Kelvin3476:
U ARE TALKING ABOUT THOSE FORMER SPANISH COLONISED COUNTRIES ?

Former? The internet is free, use it!

AnD Nigeria is taking side with the west I pity this country. They are begging Russia to complete ajaokuta steel, they went to Russia wen U.S refused sell weapon to us in our time of need. We will see

prettyboi1:


Former? The internet is free, use it!

U ARE DNT KNW MUCH JUST KEEP QUIET . THEY WERE FORMERLY COLONISED BY SPAIN BE4 SPAINISH-AMERICAN WAR THAT LEAD TO CHANGE OF COLONIES

True, we need mediators. Wise head.

ayindejimmy:
Mexico just want to be in negotiating terms with the US that's all.

What's Mexico's with Russia?

If the US close it's Mexican border, Mexico is doomed

The US can not take such arbitrary action, unless they are actually at war with Russia.

Kelvin3476:
U ARE DNT KNW MUCH JUST KEEP QUIET . THEY WERE FORMERLY COLONISED BY SPAIN BE4 SPAINISH-AMERICAN WAR THAT LEAD TO CHANGE OF COLONIES

Use your internet & stop being a confident ignoramus.
A search as simple as "who owns Puerto Rico?" will cure your ignorance yet you're afraid of searching for the truth.

tonididdy:

More people are starting to feel indifferent about the war .
Today a footballer refused to wear a "no to war" jersey, he was neither ukranian or Russian.

who was the footballer

WoundedLamb:


You guys saying don't seem to understand the relationship between Ukraine and Russia. Do you think Ukraine would be looking at NATO if Russia treated them like the US treats Canada? Russia practically pushed Ukraine to NATO by showing over and over again they've got no regards for Memoranda/pacts. It was a survival move for Ukraine. Ukraine gave up ALL thier nuclear weapons to Russia just to be left in peace. Russia signed never to harass them or violate thier sovereignty. This pact was continously violated by this same Russia. What would have the country do? Stay back and be oppressed into extinction? The leaders had to take a decision in the best interest of thier people. What Russia is asking of Ukraine is like pushing someone to the wall and asking them to break it and keep moving.

The only reason some people don't care about what Ukraine is going through is the grudges they've got against the West. But what they fail to understand is that they'd end up supporting oppression all over the world just cause the West are not saints. The only solution to this is one that ensures Russia will leave Ukraine in peace going forward. Just saying "don't join NATO" without addressing their concerns is not a solution but an oppression.

Most people use common sense to judge the situation in eastern europe rather than do little research to understand what is going on there.

Before 2014 and up till now, there are pro-Russians and pro-West in Ukraine. So in 2014, the pro-Russian government was overthrown by the pro-West. The current president Zelenszky was their leader. He became the president and started cracking down on the pro-Russians. TV stations & media houses belonging to the pro-Russians were closed, the owners were arrested. Government critics were areested. Many pro-Russians had to flee the country.

In the same year the pro-Russians in different part of Ukraine started demanding for independence. They started carrying arms against the government in different part of the country. In Crimea, Luhansk, Donetsk e.t.c.

The same thing happened in Egypt when Abdel Fattah Al-Sisi plotted a coup against the Morsi. Morsi took power when Mubarak was forced to step down by the Egyptians. Morsi an islamist became the president. Abdel Fattah Al-Sisi forcefully remove Morsi and locked him up. Then he started cracking down of the Islamists. Thousands were arrested. Many were killed. (Mohamed Aboutrika) The former Egyptian footballer and former african footballer of the was added to a terror list by his native Egypt for alleged ties to the outlawed Muslim Brotherhood.

Russia & Ukraine were good before 2014.

WoundedLamb:


Violation of the Minsk agreement was the beginning of hostility between the two countries? Hehe... what kind of people am I arguing with? Do you even know what the Minsk agreements is? How can the Minsk agreement be the genesis of the problem when the reason it was drafted in the first place was to end the war in Donbas? How can Minsk agreement be the genesis of the problem when the Donbas war it was meant to end even started after Crimea invasion? The Minsk was not even completed and it was never implemented. You see the problem, most of you just come here to argue cause it's probably fun to you not because you have any idea about the subject matter and y'all are so focused on America and the West that you're not paying attention to the intricate issues between the actual countries involved. Such a waste of time.

LOL, bla bla bla. You obviously don't know jack. Stop listening to CNN in your cave from Nigeria and go out to understand the background to what is happening. If Zelensky didn't violate Ukraine's part of the agreement which the two countries had earlier signed Putin would never have stroke. NATO's sudden supply of Missiles and weaponry on the back of the violation only made matters worse. I don't have the time to school you because you sound like someone who's arrogant yet empty.

tamdun:

And that's how they decieve Africa, they take ur resources and throw crumbs at u

Which Resources does the US take from Nigeria Why can’t you guys accept that Nigeria is a broke ass country? California has a little over 40ml population, and they spend more than the whole Nigeria yearly on their Budget, that is just one state.

