Welcome, Guest: Register On Nairaland / LOGIN! / Trending / Recent / New
Stats: 3,152,107 members, 7,814,884 topics. Date: Wednesday, 01 May 2024 at 10:05 PM

Bolton Sheds Light On Why Putin Didn't Invade Ukraine Under Trump - Foreign Affairs - Nairaland

Nairaland Forum / Nairaland / General / Politics / Foreign Affairs / Bolton Sheds Light On Why Putin Didn't Invade Ukraine Under Trump (36980 Views)

Pictures Of Destructions Made In Kyiv As Russia Invade Ukraine's Capital / Why Putin Is Invading Ukraine? (The Cable) / Russia Set To Invade Ukraine At 1AM With Massive Missile Blitz & 200,000 Troops (2) (3) (4)

(1) (2) (3) (4) (5) (6) (7) (Reply) (Go Down)

Bolton Sheds Light On Why Putin Didn't Invade Ukraine Under Trump by God1000(m): 10:28pm On Mar 20, 2022
John Bolton served as national security adviser under Donald trump

About a week ago, Donald Trump was apparently feeling a bit defensive after his praise for Vladimir Putin created some political troubles for him. It led him to release a ridiculous written statement in which he suggested he was responsible for rescuing NATO.

The only thing threatening NATO’s existence was Trump himself, who not only repeatedly disparaged the alliance, but who, on several occasions, expressed an interest in abandoning NATO altogether. By all accounts, it was a plan he intended to follow through on in a second term.

It was against this backdrop that John Bolton, who served as the White House national security adviser during the former president’s term, told The Washington Post late last week that he believes Trump would’ve withdrawn the United States from the NATO alliance in a second term. That wasn’t a surprising observation, but take note of its possible relevance:

In a second Trump term, I think he may well have withdrawn from NATO,” Bolton said. “And I think [Russian President Vladimir] Putin was waiting for that.”

For Trump and his allies, it’s a point of great pride that Putin didn’t invade any of his neighbors during the Republican’s term in the White House. The Russian leader launched offenses against bordering countries in 2008, 2014, and 2022, but between January 2017 and January 2021, Putin showed restraint.

This, we’ve been told to believe, is clear proof of ... something.

The standard line from the right is built on two pillars. The first is the idea that Trump was so strong and unpredictable, the Russian authoritarian was simply too afraid to provoke the Republican. The second is the belief that when the United States withdrew from Afghanistan, it signaled to Moscow that we’re weak and indifferent to international military offenses.

The former argument is so plainly ridiculous, it’s surprising Republicans would even peddle it. Trump spent four years going to almost comical lengths to make Putin happy, to the point that the then-American president’s own director of national intelligence later admitted he feared Trump had been compromised by the Kremlin.

As for the Afghanistan claim — a favorite of a great many leading Republicans — it isn’t much better. Putin’s preoccupation with Ukraine goes back a lot further than last summer. Indeed, there’s evidence that Russia began building up military forces around the Ukrainian border months before U.S. forces left Kabul.

The idea that Putin would’ve altered his yearslong ambitions in Ukraine if only President Biden had agreed to keep thousands of American troops in Afghanistan is plainly at odds with everything we know about recent events. (What’s more, if the right were serious about this line of rhetorical attack, it might lead to some awkward questions about the geopolitical effects of Trump’s February 2020 agreement with the Taliban to end the decades’ long war. Did this signal weakness to Moscow?)

So, if the standard Republican explanation is unserious, what’s the actual reason?

In a piece that generated an unusual amount of hate mail, I recently made the case that Putin showed restraint during the Trump era because the Russian authoritarian saw no need to mess with a good thing. The basic idea — which I was glad to see others endorse — is that Trump’s actions were in line with Moscow’s goals, and an invasion of Ukraine risked upsetting the balance.

