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Re: Ukraine: US Says Poland Offer Of Mig-29 Fighter Jets "Not Tenable". by mbjsuki(m): 2:28pm On Mar 09, 2022
Lawlab254:
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Trying to reach you via whats app, you are not responding. Can you reach me via this email, mbjsuki@hotmail.com, I need more clarification and guidance on SCUML. I will be grateful if you will.
Re: Ukraine: US Says Poland Offer Of Mig-29 Fighter Jets "Not Tenable". by anonimi: 2:38pm On Mar 09, 2022
Nonexisting:
Is this cowardice or what? Send the fuccking planes to Ukrainians or shut the fucck up.

Life is not just about catching cruise for fucckers.

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Re: Ukraine: US Says Poland Offer Of Mig-29 Fighter Jets "Not Tenable". by classicfrank4u(m): 2:43pm On Mar 09, 2022
Walkee:
lol. USA have more population than China?
You expect Russia to come out and take credit? US intelligence found out that it was Russia, everyone knew it was Russia.
Ukraine have lots of Soviet Union facilities that USA were trying to take over.
USA were also funding biological weapons facilities in Ukraine. These are the main reasons Ukraine was targeted. Also, around 35% of Ukrainian population are ethnic Russians and they want to join Russia.
Here's a video of US secretary of states admitting to USA having bio labs in Ukraine after they denied it as propaganda initially
https://twitter.com/stillgray/status/1501310103529541636?t=JuIYeIpkbXCWm_017wp3lQ&s=19

China is a developing country.. go and make your research..
Any Soviet union facility still in the hands of Ukraine is now theirs and they have the right to do whatever they want with it,it shouldn't concern Russia...
That 35% that wants to join Russia should go to Russia and join them, no one is stopping them..

Russia is just using silly reasons to justify their attack on Ukraine... Why didn't Russia attack other former Soviet union members that are now in NATO?
Re: Ukraine: US Says Poland Offer Of Mig-29 Fighter Jets "Not Tenable". by classicfrank4u(m): 3:00pm On Mar 09, 2022
Great0ne1:

What stupid requirement ? I Listene to what Tulsi gabbard has to say


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FtGnDNeAQVk

She didn't say anything that has to do with our argument..
You can't join NATO if you are having internal crisis.. some part of Ukraine have been rebelling against the Ukrainian gov for years now
That's why NATO couldn't accept Ukraine..
After all Estonia, Lithuania were all former members of the Soviet union and are also neighbors to Russia but were accepted by NATO and Russia couldn't do anything
Re: Ukraine: US Says Poland Offer Of Mig-29 Fighter Jets "Not Tenable". by baralatie(m): 3:01pm On Mar 09, 2022
wink2015:
THE WEST IS ALREADY FIGHTING A PROXY WAR.

In Europe oo
Re: Ukraine: US Says Poland Offer Of Mig-29 Fighter Jets "Not Tenable". by baralatie(m): 3:03pm On Mar 09, 2022
Adjovi:




The media is only showing one side of the story so we won't know for sure. Follow aljazira you'll get the undiluted news. Ukraine is winning on social media while Russia is actually advancing. Ukraine have started using civilians as shields a and firing missiles from residential areas forcing Russian trooper to shell those areas. Then Ukraine will come online and start shouting war crime.
Re: Ukraine: US Says Poland Offer Of Mig-29 Fighter Jets "Not Tenable". by Lawlab254: 3:18pm On Mar 09, 2022
mbjsuki:

Trying to reach you via whats app, you are not responding. Can you reach me via this email, mbjsuki@hotmail.com, I need more clarification and guidance on SCUML. I will be grateful if you will.

We just had a chat I guess.

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Re: Ukraine: US Says Poland Offer Of Mig-29 Fighter Jets "Not Tenable". by Svlla: 3:30pm On Mar 09, 2022
I dont even know what to say to you at this point

You think they fire some nukes and keep some undecided

You're funny this guy undecided

Russia has more than enough nukes to cover the whole EU, Canada, USA and remainder sef

Likewise USA

In the case of a nuclear apocalypse all serviceable nukes will be launched....all cities and urban centres will be target....and most nuclear warhead will take out a city

Modern nuclear warhead is over 80 times the ones used on Hiroshima and with blast radius of over 6km for 3rd degree burn and 11 km for first degree burn and a nuclear fallout of much wider radius with a heat temperature of over 300,000 Celsius(540,000fahrenheit)......hey am talking about just 1 megatonne bomb here which is 80× the bomb dropped on Japan but much smaller than what we have today

Now with these information imagine what 500 of these bombs will do to Europe not to mention over 12000 of both Nato and Russia

