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Re: US Senators Working Towards Freezing Russia's $132billion in Gold Reserves. by MT: 1:35pm On Mar 23, 2022
Eguaikide:
Do they have their gold reserve in America or what The Russians �� are superpowers on their own, so why would they want to store their reserves in the United States ��

Sit this discourse out. This is beyond you. Rather, ask questions to understand how it works.

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Re: US Senators Working Towards Freezing Russia's $132billion in Gold Reserves. by juman(m): 1:36pm On Mar 23, 2022
mployer:


At the moment they can't use it.

They will be broke while fighting a war.

Broke?

Forty percent of EU energy supply came from Russia.
That is lot of money. grin
Re: US Senators Working Towards Freezing Russia's $132billion in Gold Reserves. by Igbofam: 1:36pm On Mar 23, 2022
Ojemedad:


Please enlighten me, why do an independent country keep its money,gold and other assets in other countries?

One word.....INVESTMENTS! Every country invests in anything very lucrative in another country. Sadly that other country would wield some level of control over it since it is done in accordance with the laws of that country.

This is why the world is a global village and no country can absolutely survive alone. This is why the world needs peace but some due to selfish agendas and personal warped philosophies such as what Putin has, ends up burning down everything without any regard to how interconnected the world has become

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Re: US Senators Working Towards Freezing Russia's $132billion in Gold Reserves. by sukkot: 1:36pm On Mar 23, 2022
sunkoye:
how? Please respond with facts and figures.
all the industries in the usa have been moved to china. usa produces nothing. everything in the usa is shipped from china. and usa owes china trillions of dollars. so if china decides to cut them off as decribed in the movie BIRD BOX, USA will descend into third world anarchy overnight

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Re: US Senators Working Towards Freezing Russia's $132billion in Gold Reserves. by sukkot: 1:37pm On Mar 23, 2022
Igbofam:


Lmao the west actually owns 70% of China's economy
all the industries in the usa have been moved to china. usa produces nothing. everything in the usa is shipped from china. and usa owes china trillions of dollars. so if china decides to cut them off as decribed in the movie BIRD BOX, USA will descend into third world anarchy overnight

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Re: US Senators Working Towards Freezing Russia's $132billion in Gold Reserves. by Igbofam: 1:40pm On Mar 23, 2022
sukkot:
all the industries in the usa have been moved to china. usa produces nothing. everything in the usa is shipped from china. and usa owes china trillions of dollars. so if china decides to cut them off as decribed in the movie BIRD BOX, USA will descend into third world anarchy overnight

Again WRONG!

What you just stated here simply means that the Chinese economy is largely dependent on the west cheesy

It is the west that made China and not the other way around.

The US is capable of producing ANYTHING. They just use China due to cheaper labour and cheaper production prices.

If they unilaterally pull out from China, China is FINITO, KAPUT, ENDED!

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Re: US Senators Working Towards Freezing Russia's $132billion in Gold Reserves. by Jeezuzpick(m): 1:40pm On Mar 23, 2022
Rastaramsey:
That is all they ever want to do grin grin
Freeze and freeze for their selfish interest.....

They were never concerned with the war

Those Niggars are greedy.....

I hope zelensky dey see things from my perspective....

In fact, I will go a step further to say the Americans caused the war.

If they wanted proximity, they already have it. They should go and plant missile silos in Alaska.

If not for the enterprising man that saw Alaska for what it was, and had the US buy it from Russia, the US would have had a land border with Russia!

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Re: US Senators Working Towards Freezing Russia's $132billion in Gold Reserves. by sukkot: 1:42pm On Mar 23, 2022
Igbofam:


Again WRONG!

What you just stated here simply means that the Chinese economy is largely dependent on the west cheesy

It is the west that made China and not the other way around.

The US is capable of producing ANYTHING. They just use China due to cheaper labour and cheaper production prices.

If they unilaterally pull out from China, China is FINITO, KAPUT, ENDED!
used to be , but they are correcting that by foraying into africa. everything in africa is shipped from china so they dont need the usa again. once china decides to cut the usa off ? they are done. learn geopolitics bro. this is not about emotionalism

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Re: US Senators Working Towards Freezing Russia's $132billion in Gold Reserves. by toxtimmy: 1:44pm On Mar 23, 2022
Wrong.... look for the end result... the end result is the key... You can apply make up and lip stick to a rabid dog like the US and it's still a rabid dog.

