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Why Jehovah Is A Massive Failure by Ertugrul: 6:41pm On Mar 30, 2022
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Re: Why Jehovah Is A Massive Failure by edego2up(m): 8:04pm On Mar 30, 2022
If so as proclaim by you, what then do you have to say about the nation of Israel?
Please go back and read your history very seriously
Israel till date have remain a strong and United States
Though many of your like have been trying to pollutes them with your evil fondamentalism
Can you equate Israel with Nigeria?
So, don't be surprised you are not going through the right part,God is supreme and he is Jehovah, have the keys of the heavens and the earth
Re: Why Jehovah Is A Massive Failure by LordReed(m): 8:53pm On Mar 30, 2022
Ertugrul:
The Extra-terretial God of the Israel(Jehovah or Yahweh) failed massively in his attempt to create a state for the Israelites...
He led the Israelites on a genocidal campaign after their exodus from Egypt, he took advantage of the absence of the Extra-terrestial Gods of other nations and aided the Israelites to conquer these nations....
It is obvious that at some point, beings from other planets created and ruled over humanity, they also created states to assert their rule ..
The Egyptian Gods created the Egyptian states, the Greek Gods, Oduduwa of yorubas..vishnu and co of india..the anunakis of mesopotamia...the list goes on and on...
These Gods created strong states that left a long lasting legacy on humanity...

The bible God could not achieve this feat, his states was conquered by different empires untill it was resurrected by the British empire..
Who is the extra terrestrial god of China?

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Re: Why Jehovah Is A Massive Failure by Ertugrul: 8:53pm On Mar 30, 2022
edego2up:
If so as proclaim by you, what then do you have to say about the nation of Israel?
Please go back and read your history very seriously
Israel till date have remain a strong and United States
Though many of your like have been trying to pollutes them with your evil fondamentalism
Can you equate Israel with Nigeria?
So, don't be surprised you are not going through the right part,God is supreme and he is Jehovah, have the keys of the heavens and the earth


Read and understand my post, Jehovah failed in his mission to create a state for the Israelites... Israel is only existing today because of the British and the American led order that has enabled it to survive...
Israel as we know it today was created by the British and was immediately recognized by the Harry Truman led government of the United States...even the soviet union recognized it immediately...the US has massively funded Israel so it can survive...do u know how many years the jews have had to be subjugated before the British gave them statehood

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Re: Why Jehovah Is A Massive Failure by Ertugrul: 8:57pm On Mar 30, 2022
LordReed:

Who is the extra terrestrial god of China?
The Chinese worshipped many Gods... these Gods helped and taught them stuffs they used to build their societies, medicine, architecture, e.t.c...china is not a homogeneous nation, there are different ethnicities who have different deities...

Re: Why Jehovah Is A Massive Failure by Ertugrul: 9:08pm On Mar 30, 2022
these are some of chinese Gods and their impact on their people...
meanwhile jehovah did not have any meaningful impact on his people...only giving them rules and strict laws to ensure order and stability during the exodus...



Sānhuáng — Three Patrons (or Augusts) or 三才 Sāncái — Three Potencies; they are the "vertical" manifestation of Heaven spatially corresponding to the Three Realms (三界 Sānjiè), representing the yin and yang and the medium between them, that is the human being:

伏羲 Fúxī the patron of heaven (天皇 Tiānhuáng), also called Bāguàzǔshī (八卦祖師 "Venerable Inventor of the Bagua"wink by the Taoists, is a divine man reputed to have taught to humanity writing, fishing, and hunting.
女媧 Nǚwā the patron of earth (地皇 Dehuáng), is a goddess attributed for the creation of mankind and mending the order of the world when it was broken.
神農 Shénnóng — Peasant God, the patron of humanity (人皇 Rénhuáng), identified as Yándì (炎帝 "Flame Deity" or "Fiery Deity"wink, a divine man said to have taught the techniques of farming, herbal medicine and marketing. He is often represented as a human with horns and other features of an ox.
Re: Why Jehovah Is A Massive Failure by Ertugrul: 9:11pm On Mar 30, 2022
The story of Gods impacting humans with knowledge can be found in so many cultures...from the native Americans to Indians e.t.c....this transfer of knowledge helped early humans build better sophisticated societies...
Re: Why Jehovah Is A Massive Failure by Ertugrul: 9:15pm On Mar 30, 2022
List of some yoruba Gods...you can see their functions , they transferred knowledge to their people and this enabled their people to grow,develop and adapt to the world when they left...
These Gods at some point went back to their planet...