Don't just talk anyhow

Nobody will hold back to use this weapon in event of a nuclear war.......everything will be used and all urban centres will be the target


So now tell me which of the "most NATO countries will still be there" or part of US or Canada that will remain

Abi you did not reason that a over 6000 nuclear warhead will turn Europe to rubbles 3× over

Next time try and do some research, na small data e go take

classicfrank4u:


Of course! In a nuclear war between NATO and Russia there will be "MAD" but Russia Will be wiped out at the end of the day while most NATO countries will still be there even Putin knows this himself, we shouldn't even be having this argument,one country cannot win against 28

The only reason NATO will not go into any war with Russia is because they value the lives of their citizens, unlike Putin who is ready to sacrifice the whole Russia for some stupid unnecessary reason
Re: Ukraine: US Says Poland Offer Of Mig-29 Fighter Jets "Not Tenable". by Great0ne1: 3:43pm On Mar 09, 2022
classicfrank4u:


She didn't say anything that has to do with our argument..
You can't join NATO if you are having internal crisis.. some part of Ukraine have been rebelling against the Ukrainian gov for years now
That's why NATO couldn't accept Ukraine..
After all Estonia, Lithuania were all former members of the Soviet union and are also neighbors to Russia but were accepted by NATO and Russia couldn't do anything
Russia didn't do anything, because putin wanted peace. He has been warning the west about nato's expansion. Unfortunately, he was never going to let this slide. This was the final straw that broke the carmels back. If nato cannot come in when a conflict is going on, then America can come directly not through nato. America attacked libya, bombed Iraq and serbia capital Belgrade for much lesser alleged crime. Why are they pissing on there pants, now that Moscow is involved ? All of a sudden America is no longer aggressive like a world police, they thought they were. You may also need to watch this


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nkszU_3nLyU
Re: Ukraine: US Says Poland Offer Of Mig-29 Fighter Jets "Not Tenable". by Mattswaggz: 3:58pm On Mar 09, 2022
classicfrank4u:

Russia has more nuclear weapons than all NATO countries combined?
Where did you read such from? lipsrsealed

You can check that out from a verified source if you want,,, the guy above is right.
Re: Ukraine: US Says Poland Offer Of Mig-29 Fighter Jets "Not Tenable". by Jackanda1(m): 4:45pm On Mar 09, 2022
ElijahIme1992:
looooooooooool since NATO is all powerful why Dem dey fear to put body for the war?
Two brothers are fighting, wetin concern NATO? Why should they waste American live over Ukraine? Oil them no get grin grin
Re: Ukraine: US Says Poland Offer Of Mig-29 Fighter Jets "Not Tenable". by djoe21(m): 5:10pm On Mar 09, 2022
Blake755:

Yeah to avoid dragging themselves into a war that didn't concern them

They are being very smart that is why they are not giving Ukraine directly but asking US to do it on their behalf. Since US is NATO and NATO is US let them do it.

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Re: Ukraine: US Says Poland Offer Of Mig-29 Fighter Jets "Not Tenable". by Elimon(m): 6:10pm On Mar 09, 2022
Decentdave:
Russia is over rated. No be by amassing a lot of weapon o..na by the ability to harness the little you have..
Oya let Nato send in fighters na.... No be about over hype. Stay there and be underestimating what u cannot evaluate properly
Re: Ukraine: US Says Poland Offer Of Mig-29 Fighter Jets "Not Tenable". by Elimon(m): 6:14pm On Mar 09, 2022
classicfrank4u:


China is a developing country.. go and make your research..
Any Soviet union facility still in the hands of Ukraine is now theirs and they have the right to do whatever they want with it,it shouldn't concern Russia...
That 35% that wants to join Russia should go to Russia and join them, no one is stopping them..

Russia is just using silly reasons to justify their attack on Ukraine... Why didn't Russia attack other former Soviet union members that are now in NATO?
That was Russia resorting for peaceful measure which the West doesn't take into considerations. Anti Eastern movement of Nato has been a Russian nightmare for a long time and it had been fed up when Ukraine brought up its own ordeal.
Re: Ukraine: US Says Poland Offer Of Mig-29 Fighter Jets "Not Tenable". by Lucas4903: 7:33pm On Mar 09, 2022
anambraamaka:
Why NATO dey fear Russia like this?

