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Demons Believe So Faith Is Not Enough? by Steep: 12:16pm On Mar 09, 2022
If demons believe does that mean faith is not enough?
First, what do demons believe

James 2:19 Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.

Demons believe there is one God. Believing there is one God is not a saving faith.

What then is the saving faith?
The saving faith is trust in Jesus christ, and his finished work on the cross.
The blood of Jesus shed on the cross is for the remission of sins. We true faith in Jesus we recieve a new life, and this new life lead to good works in christ.

The saving faith produces works but the dead produces no work.

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Re: Demons Believe So Faith Is Not Enough? by Steep: 12:18pm On Mar 09, 2022
Faith is enough because even the life lived in christ is by faith of Jesus christ.
Re: Demons Believe So Faith Is Not Enough? by wenogodie2: 12:37pm On Mar 09, 2022
Steep:
Faith is enough because even the life lived in christ is by faith of Jesus christ.

So if you believe in the finished work of Jesus for the cleansing of your sins but you still commit fornication and other sins will you make heaven?

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Re: Demons Believe So Faith Is Not Enough? by Steep: 12:43pm On Mar 09, 2022
wenogodie2:


So if you believe in the finished work of Jesus for the cleansing of your sins but you still commit fornication and other sins will you make heaven?
yes if he continues in the truth of Jesus christ.

1 John 1:7 But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.

But again, he saved Christian does not go on to continue live in sin, this is because he is born of God.

So your answer is not because he sinned but if he does or not continue in christ.
Re: Demons Believe So Faith Is Not Enough? by Solofresh2: 12:51pm On Mar 09, 2022
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Re: Demons Believe So Faith Is Not Enough? by MaxInDHouse(m): 1:05pm On Mar 09, 2022
All what you need is FAITH! Luke 17:5
But you need to know how true FAITH WORKS because if you don't know how FAITH WORKS then you may just be credulous and imagining you have FAITH! smiley

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Re: Demons Believe So Faith Is Not Enough? by kingyakos: 1:44pm On Mar 09, 2022
wenogodie2:


So if you believe in the finished work of Jesus for the cleansing of your sins but you still commit fornication and other sins will you make heaven?
.....There are three kind of believers
Unbelievers
Make believers
Believers
Remember the atonement of sins of the Israelites that the priest do offer, now that doesn't mean they don't fall into sin after the atonement, the atonement is as a curtain that covers their sins so God won't see it. Same thing applicable with the true Believers of Christ, who has initiated them body, soul and spirit into Christ, who are the bride of Christ. When ever they fall into sin, God does not see any sin in them though they'll always ask God for forgiveness of their sins. God sees no sin in them, what God sees in them is Christ. The scripture says God created man in his image, in other words they were part of God in the beginning (the original seed) they are not complete without God and God is not complete without them, So how can the image of God sin, it's impossible for that to happen. God cannot sin, it's the devil that sin
Re: Demons Believe So Faith Is Not Enough? by wenogodie2: 2:24pm On Mar 09, 2022
kingyakos:
.....There are three kind of believers
Unbelievers
Make believers
Believers
Remember the atonement of sins of the Israelites that the priest do offer, now that doesn't mean they don't fall into sin after the atonement, the atonement is as a curtain that covers their sins so God won't see it. Same thing applicable with the true Believers of Christ, who has initiated them body, soul and spirit into Christ, who are the bride of Christ. When ever they fall into sin, God does not see any sin in them though they'll always ask God for forgiveness of their sins. God sees no sin in them, what God sees in them is Christ. The scripture says God created man in his image, in other words they were part of God in the beginning (the original seed) they are not complete without God and God is not complete without them, So how can the image of God sin, it's impossible for that to happen. God cannot sin, it's the devil that sin

If God cannot sin then why do we his image commit sin.
Re: Demons Believe So Faith Is Not Enough? by MaxInDHouse(m): 2:35pm On Mar 09, 2022
wenogodie2:

If God cannot sin then why do we his image commit sin.
Sin was inherited from Adam (a perfect man who chose to become a sinner)
Adam supposed to be our role model but due to his failure God created another perfect man through the life of one of His spirit sons in heaven and this one proved that humans can live without sinning.
That's why God told us to imitate Jesus Christ so that we can gain what Adam lost which is everlasting life! smiley
Re: Demons Believe So Faith Is Not Enough? by Steep: 4:11pm On Mar 09, 2022
MaxInDHouse:

Sin was inherited from Adam (a perfect man who chose to become a sinner)
Adam supposed to be our role model but due to his failure God created another perfect man through the life of one of His spirit sons in heaven and this one proved that humans can live without sinning.
That's why God told us to imitate Jesus Christ so that we can gain what Adam lost which is everlasting life! smiley
at bolded this is false.
Re: Demons Believe So Faith Is Not Enough? by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:21pm On Mar 09, 2022
Steep:
at bolded this is false.

Which part of it is false?

@Adam supposed to be our role model.
@He failed as a perfect man.
@God created another perfect man by transforming the life of one of His spirit sons into an embryo in the womb of a virgin girl.
@This perfect man proved that humans can live without sinning.
@God told us to imitate this perfect man.
@Because through him we will have everlasting life. smiley

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Re: Demons Believe So Faith Is Not Enough? by Steep: 4:25pm On Mar 09, 2022
kingyakos:
.....There are three kind of believers
Unbelievers
Make believers
Believers
Remember the atonement of sins of the Israelites that the priest do offer, now that doesn't mean they don't fall into sin after the atonement, the atonement is as a curtain that covers their sins so God won't see it. Same thing applicable with the true Believers of Christ, who has initiated them body, soul and spirit into Christ, who are the bride of Christ. When ever they fall into sin, God does not see any sin in them though they'll always ask God for forgiveness of their sins. God sees no sin in them, what God sees in them is Christ. The scripture says God created man in his image, in other words they were part of God in the beginning (the original seed) they are not complete without God and God is not complete without them, So how can the image of God sin, it's impossible for that to happen. God cannot sin, it's the devil that sin

So many errors in this submission.
It is not true that when a Christian sins God does not see his sins, this is unscriptural. God sees our sins and it has consequences.
Secondly, Christians are not initiated into Jesus body and blood, this also is unscriptural.
As long as a Christian is still in the flesh he can sin, that is why scripture says mortifying your flesh.
You said God is not complete without man?
are you serious?
This is an heresy. Stop listening to heretics teachings.
Re: Demons Believe So Faith Is Not Enough? by Steep: 4:28pm On Mar 09, 2022
MaxInDHouse:


Which part of it is false?

@Adam supposed to be our role model.
@He failed as a perfect man.
@God created another perfect man by transforming the life of one of His spirit sons into an embryo in the womb of a virgin girl.
@This perfect man proved that humans can live without sinning.
@God told us to imitate this perfect man.
@Because through him we will have everlasting life. smiley
Check the bolded again.
1.No where is it written that Adam is suppose to be our role model,
2. You don't get eternal life by imitating Jesus.
3. Jesus is not one of God's spirit sons, he is the only begotten Son.

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Re: Demons Believe So Faith Is Not Enough? by kingyakos: 6:18pm On Mar 09, 2022
Steep:

So many errors in this submission.
It is not true that when a Christian sins God does not see his sins, this is unscriptural. God sees our sins and it has consequences.
Secondly, Christians are not initiated into Jesus body and blood, this also is unscriptural.
As long as a Christian is still in the flesh he can sin, that is why scripture says mortifying your flesh.
You said God is not complete without man?
are you serious?
This is an heresy. Stop listening to heretics teachings.
......1st you need to understand what is sin and remember the scripture says any soul that sin must die.
What did God gave Adam and Eve to live by, God gave them his word to live by, so long as they keep to the Word, they live eternally but eve misplaced just one word and that put all human race into death.
Now sin is unbelieve.
When a person is baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by immersing, that person has intimated his/her self into the body of Christ and that's initiation cos the Bible called it a spiritual concussion. Paul, Peter, Philip etc baptized their followers in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ and by that alone you can get the beauty of Christ in you and his beauty are discernment of thought and intent of the heart, raising death, healing etc.
And yes and I say it again yes that God is not complete without his attribute and his attribute are not complete without God if so, God would've live in the earth alone, he wouldn't have create his image.
Yes I say it again that the image of God cannot sin cos God cannot sin and sin is not his creation.
What I'm telling you today I get it from no man nor any school of theology, it's the deep that calleth the deep and the deep respond to the deep. Shalom
Re: Demons Believe So Faith Is Not Enough? by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:24pm On Mar 09, 2022
Steep:

Check the bolded again.
1.No where is it written that Adam is suppose to be our role model,
2. You don't get eternal life by imitating Jesus.
3. Jesus is not one of God's spirit sons, he is the only begotten Son.