So what exactly do you think in your tiny mind the whole US needs from Nigeria??

You guys need to keep quiet, Nigeria is a poor country surviving on foreign grants.

WoundedLamb:


You guys saying don't seem to understand the relationship between Ukraine and Russia. Do you think Ukraine would be looking at NATO if Russia treated them like the US treats Canada? Russia practically pushed Ukraine to NATO by showing over and over again they've got no regards for Memoranda/pacts. It was a survival move for Ukraine. Ukraine gave up ALL thier nuclear weapons to Russia just to be left in peace. Russia signed never to harass them or violate thier sovereignty. This pact was continously violated by this same Russia. What would have the country do? Stay back and be oppressed into extinction? The leaders had to take a decision in the best interest of thier people. What Russia is asking of Ukraine is like pushing someone to the wall and asking them to break it and keep moving.

The only reason some people don't care about what Ukraine is going through is the grudges they've got against the West. But what they fail to understand is that they'd end up supporting oppression all over the world just cause the West are not saints. The only solution to this is one that ensures Russia will leave Ukraine in peace going forward. Just saying "don't join NATO" without addressing their concerns is not a solution but an oppression.

The bolded is the reason most of them are supporting Russia's evil invasion and crime against humanity

2metrelaurie:
Natural resources you dim wit . Europe and america relies heavily of them tofunction

Ur imagination is poor...... Do ya research dunce

post=110673018:
There will always be a Judas shaaaaaaaaaaa

Getat with these nonsense pictures spamming Nairaland

Aboguede:


Please what is california gdp and what do they export.


U go just open ur mouth waaaah without basic knowledge of the subject or even ur own argument

Lamebrain check it online..

Fairmedia:

The US can not take such arbitrary action, unless they are actually at war with Russia.

I know. That would be a last resort.

But, just one phone call to Mexico's president to remind him he's in America not Europe will reset his brain

If Russia was a good neighbour Ukraine won't come to the US

Righteousness2:
Mexico understands what many do not!
Nomerica will likely be hit and Made Irrelevant. Mexico being there Neighbour does not want the Bear to join him with Nomerica...

See yourself, full with hate , yet you would come here preaching. You need to be saved. Try and get the true Salvation from Christ.

Oghene1st:
President Lopez Obrador says his country won’t take part in trying to punish Moscow over its attack on Ukraine



https://www.rt.com/news/550997-mexico-declines-to-sanction-russia/

A wise leader...

prettyboi1:


Use your internet & stop being a confident ignoramus.
A search as simple as "who owns Puerto Rico?" will cure your ignorance yet you're afraid of searching for the truth.

U ARE THE IGNORANCE ONE HERE.

wiseoneking:
What really do you small things know about this issue. You guys better keep to your corner and see as things unfolds. Mexico is like a state to united states. They really have to be extremely careful because they are heavily dependent on the US both in their agricultural export and millions of Mexican Americans that still have strong ties to their Homeland with probably enormous remittance to their economy. Well, to be neutral is one thing but they should just end there. Russia is not a modern state but a country that is ready to destroy herself and everyone. Thank God for NATO. Russia is actually a very poor country but a strong nuclear power. Russia, China, Iran and North Korea are four most dangerous nation you cannot toy with. I'm sure China is afraid because any economic punishment received by the modern states would be disastrous for them. The last thing China wants to experience now is anything that's gonna affect their economic power

Your comments reek high level of ignorance
Calling the 11th largest economy in the world poor says so much about your IQ
China was in a trade war with the US for years and won despite all odds.
You had better free yourself from mental slavery or better still read up to avoid spewing nonsense on cyberspace

JosephXavier:


France has influence in Africa on their colonies

Have you seen the French national team?
They all are blacks from Africa

Do you see how England have influence in Common wealth nations?

America rided on the back of Britain to get International influence

Do you know that countries like Portugal and Spain have more influence in international politics more than Russia

Argentina, Brazil and the likes of Mozambique, Angola, guinea, Cape Verde, Senegal in Africa were colonised by Portugal

Russia have no colonies and no international influence in either South America, Asia nor Africa and so they suck in international politics brother

What you said about USSR being formed through war was as a result of forging or forcing the neighbouring independent states to emerge into a unified state and that didn't go beyond Eastern Europe

Portugal colonized only Brazil in South America.

Bbbwings:

The propaganda is unreal.
I can't believe it.
Even Condoleezza is lecturing Americans about maintaining world peace.

Condoleeza Rice? When was she giving lectures? What makes you think Americans listen to anything Rice has to say?
Do you mean Kamala? :

KingOKON:
.

Putin's goat, tell us when USA invaded Cuba?

I think Google is your friend.


But if you are ignoramus, US invaded Cuba between 1959-1961 and.........