Ọbalúayé - orisha of the Earth and strongly associated with infectious disease and healing
Erinlẹ̀ - an elephant hunter and physician to the gods
Èṣù - Èṣù is the orisha of crossroads, duality, beginnings and balance
Ibeji - twin orisha of vitality and youth
Lógunẹ̀dẹ - a warrior and hunter
Ọbàtálá - creator of human bodies; orisha of light, spiritual purity, and moral uprightness
Odùduwà - progenitor orisha of the Yorubas
Ògún - orisha who presides over iron, fire, hunting, agriculture and war
Okó - a hunter and farmer
Osanyin - orisha of the forest, herbs and medicine
Oṣùmàrè - divine rainbow serpent associated with creation and procreation
Ọ̀ṣọ́ọ̀sì - orisha of the hunt, forest, strategy and of the knowledge
Ṣàngó - orisha of the thunders and lightnings
Re: Why Jehovah Is A Massive Failure by LordReed(m): 9:16pm On Mar 30, 2022
Ertugrul:

The Chinese worshipped many Gods... these Gods helped and taught them stuffs they used to build their societies, medicine, architecture, e.t.c...china is not a homogeneous nation, there are different ethnicities who have different deities...

And how many Chinese worship these gods?
Re: Why Jehovah Is A Massive Failure by Ertugrul: 9:17pm On Mar 30, 2022
LordReed:


And how many Chinese worship these gods?

This ur question get as e be....i no understand you
Re: Why Jehovah Is A Massive Failure by KnownUnknown: 9:26pm On Mar 30, 2022
Ertugrul:

These Gods at some point went back to their planet...


Did the Reptilians come after them or were they contemporaries?
Some say the Reptilians are still running things. Are they in cahoots with the Gods and communicating through sublime frequencies?
What about the Annunakis?
Re: Why Jehovah Is A Massive Failure by LordReed(m): 9:35pm On Mar 30, 2022
Ertugrul:


This ur question get as e be....i no understand you

You said extra terrestrial gods made nations so how many Chinese people worship these extra terrestrial gods you mentioned?
Re: Why Jehovah Is A Massive Failure by Ertugrul: 9:40pm On Mar 30, 2022
KnownUnknown:


Did the Reptilians come after them or were they contemporaries?
Some say the Reptilians are still running things. Are they in cahoots with the Gods and communicating through sublime frequencies?
What about the Annunakis?

This is very complex...
Perosnally i believe there's no Monopoly on which species are running Earth , there are different species with their own interests...the anunakis are Mentioned in sumerian mythology and might be one of the first to have visited earth because ancient sumeria is the oldest civilization according to our knowledge so far...
Its difficult to rationalize this topic because its very complex and we humans have lost most of our history...
Re: Why Jehovah Is A Massive Failure by KnownUnknown: 9:54pm On Mar 30, 2022
Ertugrul:


This is very complex...
Perosnally i believe there's no Monopoly on which species are running Earth , there are different species with their own interests...the anunakis are Mentioned in sumerian mythology and might be one of the first to have visited earth because ancient sumeria is the oldest civilization according to our knowledge so far...
Its difficult to rationalize this topic because its very complex and we humans have lost most of our history...

People are saying the Orcs warred with the Reptilians over the Holy Grail. The Nazis found it in the arctic during WWII and they said the Orcs came back in the 1940s and 1950s to retrieve the Holy Grail and also the Ark. You’ve heard about Roswell? I’ve been there!!! They even have McDonald’s that looks like a spaceship.
Really complex stuff.
Re: Why Jehovah Is A Massive Failure by Ertugrul: 10:39pm On Mar 30, 2022
quote author=KnownUnknown post=111513276]

People are saying the Orcs warred with the Reptilians over the Holy Grail. The Nazis found it in the arctic during WWII and they said the Orcs came back in the 1940s and 1950s to retrieve the Holy Grail and also the Ark. You’ve heard about Roswell? I’ve been there!!! They even have McDonald’s that looks like a spaceship.
Really complex stuff.[/quote]

