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Re: Can Great Britain Invade And Successfully Conquer Nigeria? by descarado: 10:01am On Apr 03, 2022
Like half of gas UK uses is from UK.
Norway provides more than half of the the remaining 50%, Qatar provide half or more of the remaining one.
Russia provide from 4 to 8 percent.

Russian oil ban has no impact on British energy at all.
Re: Can Great Britain Invade And Successfully Conquer Nigeria? by babyfaceafrica: 10:05am On Apr 03, 2022
Czario:


The British and Americans are coming for it since we're too dull
they are welcome
Re: Can Great Britain Invade And Successfully Conquer Nigeria? by Sladem05: 9:27am On Apr 25
Patented:


They can invade but I don't think they can conquer Nigeria. If their objective is to secure a few offshore oil wells they could succeed being that they have a technological edge on us with their airforce and navy. However to conquer mainland nigeria is too much for them. They simply do not have a military large enough to do it. The country will be too vast for them and population to much

Unless ICBMs are in play
Re: Can Great Britain Invade And Successfully Conquer Nigeria? by Sladem05: 9:28am On Apr 25
Mangekyo:

Are you underestimating the nigerian military?
The nigerian military is one of the most competent forces in Africa and the world at large. Just because we're having problem dealing with terrorists who are mostly applying guerilla tactics doesn't mean we wouldn't be able to hold out another country in a Conventional warfare. Our troops are trained to tackle enemies in conventional warfares, not terrorists applying guerilla. Any country would find trouble containing enemies using guerilla tactics. Even USA, Russia, China etc. All of them

😂😂 Nigerian military that can’t even fight the bandits or Boko Haram? 😂😂
Re: Can Great Britain Invade And Successfully Conquer Nigeria? by Patented: 11:33am On Apr 25
Sladem05:


Unless ICBMs are in play
That will help them destroy infrastructure and military installations, controlling the country would be a different ball game
Re: Can Great Britain Invade And Successfully Conquer Nigeria? by Sladem05: 12:15pm On Apr 25
Patented:

That will help them destroy infrastructure and military installations, controlling the country would be a different ball game

Do you even know as to the amount of bloodshed that will be upon Nigeria?

Hirsoshima and Nagasaki bombs killed over 130,000 people. That’s a bomb from 80 years ago. The explosive power of a thermonuclear weapon can be 100s if not thousands of times more powerful than an atomic bomb. Nukes can reach temps that are as hot as the inside of a sun. With 10 Nukes, UK would have destroyed all of Nigeria’s population centres like Lagos,Kano, Ibadan, Benin and so on.
Missile strikes would also do a lot of damage to Nigeria. Nigeria doesn’t have the capability to stop missiles travelling at hypersonic speeds.
Re: Can Great Britain Invade And Successfully Conquer Nigeria? by tctrills: 12:27pm On Apr 25
FoolishBoy419:
If Nigerians are supportive of the country and are willing to give up their lives for it, even USA cannot achieve it because Nigeria is too large. I know some amateurs might look at USA's military capabilities and think we don't stand a chance but unless they use nuclear weapons and bomb every corner in Nigeria, they can't achieve it. The amount of insurgency alone would be too much.

But in our present state, It would not be that hard if they really put their minds to it. In fact, a sizeable portion of the country (especially people like Northernblood3) would happily join them against Nigeria.
Very funny. You stand zero chance. It will be all over in a month. And you will start running to the UN and claiming genocide.
Again how many Nigerians are going to risk their life's are insurgents. The average Nigerian is much smarter than the Taliban.
Re: Can Great Britain Invade And Successfully Conquer Nigeria? by mysticwarrior(m): 12:36pm On Apr 25
leofab:
A country that can’t produce their own military armament locally can’t be suppressed and occupied.. there will be collateral damages but then saboteurs will make the job easy..
Afghanistan were not producing their own weapons but yet the held the soviets to a standstill and eventually forcing them to retreat.

The USA invaded Afghanistan and again the American were faced by a bitter Afghan resistance which lasted for 20 years untill the US fled from that country without their weapons.

Ethiopia was were not manufacturing their own weapons but yet they defeated the Italians in the battle of Adwa in 1896. Vietnam wasn't fabricating weapons but the north Vietnamese forces defeated the US forces during the Vietnam war.

In military history it wouldn't be fare to ascertain the outcome of warfare by giving the advantage to oneside after judging from the self production of weaponry by one party over the other.
Re: Can Great Britain Invade And Successfully Conquer Nigeria? by FoolishBoy419: 12:42pm On Apr 25
tctrills:

Very funny. You stand zero chance. It will be all over in a month. And you will start running to the UN and claiming genocide.
Again how many Nigerians are going to risk their life's are insurgents. The average Nigerian is much smarter than the Taliban.