Putin wanted to undermine the NATO alliance, and Trump undermined the NATO alliance. Putin wanted to weaken the E.U., and Trump made little effort to express his disdain for the E.U. Putin wanted to help authoritarians, and Trump cozied up to authoritarians. Putin wanted to hurt Ukraine, and Trump launched an extortion scheme that threatened to hurt Ukraine. Putin wanted to weaken the U.S. political system, and Trump was unnervingly aggressive in trying to weaken the U.S. political system.

All of which is to say, why would Putin rock the boat when Trump was already steering it in the Kremlin’s preferred direction?


But Bolton has presented a related explanation that’s quite credible: Putin saw an American president moving in a direction Moscow liked, and the Russian leader was waiting for Trump to finish the job.

In case this isn't obvious, this should not be seen as any kind of endorsement of Bolton's hyper-hawkish worldview, which I've been harshly critical of on many occasions over many years.

Rather, Bolton's perspective on stories like these matters precisely because of his influential role on Team Trump.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.msnbc.com/msnbc/amp/rcna19045

25 Likes 1 Share

Re: Bolton Sheds Light On Why Putin Didn't Invade Ukraine Under Trump by God1000(m): 10:35pm On Mar 20, 2022
This is simply the home and uncomfortable truth why Putin showed restraint during trump administration, any other explanation is risible.

Some delusional and misquided Nigerians still believe otherwise though.

The current crop of republicans in America are very unpatriotic

Donald trump is a cad, blacksheep and blackguard who made America a mockery and laughingstock, Nigerians praising him are clowns

Donald trump orchestrated insurrection in the capitol during the joint session of the Congress which led to the death of many innocent people, he became the first US president to be impeached twice due to his several misdemeanors

92 Likes 12 Shares

Re: Bolton Sheds Light On Why Putin Didn't Invade Ukraine Under Trump by Mofun: 11:22pm On Mar 20, 2022
So it was a well-calculated and thoroughly-strategized invasion. I just hope it ends soon anyway.

9 Likes 2 Shares

Re: Bolton Sheds Light On Why Putin Didn't Invade Ukraine Under Trump by God1000(m): 11:24pm On Mar 20, 2022
Mofun:
So it was a well-calculated and thoroughly-strategized invasion. I just hope it ends soon anyway.
Yeah, I think trump defeat accelerated the invasion

16 Likes 3 Shares

Re: Bolton Sheds Light On Why Putin Didn't Invade Ukraine Under Trump by Agbegbaorogboye: 11:29pm On Mar 20, 2022
God1000:
This is simply the home and uncomfortable truth why Putin showed restrain during trump administration, any other explanation is risible.

Some delusional and misquided Nigerians still believe otherwise though

This one's head has been configured by CNN

188 Likes 10 Shares

Re: Bolton Sheds Light On Why Putin Didn't Invade Ukraine Under Trump by God1000(m): 11:33pm On Mar 20, 2022
Agbegbaorogboye:


This one's head has been configured by CNN
see this one, this article isn't from CNN you schmuck, Donald trump former national security adviser wrote it.

65 Likes 4 Shares

Re: Bolton Sheds Light On Why Putin Didn't Invade Ukraine Under Trump by Agbegbaorogboye: 11:35pm On Mar 20, 2022
God1000:
see this one, this article isn't from CNN you schmuck, Donald trump former national security adviser wrote it.


Paid hacks you mean? Getat with that. It's a tissue of lies

55 Likes 5 Shares

Re: Bolton Sheds Light On Why Putin Didn't Invade Ukraine Under Trump by thesicilian: 11:49pm On Mar 20, 2022
I don't agree though. Trump was a strong leader, and strong leaders may not fear themselves, but they tend to respect one another. There's no way Putin would have invaded Ukraine when no one could predict how trump would react. By now Trump might have sent warplanes and special forces not to assist Ukraine, but to attack Russia directly.
Everyone knows biden is a weakling who wouldn't be able to react even if someone killed his dog and stole his car.