I know the Nazis were heavily involved with alien stuffs...i don't know about orcs...
Yes the Roswell incident has really intrigued me so much....when next u visit there...u could visit locals and ask some questions...there would be some old people who their parents must have told them some things about what happened...
I believe the ark must have bn a very strong tech device
Re: Why Jehovah Is A Massive Failure by KnownUnknown: 12:46am On Mar 31, 2022
Ertugrul:


I know the Nazis were heavily involved with alien stuffs...i don't know about orcs...
Yes the Roswell incident has really intrigued me so much....when next u visit there...u could visit locals and ask some questions...there would be some old people who their parents must have told them some things about what happened...
I believe the ark must have bn a very strong tech device

I spoke to ol’ Jim Bob from nearby Clovis. He said a boy met a two headed ET back in the summer of 1969 and the Air Force quickly whisked him, his parents, and four siblings to an undisclosed location. Witness Protection Program. These two headed ETs are what the the townspeople called Orcs. The ark is a quantum entanglement warp drive used to terraform sections of planetary bodies to suit ET physiology. It is the key to multi planetary existence.
Re: Why Jehovah Is A Massive Failure by Ertugrul: 4:21am On Mar 31, 2022
KnownUnknown:


I spoke to ol’ Jim Bob from nearby Clovis. He said a boy met a two headed ET back in the summer of 1969 and the Air Force quickly whisked him, his parents, and four siblings to an undisclosed location. Witness Protection Program. These two headed ETs are what the the townspeople called Orcs. The ark is a quantum entanglement warp drive used to terraform sections of planetary bodies to suit ET physiology. It is the key to multi planetary existence.

This is amazing, so many things happened in the aftermath of Roswell... wow i see...this alien topic is a very interesting one...its puzzling and very complex to wrap one's head around...
Re: Why Jehovah Is A Massive Failure by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:40am On Mar 31, 2022
This is the reason why JEHOVAH sent out His WITNESSES throughout the earth!
Had it been you studied His word with those sent to come and discuss with you you will know better.
First of all JEHOVAH wasn't planning to rule the world of rebellious humans because Satan is their God and he has assigned different Spirits (fallen angels/demons) to rule over various domains so don't think JEHOVAH wants to drag that with Satan.
Secondly JEHOVAH only chose a nation to serve as example for others to distinguish between those worshiping the true God and worshipers of demons so know today that all other nations were worshiping demons that's why they were fighting over lands as each demon also wants more worshipers and it's the humans they were using as puppets to fight for territories.

So when JEHOVAH chose the land of Canaan as a place to establish pure worship the demons keep instigating their own worshipers to go attacking God's people either to reclaim the land or dominate them. But JEHOVAH proved to be the Almighty as the Israelites keep conquering them. Satan knew that JEHOVAH has a standard and He won't change it so Satan used certain humans to lead God's people into sin that will irritate JEHOVAH and abandon His chosen people. Anytime this happens other nations will overpower the Israelites.
So how has JEHOVAH proved to be the Almighty today?
All those demons failed to fetch for Worshipers outside their domain as they only fight to kill and intimidate people so that such ones are forced to worship them. This has been the common way of getting more worshipers. These demons knew very well that JEHOVAH will not allow them to continue dominating mankind forever but they were trying hard to restrict JEHOVAH'S orders from reaching their own worshipers because they know that once JEHOVAH is able to get His own Witnesses throughout the globe then right thinking persons will notice the difference between the worshipers of the true God and worshipers of demons!
After JEHOVAH has sent his only begotten Son Jesus Christ to come and establish the preaching and teaching campaign that will get all races under pure worship, the demons began fighting to stop pure worship but when they discovered that true worshipers can't be intimidated and that they're fully prepared to lay down their lives for the propagation of pure worship the demons changed their system and 80% of them began claiming they're for the God of Abraham yet their way of dominance remains which is intimidating and forcing people under their domain.
Unsuspecting onlookers will conclude that the worshipers of such demons are for JEHOVAH but intelligent observers can see that they're not because JEHOVAH'S only begotten Son has ruled out the idea of forcing people to worship his father.
So it's still the same demons that are operating underG yet claiming they're for Jesus or the God of Israel.
Today JEHOVAH has vindicated His Holy name through the activities of His Witnesses who have separated themselves from all Worshipers of demons who are still fighting and killing themselves over domains {Revelations 6:3-4} JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES have formed one big and happy family of peace loving worshipers globally! Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3

So when you say "JEHOVAH failed" look into the matter critically and intelligently because JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES are brothers and sisters of their fellow believers whereas all other Gods have failed woefully to make LOVE, JOY and PEACE reign among their worshipers!

