cornelboy:


Did GOD ever said he changed his purpose for creating man?
Like God created the first Man to live forever in the garden and he hadn't sinned he would be here today right?

Yes.

Sheddy5:

are you a christian?

Of course I am! And I believe only what the Bible teaches not what a pastor or my parents told me

Sheddy5:

Yes.

Pls could you answer the two questions?
Which one did you answer "yes" to?

Tobedated:
As far as i know all heaven offer is
1 eternal life
2 peace
3 playing with wild animals
4 and praising god forever but what heaven takes away because of this should be scary
1 eternity - but doing what, have you ever stay home doing nothing before with no technology in heaven isn't that torture like can you imagine how your mental health will go in the drain from having nothing to do at least on earth you can kill yourself but don't forget eternal life damn.

2 peace is a good offer but once again at what cost remember in heaven there is no such thing as family as jesus explain with the women with multiple husband, all that makes life worth it is the friends and family one makes along the way all that gone because of peace that have no meaning because all you doing is one thing is it worth it also don't forget your friends from another religion all in hell

3 who the Bleep want that like that just stupid

4 can't that be done on earth where things are more fun than being an object showering god praise

1) First of all, we are going to A Shiny New Upgraded Earth, which is replacing this dead one you evil monsters have destroyed for every body.

And if this one was very good before you people destroyed it, then that tells you how greatly gooder that other new one will be especially as all the things there will be shiny brand new.

2) Since you obviously hate Living, why have you not terninated yourself? Let those who wanna die, die and let those who wanna Live, Live!

3) And the best part of Living there is that we would never be seeing or hearing from you evil monsters ever ever again nor will there be any evil soul like you, who will cheat, steal, kill or lie there, which means work will be very sweet, marriages perfect, food plenty, nothing like insecurity, we can sleep with our eyes completely shut and our doors open, nothing like passports and visas and hotels and banks and wars and borders etc.

cornelboy:

Of course I am! And I believe only what the Bible teaches not what a pastor or my parents told me

alright, make sure you read the bible properly.

PastorMIsBack:
We won't have an earthly body there so we won't care for earthly things.
John 3:6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.

Wrong dear!

Read revelations again. New earth with a new body to go with it

Tobedated:
seriously out of everything bible could have omitted it omitted that and everyone still clamouring for heaven it lists out the trails and tribulation very well but when it get to the reward part there's no way of knowing if it is a blessing or an unending curse pastorMIsBack The story no clear

That's the beauty of a good surprise! It should be shockingly pleasant!

Sheddy5:

alright, make sure you read the bible properly.

Can you show me where the Bible says all the righteous people will live in heaven?

cornelboy:
Pls could you answer the two questions? Which one did you answer "yes" to?

1 yes. 2 yes.

Tobedated:

but that doesn't correlate with what the bible is implicating

The Bible said "every tear shall be wiped away, no more sorrow, no more pain"

If this does not mean In-Joy-Ment and Happiness then you obviously do not know what joy and happiness mean.

Sheddy5:

1 yes.
2 yes.

Pls prove with the scriptures that God changed the purpose for creating Man

If you believe Adam would be here if he hadn't sin, what makes you think that humans will live heaven?

cornelboy:


Can you show me where the Bible says all the righteous people will live in heaven?

if you're righteous, that mean you're doing God's will. Check mathew 7:22

cornelboy:

Pls prove with the scriptures that God changed the purpose for creating Man

If you believe Adam would be here if he hadn't sin, what makes you think that humans will live heaven?

1. Read the whole of Genesis.

2. Because God said so.

Sheddy5:

having joy in heaven [b]does not mean we'll find things that will give us joy [/b]instead God will input the joy in us (the choosen ones)

Ah! You have spoken wrongly here. Just as God did here and put a lot of suprising things which gave us joy, just as this world when we first entered it was, we would surely have new things of joy waiting for us.

Tobedated:

that means we are no longer ourselves we are basically robot we are forced to smile we are made into idiot is that fair after all we went through to get there?

You are a robot even here a natural robot that is, that can choose what would become of it whether good or bad!

Dtruthspeaker:


Wrong dear!

Read revelations again. New earth with a new body to go with it

I'm talking of the body we have now and you are talking of a new body. How am I wrong?

Imagine, this son of Satan is trying to say that eternal Living is bad!

O Lord, please let this match end and The Referee blow Trumpet up!

PastorMIsBack:

I'm talking of the body we have now and you are talking of a new body. How am I wrong?

You said "We won't have an earthly body there so we won't care for earthly things"

And I am saying we would be having the new earthly body, recreated for that new earth.

Dtruthspeaker:


Ah! You have spoken wrongly here. Just as God did here and put a lot of suprising things which gave us joy, just as this world when we first entered it was, we would surely have new things of joy waiting for us.

it is writen, God is the only one that can give joy.

Sheddy5:

it is writen, God is the only one that can give joy.

And giving us things that give us joy is also one of the several ways He can use to give us joy!

Dtruthspeaker:


And giving us things that give us joy is also one of the several ways He can use to give us joy!

things like what? Nothing can give joy except God, we're on earth where God works miracleliously and he can't give us joy on earth because he works miracleliously on earth i.e uses men to help men, using prophet/pastors to heal men spiritually, but in heaven, we will definately see God and his mighty works and he will give us joy. God will give us joy in heaven and it's writen.