168 Likes 17 Shares

Re: Bolton Sheds Light On Why Putin Didn't Invade Ukraine Under Trump by AndroBlaze: 1:13am On Mar 21, 2022
God1000:
John Bolton served as national security adviser under Donald trump


About a week ago, Donald Trump was apparently feeling a bit defensive after his praise for Vladimir Putin created some political troubles for him. It led him to release a ridiculous written statement in which he suggested he was responsible for rescuing NATO.

The only thing threatening NATO’s existence was Trump himself, who not only repeatedly disparaged the alliance, but who, on several occasions, expressed an interest in abandoning NATO altogether. By all accounts, it was a plan he intended to follow through on in a second term.


It was against this backdrop that John Bolton, who served as the White House national security adviser during the former president’s term, told The Washington Post late last week that he believes Trump would’ve withdrawn the United States from the NATO alliance in a second term. That wasn’t a surprising observation, but take note of its possible relevance:

In a second Trump term, I think he may well have withdrawn from NATO,” Bolton said. “And I think [Russian President Vladimir] Putin was waiting for that.”


For Trump and his allies, it’s a point of great pride that Putin didn’t invade any of his neighbors during the Republican’s term in the White House. The Russian leader launched offenses against bordering countries in 2008, 2014, and 2022, but between January 2017 and January 2021, Putin showed restraint.

This, we’ve been told to believe, is clear proof of ... something.

The standard line from the right is built on two pillars. The first is the idea that Trump was so strong and unpredictable, the Russian authoritarian was simply too afraid to provoke the Republican. The second is the belief that when the United States withdrew from Afghanistan, it signaled to Moscow that we’re weak and indifferent to international military offenses.

The former argument is so plainly ridiculous, it’s surprising Republicans would even peddle it. Trump spent four years going to almost comical lengths to make Putin happy, to the point that the then-American president’s own director of national intelligence later admitted he feared Trump had been compromised by the Kremlin.

As for the Afghanistan claim — a favorite of a great many leading Republicans — it isn’t much better. Putin’s preoccupation with Ukraine goes back a lot further than last summer. Indeed, there’s evidence that Russia began building up military forces around the Ukrainian border months before U.S. forces left Kabul.

The idea that Putin would’ve altered his yearslong ambitions in Ukraine if only President Biden had agreed to keep thousands of American troops in Afghanistan is plainly at odds with everything we know about recent events. (What’s more, if the right were serious about this line of rhetorical attack, it might lead to some awkward questions about the geopolitical effects of Trump’s February 2020 agreement with the Taliban to end the decades’ long war. Did this signal weakness to Moscow?)

So, if the standard Republican explanation is unserious, what’s the actual reason?

In a piece that generated an unusual amount of hate mail, I recently made the case that Putin showed restraint during the Trump era because the Russian authoritarian saw no need to mess with a good thing. The basic idea — which I was glad to see others endorse — is that Trump’s actions were in line with Moscow’s goals, and an invasion of Ukraine risked upsetting the balance.

Putin wanted to undermine the NATO alliance, and Trump undermined the NATO alliance. Putin wanted to weaken the E.U., and Trump made little effort to express his disdain for the E.U. Putin wanted to help authoritarians, and Trump cozied up to authoritarians. Putin wanted to hurt Ukraine, and Trump launched an extortion scheme that threatened to hurt Ukraine. Putin wanted to weaken the U.S. political system, and Trump was unnervingly aggressive in trying to weaken the U.S. political system.

All of which is to say, why would Putin rock the boat when Trump was already steering it in the Kremlin’s preferred direction?



But Bolton has presented a related explanation that’s quite credible: Putin saw an American president moving in a direction Moscow liked, and the Russian leader was waiting for Trump to finish the job.

In case this isn't obvious, this should not be seen as any kind of endorsement of Bolton's hyper-hawkish worldview, which I've been harshly critical of on many occasions over many years.

Rather, Bolton's perspective on stories like these matters precisely because of his influential role on Team Trump


Seun, lalasticlala, mynd44


https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/amp/rcna19045&ved=2ahUKEwiNg42EztX2AhVqhP0HHd6NBbEQFnoECAMQAQ&usg=AOvVaw1X0MWGFsnCJFl-BTn4bd6J

This makes a lot of sense.