May you have PEACE! smiley

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Re: Why Jehovah Is A Massive Failure by Ertugrul: 8:07am On Mar 31, 2022
MaxInDHouse:
This is the reason why JEHOVAH sent out His WITNESSES throughout the earth!
Had it been you studied His word with those sent to come and discuss with you you will know better.
First of all JEHOVAH wasn't planning to rule the world of rebellious humans because Satan is their God and he has assigned different Spirits (fallen angels/demons) to rule over various domains so don't think JEHOVAH wants to drag that with Satan.
Secondly JEHOVAH only chose a nation to serve as example for others to distinguish between those worshiping the true God and worshipers of demons so know today that all other nations were worshiping demons that's why they were fighting over lands as each demon also wants more worshipers and it's the humans they were using as puppets to fight for territories.

So when JEHOVAH chose the land of Canaan as a place to establish pure worship the demons keep instigating their own worshipers to go attacking God's people either to reclaim the land or dominate them. But JEHOVAH proved to be the Almighty as the Israelites keep conquering them. Satan knew that JEHOVAH has a standard and He won't change it so Satan used certain humans to lead God's people into sin that will irritate JEHOVAH and abandon His chosen people. Anytime this happens other nations will overpower the Israelites.
So how has JEHOVAH proved to be the Almighty today?
All those demons failed to fetch for Worshipers outside their domain as they only fight to kill and intimidate people so that such ones are forced to worship them. This has been the common way of getting more worshipers. These demons knew very well that JEHOVAH will not allow them to continue dominating mankind forever but they were trying hard to restrict JEHOVAH'S orders from reaching their own worshipers because they know that once JEHOVAH is able to get His own Witnesses throughout the globe then right thinking persons will notice the difference between the worshipers of the true God and worshipers of demons!
After JEHOVAH has sent his only begotten Son Jesus Christ to come and establish the preaching and teaching campaign that will get all races under pure worship, the demons began fighting to stop pure worship but when they discovered that true worshipers can't be intimidated and that they're fully prepared to lay down their lives for the propagation of pure worship the demons changed their system and 80% of them began claiming they're for the God of Abraham yet their way of dominance remains which is intimidating and forcing people under their domain.
Unsuspecting onlookers will conclude that the worshipers of such demons are for JEHOVAH but intelligent observers can see that they're not because JEHOVAH'S only begotten Son has ruled out the idea of forcing people to worship his father.
So it's still the same demons that are operating underG yet claiming they're for Jesus or the God of Israel.
Today JEHOVAH has vindicated His Holy name through the activities of His Witnesses who have separated themselves from all Worshipers of demons who are still fighting and killing themselves over domains {Revelations 6:3-4} JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES have formed one big and happy family of peace loving worshipers globally! Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3

So when you say "JEHOVAH failed" look into the matter critically and intelligently because JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES are brothers and sisters of their fellow believers whereas all other Gods have failed woefully to make LOVE, JOY and PEACE reign among their worshipers!

May you have PEACE! smiley


Lol, your reasoning is very flawed because the world was not centered around the area of Israel... during the period when Jehovah led the Israelites, there were other massive civilizations already in existence....
What sense does it make to single out when nation as a symbol of ur authority and use them to wage war against others...u said God promised them canaan, wasn't canana already inhabited by its own people? The Israelites waged war on so many nations during their exodus in their bid for statehood, there is nothing spiritual about this, its is pure warfare, u can even see God given them instructions on how to handle women, slaves and spoils of war, even telling them not to assimilate these foreign captives...
Your assumption that the Israelites war on nations was a proxy war between Jehovah and demons in false because there's no report of the God's of these nations making any impact on their warfare....
I have to stick to the topic of this post, The quest for Israel statehood was a failure, the Israelites couldn't consolidate the territories they conquered...the state divided and the Babylonian conquest was the end and they fell into series of occupation because of the strategic location they occupied...
Re: Why Jehovah Is A Massive Failure by Ertugrul: 8:15am On Mar 31, 2022
Around 722 B.C., the Assyrians invaded and destroyed the northern kingdom of Israel. In 568 B.C., the Babylonians conquered Jerusalem and destroyed the first temple, which was replaced by a second temple in about 516 B.C.