1stGenAmerican:


Condoleeza Rice? When was she giving lectures? What makes you think Americans listen to anything Rice has to say?
Do you mean Kamala? :

Condo was on fox news recently
Most Americans watch fox news

ayindejimmy:


I know. That would be a last resort.

But, just one phone call to Mexico's president to remind him he's in America not Europe will reset his brain

If Russia was a good neighbour Ukraine won't come to the US

who told you Russia was not a good neighbour?

Bbbwings:

Condo was on fox news recently
Most Americans watch fox news

No we don’t.

Softwareguy21:
who told you Russia was not a good neighbour?

Georgia the Baltic states of Estonia and Latvia

meobizy:
Na neutrality get me. Money sees no racism or other forms of bias.

wow. so u want to yansh Putin becuz he from Mexico...correct?...shame on u for bein a Gold difffer..everybody u wanto yansh
u want him to get u? AM SHOCKED!!!

1stGenAmerican:


No we don’t.

Are you white.

frowland:


I don’t know where you guys are, but the day I visited a friend in Ukraine 2016, I asked him ‘what da hell are you doing here’?.
Mehn! those guys are racist to a fault. You will eat as if you are in a zoo.
You can’t share bar with them, even a train ride na wahala.
I wonder what you guys see in that country with the kind of support I see for them here in NL - Maybe from uninformed folks.
I don’t blame some of them though; most are against Russia simply because they are America’s number one enemy (..the enemy of my enemy scenario).
But fuc’k Ukraine and their racism’ Mehn!
To be honest, I no fit support that country. They are on their own.

Man, you're ABSOLUTELY RIGHT!!.

I and a friend had the opportunity to trial with one vorskla FC.
Man,,this guys treated us like pieces of shiiit.

That's why am not even bothered about their war,,
Other nations have fought wars,,why would there's be different!?

Bbbwings:

Are you white.

No. And Black people don’t watch Fox.

WoundedLamb:


Sorry, your first sentence is ungrammatical and that makes it a bit difficult to understand. You might want to review it. Frankly, no offense.

That said, Russia was a signatory to the Budapest Memorandum and Russia violated that by invading Crimea even before referendum. It's not everything that has to be twisted for the sake of argument. Putin just has no regards for international pacts and this makes it hard to relate with him. Ukraine was not building any nuclear bomb. You think they'd give up all thier nuclear warheads (3rd in the world) just to start building petty bombs all over again? These are speculations and Russia never cited that as a reason for ignoring the agreement to invade Crimea. They clearly invaded Crimea for the sole purpose of annexing it while damning the consequences cause they knew Ukraine was helpless. That same year, they focused on Donbas and successfully disassociated them from Ukraine. Today, they're moving to finally carve them out. In what world is this fair, please? How many times will he disintegrate this country before y'all see that it's just not right? You think all these just happened by chance? Ukraine cried out in 2018 but the world ignored and now they're actively seeking help and this same Russia is saying no.

I am not an authority but I believe the main reason Russia does not want Ukraine in NATO isn't about any missile. Virtually all Russian neighbours are NATO members already. They simply want to finish thier project before whatever remains of Ukraine is able to join NATO. And this is why they didn't want to take diplomacy in this issue; they just dropped thier request with no possibility of compromise. Negotiations were still going on Wednesday and they moved in on Thursday in the guise of peace keeping and then eventually spread out all over the country. These are moves of someone who's in a hurry to meet a target. We all know Russia is a bully. People are just letting thier hatred for the West push them into supporting oppression.

No offence taken, Nairaland is a hobby and not part of my productive life, but despite the poor and unreadable grammar as you so stated, you have provided a substantial response..thank you

My response ....

Russia, the UK, France and USA were all signatories to the Budapest Memorandum and it was an assurance to Ukraine and not a guarantee that Ukraine will be protected. There was no binding defence agreement like the NATO alliance.

Russia's security and economic interest are both at stake, that's why Russia invaded Ukraine. The utube podcast provides a further illustration on the subject.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=If61baWF4GE&t=455s&ab_channel=RealLifeLore

The memorandum was originally signed by three nuclear powers: the Russian Federation, the United Kingdom and the United States. China and France gave somewhat weaker individual assurances in separate documents.[1]

The memorandum included security assurances against threats or use of force against the territorial integrity or political independence of Ukraine, Belarus, and Kazakhstan. As a result of other agreements and the memorandum, between 1993 and 1996, Belarus, Kazakhstan and Ukraine gave up their nuclear weapons.[2]

The Budapest Memorandum was negotiated at political level, but it is not entirely clear whether the instrument is devoid entirely of legal provisions. It refers to assurances, but it does not impose a legal obligation of military assistance on its parties.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Budapest_Memorandum_on_Security_Assurances#:~:text=The%20Budapest%20Memorandum%20was%20negotiated,military%20assistance%20on%20its%20parties.