Novices think war is all about dropping bombs and missiles. Tell me in concise terms why USA failed to win the Vietnam war.
Re: Can Great Britain Invade And Successfully Conquer Nigeria? by tctrills: 1:24pm On Apr 25
FoolishBoy419:


Novices think war is all about dropping bombs and missiles. Tell me in concise terms why USA failed to win the Vietnam war.
The US did not fail to win because of the population of the Vietcong.
The major reason why the US failed to win is because of opinion back home and poor military strategy. If the UK is coming for your oil, it would be the easiest war. They only need to control your oil instillations and it's over. Less than a month.
Re: Can Great Britain Invade And Successfully Conquer Nigeria? by Sladem05: 1:27pm On Apr 25
FoolishBoy419:


Novices think war is all about dropping bombs and missiles. Tell me in concise terms why USA failed to win the Vietnam war.

It is true that Wars aren’t won based on military strength but Politics. Warfare is political game but Nigeria is highly divided. It’s not united. Nigerian soldiers can hardly face Boko Haram or the bandits not to talk of advanced militaries. This is also a hypothetical situation. No nation would ever use a nuclear weapon. That would be political suicide. But if they did the nation that was hit by the nuclear weapons would be in chaos. If Britain launched just 10 nuclear weapons against Nigeria. Nigeria’s situation would make Gaza look like a paradise. Nigeria is a country with population centres around the country. 10 nukes would eliminate much of the infrastructure and people in the country. Loss of life would be colossal. Millions will die. Hunger and Poverty increases dramatically.
Re: Can Great Britain Invade And Successfully Conquer Nigeria? by Sladem05: 2:35pm On Apr 25
tctrills:

The US did not fail to win because of the population of the Vietcong.
The major reason why the US failed to win is because of opinion back home and poor military strategy. If the UK is coming for your oil, it would be the easiest war. They only need to control your oil instillations and it's over. Less than a month.

Militarily the US succeeded, they lost politically. Around 60,000 Americans died vs millions of viets.

'You know, you never defeated us on the battlefield,' Col. Summers said. 'That may be so,' Col. Tu replied, 'but it's also irrelevant ...
Re: Can Great Britain Invade And Successfully Conquer Nigeria? by Sladem05: 2:36pm On Apr 25
tctrills:

The US did not fail to win because of the population of the Vietcong.
The major reason why the US failed to win is because of opinion back home and poor military strategy. If the UK is coming for your oil, it would be the easiest war. They only need to control your oil instillations and it's over. Less than a month.

With 10 Nuclear Weapons, Britain has retaken Nigeria.
Re: Can Great Britain Invade And Successfully Conquer Nigeria? by tctrills: 3:03pm On Apr 25
Sladem05:


Militarily the US succeeded, they lost politically. Around 60,000 Americans died vs millions of viets.

'You know, you never defeated us on the battlefield,' Col. Summers said. 'That may be so,' Col. Tu replied, 'but it's also irrelevant ...


We both agree with the political part but then, the US never defeated North Vietnam even military. That war was a complete disaster by American standards
Re: Can Great Britain Invade And Successfully Conquer Nigeria? by Sladem05: 3:52pm On Apr 25
tctrills:

We both agree with the political part but then, the US never defeated North Vietnam even military. That war was a complete disaster by American standards

They did in the military sense defeat the Viets. How can you say otherwise? Only 60,000 Americans died in that war compared to millions of viets that died. I posted a quote about US and Viet officials even agreeing with that assertion. Vietnamese and American historians agree that the US won the battles but not the war. War is a political game. Ever since WW2, The US has lost all the wars because of its incompetent politicians not its military. You can’t fight the Americans evenly on the battlefield. They’re way too strong and their military technology is far more sophisticated. You can only win via guerrila warfare. Whether it was in the Middle East, Korea and so on. The US failed in those countries due to political reasons. The US never truly lost in Vietnam. The American people wanted them out of the country. They were no longer in support of the war. So your comment is false as the US did defeat North Vietnam on the battlefield when one of the Viet Generals agreed with that. The US won the vast majority of the battles in that war.