For the next several centuries, the land of modern-day Israel was conquered and ruled by various groups, including the Persians, Greeks, Romans, Arabs, Fatimids, Seljuk Turks, Crusaders, Egyptians, Mamelukes, Islamists and others.


From 1517 to 1917, what is today Israel, along with much of the Middle East, was ruled by the Ottoman Empire.
Re: Why Jehovah Is A Massive Failure by Ertugrul: 8:22am On Mar 31, 2022
Maxinthehouse

You claim the war was a proxy war, sincerely do u think that Jehovah would have stood a chance against the Egyptian Gods if they were present during the captivity of Israel? Even without the presence of their Gods...they subjugated the Israelites for a long time before Jehovah came up with his tricks , this was heavily one-sided, same way he tipped the scales of battle for Israel in so many occasions... because he's not omni-present, whenever he was away to wherever he came from and Israel was attacked during his absence, he will blame the losses for their disobedience...and then use his presence to aid Israel in their wars... imagine if other nations had their Gods present, Jehovah would have bn crushed....u cant even compare Jehovah to Egyptian Gods, Babylonian(mesopotamia) Gods..Persian Gods, these Gods left legacies and long standing impact on their people
Re: Why Jehovah Is A Massive Failure by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:29am On Mar 31, 2022
Ertugrul:

Lol, your reasoning is very flawed because the world was not centered around the area of Israel... during the period when Jehovah led the Israelites, there were other massive civilizations already in existence....

Of course there were well civilized nations but that's not JEHOVAH'S target, pure worship will prove to be what it was purposed to achieve!

Ertugrul:

What sense does it make to single out when nation as a symbol of ur authority and use them to wage war against others...u said God promised them canaan, wasn't canana already inhabited by its own people? The Israelites waged war on so many nations during their exodus in their bid for statehood, there is nothing spiritual about this, its is pure warfare, u can even see God given them instructions on how to handle women, slaves and spoils of war, even telling them not to assimilate these foreign captives...
JEHOVAH is the most intelligent being in the whole universe! He never wanted anyone to die while planning to establish pure worship in Canaan. He used the most powerful ruler of that's time as a warning signal to all the nations around Canaan not to stand in the way or try to deprive His people from inhabiting Canaan but the demons keep hardening the hearts of their own worshipers.
Note that those people also consult their Oracles so only intelligent ones like Rahab the prostitute in Jericho could sense that the God coming with the Israelite is unstoppable.
So had it been those people reasoned that if this God could singlehandedly deliver a nation of slaves out of Egypt without a military then He is the Almighty God! smiley
Ertugrul:

Your assumption that the Israelites war on nations was a proxy war between Jehovah and demons in false because there's no report of the God's of these nations making any impact on their warfare....
Of course they did!
Because they had priests in their shrines who should have warned them that the Israelites God is the Almighty just as the magicians in Egypt warned their Pharaoh! Exodus 8:19
So don't assume that they had no impact, they knew that their worshipers will die in the process but since they had nothing to loose than their domains they prefer to see people die after all these are the descendants of Adam not their own! smiley

Ertugrul:

I have to stick to the topic of this post, The quest for Israel statehood was a failure, the Israelites couldn't consolidate the territories they conquered...the state divided and the Babylonian conquest was the end and they fell into series of occupation because of the strategic location they occupied...

JEHOVAH'S purpose has been achieved!
All He wanted is for people throughout the earth to acknowledge Him through the descendants of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob {Genesis 12:1-3} today JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES have gathered obedient people in millions across the globe and they have inculcated the principles of JEHOVAH in their hearts using the Bible (God's word) they have settled all their racial disparities, they have diverted all their resources into the production of food and information materials, they have vowed never to raise weapons against anyone again and they have said goodbye to military services! Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3

There's no nation under the heavens today where you will not find JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES, though our activities may be restricted due to the effort of demons still fighting for domains but on the larger scale only JEHOVAH has proved to keep His promises as you can see in the above quotations!