13 Likes 1 Share

Re: Bolton Sheds Light On Why Putin Didn't Invade Ukraine Under Trump by CriticMaestro: 1:43am On Mar 21, 2022
John Bolton is just a grumpy old man... Trump sent tomohawk missiles to syria were Russians are present.
Trump didnt weaken nato, he simply made sure all members live up to their commitments.
Whatever you are, Whoever you may be, If you are not American and not Pro-American Trump will turn his back on you.

73 Likes 4 Shares

Re: Bolton Sheds Light On Why Putin Didn't Invade Ukraine Under Trump by Nobody: 4:14am On Mar 21, 2022
What NATO under Obama and Biden does is sleep, drink and eat, they contribute little or nothing, but Trump made it equal contribution. They expect America to do all the work and send it to every NATO member...

49 Likes

Re: Bolton Sheds Light On Why Putin Didn't Invade Ukraine Under Trump by Aufbauh(m): 4:21am On Mar 21, 2022
I've discovered that Most Nigeria Trump supporters are supporting Putin's invasion of Ukraine simply because Trump was voted out by Americans. Smh!

13 Likes 6 Shares

Re: Bolton Sheds Light On Why Putin Didn't Invade Ukraine Under Trump by michlins(m): 5:19am On Mar 21, 2022
To think that some people who haven't seen or had close encounter with Trump will argue with a former NSA is comical but it is internet where everyone is a political expert

21 Likes 5 Shares

Re: Bolton Sheds Light On Why Putin Didn't Invade Ukraine Under Trump by Kingpin1000: 5:48am On Mar 21, 2022
Trump was an Unpredictable volatile man.
You all saw what He did to Iran.. the world started shouting, Trump shouldn't start a world war.
Putin wouldn't have invaded ,had Trump been President. We act like we have short term memory.
We all know Trump was like a Mad dog and as a rival, you cannot predict what He can do,but you will always know what He is capable of doing.

58 Likes 3 Shares

Re: Bolton Sheds Light On Why Putin Didn't Invade Ukraine Under Trump by BobbieZion(m): 9:16am On Mar 21, 2022
Biden is a vegetable like what we have in Naija.

Trump is cocky,brave and unpredictable....Those are qualities of a firm leader.

But the Democrats, Muslims,racist blacks,LGBT's and atheists think otherwise.

They called Trump all sort of names from an Islamophobist to a racist to a mysogynist.... all in an effort to blackmail him.
Don't forget Syria and Lybia under Obama.
I am a conservative,I believe in Republicans.

34 Likes 4 Shares

Re: Bolton Sheds Light On Why Putin Didn't Invade Ukraine Under Trump by LocalStandard1(m): 9:24am On Mar 21, 2022
thesicilian:
I don't agree though. Trump was a strong leader, and strong leaders may not fear themselves, but they tend to respect one another. There's no way Putin would have invaded Ukraine when no one could predict how trump would react. By now Trump might have sent warplanes and special forces not to assist Ukraine, but to attack Russia directly.
Everyone knows biden is a weakling who wouldn't be able to react even if someone killed his dog and stole his car.

Hahahahahaha.... Lol. Am at the gym right now and can't stop laughing at ur analogy.

You just quoted John Wick albeit accurately. I love it....

12 Likes 2 Shares

Re: Bolton Sheds Light On Why Putin Didn't Invade Ukraine Under Trump by descartes400: 9:44am On Mar 21, 2022
CriticMaestro:
John Bolton is just a grumpy old man... Trump sent tomohawk missiles to syria were Russians are present.
Trump didnt weaken nato, he simply made sure all members live up to their commitments.
Whatever you are, Whoever you may be, If you are not American and not Pro-American Trump will turn his back on you.

Bolton is a War Monger!