Now with UK vs Nigeria, The UK is going to win if ICBM is involved. Brits will take Nigeria easily if they can use Nuclear Weapons. But they will struggle immensely without it and that’s less to do with their capability but because Nigeria is a very populous nation.Any first world country can take down any of the African countries. What have NATO been doing in Africa for the past 30-40 years?
Re: Can Great Britain Invade And Successfully Conquer Nigeria? by tctrills: 4:17pm On Apr 25
Sladem05:


They did in the military sense defeat the Viets. How can you say otherwise? Only 60,000 Americans died in that war compared to millions of viets that died. I posted a quote about US and Viet officials even agreeing with that assertion. Vietnamese and American historians agree that the US won the battles but not the war. War is a political game. Ever since WW2, The US has lost all the wars because of its incompetent politicians not its military. You can’t fight the Americans evenly on the battlefield. They’re way too strong and their military technology is far more sophisticated. You can only win via guerrila warfare. Whether it was in the Middle East, Korea and so on. The US failed in those countries due to political reasons. The US never truly lost in Vietnam. The American people wanted them out of the country. They were no longer in support of the war. So your comment is false as the US did defeat North Vietnam on the battlefield when one of the Viet Generals agreed with that. The US won the vast majority of the battles in that war.

Now with UK vs Nigeria, The UK is going to win if ICBM is involved. Brits will take Nigeria easily if they can use Nuclear Weapons. But they will struggle immensely without it and that’s less to do with their capability but because Nigeria is a very populous nation.Any first world country can take down any of the African countries. What have NATO been doing in Africa for the past 30-40 years?
Let's not beat a dying horse too much but here are some facts.
60,000 American soldiers is many times more than the dead in Iraq and Afghanistan combined.
Secondly, wars are not won by the number of dead on each side. The Soviet union lost more men than Germany in WW2.
Again the UK does not need nuclear weapons to thrash Nigeria. Our population is of zero advantage in modern warfare. The UK has more than enough bullets for 200 million people.
Lastly, they don't need to take out millions of Nigerians. Only very few Nigeria's would be committed to engaging with the Brits. The most of us will surrender before the first bullet.

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Re: Can Great Britain Invade And Successfully Conquer Nigeria? by Patented: 5:57pm On Apr 25
Sladem05:


Do you even know as to the amount of bloodshed that will be upon Nigeria?

Hirsoshima and Nagasaki bombs killed over 130,000 people. That’s a bomb from 80 years ago. The explosive power of a thermonuclear weapon can be 100s if not thousands of times more powerful than an atomic bomb. Nukes can reach temps that are as hot as the inside of a sun. With 10 Nukes, UK would have destroyed all of Nigeria’s population centres like Lagos,Kano, Ibadan, Benin and so on.
Missile strikes would also do a lot of damage to Nigeria. Nigeria doesn’t have the capability to stop missiles travelling at hypersonic speeds.

Afghanistan was invaded but never conquered, this should give u some context regarding what I mean. If nuclear weapons are used the land itself will not be habitable for them. Therefore they succeed but not conquer. Conquer to me is to occupy and physically control and dominate conclusively

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Re: Can Great Britain Invade And Successfully Conquer Nigeria? by FoolishBoy419: 6:11pm On Apr 25
Sladem05:


It is true that Wars aren’t won based on military strength but Politics. Warfare is political game but Nigeria is highly divided. It’s not united. Nigerian soldiers can hardly face Boko Haram or the bandits not to talk of advanced militaries. This is also a hypothetical situation. No nation would ever use a nuclear weapon. That would be political suicide. But if they did the nation that was hit by the nuclear weapons would be in chaos. If Britain launched just 10 nuclear weapons against Nigeria. Nigeria’s situation would make Gaza look like a paradise. Nigeria is a country with population centres around the country. 10 nukes would eliminate much of the infrastructure and people in the country. Loss of life would be colossal. Millions will die. Hunger and Poverty increases dramatically.


I was talking about conventional warfare when I made that post. Nigeria cannot stand any nuclear power
Re: Can Great Britain Invade And Successfully Conquer Nigeria? by FoolishBoy419: 6:14pm On Apr 25
tctrills:

The US did not fail to win because of the population of the Vietcong.
The major reason why the US failed to win is because of opinion back home and poor military strategy. If the UK is coming for your oil, it would be the easiest war. They only need to control your oil instillations and it's over. Less than a month.