Therefore if you want to compare JEHOVAH to any other God please present their Witnesses and the good things they've achieved globally. Act 1:8

May you have PEACE! smiley
Re: Why Jehovah Is A Massive Failure by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:41am On Mar 31, 2022
Ertugrul:
Maxinthehouse
You claim the war was a proxy war, sincerely do u think that Jehovah would have stood a chance against the Egyptian Gods if they were present during the captivity of Israel? Even without the presence of their Gods...they subjugated the Israelites for a long time before Jehovah came up with his tricks , this was heavily one-sided, same way he tipped the scales of battle for Israel in so many occasions... because he's not omni-present, whenever he was away to wherever he came from and Israel was attacked during his absence, he will blame the losses for their disobedience...and then use his presence to aid Israel in their wars... imagine if other nations had their Gods present, Jehovah would have bn crushed....u cant even compare Jehovah to Egyptian Gods, Babylonian(mesopotamia) Gods..Persian Gods, these Gods left legacies and long standing impact on their people

Well JEHOVAH went down all the way to Egypt with a feeble octogenarian (Moses) and in the presence of all the Gods in Egypt JEHOVAH delivered His people without a military force!

Obviously you don't understand the purpose of the ten plagues so permit me to enlighten you.

Each of the plagues is a heavy slap on the Gods of Egypt, from the turning of Nile into blood to the killing of the first born in Egypt.
The Nile was worshiped as a God back then, Pharaoh was also worshiped as a God and Ra is the God that opens the womb of their women. So if JEHOVAH can kill all the fishes in their Nile, rendered their King useless to the point of begging Moses whom JEHOVAH has made like a God to Pharaoh {Exodus 7:1} and killed all their first born that opened the wombs of their women. Oh my friend JEHOVAH has proved to be the Almighty God! Exodus 6:2-3 smiley
Re: Why Jehovah Is A Massive Failure by Ertugrul: 9:01am On Mar 31, 2022
You are at odds with understanding this topic...as long as u don't understand the term Gods" as being intelligent Extra-terrestial species same as Jehovah, then it would be hard for you...these beings were not present on earth during Israel's exodus ..they only taught their people means to communicate with them but their absence meant there was little their people could do....
Jehovah's mission was not for u to know him...it was an empire tru Abraham, you are only a Christian today as an African because of the advent of the Europeans who subjugated our ancestors to believe their religion, the British, french , Spanish and Portuguese carried off from where the Roman empire left in the expansion of Christendom...
Jehovah has no business with Christianity, he gave his people laws to guide them tru their exodus and quest to become a state.....
You are a Christian today because of force, not because ur ancestors accepted it willingly... Christianity spread by the quantity of its violence so did Islam...
Re: Why Jehovah Is A Massive Failure by Ertugrul: 9:05am On Mar 31, 2022
MaxInDHouse:






Therefore if you want to compare JEHOVAH to any other God please present their Witnesses and the good things they've achieved globally. Act 1:8

May you have PEACE! smiley

Lol explain what u mean by this...
Re: Why Jehovah Is A Massive Failure by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:15am On Mar 31, 2022
Ertugrul:
You are at odds with understanding this topic...as long as u don't understand the term Gods" as being intelligent Extra-terrestial species same as Jehovah, then it would be hard for you...these beings were not present on earth during Israel's exodus ..they only taught their people means to communicate with them but their absence meant there was little their people could do....
Jehovah's mission was not for u to know him...it was an empire tru Abraham, you are only a Christian today as an African because of the advent of the Europeans who subjugated our ancestors to believe their religion, the British, french , Spanish and Portuguese carried off from where the Roman empire left in the expansion of Christendom...
Jehovah has no business with Christianity, he gave his people laws to guide them tru their exodus and quest to become a state.....
You are a Christian today because of force, not because ur ancestors accepted it willingly... Christianity spread by the quantity of its violence so did Islam...

Obviously you missed so many points in my first post but i'll advise you to read my first post again but this time slowly in order to assimilate! smiley

There was no Christianity until JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES came knocking on our doors!

All the religions you know before the coming of JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES are worshipers of demons misinformed Churchgoers claiming "Christians"
JEHOVAH'S plan was to unite faithful and obedient humans through the world under one umbrella.
The Israelites (Abraham's descendants) were to be the first to get the message and pass it to all other nations. But these stiff-necked people thought JEHOVAH is only interested in their glory as a nation just as you too are thinking right now. So whenever any prophet rises in their midst and taught them not to think about their glory they will kill such a prophet {Matthew 23:37-38} and that's exactly what they did to Jesus whom JEHOVAH has promised them through Moses! Deuteronomy 18:15-19

Jesus' mission was to train them on how to propagate pure worship without using force but all they're after was to conquer the nations dominating them at that time. So they killed Jesus of Nazareth and that was their end because after few Jews had accepted Christianity Jerusalem was left in the hands of nations fighting for domains that's why Jesus ordered his own followers not to think of supporting Jerusalem because God has abandoned that nation! Matthew 21:43

So instead of arguing without careful study of what Jesus taught why not go through Jesus' instructions to his disciples then come back and tell me if those killing people in the name of Jesus were truly his disciples? Matthew 26:52 smiley

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Re: Why Jehovah Is A Massive Failure by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:25am On Mar 31, 2022
Ertugrul:

Lol explain what u mean by this...