Iran with all the sanctions and freeze of assets by the US have so much advanced in terms of militarily and self sufficiency that the US/Isreal is threatened by Iran's advancement that US is focused on lifting Irans sanctions and all Isreal does is threaten everyday they will attack Iran... At the end of the day Iran will get all their frozen asset back.

As for Russia they have tons of business partners to do business without using the west monetary system... Russia is one of the most technologically advanced country in the world and they are big time into farming as well... They have a lot of natural resources as well... And even with this sanctions from the US is still importing natural resources from Russia... Germany the same... France is still doing billion dollar business in the Russia right now as I type... I can go on and on... But at the end of the day nothing can make you change you from seeing things from the outside unless you want to yourself.

2/3 of the world don't give a f...ck about sanction from US/EU on Russia and will do business with Russia... Africa as a continent will do business with Russia on a daily basis... Think about this for a moment, if Russia sells weapons only to Africa that will run into billions of dollars yearly... But I hope African leaders focus more on doing business outside weapons with Russia simply because EuroAsia is the future.

Let them keep on sanctioning and freezing while tens of thousands of Ukrainians die... Ukraine as a country does not exist anymore and as long as this war continues Ukraine will turn into a graveyard... But guess what? US / EU don't care.

Igbofam:


Wrong! Russia and China together hold about 34% while the rest are incidentally held by the USA and other NATO nations.

If they want to cripple Russia's economy by more than half they can and the first step is the freezing of their gold reserves.

The US are not dumb to want to freeze some of Russia's gold reserves if they did not have access or some kind of control over it.

The west virtually Owns Russia grin

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Re: US Senators Working Towards Freezing Russia's $132billion in Gold Reserves. by juman(m): 1:46pm On Mar 23, 2022
God bless ordinary Americans.

But look and look, their politicians are very very stupid. Most of them.
Stupid trump is more intelligent than most of them.

If America want to borrow one trillion dollars to fight a senseless war, within one or two days their senate and the house would approve it.

But it would take them more than a year to debate if they desire to borrow one hundred billion dollars to build their infrastructure. Even at the end they would reduce it to half.

Very stupid politicians.

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Re: US Senators Working Towards Freezing Russia's $132billion in Gold Reserves. by Help2020: 1:47pm On Mar 23, 2022
Kastonkastroll:
Clowns and after freezing those reserves; what next? Stupid bullies calling themselves NATO. Finally the found their match in Russia. grin
Don't mind them. Don't expand further to our border is all Russia said,is that too much for them to understand?

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Re: US Senators Working Towards Freezing Russia's $132billion in Gold Reserves. by Igbofam: 1:47pm On Mar 23, 2022
sukkot:
used to be , but they are correcting that by foraying into africa. everything in africa is shipped from china so they dont need the usa again. once china decides to cut the usa off ? they are done. learn geopolitics bro. this is not about emotionalism

You need to sit this one out. I do business all over the world as a broker dealer and I can tell you for free that even the Chinese would tell you that their economy depends on the west to Thrive.

This is a simple game US holds the aces to. The west largely determines how quickly or slowly China can rise up.

Why do you think the USA runs a largely liberal immigration program and push "human rights" forward.

How many business are comfortable investing in China as against the west? China is mainly an output source for the west while the west is an input source for the entire world.

There is an adage that when one person cooks for you, you can finish the food but when the community cooks for you, you can never eat it all no matter how hard you try.

In a nutshell the little adage above explains why USA is the largest, wealthiest, most powerful nation in the world.

You need to go learn Geopolitics bro. Sit this one out

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Re: US Senators Working Towards Freezing Russia's $132billion in Gold Reserves. by Truvelisback(m): 1:47pm On Mar 23, 2022
U.S Sellnators, make una take am easy ooo.
Re: US Senators Working Towards Freezing Russia's $132billion in Gold Reserves. by Bluffly: 1:47pm On Mar 23, 2022
Kastonkastroll:
Clowns and after freezing those reserves; what next? Stupid bullies calling themselves NATO. Finally they found their match in Russia. grin
Which found their match. If Russia get levels why are they not sanctioning USA NATO in all their adventures all this while. Russia has always been at loggerhead with the USA so nothing like finding a match here.

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Re: US Senators Working Towards Freezing Russia's $132billion in Gold Reserves. by Lightorder: 1:48pm On Mar 23, 2022
Kastonkastroll:
Clowns and after freezing those reserves; what next? Stupid bullies calling themselves NATO. Finally the found their match in Russia. grin
I don’t think Putin would share same view with you
Re: US Senators Working Towards Freezing Russia's $132billion in Gold Reserves. by juman(m): 1:49pm On Mar 23, 2022
America is overrated country.
Their politicians are like politicians in third world countries.