@Well you only need to ask "who is the man through whom we all became sinners?" {Romans 5:12} So if Adam set a fine example (model) do you think we will become sinners? Romans 3:23

@For God so love the world that He gave His only begotten Son so that whosoever believe in him should not perish but have everlasting life {John 3:16} said it all!
Only those who are able to put Jesus' teaching to practice can have everlasting life.
And how do we learn from Jesus?
Through his thoughts, words and actions, so do you think anyone who chooses to imitate Jesus in all his/her dealings won't qualify for everlasting life?

To this you were called, because Christ suffered for you, leaving you an example, that you should follow in his steps. 1Peter 2:12

@"Only begotten Son" doesn't mean Jesus is not one of God's spirit sons!
God has many spirit sons in heaven {Job 38:7} and Jesus happens to be the first and foremost, that just the secret! Colossians 1:15-16 smiley
Re: Demons Believe So Faith Is Not Enough? by kingyakos: 6:48pm On Mar 09, 2022
kingyakos:
......1st you need to understand what is sin and remember the scripture says any soul that sin must die.
What did God gave Adam and Eve to live by, God gave them his word to live by, so long as they keep to the Word, they live eternally but eve misplaced just one word and that put all human race into death.
Now sin is unbelieve.
When a person is baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by immersing, that person has initiated his/her self into the body of Christ and that's initiation cos the Bible called it a spiritual concussion. Paul, Peter, Philip etc baptized their followers in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ and by that alone you can get the beauty of Christ in you and his beauty are discernment of thought and intent of the heart, raising death, healing etc.
And yes and I say it again yes that God is not complete without his attribute and his attribute are not complete without God if so, God would've live in the earth alone, he wouldn't have create his image.
Yes I say it again that the image of God cannot sin cos God cannot sin and sin is not his creation.
What I'm telling you today I get it from no man nor any school of theology, it's the deep that calleth the deep and the deep respond to the deep. Shalom
......What you've heard from me today you won't hear it in any church cos the church today has failed from their Pentecostal conduct,order doctrine of a church by letting in doctrines and traditions men into the church of the Living God that was built on revelation. Flesh and blood did not reveal this to you but my Father in Heaven did and upon this rock ( revelation) I will build my Church.
The book of Revelation says the church is rich and insufficient of nothing, not knowing that they are poor blind reached naked and they don't know it. Never in history Christ has been outside his Church except in this generation ( Christ said I am outside knocking). He is truly outside and the doctrines and traditions of men has taken over the Church.
The Church is supposed to be run by revelation, and by revelation Abel offers a better sacrifice. Shalom
Re: Demons Believe So Faith Is Not Enough? by kingyakos: 7:08pm On Mar 09, 2022
wenogodie2:


If God cannot sin then why do we his image commit sin.
....if u are a child of God then all ur sins has been paid for in the cross of Calvary so whatever sin u have committed it is not you it is the devil and it's God that said so not me. I will only advice you to separate yourself from sin. Shalom
Re: Demons Believe So Faith Is Not Enough? by Steep: 10:13pm On Mar 09, 2022
kingyakos:
......1st you need to understand what is sin and remember the scripture says any soul that sin must die.
What did God gave Adam and Eve to live by, God gave them his word to live by, so long as they keep to the Word, they live eternally but eve misplaced just one word and that put all human race into death.
Now sin is unbelieve.
When a person is baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by immersing, that person has intimated his/her self into the body of Christ and that's initiation cos the Bible called it a spiritual concussion. Paul, Peter, Philip etc baptized their followers in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ and by that alone you can get the beauty of Christ in you and his beauty are discernment of thought and intent of the heart, raising death, healing etc.
And yes and I say it again yes that God is not complete without his attribute and his attribute are not complete without God if so, God would've live in the earth alone, he wouldn't have create his image.
Yes I say it again that the image of God cannot sin cos God cannot sin and sin is not his creation.
What I'm telling you today I get it from no man nor any school of theology, it's the deep that calleth the deep and the deep respond to the deep. Shalom
This is heresy, you are in the heresy of gnosticsm.
I believe in the authority of the scripture not some hidden knowledge.