Public opinion did not stop them from using chemical weapons and killing over 1.5 million people over the course of 10+ years and if you blame it on military strategy, I will remind you that most wars are lost because of poor military strategy so it cannot be an excuse
Re: Can Great Britain Invade And Successfully Conquer Nigeria? by tctrills: 6:31pm On Apr 25
FoolishBoy419:


Public opinion did not stop them from using chemical weapons and killing over 1.5 million people over the course of 10+ years and if you blame it on military strategy, I will remind you that most wars are lost because of poor military strategy so it cannot be an excuse
Most wars are not lost because of military strategy. Other factors count. Such as weapons, topography and weather. And as for you first point, it's not really clear. 1.5 million people were not killed with chemical weapons.
And yes, the public outrage from the death and carnage led to the end of that war.
Re: Can Great Britain Invade And Successfully Conquer Nigeria? by FoolishBoy419: 6:41pm On Apr 25
tctrills:

Most wars are not lost because of military strategy. Other factors count. Such as weapons, topography and weather. And as for you first point, it's not really clear. 1.5 million people were not killed with chemical weapons.
And yes, the public outrage from the death and carnage led to the end of that war.

Weapons, typography, and weather disadvantages can all be overcome with the proper strategy. I think there is a saying that that states a group of lions led by a goat would lose to a group of goats led by a lion. It may be bullsh!t, but it has a reasonable meaning. There are several examples of underdogs beating larger armies due to sheer brilliance.

Public opinion was a minor factor and you know it. America never listens to Americans when they start their military adventures and even today, they are not listening to Americans that do not want to see their billions being used to fund other countries' wars. Financial costs, casualties, and lack of meaningful progress is what made them give up. It's the same thing that happened to them in Afghanistan.
Re: Can Great Britain Invade And Successfully Conquer Nigeria? by tctrills: 7:29pm On Apr 25
FoolishBoy419:


Weapons, typography, and weather disadvantages can all be overcome with the proper strategy. I think there is a saying that that states a group of lions led by a goat would lose to a group of goats led by a lion. It may be bullsh!t, but it has a reasonable meaning. There are several examples of underdogs beating larger armies due to sheer brilliance.

Public opinion was a minor factor and you know it. America never listens to Americans when they start their military adventures and even today, they are not listening to Americans that do not want to see their billions being used to fund other countries' wars. Financial costs, casualties, and lack of meaningful progress is what made them give up. It's the same thing that happened to them in Afghanistan.

I think we are beginning to beat around and repeat our talking points. Let's just say we don't agree.
Re: Can Great Britain Invade And Successfully Conquer Nigeria? by Sladem05: 10:38pm On Apr 25
FoolishBoy419:



I was talking about conventional warfare when I made that post. Nigeria cannot stand any nuclear power

It’s good you know that.
Re: Can Great Britain Invade And Successfully Conquer Nigeria? by Sladem05: 10:43pm On Apr 25
FoolishBoy419:


Weapons, typography, and weather disadvantages can all be overcome with the proper strategy. I think there is a saying that that states a group of lions led by a goat would lose to a group of goats led by a lion. It may be bullsh!t, but it has a reasonable meaning. There are several examples of underdogs beating larger armies due to sheer brilliance.

Public opinion was a minor factor and you know it. America never listens to Americans when they start their military adventures and even today, they are not listening to Americans that do not want to see their billions being used to fund other countries' wars. Financial costs, casualties, and lack of meaningful progress is what made them give up. It's the same thing that happened to them in Afghanistan.

USA lost their wars because of politics not their military. The other person doesn’t understand how wars are won.
Re: Can Great Britain Invade And Successfully Conquer Nigeria? by Sladem05: 10:44pm On Apr 25
Patented:


Afghanistan was invaded but never conquered, this should give u some context regarding what I mean. If nuclear weapons are used the land itself will not be habitable for them. Therefore they succeed but not conquer. Conquer to me is to occupy and physically control and dominate conclusively

It was never conquered because Afghans preferred Taliban over NATO. That’s why Taliban won. Taliban couldn’t fight NATO.
Re: Can Great Britain Invade And Successfully Conquer Nigeria? by Sladem05: 10:54pm On Apr 25
tctrills:

Let's not beat a dying horse too much but here are some facts.
60,000 American soldiers is many times more than the dead in Iraq and Afghanistan combined.
Secondly, wars are not won by the number of dead on each side. The Soviet union lost more men than Germany in WW2.
Again the UK does not need nuclear weapons to thrash Nigeria. Our population is of zero advantage in modern warfare. The UK has more than enough bullets for 200 million people.
Lastly, they don't need to take out millions of Nigerians. Only very few Nigeria's would be committed to engaging with the Brits. The most of us will surrender before the first bullet.


But that’s still nothing compared to Viet casualties. Viet and US generals concluded that the U.S. won on the battlefield. I also never said that wars are won by casualties I was talking about battlefield success. On the Battlefield, The Americans destroyed the viets as they didn’t suffer anywhere near the same kind of casualties and they beat them in most battles.