Each God has gathered their worshipers and through their activities you will know what the God gathering them had in mind! Matthew 7:16-18

JEHOVAH claimed He is the Creator so in His plans He wanted to liberate obedient mankind from Satan's domination that's why He establish pure worship which is to be taken the extremity of the earth.

What is expected of His WITNESSES? Isaiah 43:10-12

Well as the Creator He wants all His own worshipers to become like one big and happy family of peace loving worshipers globally {Isaiah 2:2-4} so that no matter where each of them come from they will speak in harmony {Zephaniah 3:9 compare to John 17:22} without the use of weapons threatening one another to obey Him! Jeremiah 31:33

So i present to the whole world:

The organization of JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES the one and only group practicing pure worship! smiley

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Re: Why Jehovah Is A Massive Failure by Ertugrul: 9:35am On Mar 31, 2022
Lol now i get you, imagine people enjoying the stability that governance and politics has brought yet u have the guts to demonize world governance...now I understand what u mean all this while by witness...so now all other religions and christian sects are demonic�...you are living today and going about ur business today is because of the government of your nation, without them you are nothing, there is no God looking out for you or coming to save you .....this world does not revolve around ur religious beliefs... humanity will keep evolving and advancing till we can understand more about our origins and these beings that visited here in the past
Re: Why Jehovah Is A Massive Failure by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:42am On Mar 31, 2022
Ertugrul:
Lol now i get you, imagine people enjoying the stability that governance and politics has brought yet u have the guts to demonize world governance...now I understand what u mean all this while by witness...so now all other religions and christian sects are demonic�...you are living today and going about ur business today is because of the government of your nation, without them you are nothing, there is no God looking out for you or coming to save you .....this world does not revolve around ur religious beliefs... humanity will keep evolving and advancing till we can understand more about our origins and these beings that visited here in the past


Well in the absence of no further questions i will rest my case with you.
JEHOVAH has proved beyond any reasonable doubt that He is the Almighty who can say and fulfil His plans no matter what anyone think, say or do! Isaiah 55:8-11

May you have PEACE! smiley

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Re: Why Jehovah Is A Massive Failure by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:20am On Mar 31, 2022
When reading Jesus' comments in the Bible it's important to note certain points of emphasis.
Most people thought it's by observing the laws JEHOVAH gave the nation of Israel that they're doing the will of God but that's not the truth otherwise Jesus wouldn't have condemned the young man who kept all these laws right from his youth! Luke 18:18-23

So what is the will of God? Matthew 7:21-23


Well to answer this question we need to know God's plan regarding the earth and it's inhabitants because right from the beginning God never gave anyone WRITTEN laws until He delivered the Israelites out of Egypt and brought them to the land of Canaan.

Before entering into Canaan Moses (the same prophet God used to pass the laws to them) told them that another prophet will rise among them who will continue with the plans Jehovah had in mind before calling their father Abraham out of the Cheldian city of Ur {Genesis 12:1-3} this prophet will teach them what they have to do to continue in God's plan {Deuteronomy 18:15-18} a stringent warning follows when Moses said "whoever failed to heed to the counsel of the coming prophet will be cut off from God's plan" Deuteronomy 18:19

So the laws wasn't God's original plan for mankind, it was brought in as a forerunner to prepare our minds for God's only begotten Son who is coming to teach us God's will! Galatians 3:23-25

God's plan is to have people throughout the earth worshiping Him in one acccord with LOVE, JOY and PEACE! Isaiah 2:2-4; Zephaniah 3:9; John 17:20-23; 1Corinthians 1:10


Satan knew all these that's why he keep making people feel cheated so that they're trying to find better rulers among themselves and in the process hatred, fighting and killing has continued in the midst of Satan's worshipers! Revelations 6:3-4

So if anyone is claiming CHRISTIAN today but failed to know this sacred secrets let him/her know today that he is far far far away from accepting the Prince of Peace {Isaiah 9:6} for your information the Mark of the beast is POLITICS so only those involved can have their businesses unhindered while others must serve under them! Revelations 13:16-18

Thank you, God bless you and may you have PEACE! smiley

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Re: Why Jehovah Is A Massive Failure by KnownUnknown: 12:39pm On Mar 31, 2022
Ertugrul:


This is amazing, so many things happened in the aftermath of Roswell... wow i see...this alien topic is a very interesting one...its puzzling and very complex to wrap one's head around...