That’s what it looks like on the outside but the truth is that no one is afraid of Putin but a war with Russia means an all out warfare where every available instrument of war will be used and tested including NUCLEAR weapons. That is what the west doesn’t want to happen. It’s not fear it’s just wisdom because Putin is irrational at this time and not even listening to his own top advisers. The west is threading carefully trying to avoid an all out Nuclear war.
Re: Ukraine: US Says Poland Offer Of Mig-29 Fighter Jets "Not Tenable". by Lucas4903: 7:36pm On Mar 09, 2022
Mixial:
USA playing games with those countries.....
Are they all daft to understand this

And you are so wise to understand. I pity you.
Re: Ukraine: US Says Poland Offer Of Mig-29 Fighter Jets "Not Tenable". by HomoDroid(m): 8:48pm On Mar 09, 2022
classicfrank4u:


You don't know what you are saying..
China funded north Vietnam more than Russia did, they sent in more than 200000+ men while Russia sent in just 4000+ , so how was Russia the major player?
And Taliban did not defeat the U.S..
U.S got tired and left, were you expecting Dem to stay in Afghanistan forever? Most Afghanistan's are sympathetic to the Taliban's so it was just a waste of time and funds, this is the same thing that will happen to Russia if they try to force in a president to rule Ukraine, Ukrainians are not interested in working with Russia so it is just a waste of time..

Don't be hasty to judge! Ask yourself why they assassinated their own peace negotiator = was it not that they suspected he was also working for Russia?
Re: Ukraine: US Says Poland Offer Of Mig-29 Fighter Jets "Not Tenable". by MyVILLAGEpeople(m): 9:28pm On Mar 09, 2022
nograv:


Here is a link for "the day after"


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iyy9n8r16hs

Here is the link for "threads"

https://archive.org/details/threads_201712




Thanks so much
Re: Ukraine: US Says Poland Offer Of Mig-29 Fighter Jets "Not Tenable". by nograv: 9:59pm On Mar 09, 2022
MyVILLAGEpeople:


Thanks so much

You are welcome
Re: Ukraine: US Says Poland Offer Of Mig-29 Fighter Jets "Not Tenable". by 184trr: 5:52am On Mar 10, 2022
[s]
helinues:
Any shutting down of Russian jets on Ukraine air space is a direct involvement of US, UK, and NATO in this war, says Putin.

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Re: Ukraine: US Says Poland Offer Of Mig-29 Fighter Jets "Not Tenable". by tragergeorge(m): 7:53am On Mar 10, 2022
Winters23:


You're already at war with poverty
Even you too.,as long as u in 9ja
How u fight it determines your survival...
Re: Ukraine: US Says Poland Offer Of Mig-29 Fighter Jets "Not Tenable". by Winters23: 8:33am On Mar 10, 2022
tragergeorge:

Even you too.,as long as u in 9ja
How u fight it determines your survival...

I worn the war a long time ago
Re: Ukraine: US Says Poland Offer Of Mig-29 Fighter Jets "Not Tenable". by tragergeorge(m): 8:50am On Mar 10, 2022
Winters23:


I worn the war a long time ago
no b only worn na warm....
If no get 50m savings in ur account,then u still fighting poverty....so sharap..

If u got a problem with the west go deal with it,instead of seeing everything as propaganda or saying CNN showing us script or they acting,
Cos na American movie u de watch,,people are dieing from the war ,life and properties are being destroyed,families are being displaced,u are saying thrash cos u hear people de talk u want still talk,,,,
Trump ass licker like y'all
Re: Ukraine: US Says Poland Offer Of Mig-29 Fighter Jets "Not Tenable". by Winters23: 9:31am On Mar 10, 2022
tragergeorge:
no b only worn na warm....
If no get 50m savings in ur account,then u still fighting poverty....so sharap..

If u got a problem with the west go deal with it,instead of seeing everything as propaganda or saying CNN showing us script or they acting,
Cos na American movie u de watch,,people are dieing from the war ,life and properties are being destroyed,families are being displaced,u are saying thrash cos u hear people de talk u want still talk,,,,
Trump ass licker like y'all

If na only 50m dey my akant then I broke like church rat.
Re: Ukraine: US Says Poland Offer Of Mig-29 Fighter Jets "Not Tenable". by tragergeorge(m): 10:37am On Mar 10, 2022
Winters23:


If na only 50m dey my akant then I broke like church rat.
hahahaha....abeg oooo
If u saying the truth then i loyal and wish you more blessings in all you do

BUT IF NA LIE?
I pray you make it before you depart from this crazy world
Re: Ukraine: US Says Poland Offer Of Mig-29 Fighter Jets "Not Tenable". by Winters23: 11:29am On Mar 10, 2022
tragergeorge:
hahahaha....abeg oooo
If u saying the truth then i loyal and wish you more blessings in all you do