2 Likes

Re: Bolton Sheds Light On Why Putin Didn't Invade Ukraine Under Trump by God1000(m): 11:30am On Mar 21, 2022
thesicilian:
I don't agree though. Trump was a strong leader, and strong leaders may not fear themselves, but they tend to respect one another. There's no way Putin would have invaded Ukraine when no one could predict how trump would react. By now Trump might have sent warplanes and special forces not to assist Ukraine, but to attack Russia directly.
Everyone knows biden is a weakling who wouldn't be able to react even if someone killed his dog and stole his car.
lol, the same trump that withheld military assistance to Ukraine that eventually led to his impeachment

10 Likes 2 Shares

Re: Bolton Sheds Light On Why Putin Didn't Invade Ukraine Under Trump by God1000(m): 11:31am On Mar 21, 2022
michlins:
To think that some people who haven't seen or had close encounter with Trump will argue with a former NSA is comical but it is internet where everyone is a political expert
don't mind some Nigerians with their noisome behaviour

6 Likes 1 Share

Re: Bolton Sheds Light On Why Putin Didn't Invade Ukraine Under Trump by Neddstark: 11:36am On Mar 21, 2022
The fall of the USA's international influence was simply the fall of Kabul to the Taliban's forces. That is the biggest disaster. It made the mighty USA look so weak. Why wouldn't China, Russia, Pakistan threaten USA if the Taliban can do so and go scot free.

7 Likes 1 Share

Re: Bolton Sheds Light On Why Putin Didn't Invade Ukraine Under Trump by ecolime(m): 12:30pm On Mar 21, 2022
Everyone knows Bolton is just a pained ass. Since he fell out with Trump and started hobnobbing with Democrats, his obsession with Trump is worse than that of Bode George on Tinubu after getting out of jail.

The truth is Biden is spineless. His shameless withdrawal at Afghanistan brought his weakness to the fore. Reason why everyone keeps beating him on his head.

Bolton can call Trump whatever he likes but definitely cannot call him a coward hence his extract below:

The standard line from the right is built on two pillars. The first is the idea that Trump was so strong and unpredictable, the Russian authoritarian was simply too afraid to provoke the Republican. The second is the belief that when the United States withdrew from Afghanistan, it signaled to Moscow that we’re weak and indifferent to international military offenses.

13 Likes 2 Shares

Re: Bolton Sheds Light On Why Putin Didn't Invade Ukraine Under Trump by iCauseTrouble: 12:31pm On Mar 21, 2022
sad
Re: Bolton Sheds Light On Why Putin Didn't Invade Ukraine Under Trump by HardMirror(m): 12:31pm On Mar 21, 2022
Shed light on why he didn't invade under Obama, under W Bush. Nonsense article

12 Likes 2 Shares

Re: Bolton Sheds Light On Why Putin Didn't Invade Ukraine Under Trump by SmartPolician: 12:32pm On Mar 21, 2022
Trump wouldn't let that war happen! smiley

6 Likes 2 Shares

Re: Bolton Sheds Light On Why Putin Didn't Invade Ukraine Under Trump by Iseoluwani: 12:32pm On Mar 21, 2022
Na because say trump ruthless nah

3 Likes 1 Share

Re: Bolton Sheds Light On Why Putin Didn't Invade Ukraine Under Trump by Nobody: 12:32pm On Mar 21, 2022
.

1 Like 1 Share

(1) (2) (3) (4) (5) (6) (7) (Reply)

Donald Trump Bombarded With Insults By Twitter Followers (Pics) / Inside Russia's Gigantic Vostochny Spaceport Under Construction (Pics, Video) / The Richest World Leaders

(Go Up)

Sections: politics (1) business autos (1) jobs (1) career education (1) romance computers phones travel sports fashion health
religion celebs tv-movies music-radio literature webmasters programming techmarket

Links: (1) (2) (3) (4) (5) (6) (7) (8) (9) (10)

Nairaland - Copyright © 2005 - 2024 Oluwaseun Osewa. All rights reserved. See How To Advertise. 51
Disclaimer: Every Nairaland member is solely responsible for anything that he/she posts or uploads on Nairaland.