Alot of heresies spewing out from you.
Among many erroroneous things you said

Who told you God's image was created? Where are you getting this filths from?
You said God is incomplete without man?
The body of christ is not occult where you are initiated to belong.
There is no word like concession in the bible.


You better check you so called deeper revelation and the source of it. The devil is in the business of deception, the bible already has all the answers, the mind of God is no longer a mystery, it is in the bible.
Re: Demons Believe So Faith Is Not Enough? by Steep: 10:16pm On Mar 09, 2022
MaxInDHouse:


@Well you only need to ask "who is the man through whom we all became sinners?" {Romans 5:12} So if Adam set a fine example (model) do you think we will become sinners? Romans 3:23

@For God so love the world that He gave His only begotten Son so that whosoever believe in him should not perish but have everlasting life {John 3:16} said it all!
Only those who are able to put Jesus' teaching to practice can have everlasting life.
And how do we learn from Jesus?
Through his thoughts, words and actions, so do you think anyone who chooses to imitate Jesus in all his/her dealings won't qualify for everlasting life?

To this you were called, because Christ suffered for you, leaving you an example, that you should follow in his steps. 1Peter 2:12

@"Only begotten Son" doesn't mean Jesus is not one of God's spirit sons!
God has many spirit sons in heaven {Job 38:7} and Jesus happens to be the first and foremost, that just the secret! Colossians 1:15-16 smiley
Jesus is not one of God's spirit sons. There is nothing like spirit sons in the bible.. it is a word coined by watch to teach that Jesus is just one of the angels. That is a false teaching.

Imitating Jesus wouldn't give you eternal life.
Re: Demons Believe So Faith Is Not Enough? by kingyakos: 5:02am On Mar 10, 2022
Steep:

This is heresy, you are in the heresy of gnosticsm.
I believe in the authority of the scripture not some hidden knowledge.

Alot of heresies spewing out from you.
Among many erroroneous things you said

Who told you God's image was created? Where are you getting this filths from?
You said God is incomplete without man?
The body of christ is not occult where you are initiated to belong.
There is no word like concession in the bible.


You better check you so called deeper revelation and the source of it. The devil is in the business of deception, the bible already has all the answers, the mind of God is no longer a mystery, it is in the bible.
....
Genesis 1:27 (KJV) So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.
Genesis 1:26 (KJV) And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
Colossians 1:26-27 (KJV) Even the mystery which hath been hid from ages and from generations, but now is made manifest to his saints:
To whom God would make known what is the riches of the glory of this mystery among the Gentiles; which is Christ in you, the hope of glory:
1 John 5:7-8 (KJV) For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.
And there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one.
Revelation 10:7 (KJV) But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he shall begin to sound, the mystery of God should be finished, as he hath declared to his servants the prophets.
Baptism means initiation....
And these three are in one....three things mixed together, that's concussion.
Don't just float around with the Bible, sink in deep.
If I start telling you the position of America in Rev:13 you will call me names.
The devil can never tell your thoughts or intent though he pevert the things of God but he can never do that.
Re: Demons Believe So Faith Is Not Enough? by MaxInDHouse(m): 5:38am On Mar 10, 2022
Steep:

Jesus is not one of God's spirit sons. There is nothing like spirit sons in the bible.. it is a word coined by watch to teach that Jesus is just one of the angels. That is a false teaching.
Imitating Jesus wouldn't give you eternal life.

Well for your information he (Jesus) is the same person the Bible calls Archangel Michael.


But if you think that's a lie please present the group that Jesus is leading today.
The Archangel Michael started guiding the Watchtower since the year 1914 and so far so good that is the one and only organization of zealous preachers and industrious teachers of God's word globally all others don't have what it takes to preach and teach zealously like Jesus commanded {Matthew 28:19-20} and what's more?
They are fulfilling what God's Kingdom citizens were foretold to accomplish during the last days! Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1:3

All these achievements is due to the fact that they're able to work with Archangel Michael the one and only Jesus Christ! Daniel 12:1-3

All other religious groups will only continue arguing fruitlessly, they will never understand {Daniel 12:10} how only JWs are making it happen with just few people in each country across the globe yet their activities are felt globally! Matthew 5:13-16

May you have PEACE! smiley

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Re: Demons Believe So Faith Is Not Enough? by Steep: 8:33am On Mar 11, 2022
MaxInDHouse:


Well for your information he (Jesus) is the same person the Bible calls Archangel Michael.