Very aimless politicians.

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Re: US Senators Working Towards Freezing Russia's $132billion in Gold Reserves. by Igbofam: 1:50pm On Mar 23, 2022
toxtimmy:
Wrong.... look for the end result... the end result is the key... You can apply make up and lip stick to a rabid dog like the US and it's still a rabid dog.

Iran with all the sanctions and freeze of assets by the US have so much advanced in terms of militarily and self sufficiency that the US/Isreal is threatened by Iran's advancement that US is focused on lifting Irans sanctions and all Isreal does is threaten everyday they will attack Iran... At the end of the day Iran will get all their frozen asset back.

As for Russia they have tons of business partners to do business without using the west monetary system... Russia is one of the most technologically advanced country in the world and they are big time into farming as well... They have a lot of natural resources as well... And even with this sanctions from the US is still importing natural resources from Russia... Germany the same... France is still doing billion dollar business in the Russia right now as I type... I can go on and on... But at the end of the day nothing can make you change you from seeing things from the outside unless you want to yourself.

2/3 of the world don't give a f...ck about sanction from US/EU on Russia and will do business with Russia... Africa as a continent will do business with Russia on a daily basis... Think about this for a moment, if Russia sells weapons only to Africa that will run into billions of dollars yearly... But I hope African leaders focus more on doing business outside weapons with Russia simply because EuroAsia is the future.


Iran, North Korea and the rest of them have not even experienced 1/100 of what Russia is facing now in terms of Sanctions.

Russia is getting the great great great grandmother of all sanctions and already the Russian economy is in massive decline. Job losses in the thousands already, Useless currency, stock exchange evaporated....

All in less than a month of sanctions. Imagine these sanctions being sustained for just 1 more year or even 6 months.

When you spend more than you make you will eventually go broke. That will be Russia's story eventually

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Re: US Senators Working Towards Freezing Russia's $132billion in Gold Reserves. by sukkot: 1:51pm On Mar 23, 2022
Igbofam:


You need to sit this one out. I do business all over the world as a broker dealer and I can tell you for free that even the Chinese would tell you that their economy depends on the west to Thrive.

This is a simply game US holds the aces to. The west largely determines how quickly or slowly China can ride up.

Why do you think the USA runs a largely liberal immigration program and push "human rights" forward.

How many business are comfortable investing in China as against the west? China is mainly an output source for the west while the west is an input source for the entire world.

There is an adage that when one person cooks for you, you can finish the food but when the community cooks for you, you can never eat it all no matter how hard you try.

In a nutshell the little adage above explains why USA is the largest, wealthiest, most powerful nation in the world.

You need to go learn Geopolitics bro. Sit this one out
bro you are just being emotional. even bible tells you the borrower is always subject and a slave to the lender. everyone sees that the usa is dying and crumbling hence why all these wars are happening because the new players want to take center stage. china is with russia. forget that emotional talk bro, usa is finished and china and russia are angling to put the death blow in.

roughly $1.08 trillion
How much money does the U.S. owe to China? China owns roughly $1.08 trillion worth of U.S. debt

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Re: US Senators Working Towards Freezing Russia's $132billion in Gold Reserves. by Help2020: 1:52pm On Mar 23, 2022
Igbofam:


Wrong! Russia and China together hold about 34% while the rest are incidentally held by the USA and other NATO nations.

If they want to cripple Russia's economy by more than half they can and the first step is the freezing of their gold reserves.

The US are not dumb to want to freeze some of Russia's gold reserves if they did not have access or some kind of control over it.

The west virtually Owns Russia grin
You over rate this your US,sorry US is not urs.

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Re: US Senators Working Towards Freezing Russia's $132billion in Gold Reserves. by Nobody: 1:52pm On Mar 23, 2022
sapientia:
I don't envy the clowns above me who can't read

Russia will have it sooo bad

Problem now is

Where will they buy from?

Who has the money to buy it back

Answer to the above is USA

Infact, stopping business with USA will hurt any economy even China
“Infact, stopping business with USA will hurt any economy even China“ Will hurt Global economy. The same applies to stopping to do business with China as well.
Ordinary Russia economy is affecting prices of commodities already.

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Re: US Senators Working Towards Freezing Russia's $132billion in Gold Reserves. by LadiesForever(f): 1:53pm On Mar 23, 2022
Rastaramsey:
That is all they ever want to do grin grin
Freeze and freeze for their selfish interest.....