I agree with what you’re saying that wars are political not military. The Soviets may have lost more men but with the allied powers. They were able to bring the Axis powers down and force them to surrender.

Nigeria’s large population would make it a bit harder for the British to defeat as it’s a large population to control. There’s only so many people the Brits could deploy into the country.
Nukes makes this a walk in the park for the Brits.

I agree with most Nigerians surrendering. There is no sense of national unity in that country. Most Nigerians are not prepared to die for their country.
Re: Can Great Britain Invade And Successfully Conquer Nigeria? by Patented: 5:05am On Apr 26
Sladem05:


It was never conquered because Afghans preferred Taliban over NATO. That’s why Taliban won. Taliban couldn’t fight NATO.

I do not believe this is the case. Afghanistan is called the graveyard of empires it's frustrates all invading armies. Multiple factors are responsible for this.
Re: Can Great Britain Invade And Successfully Conquer Nigeria? by Reflect7: 6:09am On Apr 26
greatness77:
illiterate! SS and SE will never fight to defend nigeria, east is already hot for nigeria, i wont give u d attention u want, f**k nigeria

YOU ARE THE ILLITERATE.

Which one is ''SS'' and ''SE''?

Is there any army called SE OR SS?

Or you think a professionally trained fighting force like the Nigerian military, ranked 4th out of 54 countries n Africa, will, in the face of external attack, split along ethnic lines, with some ethnicities deciding to fight for the British?

A whole Nigerian army?

Are you okay at all?

I mean, the type of people that come on this nairaland are just so primitive in the way they reason.

See him shouting SS and SE as if there is any army called SS!
Re: Can Great Britain Invade And Successfully Conquer Nigeria? by Sladem05: 8:23am On Apr 26
Patented:


I do not believe this is the case. Afghanistan is called the graveyard of empires it's frustrates all invading armies. Multiple factors are responsible for this.

A big factor is that Afghans are very difficult to subjugate. That’s why they beat the US, UK, Soviet Union and so on. As someone that watched body can footage of NATO troops in Afghanistan. NATO troops spent much of their time searching for Taliban troops whom were hiding in caves, deploying IEDs into hidden places and so on. Taliban used guerilla tactics. They knew that they couldn’t take the US/NATO head on. That’s suicide. There were many factors as to why the Taliban won but Guerilla Warfare was a major factor.

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Re: Can Great Britain Invade And Successfully Conquer Nigeria? by Patented: 11:00am On Apr 26
Sladem05:


A bit factor is that Afghans are very difficult to subjugate. That’s why they beat the US, UK, Soviet Union and so on. As someone that watched body can footage of NATO troops in Afghanistan. NATO troops spent much of their time searching for Taliban troops whom were hiding in caves, deploying IEDs into hidden places and so on. Taliban used guerilla tactics. They knew that they couldn’t take the US/NATO head on. That’s suicide. There were many factors as to why the Taliban won but Guerilla Warfare was a major factor.
i totally agree, they are experts at guerrilla warfare, the eat and sleep to it. The use the terrain to their advantage, they know their land adn they are wiling to die
Re: Can Great Britain Invade And Successfully Conquer Nigeria? by Sladem05: 2:06pm On Apr 26
Patented:

i totally agree, they are experts at guerrilla warfare, the eat and sleep to it. The use the terrain to their advantage, they know their land adn they are wiling to die

The problem with all this talk is that we are assuming that Nigerians have the same spirit as Afghans, Viets and whatnot. Nigeria is a make believe country. It’s not a real country. Who is going to die for Nigeria. If the country was invaded. Nigerians do not hold their green passports in pride. Most will just run away or even join the invading force. Soldiers in Nigeria don’t even have the spirit to fight the Bandits and terrorists of the country.
Re: Can Great Britain Invade And Successfully Conquer Nigeria? by Reflect7: 2:22pm On Apr 26
Sladem05:


The problem with all this talk is that we are assuming that Nigerians have the same spirit as Afghans, Viets and whatnot. Nigeria is a make believe country. It’s not a real country. Who is going to die for Nigeria. If the country was invaded. Nigerians do not hold their green passports in pride. Most will just run away or even join the invading force. Soldiers in Nigeria don’t even have the spirit to fight the Bandits and terrorists of the country.

Oh please SHUT UP.

IPOB traitor/Emergency Nigerian.

Just because YOU feel that way about Nigeria doesn’t mean that members of the Nigerian armed forces will not fight to defend the nation if called upon.

The military has been fighting in defence of the country and losing men since before you were born, so SHUT UP.

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