BUT IF NA LIE?
I pray you make it before you depart from this crazy world

Thanks brother

I wish you what u just wished me
Re: Ukraine: US Says Poland Offer Of Mig-29 Fighter Jets "Not Tenable". by wallrichy: 9:19pm On Mar 12, 2022
Thanks my brother, you know what? Russia story is like the story of my dog I loved so much. I bought this dog as a puppy and nursed this dog to full adult and my brother very strong and beautiful dog....like a werewolf.....doesn't go out and very massive....the barking alone scares people residing in the other surrounding streets. I bet some neighbors never saw this dog before but only hears the scary and terrifying barking. Something suddenly happened, the dog fell sick when I travelled and eventually died. This is the reason for this story, do you know that till today, people still believe that the dog is still in my house and that scares people away from my gate even close friends and distance family. The sense of this story is that Russia is Like my dog, beautiful and powerful, scary and terrifying but that attributes died with my dog as it died with old Russia (USSR). But the New Russia is still barking as if it's the old USSR which is a risk on its own. Russia might slide into the dungeon by this costly miscalculation.


olasquare:


Wonderful reply I must say. I think Europe and the US intentionally taunted Russia, and Putin fell for the bait. They have long been looking for the window to frustrate him with sanctions, because the wave at which they come from all angles, including FIFA ban, should tell us it is premeditated, and well planned. For America, as long as Russia still have that military capacity, and a little comfortable economic as it does, his own claim to the throne is still under threat. Hence, Russia must be disoriented, disorganized, disunited against themselves, and distabilized. Unfortunately, confrontations between those two will always and forever have very strong negative impact on the world at large
Re: Ukraine: US Says Poland Offer Of Mig-29 Fighter Jets "Not Tenable". by olasquare: 10:07am On Mar 13, 2022
wallrichy:
Thanks my brother, you know what? Russia story is like the story of my dog I loved so much. I bought this dog as a puppy and nursed this dog to full adult and my brother very strong and beautiful dog....like a werewolf.....doesn't go out and very massive....the barking alone scares people residing in the other surrounding streets. I bet some neighbors never saw this dog before but only hears the scary and terrifying barking. Something suddenly happened, the dog fell sick when I travelled and eventually died. This is the reason for this story, do you know that till today, people still believe that the dog is still in my house and that scares people away from my gate even close friends and distance family. The sense of this story is that Russia is Like my dog, beautiful and powerful, scary and terrifying but that attributes died with my dog as it died with old Russia (USSR). But the New Russia is still barking as if it's the old USSR which is a risk on its own. Russia might slide into the dungeon by this costly miscalculation.



Time is a better story teller. We will wait to see how the slide swings. I think the the only way for Russia is to fully integrate with china, which of course puts it at the mercy of china, the way it has been with the west, because now, whatever the outcome of its present onslaught in Ukraine, either it takes back the state or just causes a regime change, its battle with the west and America just began. This is what the west and America wanted for years. They are just smart enough to do it. The breakdown and blackmailing of Russia has been a long time blueprint. Even with Hollywood, Russia has always been the target for all the bad analogy. China on the other hand study this scenario so well, and are doing everything to change the narrative, including with motion pictures. Things Russia never thought of doing. China has built its own technology such that it has no reliance on the west and America, and thus makes it difficult for the west and America to target. Nevertheless, it is still a target but with different strategy of course. The west and America wanted to keep there world order by all means possible. China and Russia are the only two stumbling blocks to there agenda. The happenings of late make me appreciate China's restrictions on western and America tech companies, and its steps to build its country firewall.

Basically, what is causing this war is conflict of ideology. The west and America are pro democracy. Russia and china are pro communist and socialism. The west and America wanted to impose there philosophy by all means to have a say that it is the best form of human coexistence, and they are out to do it forcefully using there technological and economical advancement as instrument over others. China and Russia on the other hand counters this philosophy with there own claim of having a better human coexistence which places no priority on societal class or status. Hence, china's serious race to eradicate poverty in its country and grow its economy and human capacity as a proof that communism and socialism can as well have meaningful and positive impact on human coexistence like democracy, if not even better than democracy.

If you ask me to summarize my thoughts, I think the west and America are the real aggressor because, the same thing they accuses communist government of, they do with there free state believe but in a covert manner. Absolute power truly intoxicates; either it is a democratic, communist, or authoritarian rule. The west and America has this absolute power over everything, and it intoxicates them to dominate every mankind. We can have a better discussion on which between communist and capitalist economy has better benefits to the people.

Our Buhari didn't know which to lean to among the two. At one point it wanted to be capitalist, at the other end it lean towards communist. For me, our ideology for a proper economy and government is not clear in Nigeria. We are not clear on understanding as to what we want to do

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