They were never concerned with the war

Those Niggars are greedy.....

I hope zelensky dey see things from my perspective....

If you don't have money to buy weapons how can you fuel a war or did you not know that even Russia buys weapons from the EU?
They buy high grade rifles from Germany, bombs from France and electronic devices from S.Korea and Japan


Futhermore, lack of funds affects their economy.
Ever seen an economically battered country that can fund a war or feed it's people?

Even a father uses financial deprivation to teach his kids a lesson and break their will.



Sense is free.

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Re: US Senators Working Towards Freezing Russia's $132billion in Gold Reserves. by Igbofam: 1:53pm On Mar 23, 2022
sukkot:
bro you are just being emotional. even bible tells you the borrower is always subject and a slave to the lender. everyone sees that the usa is dying and crumbling hence why all these wars are happening because the new players want to take center stage. china is with russia. forget that emotional talk bro, usa is finished and china and russia are angling to put the death blow in.

roughly $1.08 trillion
How much money does the U.S. owe to China? China owns roughly $1.08 trillion worth of U.S. debt

Debt can always be paid in Kind. Sit this one out. The world does not revolve around cash alone

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Re: US Senators Working Towards Freezing Russia's $132billion in Gold Reserves. by Nobody: 1:54pm On Mar 23, 2022
Rastaramsey:
That is all they ever want to do grin grin
Freeze and freeze for their selfish interest.....

They were never concerned with the war

Those Niggars are greedy.....

I hope zelensky dey see things from my perspective....
naaa. That guy has an agenda
Re: US Senators Working Towards Freezing Russia's $132billion in Gold Reserves. by webizone(m): 1:55pm On Mar 23, 2022
Igbofam:


Wrong! Russia and China together hold about 34% while the rest are incidentally held by the USA and other NATO nations.

If they want to cripple Russia's economy by more than half they can and the first step is the freezing of their gold reserves.

The US are not dumb to want to freeze some of Russia's gold reserves if they did not have access or some kind of control over it.

The west virtually Owns Russia grin

Nah. U might not be getting it. Total Gold value is not just the metal, but the contracts on the metal. Infact, majority of "gold" is the contracts which are mainly traded in the US and London. It just means that they will be blocked from trading their Gold. Having Gold means not really much in the modern world if there's no market to trade it smoothly.

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Re: US Senators Working Towards Freezing Russia's $132billion in Gold Reserves. by Bellerophon: 1:59pm On Mar 23, 2022
bobbybrown007:
They are all thieves, finding way to steal their reserve and also making sure that their is no hope for them. Lemme predict what might happen in the nearest future

(1)Russia will have no choice than to remove themselves from European union
(2) they will want to strengthen their ties with asian counties,
(3)they will remove all their money from where ever bank they have been keeping their money , their currency will become better than that of the dollar
(4)they will still claim all those countries that they let go off and they will still be under Russia
(5)They will shut down their airspace for some countries who are not in terms with them
(6)Putin will still be in power and they will not do any thing about his removal .

I have never read anything more foolish and illogical! Do you even think at all?
1.Russia is not a part of the EU as a political block rather is a country located in geopolitical part of the world rightly called EUROPE

2.International relations and foreign policy of countries are influenced by sundry factors like political and economic ideologies, historical and cultural affinity and the likes! Asian Geo politics particularly south East Asia’s rightly aligns with that of Eastern Europe! Communist China has always been tethered very closely to Russia, with their adoption and history with communism a very strong bond! So there will be no tectonic shift of alliances as you wrongly surmise as these alliances have always been existent from the era of the Cold War

3.The purchasing power of a currency is not remotely connected with storage or deposit rather indices like frequency of use and volume of transaction in global trade receipts, universal integration of the currency to the global financial market and of course the ever present principle of demand and supply! Withdrawing your money from American or western banks doesn’t prop the value of the currency, it is economic ignorance to even so surmise!

4.The world is not a fiefdom, the Balkanization of the USSR was a product of the decision of the member states that made up the erstwhile Soviet republic! The concept of statehood and political sovereignty is sacrosanct in international relations and politics as it is the very foundation of which society and government as an institution of state is predicated! Lol Russia can NEVER wholly annex or incorporate and collapse the sovereignty of an independent state with the effect of absorbing the country wholly as an indivisible part of the Russian Federation! It is impossible!

