Steep:

Check the bolded again.
1.No where is it written that Adam is suppose to be our role model,
2. You don't get eternal life by imitating Jesus.
3. Jesus is not one of God's spirit sons, he is the only begotten Son.

1.
Your biological father or even Adam no suppose be your role model?

Oga, Where did your education start from?

2.
1 Corinthians 11:1 & John 13:15.
Oga, you dey imitate Satan?

3.
Romans 8:3 & 1 Corinthians 15:45 (NLT),is Jesus Christ a spirit son of God?
Is Oga Steep a human son of God?

Wetin Musa no go see for gate sef?

JWs follow the holy scriptures jare.

Janosky:
■ Your biological father or even Adam no suppose be your role model?

Oga, Where did your education start from?

Wetin Musa no go see for gate sef?

Kobojunkie:
Was Adam Abel's role model?.

Janosky:
■ The word "suppose" precedes 'role model' in the statement.
Is that statement crystal clear enough for you? When your biological Father is not your role model?
Is that situation very proper and in order? That Adam was not Abel's role model, do you prefer to copy that example in your own home?

wenogodie2:


So if you believe in the finished work of Jesus for the cleansing of your sins but you still commit fornication and other sins will you make heaven?

Kobojunkie:
1. Read through the Gospels, none of the demons Jesus Christ confronted ever suggested He was not the Messiah...they believed. None of them questioned His authority.

https://bible.knowing-jesus.com/topics/Jesus-Casting-Out-Demons

Janosky:



1.
Your biological father or even Adam no suppose be your role model?

Oga, Where did your education start from?

2.
1 Corinthians 11:1 & John 13:15.
Oga, you dey imitate Satan?

3.
Romans 8:3 & 1 Corinthians 15:45 (NLT),is Jesus Christ a spirit son of God?
Is Oga Steep a human son of God?

Wetin Musa no go see for gate sef?

JWs follow the holy scriptures jare.

Steep:
■ Where in the bible you are giving me link?
Where was it written that demons believe in Jesus finished work?

Kobojunkie:
1. You mean you are not aware of the cases where demons even obeyed Jesus Christ lauding Him as the Messiah, Son of God?,

2. Is this finished work you speak if different from what Jesus Christ did while He was on earth or something? Care to explain it with details?

Steep:

There is no such teaching as spirit sons and humans sobs of God. Just sons of God, in fact God is the father of Spirits not father of flesh.

MaxInDHouse:


The Bible said Adam is God's Son! Luke 3:38

Was Adam (the first man) flesh or spirit?

Steep:
Adam's was made in God's image and God's image has nothing to do with the flesh.
So nothing like human sons or spirit sons just sons of God.

MaxInDHouse:


You're just poised for blind arguments!

Steep:
This is not what I asked you, where in the bible was it written that Demons believed in the finished work of Christ? Where in the bible was it written that Demons believed that Jesus died for them?

You are just a mischievous liar, you lied so as to discredit the gospel of Jesus christ.

Kobojunkie:
Oh, so "finished work" of Jesus Christ now means Jesus Christ died for one? Interesting delusion of choice!

Jesus Christ brought down with Him the Kingdom of God and it is in that same Kingdom of God that you are told that the devil and his Demons will end up at the end - Matthew 25 vs 41 - 46. Demons know this and they believe that they are a part of the Kingdom of God which Jesus Christ rules over.

Steep:

Everybody who read your post will laugh at you.
Deluded liar.

Steep:
If demons believe does that mean faith is not enough?
First, what do demons believe

James 2:19 Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.

Demons believe there is one God. Believing there is one God is not a saving faith.

What then is the saving faith?
The saving faith is trust in Jesus christ, and his finished work on the cross.
The blood of Jesus shed on the cross is for the remission of sins. We true faith in Jesus we recieve a new life, and this new life lead to good works in christ.

The saving faith produces works but the dead produces no work.

wenogodie2:
■ If God cannot sin then why do we his image commit sin.

TenQ:

There is a subtle difference between FAITH and BELIEF!