Dtruthspeaker:


You said "We won't have an earthly body there so we won't care for earthly things"

And I am saying we would be having the new earthly body, recreated for that new earth.

shouldn't all christian have the same answer or why are there difference or is it not the same bible you're all reading anyway Dtruthspeaker I have no comment for you since the Time you said the girl killed by the brt driver deserve it since then I knew whatever you may say it's trash

cornelboy:
Misinformed church goers full here.

The first man was initially created to live forever on earth with physical body.
If Adam hadn't sinmed, he would be here with us today.

Only few people (little flock) are/will be with Jesus in God's Kingdom. The little flock are the 144000 mentioned in the book of revelations.
They will be kings and priests ruling together with Jesus who will be their king.

The rest of the righteous will remain on earth or die and remain in their grave till resurrection.

Jesus will bring the kingdom in his second coming and fulfill God's will for earth.

At the end, after Satan and his followers have been eternally destroyed, God will make his home with the righteous that remain right here on earth (new earth, paradise).

Revelation 21:2-4
[2]And I saw the holy city, the new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven like a bride beautifully dressed for her husband.
[3]I heard a loud shout from the throne, saying, “Look, God’s home is now among his people! He will live with them, and they will be his people. God himself will be with them.
[4]He will wipe every tear from their eyes, and there will be no more death or sorrow or crying or pain. All these things are gone forever.”

Why didn't Jesus mention any of that and he said he is preparing a place so they can be with him or is that not from the bible

Tobedated:

Why didn't Jesus mention any of that and he said he is preparing a place so they can be with him or is that not from the bible

The 144000 in the book of revelations are the people he said he would prepare a place for.

Let's discuss Jesus's prayer in Matthew 6
"Let your kingdom come", "let your will be done on earth", what do you think Jesus was praying bout here?

At Isaiah 9:6, what's the government that will be on Jesus's shoulder?

Daniel 2:44
[44]“During the reigns of those kings, the God of heaven will set up a kingdom that will never be destroyed or conquered. It will crush all these kingdoms into nothingness, and it will stand forever.

Is the kingdom of God the same as heaven ? No!
Heaven is the abode of God and it's has been created since the beginning.
In the above verse we see that the kingdom was established at a point in time.

Just like how every Nigerian can't be in aso rock, is the same way every true followers of Christ can't be in the kingdom.

This kingdom under the rulership of Jesus is coming to restore peace to earth.

Sheddy5:

1. Read the whole of Genesis.

2. Because God said so.

Lol. Just give us the verses na.
Whole of genesis bi ti bawo.

Sheddy5:

if you're righteous, that mean you're doing God's will. Check mathew 7:22

Where do you think the judgement will take place, inside heaven or here on earth?

Tobedated:
As far as i know all heaven offer is
1 eternal life
2 peace
3 playing with wild animals
4 and praising god forever but what heaven takes away because of this should be scary
1 eternity - but doing what, have you ever stay home doing nothing before with no technology in heaven isn't that torture like can you imagine how your mental health will go in the drain from having nothing to do at least on earth you can kill yourself but don't forget eternal life damn.

2 peace is a good offer but once again at what cost remember in heaven there is no such thing as family as jesus explain with the women with multiple husband, all that makes life worth it is the friends and family one makes along the way all that gone because of peace that have no meaning because all you doing is one thing is it worth it also don't forget your friends from another religion all in hell

3 who the Bleep want that like that just stupid

4 can't that be done on earth where things are more fun than being an object showering god praise

ignorance!
You are like a man in a dark filthy room imagining the whole world must be like that too.

Heaven is a sinless and perfect place, even lucifer never wanted to leave heaven he was forced out of heaven. This present earth with all her technology past present and future is like poo hole compared to heaven.

Tobedated:
shouldn't all christian have the same answer or why are there difference or is it not the same bible you're all reading

Still the same way people had the same textbooks to do a certain assignment and they still managed to have different answers

Tobedated:
... anyway Dtruthspeaker I have no comment for you since the Time you said the girl killed by the brt driver deserve it since then I knew whatever you may say it's trash

Saying The Truth, tends to offend people, but I'll.say it and the most important thing is that what I say is True as confirmed and affirmed by the people directly affected. If you have not been stolen from, then you would not understand why people beat thieves. If you have not been cheated upon, then you would not understand why a wife cuts your penis. If you have not been set up to be raped to death, then you can not understand when the evil bitch who set you up gets raped to death herself. O what sweet just is.

Sheddy5:

things like what? Nothing can give joy except God, we're on earth where God works miracleliously and he can't give us joy on earth because he works miracleliously on earth i.e uses men to help men, using prophet/pastors to heal men spiritually,

O what a terrible narrow thinking, thinking that joy only comes from people.

Remember the joy of "rain rain go away" while dancing in the rain? Or rain football? Or the beach or stream? Or rolling in the carpet grass or climbing trees and jumping from branch to branch.

All these things gave us great joys!

Therefore, apart from people, He Gave us things that gave us joys.

Dtruthspeaker:


O what a terrible narrow thinking, thinking that joy only comes from people.

Remember the joy of "rain rain go away" while dancing in the rain? Or rain football? Or the beach or stream? Or rolling in the carpet grass or climbing trees and jumping from branch to branch.

All these things gave us great joys!

Therefore, apart from people, He Gave us things that gave us joys.

that is happines not joy, joy is forever happiness, if that gives you joy then where's the joy now? Only God gives joy.

cornelboy:


Where do you think the judgement will take place, inside heaven or here on earth?

at the gate of heaven, close to hellfire.

cornelboy:

Lol. Just give us the verses na.
Whole of genesis bi ti bawo.

Genesis is an amazing chapter, i've read the whole of it long ago and it's an amazing read, you can do the same.