5. Russia’s aviation industry is not even half as big as the USA or China’s, so it is a sector of the economy the Russians will be desirous to grow! It is counter productive economically to close your airspace to flights from countries on the basis of political affiliations when such flights can substantially grow the volumes and revenue of that particular sector of the economy! Even Iran still allows Commercial flights from the west and America fly it’s airspace, not only is it economically suicidal it is also against statutes, treaties, conventions and agreement that guarantee the freedom of navigation and aviation in the worlds airspace many of which Russia is a signatory to!

6.At no point has it being western foreign policy to attempt regime change in countries it considers strategic adversaries and competitors! Your lack of knowledge of international politics and relations makes it impossible for you to understand that the bifurcation of the world along the lines of political and economic ideologies is a very delicate one that needs to be balance and equilibrium maintained at all times! Even at the height of the Cold War, America never attempted a regime change in Moscow understanding the gravity of the consequences of a political fallout in the event of failure of such mission! The iron curtain even if you many has fallen continues to remain till this day! American foreign policy and weapon has been Democracy and Capitalism, just as the East has exported communism and mixed or government controlled economy

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Re: US Senators Working Towards Freezing Russia's $132billion in Gold Reserves. by sukkot: 2:00pm On Mar 23, 2022
Igbofam:


Debt can always be paid in Kind. Sit this one out. The world does not revolve around cash alone
debt can be paid in kind but the usa has shipped all its industries to china so right now they can only survive on borrowing and more borrowing. USA is finished. it was sold out to china by its illuminated elites who have all cashed out and run to britain while they wait for the usa to collapse. the rotcshilds and rockefellers. see you dont understand what is going on here. america has been sold out to china tto recover its debts by the american elites. america now belongs to china on paper but when this war gets real heavy china is coming to collect. russia will destroy them militarily while china destroys them economically. all planned out by the usa elites who have cashed out and run to england. they know the usa is no longer a viabLe cash cow. its a place of liabilities. they have millions of army personnel retired who are expecting pensions every week etc. its not a viable entity anymore. its costing them money so they have sold it out to china. THE ROTSCHILDS. JEWISH BANKERS WHO OWN THE USA FEDEREAL RESERVE.

SIT THIS ONE OUT BRO, YOU ARE A ROOKIE

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Re: US Senators Working Towards Freezing Russia's $132billion in Gold Reserves. by excel101(m): 2:02pm On Mar 23, 2022
Rastaramsey:
That is all they ever want to do grin grin
Freeze and freeze for their selfish interest.....

They were never concerned with the war

Those Niggars are greedy.....

I hope zelensky dey see things from my perspective....
My brother nothing that is more of an evil than consistently taking people's lives inspire of the pleas.
Re: US Senators Working Towards Freezing Russia's $132billion in Gold Reserves. by webizone(m): 2:02pm On Mar 23, 2022
Dpharisee:
Outright thievery, but it seems Russia is really prepared for this outcome, they are issuing cheques to all their western creditors using those reserves, it means that Russian creditors from the west are also being punished as attempts to make Russia default has failed.
It's like you are owing you are owing the younger brother of Tony Elumelu and you have money in UBA and issue him a cheque, then the bank says it has network issues, you can't be said to have defaulted because you have money in your account with UBA, it's for him to put pressure on his brother to get his money and he can't force you to take money from First Bank and pay him

Na next level chess, I tell ya.
Re: US Senators Working Towards Freezing Russia's $132billion in Gold Reserves. by Bigchristo: 2:05pm On Mar 23, 2022
sapientia:
I don't envy the clowns above me who can't read

Russia will have it sooo bad

Problem now is

Where will they buy from?

Who has the money to buy it back

Answer to the above is USA

Infact, stopping business with USA will hurt any economy even China
Stop talking trash to freeze a country assets requires legal process, Russia will get their assets back after everything all these moves are just criminal minded moves by USA

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Re: US Senators Working Towards Freezing Russia's $132billion in Gold Reserves. by excel101(m): 2:08pm On Mar 23, 2022
sukkot:
bro you are just being emotional. even bible tells you the borrower is always subject and a slave to the lender. everyone sees that the usa is dying and crumbling hence why all these wars are happening because the new players want to take center stage. china is with russia. forget that emotional talk bro, usa is finished and china and russia are angling to put the death blow in.

roughly $1.08 trillion
How much money does the U.S. owe to China? China owns roughly $1.08 trillion worth of U.S. debt
story teller. A broke or finished country can't be acting the way US is.

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Re: US Senators Working Towards Freezing Russia's $132billion in Gold Reserves. by pacespot(m): 2:09pm On Mar 23, 2022
That dollar is everything in today's world economy, that is why USA will do anything to keep it that way.

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