will have to fight The USA, France, Britain, Germany, Italy, Spain , Portugal etc. These are some of the most sophisticated militaries in the world. You're going to face them over a minor squabble with your neighbor? Right at your borders! Especially a neighbor that has ethnic Russians as her citizens too?

This is very simple. I don't know why it looks so confusing to some. Russia is trying to get Ukraine within her sphere of influence. That's what you do when you're a super power. The Americans do it, the USSR did it, China is trying to do it. If you leave your flanks open, your competitors will enter an dismantle you. If you doubt this, try to make Mexico a strategic ally of Russia or China, .. The Americans will react even more ferociously than Russia is doing today to that. During the Venezuelan crises, The US did whatever it could to make sure that Russia never had a military post in Venezuela. Yet Venezuela has no border crossings with The United States. How much more a country with land borders with the US..

JohnBullMySon:
He's a very foolish man. I wonder why people even hail him. Very foolish and predictable.

If he wanted global influence, he would have kept Russia on the part of industrialization and maintained the country's democracy. Democracy is not a western thing. It is about involving the people you govern. He has missed it and any influence Russia ever had, they'll lose it badly.

He should sit down so that America will school him. To invade a sovereign country, there must be sellable reasons to do so. And you must have the support of the citizens majority. Military is the last step towards tilting a country, not the first step.

Let's see how he will take over Ukraine with almost the entire country and most of the world against him. The worst he can do is to bomb the country till their military is degraded. If he sends ground troops, they'll die in numbers.

The Russian are about to relearn the same lesson they learned in Afghanistan.

Rugaria:
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Taiwan has always been Chinese.. Don't let Western propaganda fool you. Taiwan is not Ukraine. Taiwan is Chinese and Ukraine is not Russian. Taiwan, Hong Kong and Macao reminds Russia of the enermous levels the west had to go in order to undermine her when she was weak and poor. China has got a good case to demand the return of Taiwan. The British are still in Falklands and The French controls West Africa and polenesia, yet they're the ones condemning Russia.

Democratic West? Is there anything democratic about the current world order? You live in Africa that has been more or else designated a minefield, a continent being rapaciously raped by Western multinationals and agencies and you're talking of a democratic world order? What is democratic about Nigerias politics today as is supported by the West? I think most Africans suffer the political equivalent of the Stockholm syndrome in their rabid obeisance to western dictates..[/s]

Rugaria:
For no reason?
The problem here is that you are giving NATO and the West a free pass. In your mind, they're infallible. You really think the West never saw this crises coming? This crises have been brewing for over a decade. The West knows what they're doing. Russia knows what they are doing too. Russia understands Western manipulations and scheming and are basically trying to upstage them.

You have to understand how NATO works. Once you're a member of NATO, if you're attacked, all members of NATO have a duty to join hands to defend you. It means that the attackers will be facing the military arsenal of the whole of western Europe and others that are members of NATO. NATO is the biggest fighting block as at today and represents the biggest military danger to countries like Russia and China...

So what happens if Ukraine joins NATO and a president of Ukraine starts a sort of war with Russia? NATO will have to do something to defend Ukraine. That means that all of a sudden, Russia will have to fight The USA, France, Britain, Germany, Italy, Spain , Portugal etc. These are some of the most sophisticated militaries in the world. You're going to face them over a minor squabble with your neighbor? Right at your borders! Especially a neighbor that has ethnic Russians as her citizens too?

This is very simple. I don't know why it looks so confusing to some. Russia is trying to get Ukraine within her sphere of influence. That's what you do when you're a super power. The Americans do it, the USSR did it, China is trying to do it. If you leave your flanks open, your competitors will enter an dismantle you. If you doubt this, try to make Mexico a strategic ally of Russia or China, .. The Americans will react even more ferociously than Russia is doing today to that. During the Venezuelan crises, The US did whatever it could to make sure that Russia never had a military post in Venezuela. Yet Venezuela has no border crossings with The United States. How much more a country with land borders with the US..

FERNANDEZISBACK:
And that's the same freedom Russia is giving to Ukraine huh?

ivandragon:
Putin simply has an expansionist agenda & would not stop until he reestablishes the Soviet Union.

NATO is a defence pact, not an aggressive one & if Russia doesn't want Ukraine joining NATO, it can do so by other means including political & economic sanctions rather than a full scale war.

Also, since the balkanisation of the SU, Russia has always threatened Ukraine, hence, Ukraine's intention to join NATO. The US & its NATO allies have never pushed Ukraine to join NATO. Putin is just power mad.

Further more, the silence of China is telling... it is watching closely. If Russia succeeds in getting Ukraine without much resistance from the West, China is going to take Taiwan & Tibet too...

The domino effect is that North Korea will invade South Korea, Pakistan will invade the disputed Kahmir region with India. Some Arab nations will attack Israel. Other smaller conflicts designed to grab more land will ensue...

That said, powers (empires) rise & fall. China seems to be the one to replace the declining dominance of the US & Russia is aware of this. But the question I always ask those who insult US is this, would you prefer to stay in an autocratic China or a democratic US?

ednut1:
Nato should allow Russia and China to build bases in Cuba, Venezuela and Mexico. them go gree

DCatt:
There have been fighting there for 8 years and the deepstate is about to increase attacks on those new republics, so Putin went their to keep peace as he said. The bombings are done by the deepstate. It's called false flags. They will soon use chemical weaponslikhey did in Syriaand blamed Assad for it.

InoGetJoy:
In simple language, na rubbish you dey talk. USSR won't be of any advantage to Russia. In fact, it'll be an economic drain for them

FERNANDEZISBACK:
He wants to keep peace by invading and seizing a sovereign country?

Nato should allow Russia and China to build bases in Cuba, Venezuela and Mexico. them go gree