But if you think that's a lie please present the group that Jesus is leading today.
The Archangel Michael started guiding the Watchtower since the year 1914 and so far so good that is the one and only organization of zealous preachers and industrious teachers of God's word globally all others don't have what it takes to preach and teach zealously like Jesus commanded {Matthew 28:19-20} and what's more?
They are fulfilling what God's Kingdom citizens were foretold to accomplish during the last days! Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1:3

All these achievements is due to the fact that they're able to work with Archangel Michael the one and only Jesus Christ! Daniel 12:1-3

All other religious groups will only continue arguing fruitlessly, they will never understand {Daniel 12:10} how only JWs are making it happen with just few people in each country across the globe yet their activities are felt globally! Matthew 5:13-16

May you have PEACE! smiley
It is satan that is guiding your organization.

Micheal is angel of Jesus christ. Jesus is Jehovah.
Re: Demons Believe So Faith Is Not Enough? by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:55am On Mar 11, 2022
Steep:

It is satan that is guiding your organization.
Micheal is angel of Jesus christ. Jesus is Jehovah.

"By their FRUITS you will know them" Matthew 7:16-18
If the one and only organization that successfully erased politics, military and use of weapons against our fellowman belongs to Satan i wonder what Jesus' disciples (Christians) are expected to do for Prince of Peace! James 2:18-26 smiley

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Re: Demons Believe So Faith Is Not Enough? by KristopherK: 10:36am On Mar 11, 2022
Thanks for sharing, I found a lot of interesting information here. A really good post, very thankful and helpful that you will write many more posts like this one.

Myloweslife

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Re: Demons Believe So Faith Is Not Enough? by Steep: 11:05am On Mar 12, 2022
KristopherK:
Thanks for sharing, I found a lot of interesting information here. A really good post, very thankful and helpful that you will write many more posts like this one.

Myloweslife
you are welcome
Re: Demons Believe So Faith Is Not Enough? by orisa37: 5:58am On Mar 13, 2022
FAITH IS APPRECIATING WHAT YOU HAVE.
Re: Demons Believe So Faith Is Not Enough? by orisa37: 6:00am On Mar 13, 2022
FAITH IS APPRECIATING WHAT YOU HAVE. RICHES AND WEALTH ACKNOWLEDGED.
Re: Demons Believe So Faith Is Not Enough? by OceanEye: 10:05am On Mar 20, 2022
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Re: Demons Believe So Faith Is Not Enough? by Steep: 9:42pm On Mar 25, 2022
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Re: Demons Believe So Faith Is Not Enough? by Kobojunkie: 5:23pm On May 02, 2023
wenogodie2:
■ So if you believe in the finished work of Jesus for the cleansing of your sins but you still commit fornication and other sins will you make heaven?
You are told in scripture that demons also believe in that same finished work of Jesus Christ —demons pointed Jesus Christ out as the Messiah sent from God —, same as you claim you believe, so by your assessment, are demons equally headed to Heaven? undecided
Re: Demons Believe So Faith Is Not Enough? by Steep: 6:50pm On May 02, 2023
Kobojunkie:
You are told in scripture that demons also believe in that same finished work of Jesus Christ —demons pointed Jesus Christ out as the Messiah sent from God —, same as you claim you believe, so by your assessment, are demons equally headed to Heaven? undecided
Where in the scripture are you told demons believe in the finished work of Christ?
Re: Demons Believe So Faith Is Not Enough? by Kobojunkie: 6:54pm On May 02, 2023
Steep:
■ Where in the scripture are you told demons believe in the finished work of Christ?
1. Read through the Gospels, none of the demons Jesus Christ confronted ever suggested He was not the Messiah...they believed. None of them questioned His authority. undecided

https://bible.knowing-jesus.com/topics/Jesus-Casting-Out-Demons

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