1. Belief is your Conviction about an Issue or person
2. Faith is a Trust leading to Dependence on a Personality

Kobojunkie:
Lol... so Jesus Christ, the one who informed you in Matthew 25 vs 40 - 46 that Eternal Damnation is made for the devil and his angels is a deluded liar then? Good to know what you in fact think of Him!

Steep:
yes that is the definition of belief, it is a conviction about something on someone but however, to believe in something or someone is to trust in that person on thing, Erich itself is faith.

Steep:
sounding like a broken record already, Don't change topic, where in the bible is it written that Demons believe in the finished work of Christ on the cross?

You are a deluded liar.
Your case is that you are in a very strong delusion and convinced that the lies you have being fed is the truth, you have somehow convinced yourself you are wise or intellectual mean while your foolishness is epic.

TenQ:

That is why one must factor in the difference in definition.

It is impossible to have faith without believing.
BUT
It is possible to believe without having faith in a personality.

I can believe Peter Obi won the Election without having Faith in Peter Obi!

I can believe my neighbour stole my goat without having faith in my neighbour.

HOWEVER
I can believe that my wife will not commit Adultery and have Faith in my Wife.

I can believe that God will not Fail me and have Faith in God.

Faith is a Trust leading to a Dependency on the INTEGRITY of a Personality.


I hope the illustration is clearer of the difference between faith and belief

kingyakos:
■ ...There are three kind of believers
Unbelievers
Make believers
Believers
Remember the atonement of sins of the Israelites that the priest do offer, now that doesn't mean they don't fall into sin after the atonement, the atonement is as a curtain that covers their sins so God won't see it. Same thing applicable with the true Believers of Christ, who has initiated them body, soul and spirit into Christ, who are the bride of Christ. When ever they fall into sin, God does not see any sin in them though they'll always ask God for forgiveness of their sins. God sees no sin in them, what God sees in them is Christ.
■ The scripture says God created man in his image, in other words they were part of God in the beginning (the original seed) they are not complete without God and God is not complete without them, So how can the image of God sin, it's impossible for that to happen. God cannot sin, it's the devil that sin

Kobojunkie:
1. I am afraid what you described only applies as far as the righteous are concerned -- those who have as instructed sought first the Kingdom of God(holiness) and God's Righteousness. The others in the Kingdom of God, they unrighteous also believe but are unrighteous as a result of their sins.

2. Man was made in the image of God does not imply completeness without God. A doll, for instance, is an image of man, but a doll is not complete without man to move it around or put batteries into it or wash/clean it when it gets dirty.

kingyakos:
■ Please in few sentence define sin?

Steep:

There is no such teaching as spirit sons and humans sobs of God. Just sons of God, in fact God is the father of Spirits not father of flesh.

Are angels Spirits?
Are angels sons of God?

This fact is not for debate:
Anyone dwelling in heaven is a spirit in heaven.


Is Adam flesh?
Who is Adam's Father?

Oga Steep ,why ?
You suppose done pass this level nau

Kobojunkie:
The deluded liar here is the one who claims in Jesus Christ yet selectively refuses to believe the same Jesus Christ when He teaches that demons and devil are equally a part of the same Kingdom of God which Jesus Christ brought down and threw open when He died and rose from the dead.

In one breath you proclaim God a liar whereas in the other you suggest you believe in Him. Make up your mind abeg and stop living miserably.

Janosky:



Are angels Spirits?
Are angels sons of God?

This fact is not for debate:
Anyone dwelling in heaven is a spirit in heaven.


Is Adam flesh?
Who is Adam's Father?

Oga Steep ,why ?
You suppose done pass this level nau

Steep:

Thanks for your input, totally aligned with my position, which is scriptural.
The demons believe there is God but do not put their trust in him.

Steep:
Adam's was made in God's image and God's image has nothing to do with the flesh.
So nothing like human sons or spirit sons just sons of God.

Steep:
oga Janosky, e better make you just keep quiet and beg God make he show you the truth.