I’m just pulling your leg.
Re: Why Jehovah Is A Massive Failure by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:47pm On Mar 31, 2022
Ertugrul:


List of some yoruba Gods...you can see their functions , they transferred knowledge to their people and this enabled their people to grow,develop and adapt to the world when they left...
These Gods at some point went back to their planet...
Ọbalúayé - orisha of the Earth and strongly associated with infectious disease and healing
Erinlẹ̀ - an elephant hunter and physician to the gods
Èṣù - Èṣù is the orisha of crossroads, duality, beginnings and balance
Ibeji - twin orisha of vitality and youth
Lógunẹ̀dẹ - a warrior and hunter
Ọbàtálá - creator of human bodies; orisha of light, spiritual purity, and moral uprightness
Odùduwà - progenitor orisha of the Yorubas
Ògún - orisha who presides over iron, fire, hunting, agriculture and war
Okó - a hunter and farmer
Osanyin - orisha of the forest, herbs and medicine
Oṣùmàrè - divine rainbow serpent associated with creation and procreation
Ọ̀ṣọ́ọ̀sì - orisha of the hunt, forest, strategy and of the knowledge
Ṣàngó - orisha of the thunders and lightnings

Hmmmmmmmmmmmm, it's wise to listen to all sides before concluding on what we hear from people.
On the contrary all these Gods were spirit beings (angels) who formerly lived with JEHOVAH in heaven but after Satan has been excommunicated he looked for a way to get some of his colleagues to join him in rebellion against JEHOVAH. It wasn't easy telling them to abandon JEHOVAH'S work which always brings them joy so Satan studied them carefully and noticed that there is one thing humans are enjoying on planet earth that his brothers (angels) can't enjoy.
Remember the Bible explained that it was only the male human (Adam) that God first created to populate the earth so it was possible for only Adam to reproduce without the need of a female but JEHOVAH noticed that it wasn't good enough for Adam to be alone that's why God made a partner for him (Eve) Genesis 2:18-25

So when God said "let us make man in our own image" {Genesis 1:26} it's clear that the attributes of male is what all the angels in heaven have.
Satan has gotten the key so he called the attention of his angelic brothers to observe the way humans are enjoying sex on earth with their females, this is what made many of the angels in heaven abandoned their assigned duties and they actually came down to start mating with female humans! Genesis 6:1-5
This aliens had no human bodies yet they want to enjoy sex with female humans, since they knew how humans were created they formed bodies for themselves and it was the most irresistible physiques they designed for themselves so no female human could resist them.
Ordinarily before you can marry any human back then you must introduce your parents to the girl but these guys were so beautiful, rich and intelligent that the ladies were throwing themselves at them without asking for there origin and if you must know that was how fornication (premarital sex) was introduced to the human society.
To cut the long story short God got annoyed, sent a heavy rain and destroyed all those living on the surface of the earth preserving only eight souls, so all the children born to these rebellious angels, their wives and all others died in the deluge.

But what happened to those angels?
Remember they're not humans so they dropped their fleshy bodies and returned to heaven as spirit creatures after all there's no business for them here again.
God never welcomed them back into the midst of His loyal children that's why they later returned to the earth going and coming back as spirit beings (Gods) 1Peter 3:19-20; 2Peter 2:4-5; Jude 6

So my friend they were all fallen angels and sure they were highly intelligent so they have lots and lots of things to teach their worshipers but JEHOVAH kept the joker to beat them intelligently in the last days so that honest hearted and sincere individuals may know the truth about all these Gods.
How JEHOVAH promised to unite all His own worshipers and make LOVE, JOY and PEACE reign in our midst while the worshipers of demons will never have such no matter how much they tried.
WHY?
Because you're all worshiping rebellious angels that are only interested in ruling over you! smiley

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